Take off your blind folds and read what this man has just typed down because it is serious. I might go into detail in a post my views on a problem or two with the black community, if I feel you guys' are fit to hear it, but read what he had to say because its similar. I will tell you this, it has alot to do with blacks holding each other back as opposed to the people you all blame for it.
Who should be responsible for fixing the problems with blacks in the US?
- Thread starter Snubnoze
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YOU DONT KNOW WHAT I WOULD DO. THE ONLY THING YOU ARE DOING IS "ASSUMING". NOW IF I HAD SAID IF I DID THIS IN CALI BLAH BLAH BLAH...WELL YOU WOULD HAVE A CASE.
THATS GREAT BUT WHY ARE YOU APPLYING SPECIFIC LOCATIONS? I NEVER GAVE YOU ONE? SINCE I NEVER GAV EYOU ONE DONT APPLY ONE TO ME. THE ONLY THING I SAID WAS IF I DID BLAH BLAH BLAH. CALIFORNIA ISNT RELEVENT. WHATS RELEVENT IS THE FACT THAT YOU SAID ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO BE TRIED FOR MURDER...WHEN IT ISNT. END OF STORY.
I'VE TRIED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT SPECIFIC PROBLEMS IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY. YOU HAVE YET TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS OR YOU HAVE ANSWERED AND SAID YOU DONT KNOW THE ANSWER. YOU MENTIONED BLACKS AND SLAVERY. I MENTIONED BLACKS IN THE CURRENT STATE OF ECONOMIC,MENTAL AND PHYSICAL SLAVERY TODAY.
YOU HAVENT SAID ***ANYTHING*** REMOTELY IMPORTANT. THOSE QUESTIONS ARE RELEVENT TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND VARIOUS PROBLEMS THAT EXIST. ARE YOU READING THE POSTS? I HAVE. SO FAR I HAVE YET TO SEE YOU PRESENT A SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEMS IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY. THIS IS ECONOMIC SLAVERY. I WISH YOU WOULD ADDRESS IT BECAUSE YOU HAVENT ADDRESSED ANYTHING YET. OK. I BELIEVE I CALLED YOU A BLIND RACIST. IMO A DIFFERENCE EXISTS. YOU DIDNT KNOW THAT *I* WOULD DO IT BUT YOU KNEW SOMEONE WOULD DO IT...WELL WHOEVER DID IT HAS YOUR CARD...JUST LOOK AT YOUR STATEMENTS MAN. I'LL WAIT FOR YOUR OTHER REPLIES. THE ONES WITH MEANING...IF YOU HAVE ANY... IT ALL GOES BACK TO YOUR COMMENT ABOUT FRESNO. IT ALSO DEALS WITH LACK OF EXPOSURE. PEOPLE LIKE YOU TEND TO HAVE A LACK OF EXPOSURE. YOU HAVENT INTERACTED WITH CERTAIN CULTURES,TRADED IDEAS ETC ETC ETC. NOW IM NOT SAYING THATS THE CASE WITH *YOU*. WHAT IM SAYING IS PEOPLE WHO SAY THE THINGS YOU SAY ARE USUALLY PEOPLE THAT GET INFO ABOUT BLACKS FROM BET AND THE SOURCE.
THE ORIGINAL ANSWER MADE NO SENSE AT ALL. BTW TELLING ME YOU HAVENT SEEN GHETTOS OUTSIDE OF CALI DOESNT ANSWER THE QUESTION. IF YOU ASKED ME HAVE I BEEN TO IDAHO (WHICH I HAVE) AND I REPLY WITH "I HAVE NEVER SEEN GHETTOS OUTSIDE OF IDAHO" WOULD THAT BE LOGICAL? NO IT WOULDNT BE. SURE YOU DID. WAISTING TIME? CAN YOU LIST 3 PROBLEMS YOU HAVE STATED IN YOUR POSTS? AFTER THAT CAN YOU PRESENT YOUR SOLUTIONS? 1.YOU DONT WANT TO HEAR HISTORY. YOU HAVE ALREADY SHUT THE DOOR TO INFORMATION. YOU DONT KNOW IT ALL.
2.YOU DONT KNOW EVERY EDUCATED BLACK MAN SO YOU DONT KNOW WHAT HE WOULD ANSWER AND TELL YOU. DO YOU THINK CLARENCE THOMAS WOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED 400 YEARS AGO?
3,THE INFO *WILL* HELP PEOPLE IN POOR AND STRUGGLING NEIGHBORHOODS. WHY? MANY OF THESE PEOPLE *LACK* FAMILY VALUES AND CONCEPTS. CONCEPTS THAT ALLOWED FAMILIES TO SURVIVE AND NOT BE LYNCHED BY "MASSAH"
4.CAN YOU PLEASE CUT AND PASTE THAT *ILL* STATEMENT THAT YOU MADE PREIVIOUSLY? YOU KNOW THE ONE THAT YOU CORRECTED? THE ONE ABOUT BLACKS KEEPING RACISM GOING? YEAH POST THAT FOR US AGAIN.
5.YOU AND OTHERS ARE TURNING THE OPRESSED INTO THE OPRESSOR. BAD MOVE.
6.IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND THE PRESENT AND FUTURE YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THE PAST. THATS SOMETHING YOU DONT UNDERSTAND. YOU SEEM TO SWEEP IT UNDER TEH RUG. YOU DONT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BLACKS HAVE TRIED TO BECOME BUSINESS OWNERS,OWN LAND ETC ETC ETC.
7. I SEE HOW YOU SKIPPED OVER THE PART ABOUT THE NFL. WHY DIDNT YOU ADDRESS IT? I'D LIKE TO HEAR (READ) YOUR REPLY TO THAT.
8. A MONTH OR SO BACK THIS TOPIC WAS COVERED. IF YOU WOULD LIKE MORE INFO I SUGGEST YOU CHECK THE PAST THREADS. YOU CAN GATHER A LOT OF INFO. MUCH OF WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING (99% OF IT) HAS BEEN DISCUSSED (IN DETAIL) IN THE OTHER THREAD.
