Why do you believe in god?

ToNgAn_SaV · Oct 9, 2002

question's to anyone... some simple question's in need of SIMPLE answers ----> i'm not lookin' for a whole essay on each question.

do athiest believe in marraige? if so how would they go about it w/o church? beside's Reno type marraige.

do athiest believe it's okay for gay people to be gay?

do athiest believe in moral's? such as sex before marraige is bad... etc...

Blight · Oct 9, 2002

1. Ill get married by whoever i choose to make it legal. You can do it without the religious part. Shit ill let a minister just skip to "Do you?"

2. I dont care if people are gay. I dont believe in letting them raise kids. Not for any religious reason, but because i feel that it would be sick, and they will ruin a kids life.

3. I have morals and standards as far as what is obviously true to sane individuals. EX: No murder, nor rape, nor injustice. I have sex because i want to, and i need to test out the wife first. Its my opinion on life and besides i feel were all just one force along with plants and shit. Theyre having bees fuck for them without their concent, lol. j/p

Dosia · Oct 10, 2002

@basic........why the fuck would you start talking shit like a little kid...so what, when i wrote my shit i was fucked up, just as i am now......did i disrespect you....i have been in this discussion the whole time so open your fucking eyes........dont start talking shit just because i dont agree with you, stick to the subject......

and what the fuck are you talking about tearing me apart......lol..you dont know shit about me homie, so dont start thinking your mister wise one....im not a little kid

Dosia · Oct 10, 2002

what does church really have to do with marraige, there are plenty of way to get married without church, if you want to be with someone church has nothing to do with it.

i have no problem with it. are you worried that if a guy tried to fuck you, you might let him, if not them why give a damn about it. it does not effect me. does it effect you, and how?

sex before marraige is not bad at all, why would it be?

Whats your definition on MORAL?
and why do you believe in it?

i dont harm others because i dont want to be harmed....plain and simple.

Dosia · Oct 10, 2002

come home fucked up to this

Grow the fuck up.

and your saying shit about grammer.....lmao

How do you know this, have you asked them?

lol....are you being serious with this, the brain does know survival skills without being taught.....the brain knows how to keep the body alive..this have nothing to do with the topic

BaSICCally · Oct 10, 2002

Once again I will state, Religion and God are two diffrent things. I am arguing the rationalization of God, not religion. Yes I am Catholic, but I still hold beliefs in the Worlds Religions.

It is obvious to me that I am dealing with people that have not dealt with life. They haven't experienced the evil side of life yet. Which they can't be blamed for. Whatever. "You are only what you come up aggainst"-Scarface(the rapper) I will leave that at that. You will see that one day your life will take a drastic turn. There will be a point where you will HAVE to deal with life, rather then AVOID life. When you can't trust your friends or anyone around you. Your parents wont be there to bail you out. Mabey not today mabey not tomorow. You will see. I pray none of you to see what I have seen. Listen to 2Pac. What did he see that you didn't? Why does 2Pac refer to God so much?

"Five shots, still breathing, there is God if you need a reason"- Tupac

Was 2Pac irrational?

With that said. No, I am not a sheep. I rely on nobody but myself well and God. I do what I want where I want when I want. No preacher or preist tells me what to do. My parents don't either. Do yours? who's the sheep? I go to church and come out the same person. Just with more understanding. Being mature, facing reality, living on your own, paying 100% bills on time, dealing with real life situations, dealing with death, suicide and being flat broke, not knowing where your next meal is comming from. The harsh realities of life brought me to God. "ever since my birth i've been cursed' 2-Pac

20 Sicx-I can't believe you dissrespected Martin Luther King Jr. , Malcom X and Ghandi. Mabey if you read about their lives you would understand what they lived for also died for. Would you live the life you have now if it was not for them? Ask yourself that. What they all share in common is, they went aggainst all odds. They faced death but they still continued to fight for what they felt was right. Similar to the energy you and I have over this disscussion. We both live our lives then get on our computers. Their whole lives revolved around a greater cause. They faced death and still fought on.

ONCE AGAIN. I will state. I was not TAUGHT or do NOT want to believe in God. I HAVE to believe in God. That is where I was going with the slaves. They HAD to believe in God. They had nobody else to trust. I would of loved to live without God earlier on in my life. I could do whatever the hell I wanted. BASICally I could do what I wanted whenever and with whoever. But is that a reality? can I do whatever you want? can you?

Which then brings me to another point about the wiring of the brain. We have limitations. Do we not? I remember hersey stating that the brain is only using some of its capability. What will we be able to do when we can use the rest?

