Check mate? lmao not even. If you cats thats on the outside lookin in only knew the real deal about gettin signed you'd slap yourselves. Oh and yeah me and my label associates have no clue as to what you talkin bout cuz we have a very successful bay artist (e 40) on our team (who is approaching 800k sold)and a soon to be huge group in the federation. Its whateva tho. Yall (the siccness) can continue to discuss shit you have no clue about all day. Im done. 100
how bout i tell you all the truth! sorry..... failure is immenant
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so, how much are those plane tickets fromt he bay??? any gasprices in the budget or do major label artists get free gas and airfare? big budget, low budget, no budget..... it still costs to play the game!
and mr warner bros. you have argueably the biggest bay rapper ever next to too short and tupac on your team, and argueably the best producer on the west coast next to dr. dre on the west coast and his group to work with. id say you are playing with a stacked deck. go grab a indie hustler and make a star and then you will have proven what ever point you were trying to make.
this topic aint for you. 40 and the federation aint having indie bay rap problems. so unless you want to sprinkle some game on the indie cats out tyriong to get it, save your comments for the "BOARD ROOM".
in closing, i dont rememebr mentioning a record deal in this thread anywhere. so maybe you should run a clinic and teach us how to go about it! and, or, tell why its overrated and we should just stay grindin.....
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and mr warner bros. you have argueably the biggest bay rapper ever next to too short and tupac on your team, and argueably the best producer on the west coast next to dr. dre on the west coast and his group to work with. id say you are playing with a stacked deck. go grab a indie hustler and make a star and then you will have proven what ever point you were trying to make.
this topic aint for you. 40 and the federation aint having indie bay rap problems. so unless you want to sprinkle some game on the indie cats out tyriong to get it, save your comments for the "BOARD ROOM".
in closing, i dont rememebr mentioning a record deal in this thread anywhere. so maybe you should run a clinic and teach us how to go about it! and, or, tell why its overrated and we should just stay grindin.....
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so the discussion here is on price and expenses and geographics?
time has change,u cant approach this business the same as in the 90s....its going to take more money into expenses for promotions and marketing and all things in between i.e gas/hotel etc. etc.
how is a indie gonna get the money? umm work?
dont think 1min that once ur signed to a "major" label that you wont have to work,if anybody is thinking this,yal should re think yal career. invest means bring in money from your pockets/savings,, investers....
what is the true purpose of this thread and whats the outcome? is it just gon be people arguin back and forth sayin whos wrong or right?
time has change,u cant approach this business the same as in the 90s....its going to take more money into expenses for promotions and marketing and all things in between i.e gas/hotel etc. etc.
how is a indie gonna get the money? umm work?
dont think 1min that once ur signed to a "major" label that you wont have to work,if anybody is thinking this,yal should re think yal career. invest means bring in money from your pockets/savings,, investers....
what is the true purpose of this thread and whats the outcome? is it just gon be people arguin back and forth sayin whos wrong or right?
I honestly think sometimes bay area rappers come off as too cocky and its cool to rep your area and everything but bay dudes be acting like oh we started this and that and everyone wants to be like me and then dudes in the south or east are like well fuck yall then thinkin u all that we ain't fuckin wit ya..... i also think that bay area rappers need to network more with east, midwest, LA, southern rappers... I know this is happening to an extent but the more the merrier as far as units are gonna be concerned.. but if your doing a song with say a Cormega or Papoose from the east you gotta come with that lyrical shit cuz if you just on that scraper paper hyphy wifey shit they gonna laugh and you gonna get outshined... also bay rappers need to cross network more with people... just cuz you ain't in that market don't mean you can't get connects and send them promo's packages in return for theres and you promote them in ur spot they'll do the same for you... sometimes it takes more than a rapper with his own label it takes a business man that's dedicated and dope rapper that is dedicated to making music.... doing both at the same time can be very difficult....another thing is people need to be more creative and not scared to be an individual.. i know the bay scene is diverse from backpack to mob to hyphy.. i just think some bay rappers need to make more songs from the heart on some real shit.. maybe even some more positive shit... i mean real songs like back in the day like e40 things'll never change... 4tay i'll be around.. and many many more... i mean 40 usually throws a deep song on every album but im talking about the young dudes.... Mistah Fab i think is at his best when he writing deep shit like If Papa Was Home that shit probably my fav fab song of all time...... i dont know i don't think it's just the location I mean yeah it was an effect but it's not an insurmountable obstacle if you really got heat and production and got a good team willing to spread your shit skies the limit... and that's from Northern Cali to Rhode Island to Minnesota to fuckin North Dakota for all I care... Just speak from the heart and keep it real.... but good management and production gonna work wonders too......... I don't know if any of yall are crazy enough to read all that but if you did hope you felt some of it...........