9.I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION ABOUT VOTING (I BELIEVE IT WAS YOU). YOU HAVE YET TO REPLY TO MY ANSWER. IF THAT WASNT YOU MY APOLOGIES.
@TENK THIS IS LIKE DEALING WITH NINEWUNSIXX ALL OVER AGAIN. OH YEAH TENK I WILL GET AT YOU IN PM ABOUT WHAT YOU ASKED ME.
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YOU HAVENT SAID ***ANYTHING*** REMOTELY IMPORTANT. THOSE QUESTIONS ARE RELEVENT TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND VARIOUS PROBLEMS THAT EXIST. ARE YOU READING THE POSTS? I HAVE. SO FAR I HAVE YET TO SEE YOU PRESENT A SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEMS IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY. THIS IS ECONOMIC SLAVERY. I WISH YOU WOULD ADDRESS IT BECAUSE YOU HAVENT ADDRESSED ANYTHING YET. OK. I BELIEVE I CALLED YOU A BLIND RACIST. IMO A DIFFERENCE EXISTS. YOU DIDNT KNOW THAT *I* WOULD DO IT BUT YOU KNEW SOMEONE WOULD DO IT...WELL WHOEVER DID IT HAS YOUR CARD...JUST LOOK AT YOUR STATEMENTS MAN. I'LL WAIT FOR YOUR OTHER REPLIES. THE ONES WITH MEANING...IF YOU HAVE ANY... IT ALL GOES BACK TO YOUR COMMENT ABOUT FRESNO. IT ALSO DEALS WITH LACK OF EXPOSURE. PEOPLE LIKE YOU TEND TO HAVE A LACK OF EXPOSURE. YOU HAVENT INTERACTED WITH CERTAIN CULTURES,TRADED IDEAS ETC ETC ETC. NOW IM NOT SAYING THATS THE CASE WITH *YOU*. WHAT IM SAYING IS PEOPLE WHO SAY THE THINGS YOU SAY ARE USUALLY PEOPLE THAT GET INFO ABOUT BLACKS FROM BET AND THE SOURCE.
THE ORIGINAL ANSWER MADE NO SENSE AT ALL. BTW TELLING ME YOU HAVENT SEEN GHETTOS OUTSIDE OF CALI DOESNT ANSWER THE QUESTION. IF YOU ASKED ME HAVE I BEEN TO IDAHO (WHICH I HAVE) AND I REPLY WITH "I HAVE NEVER SEEN GHETTOS OUTSIDE OF IDAHO" WOULD THAT BE LOGICAL? NO IT WOULDNT BE. SURE YOU DID. WAISTING TIME? CAN YOU LIST 3 PROBLEMS YOU HAVE STATED IN YOUR POSTS? AFTER THAT CAN YOU PRESENT YOUR SOLUTIONS? 1.YOU DONT WANT TO HEAR HISTORY. YOU HAVE ALREADY SHUT THE DOOR TO INFORMATION. YOU DONT KNOW IT ALL.
2.YOU DONT KNOW EVERY EDUCATED BLACK MAN SO YOU DONT KNOW WHAT HE WOULD ANSWER AND TELL YOU. DO YOU THINK CLARENCE THOMAS WOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED 400 YEARS AGO?
3,THE INFO *WILL* HELP PEOPLE IN POOR AND STRUGGLING NEIGHBORHOODS. WHY? MANY OF THESE PEOPLE *LACK* FAMILY VALUES AND CONCEPTS. CONCEPTS THAT ALLOWED FAMILIES TO SURVIVE AND NOT BE LYNCHED BY "MASSAH"
4.CAN YOU PLEASE CUT AND PASTE THAT *ILL* STATEMENT THAT YOU MADE PREIVIOUSLY? YOU KNOW THE ONE THAT YOU CORRECTED? THE ONE ABOUT BLACKS KEEPING RACISM GOING? YEAH POST THAT FOR US AGAIN.
5.YOU AND OTHERS ARE TURNING THE OPRESSED INTO THE OPRESSOR. BAD MOVE.
6.IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND THE PRESENT AND FUTURE YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THE PAST. THATS SOMETHING YOU DONT UNDERSTAND. YOU SEEM TO SWEEP IT UNDER TEH RUG. YOU DONT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BLACKS HAVE TRIED TO BECOME BUSINESS OWNERS,OWN LAND ETC ETC ETC.
7. I SEE HOW YOU SKIPPED OVER THE PART ABOUT THE NFL. WHY DIDNT YOU ADDRESS IT? I'D LIKE TO HEAR (READ) YOUR REPLY TO THAT.
8. A MONTH OR SO BACK THIS TOPIC WAS COVERED. IF YOU WOULD LIKE MORE INFO I SUGGEST YOU CHECK THE PAST THREADS. YOU CAN GATHER A LOT OF INFO. MUCH OF WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING (99% OF IT) HAS BEEN DISCUSSED (IN DETAIL) IN THE OTHER THREAD.
9.I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION ABOUT VOTING (I BELIEVE IT WAS YOU). YOU HAVE YET TO REPLY TO MY ANSWER. IF THAT WASNT YOU MY APOLOGIES.
@TENK THIS IS LIKE DEALING WITH NINEWUNSIXX ALL OVER AGAIN. OH YEAH TENK I WILL GET AT YOU IN PM ABOUT WHAT YOU ASKED ME.
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One could never be soo wrong....
"If you know what your talking about than I have no problem with you or anyone agreeing or disagreeing"
You don't even understand how history is apart of the black community, what your doing is denying it. You want to talk about the present but the present problems are from the past which dates back to slavery and Jim Crow Era. Like I told you time and time, you'll never understand with the "experience" you supposedly have and the "knowledge" you supposedly have on the issue. You are clearly not showing your knowledge bro...