I am Basic. My life is basic. Simplicity is soulitude.

And NO I didn't think of the brain wiring my self. I hope you don't read any more books by Einstien. Cause I KNOW you will come up dissapointed. I got my information from a Readers Digest. It was also on the cover of Time Magazine not to long ago.

So touching on some of the topics, I have a homework assignment for the Atheists. Read the book 'The World As I See It' By Albert Einstein. I will not reply to any posts untill anyone of you reads that book. The book is available on Amazon.com and it's only 8 bucks. But a grave warning. You will be very disapointed. So read the book or not, I could care less. It's a 100 pages. I know each and one of you can read a hundred pages. Grab the book and a dictionary, please read it cover to cover. He will touch base on a lot of topics we have discussed but obviously can bring to light topics I can hardly touch.

It's obvious some of the greatest minds of humanity won't sway you. Mabey the greatest name in the science world will.....

Please do not argue aggainst what I just posted. Instead spend your energy to get that book. If you do not read the book then that shows me that you do not want to challange your beliefs. Which shows little maturity. Please don't give me the song and dance, that your to busy. I know I am lot busy then most people on this board. Which reminds me I am spending way to much time here. So I will come back in two weeks. If the book isn't read by then, then I know that my argument is more valid then yours. Do not hold strong opinions on things you don't fully understand. Therefore learn and try to understand them.

two weeks......

2-0-Sixx · Oct 10, 2002

Quick reply before I go to school....

First, I didnt disrespect Malcom, Martin or Ghandi...I simply said that I can care less what they believed in....Meaning the belief in god.

Next, the greatest name in science is NOT Einstein. He is extrememly overrated and to be honest, I dont see whats so great about his work. I believe I know what book you speak of, I may have read parts of it in the past, maybe not. cant remember. But I will take your challenge. Sure, 100 pages, no problem. Basically, would you like to do the same? There are many books in mind, so many choices. I would like to ask you to read "the selfish Gene" but that is over a few hundred pages. So, if that seems to much for you right now, why dont you read "Atheism: The Case Against God" by George H. Smith. Good book and it isnt that long.

What do you mean when you say your dealing with people that have not dealt with life? What do you think life is? How do you know that I or others on here havent been through what you've been through? Shit, I have seen things, I have seen many fucking things, man. I pay my bills, I take care of my shit. I have been through it all, suicide, death, illness, disease, poverty, jail, you name. So dont say that I havent dealt with "life" cuz I've dealt with it all.

2-0-Sixx · Oct 10, 2002

Hell fucking ya 2pac was acting irrational. Shit, dont get me wrong, I respect pac and his music, but most of the shit he did in life was irrational.

Dosia · Oct 10, 2002

@basic....your argument was over the moment you quoted a rapper.....and LMAO@ you quoting 2pac and scarface in a discussion like this.......

2-0-Sixx · Oct 10, 2002

"I dont believe in god, so its odd, that every time I bust Ill shit niggaz scream oh my god" -Esham, The Unholy

Hit The Blunt · Oct 10, 2002

"They are making progress in seeing how people lie and the brain waves that go along with it. They say in 5 years it could be possible to have a "PAGER" like box that can detect someone lying to you."

They CLAIM lie detectors do the same thing.....we know how that goes.

HERESY · Oct 10, 2002

2-0-Sixx said:

man i have explained this before. please ask the web master for access to old files (they have them on another server).....

no you know what.....forget it.

ok look peep this. on september 4th i told the people on this board that within 4 years we would have ORDO AB CHAO. that something would SOON happen that would plunge america into war and from that war (and its events)world war 3. seven days later (SEVEN IS A VERY SIGNIFICENT NUMBER TO YHWH) 9-11 happens. before it all happened what did i say the source was? i told everyone that YHWH told me this. no it wasnt the voice in the back of my head. no the clouds didnt part and the sun wasnt gleaming down in a holy-glorious light.

on september 6th i told the JEWS (BELIEVERS) to observe the TEN DAYS OF AWE. I TOLD THEM AT THE END OF THAT WAS THE 16TH WHICH WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT DAY OF THE OBSERVATION.

in the thread i said that WE WILL HAVE INCREASED BLOOD SHED IN *OCTOBER*. now we have 9 people shot and seven of them dead. just today bush was given power do wage war......not to mention that over seas killings of christians have INCREASED.
once again where did i hear this from YHWH.

i believe in him because he has manifested himself to me in different ways.

if you pay attention to my posts and my NAME (PLEASE LOOK UP THE MEANING) you will see that i am NOT religious peron.

i havent been to church in YEARS. i have NEVER been baptized. i dont TITHE to any church/preacher. i DONT believe what my parents believe in (they are baptist i am not). i adhere TWO RULES (which the ten hang on). 1.love YHWH with all your heart and 2.love your NEIGHBOR (fellow sinner) as YOURSELF.