"CEO's" that don't really understand business. "Hustlers" that don't really know how to hustle. "Rappers" and ""producers"" (yes, double-quoted) who couldn't make a hit if their life depended on it. People who don't know how to communicate and don't know what the fuck they're doing...
It's so much easier to just blame radio, the industry itself, and as ridiculous as it is, even the fans then it is to admit you don't get it and/or don't know what you're doing. And there is no conspiracy to keep the bay or any other region down.
We could go REAL deep on this subject but I honestly don't believe many people are ready for that. I'll leave you with this gem... It's more about people then it is anything else. Better beats, better songs, a more commercially appealing product, that's the easy part... There's a reason why the minority are the ones laughing all the way to the bank and the majority are left scratching their heads wondering how to do it. If you want to win you better start seeing the bigger picture.
It's so much easier to just blame radio, the industry itself, and as ridiculous as it is, even the fans then it is to admit you don't get it and/or don't know what you're doing. And there is no conspiracy to keep the bay or any other region down.
We could go REAL deep on this subject but I honestly don't believe many people are ready for that. I'll leave you with this gem... It's more about people then it is anything else. Better beats, better songs, a more commercially appealing product, that's the easy part... There's a reason why the minority are the ones laughing all the way to the bank and the majority are left scratching their heads wondering how to do it. If you want to win you better start seeing the bigger picture.
music is interesting to me,it seems like sum stuff are sumtimes just ment to remain underground and others more mainstream,life has to have sum sort of balance to it,its not just with the regard of rap/hip hop...look at the diff types of rock music and metal music; they have diff branches of all of that like "death metal" and "black metal" i believe death metal is only popular in europe if im not mistaken,alot of those artist/bands sell lots of units but u will never ever here them on the radio or see them on tv.they are completly undeground,and all indie
i study music alot,its a certain formula to all of this and sumtimes i think its a reason for this
i study music alot,its a certain formula to all of this and sumtimes i think its a reason for this
its all good.im no guru at this just tryin to help those who are willing to learn....u wouldnt believe how hard it is trying to break this product out here..
i do alot better selling this book to pop/rock bands here in the bay more so then rappers and producers from the bay ....alot of managers and execs take likely of it,but still its hard ya kno?
i didnt know anything bout contracts and the difference between quasi sales and leasing my beats or exclusive rights til i picked this book up,im still learning just like everybody else,i found new knowledge and wanted to help spread the word and help guide others on what i found that seems to work for me
i do alot better selling this book to pop/rock bands here in the bay more so then rappers and producers from the bay ....alot of managers and execs take likely of it,but still its hard ya kno?
i didnt know anything bout contracts and the difference between quasi sales and leasing my beats or exclusive rights til i picked this book up,im still learning just like everybody else,i found new knowledge and wanted to help spread the word and help guide others on what i found that seems to work for me
No bay area artist has ever or will ever put out an album as good as doggy style or Chronic 2001. Those albums were put together perfectly. Even though Dre's ghost written lyrics were simplistic the way it flowed with the album was flawless. So yes they can rap. Snoop when he wants will shit on most bay area mc's. Period.