Not one bit.
What did I say the previous post?
"Lets not kid ourselves, there are sooooooooooooo many problems in the black community it is not even funny."
So you asked how does learning about History help poor black people? Well it's simple it is only 1 ELEMENT in helping, learning about your history especially if you've been stripped of your culture builds your character. Gives you a sense of pride in who you are and your people. Remember I also said that it's important that blacks learn investment classes and econ classes that pertain to the black community? How does this help poor people today? It's simple this sets the tone on how the problems in the black community will be tackled. When black people start to see that investing, starting there own businesses, helps the community they will act on it, especially when they start to see the rewards.
Blacks picking up the econ classes, history classes will learn how important it is to help each other instead of the "Mines" attitude, I'm out to get "mines", it's all about "mines" will start to vanish when they look at the big picture. The problem is lack of education, or wait maybe not lack but proper education which would benefit them.
The more blacks own businesses invest for themselves and for each other, the less poor people you will see in the streets. THIS IS HOW EDUCATION HELPS, it's COMMON SENSE.
KEEP IN MIND THAT this is only a fraction a small fraction of what needs to be done to help the black community. DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
REMEMBER I did say that it's important to BREED a generation of blacks that are knowledgeable of the solutions to our problems. Some of the solutions lie in education, which I've been stating throughout this thread. I couldn't stress education enough.
LASTLY, a lot of blacks are going to have to make sacrifices, we will need the people to step up and be the first examples of this. You need a team of people with the same goals in mind and they need to diffuse there efforts and spread it, but finance is important also so we would need some successful black males and females to sacrifice finance. If we combine together and tackle these problems I don't see how it's unrealistic that the problems in the community will shrink significantly.
Heresy, get at my mail when it's convenient for you...
"If you know what your talking about than I have no problem with you or anyone agreeing or disagreeing"
You don't even understand how history is apart of the black community, what your doing is denying it. You want to talk about the present but the present problems are from the past which dates back to slavery and Jim Crow Era. Like I told you time and time, you'll never understand with the "experience" you supposedly have and the "knowledge" you supposedly have on the issue. You are clearly not showing your knowledge bro...
Not one bit.
What did I say the previous post?
"Lets not kid ourselves, there are sooooooooooooo many problems in the black community it is not even funny."
So you asked how does learning about History help poor black people? Well it's simple it is only 1 ELEMENT in helping, learning about your history especially if you've been stripped of your culture builds your character. Gives you a sense of pride in who you are and your people. Remember I also said that it's important that blacks learn investment classes and econ classes that pertain to the black community? How does this help poor people today? It's simple this sets the tone on how the problems in the black community will be tackled. When black people start to see that investing, starting there own businesses, helps the community they will act on it, especially when they start to see the rewards.
Blacks picking up the econ classes, history classes will learn how important it is to help each other instead of the "Mines" attitude, I'm out to get "mines", it's all about "mines" will start to vanish when they look at the big picture. The problem is lack of education, or wait maybe not lack but proper education which would benefit them.
The more blacks own businesses invest for themselves and for each other, the less poor people you will see in the streets. THIS IS HOW EDUCATION HELPS, it's COMMON SENSE.
KEEP IN MIND THAT this is only a fraction a small fraction of what needs to be done to help the black community. DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
REMEMBER I did say that it's important to BREED a generation of blacks that are knowledgeable of the solutions to our problems. Some of the solutions lie in education, which I've been stating throughout this thread. I couldn't stress education enough.
LASTLY, a lot of blacks are going to have to make sacrifices, we will need the people to step up and be the first examples of this. You need a team of people with the same goals in mind and they need to diffuse there efforts and spread it, but finance is important also so we would need some successful black males and females to sacrifice finance. If we combine together and tackle these problems I don't see how it's unrealistic that the problems in the community will shrink significantly.
Heresy, get at my mail when it's convenient for you...
I appreciate it... And I really do agree with you that black people are holding themselves down. Granted, there's a few white people here and there who are racist but lets look at it real. Do you seriously believe there are more white people who are prejudiced against black people then there are blacks who are prejudiced against whites? Just surfing the siccness you can see it. I fight with people for a hobby around here, and do I ever bring up their race? No. I am in the mindset that if I bring up someone's race I wouldn't just be an ignorant fuck, I'd be flat out wrong, no matter what my point is. The people that know I'm white though? Well hey, "Fuck you cracker! You don't know shit about rap!"
Ok... I'm at the siccness. That's speakin' a lot on my character regardless of my skin color. What I'm basically saying is that racism would die as much as it possibly could (there's always one or two idiots in EVERY race) if you'd stop shoving it in the faces of every race that exists. For example, this country is so NOT racist that there's a black man as our secretary of state (Colin Powell) and because he's a successful and highly educated black man, he's a "house nigger"...
Wake the fuck up. Yeah I'm white. No I don't hate you because of your skin color. Whether you want to admit it or not, I am representing a majority of not just the white population, but humans in general (in this country at least).
Ok... I'm at the siccness. That's speakin' a lot on my character regardless of my skin color. What I'm basically saying is that racism would die as much as it possibly could (there's always one or two idiots in EVERY race) if you'd stop shoving it in the faces of every race that exists. For example, this country is so NOT racist that there's a black man as our secretary of state (Colin Powell) and because he's a successful and highly educated black man, he's a "house nigger"...
Wake the fuck up. Yeah I'm white. No I don't hate you because of your skin color. Whether you want to admit it or not, I am representing a majority of not just the white population, but humans in general (in this country at least).