THIS IS WHY I HAVE NEVER ASKED ANYONE ON THIS SITE TO CONVERT TO ANY WAY OF BELIEF OR FAITH. I HAVE *NEVER* TOLD *ANYONE* ON THIS SITE THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HEAVEN OR HELL.

THE ONLY THING I DO IS TESTIFY OF THE ONE WHO SENT ME. SO WHAT WILL HAPPEN NOW? YOU WILL MOST LIKELY PICK APART THIS POST,DISSECT IT AND FIND OUT HOW ITS IRRATIONAL (ONCE AGAIN BY *YOUR* STANDARDS).........

YHWH WILL TALK TO YOU IF YOU ARE THE SPIRIT OF YHWH.

:h:

APOSTATE

ToNgAn_SaV · Oct 14, 2002

Dosia said:

i've never seen or heard of person who didn't get married in a church.

Dosia said:

nice try, simple answer is what i asked for not this bullshit, and i'm not gay. i don't agree with it, just wanted to see what an athiest view on it was.

Dosia said:

some people wait until their married to have sex because to them it's something sacred.

Dosia said:

1. i have no personal definition of moral the definition of moral can be found in the dictionary.

2. people look at morals like something to live by. some people choose to live by the gun and die by the gun. some people choose to live by morals and die by morals. i believe in morals because it's not meant to hurt me in anyway. anything to hurt me or hold me down i'm not fuckin' with it.

Dosia said:

2-0-Sixx · Oct 21, 2002

^^^^You never heard of people not getting married in a church? WTF. All you have to do is go down to the courthouse to get married.

@Heresy

Mam, if you believe in something so much, of course your going to find something. There is bloodshed all the time dawg, you know this. If I say I had a dream that told me there was going to be massive deaths in a week, all I would need to do is pick up a newspaper to find death. Yo, I believe you when you say you hear this from YHWH. Im sure you believe this. That doesnt meen I should.

I know this. I know what your name means. But you do have your own religios beliefs...Its all good. I dont care what you believe in. I disagree with alot of it, but I also agree with alot too.

Well, if you think this is picking apart, then maybe...but I dont see it that way...Just talkin....

So, let me ask you...Are there selected individuals that are the spirit of YHWY or can you become one somehow? So obviously I'm not one, but does that mean I can never become? See I dont like that at all. That would be a sick god if that was the case. Only a few will be rewarded. The rest punished.

ToNgAn_SaV · Oct 22, 2002

2-0-Sixx said:

never knew that. thanks for the info... something simple.

Abraham · Oct 23, 2002

Why do you care so much? what do these other people have to do with you? Fuck em. You can live life without having to care about other people, so then why do it? Who cares what God does and doesn't. He doesnt exist. We can do whatever the hell we want, right?

2-0-Sixx · Oct 23, 2002

Yes you can Abe, and I dont give a shit what you do. Read the fucking thread and you'll see why this is even here in the first place.

BaSICCally · Oct 23, 2002

Dosia I know your not a little kid. But when you criticize what I say and something which I hold to be true. I get offended. It would be one thing if you came at me like a man. But you poke fun and offer no credible evidence to your claims. I used to be like you so I wont be a hypocrite and talk shit. I just take this shit seriously. So I apologize. I hate it too when I am treated like a little kid. So I will leave it at that.....

XCHANGO4 · Oct 24, 2002

NO GOD AIN'T NEVER DONE SHIT FOR ME
I FIND PEACE AND CONTENT IN FREINDS AND FAMILY
GOD I BELIEVE RESIDES IN EACH ONE OF MY LOVED ONES
NO PEACE HAS EVER BEEN INSIDE OF ME EXCEPT IN THE PRESENCE OF THOSE FEW

DubbC415 · Oct 24, 2002

I think u believe what u believe, like soakgame said, in this day n age, nothing is rational, im starting to question logic even. i used ta think, why would God let this happen to people? but sometimez logic and rationality doesnt even answer that. the only thing iz that sometimez people seem to believe in God cuz they need to believe in something, and why not such a thing as a god? i think the Bible wasnt supposed to be taken literally. God represents good on earth, and the devil represents evil. God is also just faith. some people need ta put their faith in something. just my two cents.

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