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i think many of the people on this post have a seriously *self centered* view as to the problems with blacks in america...for each persons arguments and points of view i have yet to see one person realize that there is a multi-complex issue pertaining to black americans today and their past. as i stated very early in this thread, i want to start with the basics. civilizations are based on 5 institutions (generally), religion, economics, politics, family, and education. now picture mentally a bar graph, each of these 5 being different colors on a giant graph, two subjects, one white, one black. each institution has its own specific meaning (which im going to assume is self explanatory to most), for a civilization to be balanced and harmonious, these 5 institutions must keep up with one another, think of it as like...repairing an old tv and taking out one part and replacing it with a brand new one, sooner or later something else is going to fail because it cant keep up with the brand new part, sooner or later everything else must be replaced etc...apply that to american society now....NOW--in times of slavery compare the white and black sides of ur mental bar graph....whos bars are higher?...and after slavery ended....who made it a point to keep the black bars lower? slavery isnt something that happened eons ago...DO NOT COMPARE TIME WITH OUR PUNY LIFE SPANS!!! everyone wants to think problems in society will be fixed in a life span (psychological self centerism, ppl base time and past of which things they havent experienced and place them onto their own timeline in order to better understand them) so....now think of the 1900's up until around 1990...the white bars made tremedous leaps and bounds through self ownership and white owned businesses, blacks hardly had an opportunity to run ANYTHING by themselves!!! THINK OF HOW THAT AFFECTS THE BLACK RACE NOW!!! generations of not owning THEIR OWN businesses and RUNNING THEIR OWN LIVES!! THEIR BARS WERE SIMPLY LOWER! IM GOING TO STOP HERE, i could explain more but i feel it is important those who do not understand come to grips by their own means as they will find it easier to cope with them being wrong or having close minded views...social status is all about UNDERSTANDING...how hard do u think it is for a white man to see the black mans point of view while standing SOOO much higher on top a pillar of BARS....WHILE BLACK MEN ARE JUST TRYING TO KEEP OUT FROM BEHIND BARS! AND VICE VERSA...how can a black man understand a white mans point of view looking from bars so low on the graph.....i pose these ideas in many different ways, im white and have had so much education on this subject...AND EXPERIENCE...my dad and brother are QUITE racist and subsequentially i WAS one back in MIDDLE SCHOOL...the N word has flown out of my mouth WAY too many times at school..ive seen the other side of the fence...and misunderstanding only shows ignorance...thank you for reading
i think many of the people on this post have a seriously *self centered* view as to the problems with blacks in america...for each persons arguments and points of view i have yet to see one person realize that there is a multi-complex issue pertaining to black americans today and their past. as i stated very early in this thread, i want to start with the basics. civilizations are based on 5 institutions (generally), religion, economics, politics, family, and education. now picture mentally a bar graph, each of these 5 being different colors on a giant graph, two subjects, one white, one black. each institution has its own specific meaning (which im going to assume is self explanatory to most), for a civilization to be balanced and harmonious, these 5 institutions must keep up with one another, think of it as like...repairing an old tv and taking out one part and replacing it with a brand new one, sooner or later something else is going to fail because it cant keep up with the brand new part, sooner or later everything else must be replaced etc...apply that to american society now....NOW--in times of slavery compare the white and black sides of ur mental bar graph....whos bars are higher?...and after slavery ended....who made it a point to keep the black bars lower? slavery isnt something that happened eons ago...DO NOT COMPARE TIME WITH OUR PUNY LIFE SPANS!!! everyone wants to think problems in society will be fixed in a life span (psychological self centerism, ppl base time and past of which things they havent experienced and place them onto their own timeline in order to better understand them) so....now think of the 1900's up until around 1990...the white bars made tremedous leaps and bounds through self ownership and white owned businesses, blacks hardly had an opportunity to run ANYTHING by themselves!!! THINK OF HOW THAT AFFECTS THE BLACK RACE NOW!!! generations of not owning THEIR OWN businesses and RUNNING THEIR OWN LIVES!! THEIR BARS WERE SIMPLY LOWER! IM GOING TO STOP HERE, i could explain more but i feel it is important those who do not understand come to grips by their own means as they will find it easier to cope with them being wrong or having close minded views...social status is all about UNDERSTANDING...how hard do u think it is for a white man to see the black mans point of view while standing SOOO much higher on top a pillar of BARS....WHILE BLACK MEN ARE JUST TRYING TO KEEP OUT FROM BEHIND BARS! AND VICE VERSA...how can a black man understand a white mans point of view looking from bars so low on the graph.....i pose these ideas in many different ways, im white and have had so much education on this subject...AND EXPERIENCE...my dad and brother are QUITE racist and subsequentially i WAS one back in MIDDLE SCHOOL...the N word has flown out of my mouth WAY too many times at school..ive seen the other side of the fence...and misunderstanding only shows ignorance...thank you for reading
@kryptic you said:
have you read what tenk or myself posted?
tenk and myself have touched on these topics yet NITRO doesnt address them...kinda makes you wonder...
nitro doesnt understand this. i mentioned it and tenk mentioned it but he cant grasp this.
by all means please explain,elaborate etc etc etc. we want more.
@zero media you quoted nitro who said
1.nitro said he MIGHT go into detail about problems in the community. i have asked NITRO on SEVERAL occassions to present these problems AND solutions.
2.who is NITRO to decide if someone is "FIT" or not? if he has KNOWLEDGE or a SOLUTION to a PROBLEM why not SHARE it?
3.***that**** quote is at odds with EVERYTHING he has said previously. what he is doing is simply saying teh same thing...which isnt saying much. i agree that blacks hold themselves down. i also KNOW that OTHER people are EXPLOITING black labor,sexuality,ideas,creativity and culture for FINANCIAL GAIN. a few???? LMAO! *IF* MORE BLACKS ARE PREJUDICED AGAINST WHITES *WHY* IS THAT? IS IT DUE TO RESENTMENT,FRUSTRATION,DNA,CULTURE AND "THE AMERICAN WAY"? OR DID BLACKS JUST WAKE UP AND ALL OF A SUDDEN START BEING RACIST AGAINST WHITE PEOPLE? BLACKS BEING RACIST AGAINST "WHITES" IS A BY-PRODUCT. SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD *NOT* HAVE HAD IF IT WASNT FOR SLAVERY AND EURO/WHITE AMERICA.
JUST CURIOUS ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE WILLIE LYNCH SPEECH????? HOW DOES YOUR PRESENCE ON THE SICCNESS...WELL FORGET IT... "YEAH MASSAH WE BE A GOODS OLE BOY AND WE BE JUS WANTIN TA SWEEP IT UNDA DA RUG MASSAH. LETS DOWNPLAY IT MASSAH N NOT ADDRESS TEH ISSUES SUH..THAT WAY WEN DEM DER YUNGINS GET BIGGA THEY WONT HAB TO GO THRU THEM DER PROBLEMS WE BE HABBIN TO GO THROU" SOMEONE WHO IS ENVIOUS OF HIM MAY CALL HIM A HOUSE NIGGER WITHOUT ANY REASON. I WILL CALL HIM A HOUSE NIGGER AND *MORE* AND TELL YOU *EXACTLY* WHY I FEEL HE IS ONE. IT HAS *NOTHING* TO DO WITH HIM BEING SUCCESFUL OR EDUCATED. WHAT IT *DOES* HAVE TO DO WITH IS HIS INVOLVEMENT WITH THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS AND THE TRILATERAL COMMISION. NOW IF *YOU* WANT TO DISCUSS THAT WE CAN. I APPRECIATE YOUR WORDS MY FRIEND. HOWEVER I DONT THINK YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE "WE" ARE COMING FROM. HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THE POST MADE BY KRYPTIC?
EXCUSE THEM ALL
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@zero media you quoted nitro who said
1.nitro said he MIGHT go into detail about problems in the community. i have asked NITRO on SEVERAL occassions to present these problems AND solutions.
2.who is NITRO to decide if someone is "FIT" or not? if he has KNOWLEDGE or a SOLUTION to a PROBLEM why not SHARE it?
3.***that**** quote is at odds with EVERYTHING he has said previously. what he is doing is simply saying teh same thing...which isnt saying much. i agree that blacks hold themselves down. i also KNOW that OTHER people are EXPLOITING black labor,sexuality,ideas,creativity and culture for FINANCIAL GAIN. a few???? LMAO! *IF* MORE BLACKS ARE PREJUDICED AGAINST WHITES *WHY* IS THAT? IS IT DUE TO RESENTMENT,FRUSTRATION,DNA,CULTURE AND "THE AMERICAN WAY"? OR DID BLACKS JUST WAKE UP AND ALL OF A SUDDEN START BEING RACIST AGAINST WHITE PEOPLE? BLACKS BEING RACIST AGAINST "WHITES" IS A BY-PRODUCT. SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD *NOT* HAVE HAD IF IT WASNT FOR SLAVERY AND EURO/WHITE AMERICA.
JUST CURIOUS ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE WILLIE LYNCH SPEECH????? HOW DOES YOUR PRESENCE ON THE SICCNESS...WELL FORGET IT... "YEAH MASSAH WE BE A GOODS OLE BOY AND WE BE JUS WANTIN TA SWEEP IT UNDA DA RUG MASSAH. LETS DOWNPLAY IT MASSAH N NOT ADDRESS TEH ISSUES SUH..THAT WAY WEN DEM DER YUNGINS GET BIGGA THEY WONT HAB TO GO THRU THEM DER PROBLEMS WE BE HABBIN TO GO THROU" SOMEONE WHO IS ENVIOUS OF HIM MAY CALL HIM A HOUSE NIGGER WITHOUT ANY REASON. I WILL CALL HIM A HOUSE NIGGER AND *MORE* AND TELL YOU *EXACTLY* WHY I FEEL HE IS ONE. IT HAS *NOTHING* TO DO WITH HIM BEING SUCCESFUL OR EDUCATED. WHAT IT *DOES* HAVE TO DO WITH IS HIS INVOLVEMENT WITH THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS AND THE TRILATERAL COMMISION. NOW IF *YOU* WANT TO DISCUSS THAT WE CAN. I APPRECIATE YOUR WORDS MY FRIEND. HOWEVER I DONT THINK YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE "WE" ARE COMING FROM. HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THE POST MADE BY KRYPTIC?
EXCUSE THEM ALL
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How does that explain the fact that while blacks were still runnin' around in loin cloths and cursing rain thinking it's evil spirits while whites were traveling the world and founding civilized cultures?
Hey man, I didn't buy slaves. Were YOU a slave? So if you hate me because I'm white, how could you claim it has anything to do with slavery? You and I have never experienced it, and even when you were swimmin' around in your moms panties, slavery was long since abolished.
And last I checked, it was white people who fought to abolish slavery in the first place.
People exploit EVERYONE and EVERYTHING for financial gain. It's just that the black population would like to see everything as being against them.
Juvenile can stick a black girls ass in a music video, and that's cool. Then if I do it, I'm exploiting black people? This is a perfect example of the racism... Black against white. Ya know, if I saw a hot black chick I'd flat out say it and would I date her? Hell yes I would! I might not see her as "black" as much as I see her as "hot", but I guarantee that black people would just see a black girl with a white guy.
I'm not able to articulate what I'm trying to get at right now... ::sigh::
Negative.
Perfect example of why blacks are just sittin' around bitching... Good work. I'm sorry, I thought we were discussing racism, not history. Yes, by "history" I mean slavery. You can't sit here and debate racism with me without throwing slavery around? I'm not suprised. This is exactly my point.
Funny, when I disagree with a politician or their politics, race NEVER comes up. Do you think that if I didn't like George Bush's policies, I'd feel that he was betraying my white race and bowing down to the black man? That's laughable.
George Bush is a house cracker.
I can honestly say that you're right. I can't for the life of me not just understand, but even begin to figure out where you're coming from. I personally don't descriminate against people because of their race, and on a daily basis I don't ever think of my skin color or anyone elses, let alone bring it up in conversation but it appears that black people do. Probably more than any other race. Now what does that imply? It implies to me, that black people are more racist than whites.
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THIS GUY IS A RACIST ALSO!!! WTF?!?!?
ZERO MEDIA? EVERY OUNCE OF RESPECT I HAD FOR YOU HAS GONE OUT THE WINDOW. 1.IT ISNT A "FACT" THAT BLACKS WERE RUNNING AROUND IN LOIN CLOTHS.
2.WHAT BLACKS WERE CURSING RAIN THINKING IT WAS AN EVIL SPIRIT?
3.WHAT WHITES WERE TRAVELING AROUND THE WORLD AND FINDING CIVILIZED CULTURES? WHITE/EUROPEANS BUTCHERED DAMN NEAR EVERYONE THEY CAME ACROSS. THEY GOT THE CHINESE HOOKED ON DOG FOOD (HOP),USED AFRICANS AS SLAVES (WIPING OUT CULTURES AND CIVILIZATIONS) ERADICATED THE NATIVE AMERICANS (WIPING OUT CULTURES AND CIVILIZATIONS) AND SPREAD SICKNESS ACROSS THE WORLD.
WERE THE EGYPTIANS CURSING THE RAIN? OR WHERE THE SKILLED IN ENGINEERING,MEDICINE, MATH AND SCIENCE?
WERE THE ETHIOPIANS THE ONES WHO MISCONSTRUED THE BIBLE AND USED IT TO KILL IN THE NAME OF GOD? OR DID THEY FOLLOW TORRAH ***BEFORE*** THE "WHITE MAN" EVEN KNEW "JESUS" EXISTED?????? BEFORE KING JAMES EVER LAID HIS GRUBBY HANDS ON A BIBLE....
ALL AFRICANS *DONT* WEAR LOIN CLOTHES. WHAT YOU POSTED WAS SOMETHING DIRECTLY FROM A RACIST WEB SITE.
HOW CAN YOU FIND A "CIVILIZED" CULTURE WHEN YOU ARE BARBARIC,EATING RAW MEAT AND DESTROYING EVERYTHING IN YOUR PATH? NO ONE SAID THAT YOU PURCHASED SLAVES. I HAVE NOT IMPLIED THAT I WAS A SLAVE. IT HAS TO DO WITH SLAVERY BECAUSE ITS A "BY PRODUCT" THE HATRED (RACISM) COMES FROM YEARS OF ABUSE AND OPPRESSION THAT HAS BEEN *BRED* INTO OUR "MENTAL"! BLACKS HAVE BEEN "CONDITIONED" OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. I HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED "SLAVERY" ON *THAT* SCALE.
WHAT I HAVE EXPERIENCED IS THE POLICE VIOLATING MY RIGHTS, PEOPLE FOLLOWING ME IN STORES, IDIOTS TAKING DOWN MY LICENSE PLATE,PEOPLE LOCKING DOORS WHEN THEY SEE ME, ETC ETC ETC. TELL ME WHEN WAS SLAVERY ABOLISHED AND BY WHOM? I CAN ALMOST GURANTEE THAT YOU SAY ABE LINCOLN AND REFER TO THE CIVIL WAR...IF SO LMAO!
DO CRACK BABIES HOLD GLASS PIPES? NO. DO THEY FEEL THE REPERCUSSION BECAUSE OF THE SMOKERS ACTIONS *YES*. THINK ABOUT IT.
HERES THE WORD FOR TODAY CHILDREN: REPERCUSSION AS SOON AS THE FIRST AFRICAN WAS TAKEN AGAINST HIS OR HERS FREE WILL THE FIGHT TO ABOLISH SLAVERY TOOK PLACE (IM TALKING SLAVERY BETWEEN EURO AND AFRIKAN). I ASKED NITRO CERTAIN QUESTIONS AND NOW I WILL ASK YOU.
1.NAME 5 PRODUCTS THAT BLACKS MARKET AND SELL TO WHITES,ASIANS,LATINOS AND JEWS. NAME
2.NAME 5 PRODUCTS THAT THOSE BLACKS MARKET AND SELL TO THOSE RACES. 1.WHO FUNDED JUVINILE THE MONEY TO DO THE VIDEO?
2.WHO WILL RECOUP THE MONEY FOR THE VIDEO AND WHAT WILL THE PERCENTAGE BE?
3.WHO IS IMPLYING THAT ITS "COOL"???? ITS COOL BECAUSE ITS "PACKAGED UP" AND **SOLD** AS COOL...ITS MARKETED AND PROMOTED AS "COOL"...THAT DOESNT MAKE IT COOL...
4.JUVINILE IS RESPONSIBLE ALSO.
5.WHOS GETTING RICH OFF THAT GIRLS ASS IN THE VIDEO?
SOME PEOPLE WOULD SEE IT LIKE THAT. ME? WELL I WOULD MOST LIKELY THINK THAT BOTH OF YOU ARE IDIOTS AND THAT SHE'S MOST LIKELY BLOWING YOUR BEST FRIEND ON THE SIDE...IF YOU CAN LIVE WITH THEM HEY...IT MAKES ME NONE. DATE WHO YA WANNA DATE. SO WHAT DO OLD WHITE LADIES THINK WHEN THEY SEE MY BROTHER WITH BRAIDS AND BAGGY PANTS BUT HE HAS A GRIP OF CASH IN HIS POCKET??? DRUG DEALER? :SHAKING HIS HEAD: LOOK INTO IT. WE WOULD NOT HAVE RACISM (BETWEEN BLACKS AND WHITES IN AMERICA) IF SLAVERY HAD NEVER OCCURED. YOU HAVE NO POINT. WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS SWEEP IT UNDER THE RUG, NOT ADDRESS THE PAST AND TRANSFORM THE OPPRESSED TO THE OPPRESSOR. THATS WHAT YOU ARE DOING. CAN YOU ELABORATE ON POWELL JOINING THE CFR OR TLC? CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THESE ORGANIZATIONS DO AND HOW THEY ARE CONNECTED WITH AFRICA AND THE WORLD CONSERVATION BANK? MY VIEWS ON POWELL HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS EDUCATION OR "SUCCESS". BLIND RACIST #4. IN MANY CULTURES THE DARKER YOU ARE THE LOWER YOU ARE ON THE POLE. YES I UNDERSTAND THAT THE IRISH WERE USED AS SLAVES. IVE TALKED ABOUT IT IN OTHER POSTS. HOW MANY IRISH CAME TO AMERICA VIA FREE WILL?
EXCUSE THEM ALL
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ZERO MEDIA? EVERY OUNCE OF RESPECT I HAD FOR YOU HAS GONE OUT THE WINDOW. 1.IT ISNT A "FACT" THAT BLACKS WERE RUNNING AROUND IN LOIN CLOTHS.
2.WHAT BLACKS WERE CURSING RAIN THINKING IT WAS AN EVIL SPIRIT?
3.WHAT WHITES WERE TRAVELING AROUND THE WORLD AND FINDING CIVILIZED CULTURES? WHITE/EUROPEANS BUTCHERED DAMN NEAR EVERYONE THEY CAME ACROSS. THEY GOT THE CHINESE HOOKED ON DOG FOOD (HOP),USED AFRICANS AS SLAVES (WIPING OUT CULTURES AND CIVILIZATIONS) ERADICATED THE NATIVE AMERICANS (WIPING OUT CULTURES AND CIVILIZATIONS) AND SPREAD SICKNESS ACROSS THE WORLD.
WERE THE EGYPTIANS CURSING THE RAIN? OR WHERE THE SKILLED IN ENGINEERING,MEDICINE, MATH AND SCIENCE?
WERE THE ETHIOPIANS THE ONES WHO MISCONSTRUED THE BIBLE AND USED IT TO KILL IN THE NAME OF GOD? OR DID THEY FOLLOW TORRAH ***BEFORE*** THE "WHITE MAN" EVEN KNEW "JESUS" EXISTED?????? BEFORE KING JAMES EVER LAID HIS GRUBBY HANDS ON A BIBLE....
ALL AFRICANS *DONT* WEAR LOIN CLOTHES. WHAT YOU POSTED WAS SOMETHING DIRECTLY FROM A RACIST WEB SITE.
HOW CAN YOU FIND A "CIVILIZED" CULTURE WHEN YOU ARE BARBARIC,EATING RAW MEAT AND DESTROYING EVERYTHING IN YOUR PATH? NO ONE SAID THAT YOU PURCHASED SLAVES. I HAVE NOT IMPLIED THAT I WAS A SLAVE. IT HAS TO DO WITH SLAVERY BECAUSE ITS A "BY PRODUCT" THE HATRED (RACISM) COMES FROM YEARS OF ABUSE AND OPPRESSION THAT HAS BEEN *BRED* INTO OUR "MENTAL"! BLACKS HAVE BEEN "CONDITIONED" OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. I HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED "SLAVERY" ON *THAT* SCALE.
WHAT I HAVE EXPERIENCED IS THE POLICE VIOLATING MY RIGHTS, PEOPLE FOLLOWING ME IN STORES, IDIOTS TAKING DOWN MY LICENSE PLATE,PEOPLE LOCKING DOORS WHEN THEY SEE ME, ETC ETC ETC. TELL ME WHEN WAS SLAVERY ABOLISHED AND BY WHOM? I CAN ALMOST GURANTEE THAT YOU SAY ABE LINCOLN AND REFER TO THE CIVIL WAR...IF SO LMAO!
DO CRACK BABIES HOLD GLASS PIPES? NO. DO THEY FEEL THE REPERCUSSION BECAUSE OF THE SMOKERS ACTIONS *YES*. THINK ABOUT IT.
HERES THE WORD FOR TODAY CHILDREN: REPERCUSSION AS SOON AS THE FIRST AFRICAN WAS TAKEN AGAINST HIS OR HERS FREE WILL THE FIGHT TO ABOLISH SLAVERY TOOK PLACE (IM TALKING SLAVERY BETWEEN EURO AND AFRIKAN). I ASKED NITRO CERTAIN QUESTIONS AND NOW I WILL ASK YOU.
1.NAME 5 PRODUCTS THAT BLACKS MARKET AND SELL TO WHITES,ASIANS,LATINOS AND JEWS. NAME
2.NAME 5 PRODUCTS THAT THOSE BLACKS MARKET AND SELL TO THOSE RACES. 1.WHO FUNDED JUVINILE THE MONEY TO DO THE VIDEO?
2.WHO WILL RECOUP THE MONEY FOR THE VIDEO AND WHAT WILL THE PERCENTAGE BE?
3.WHO IS IMPLYING THAT ITS "COOL"???? ITS COOL BECAUSE ITS "PACKAGED UP" AND **SOLD** AS COOL...ITS MARKETED AND PROMOTED AS "COOL"...THAT DOESNT MAKE IT COOL...
4.JUVINILE IS RESPONSIBLE ALSO.
5.WHOS GETTING RICH OFF THAT GIRLS ASS IN THE VIDEO?
SOME PEOPLE WOULD SEE IT LIKE THAT. ME? WELL I WOULD MOST LIKELY THINK THAT BOTH OF YOU ARE IDIOTS AND THAT SHE'S MOST LIKELY BLOWING YOUR BEST FRIEND ON THE SIDE...IF YOU CAN LIVE WITH THEM HEY...IT MAKES ME NONE. DATE WHO YA WANNA DATE. SO WHAT DO OLD WHITE LADIES THINK WHEN THEY SEE MY BROTHER WITH BRAIDS AND BAGGY PANTS BUT HE HAS A GRIP OF CASH IN HIS POCKET??? DRUG DEALER? :SHAKING HIS HEAD: LOOK INTO IT. WE WOULD NOT HAVE RACISM (BETWEEN BLACKS AND WHITES IN AMERICA) IF SLAVERY HAD NEVER OCCURED. YOU HAVE NO POINT. WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS SWEEP IT UNDER THE RUG, NOT ADDRESS THE PAST AND TRANSFORM THE OPPRESSED TO THE OPPRESSOR. THATS WHAT YOU ARE DOING. CAN YOU ELABORATE ON POWELL JOINING THE CFR OR TLC? CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THESE ORGANIZATIONS DO AND HOW THEY ARE CONNECTED WITH AFRICA AND THE WORLD CONSERVATION BANK? MY VIEWS ON POWELL HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS EDUCATION OR "SUCCESS". BLIND RACIST #4. IN MANY CULTURES THE DARKER YOU ARE THE LOWER YOU ARE ON THE POLE. YES I UNDERSTAND THAT THE IRISH WERE USED AS SLAVES. IVE TALKED ABOUT IT IN OTHER POSTS. HOW MANY IRISH CAME TO AMERICA VIA FREE WILL?
EXCUSE THEM ALL
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Maybe it came out wrong, but I'm just trying to illustrate that Kryptik's original comment of;
What I'm sayin' is that I can't buy the fact that in the past 100 - 150 years, the black population in America has evolved to have "lower bars". If it were the case that humans could evolve in that manner then why aren't white people aren't terrible workers and the black population in charge of most labor? Afterall, they were the ones in the fields while the white man didn't do shit but sit around and sip lemonade... Understand? Don't call me racist, it's pointless to do so.
Tell your mom to stop "conditioning" you.... Don't "condition" your children.
Blacks are currently conditioning themselves to use the opression of their grandmothers and grandfathers to keep them from advancing themselves as a culture. It's my feeling that blacks are only as "conditioned" as they keep themselves. Slavery never has and never will change what happens when you go in for a job interview.
Oh you think this never happened to me? Stop making skin color your primary issue. I firmly believe that age plays a much bigger role in all of these things than you'd like to believe. I as a white person can't walk up to a guy in a store who's followin' me around and say "you're following me because I'm white!" It's stupid. I'm in the Wiz one time carrying around an 80 dollar discman, a 20 dollar cd, and a 10 pack of batteries that were like 10 bucks. None of these ever came NEAR my pockets and even after I PAID for the shit, when I left the store there were guys out there waiting for me. The two white people (including one female) I was with got followed and at one point a motherfucker actually peeked into my girls bag...
This happens to me all the time, and not because of my skin color, but because of my parents generations fear of our generation. And to be honest, I can't really complain because kids my age and a few years older have fucked it all up. They do rob, they do steal, they can't sit in a parking lot without smashing bottles or breaking lights or generally vandalizing something and it's ruined a lot of things for me... I can accept that whether I like it or not, people of my generation have genuinely fucked up a lot of things for honest and generally nice people. Maybe if you feel that your skin color plays a role in that you should take a step back and ponder why like I do when I'm followed or walking past a car and someone sets the alarm..
Yeah dude, I'm just walkin' past your car because I plan on opening it in front of your face and stealing your ashtray. Fuckin' moron.
See this is a common ground we can all agree on but you need to realize that it's not about race.
Well these are both the same question and I really don't understand your point. I mean if anything black people are segregating themselves for just this reason, if that's what you're getting at. Maybe the point is that white people market products to whoever will buy them, and blacks market things to blacks. This is another reason white people feel distanced from blacks. Not because we don't like them but because (and this is my honest opinion) we feel like they don't WANT to be liked by us.
1.Why do you keep asking questions?
2.When will you start answering them?
I will.
Funny... A white person can show racism towards latinos, asians, indians etc. without them having gone through slavery. Do you think whites are the only one's who are racist against the black population? And do you honestly believe that if slavery never happened all would be right with the world and racism wouldn't exist?
You know who I hate... Those people that come to this country, then walk down the street wearing traditional garb of their country like they never left. If I saw an asian dude walkin' down the street with a kimono on I'd probably question it too, and I don't remember ever learning about the asian slaves we must have owned to spawn that "racism". And it has less to do with racism and more to do with understanding, but that's a different topic.
This really has nothing to do with the "house nigger" thread that my comment refers to. You may not agree with his politics and if his race never comes up to you (which it obviously does considering you bring up organizational policy in reference to Africa) then ignore my point.
Well I lost count a few weeks ago, but where's the Irish talking about "racism"? Where's the Irish bringing up slavery at the drop of a hat? Why as an Irish white person am I not fighting for "reperations"?
Because if I did it would be laughable. Because people aren't used to the Irish bitching about history that does not involve their current lives. Because I can go to a store without seeing a sign that says "Irish and dogs need not apply" and because of that I'm willing to accept that that part of history is just that... history.
What I'm sayin' is that I can't buy the fact that in the past 100 - 150 years, the black population in America has evolved to have "lower bars". If it were the case that humans could evolve in that manner then why aren't white people aren't terrible workers and the black population in charge of most labor? Afterall, they were the ones in the fields while the white man didn't do shit but sit around and sip lemonade... Understand? Don't call me racist, it's pointless to do so.
Tell your mom to stop "conditioning" you.... Don't "condition" your children.
Blacks are currently conditioning themselves to use the opression of their grandmothers and grandfathers to keep them from advancing themselves as a culture. It's my feeling that blacks are only as "conditioned" as they keep themselves. Slavery never has and never will change what happens when you go in for a job interview.
Oh you think this never happened to me? Stop making skin color your primary issue. I firmly believe that age plays a much bigger role in all of these things than you'd like to believe. I as a white person can't walk up to a guy in a store who's followin' me around and say "you're following me because I'm white!" It's stupid. I'm in the Wiz one time carrying around an 80 dollar discman, a 20 dollar cd, and a 10 pack of batteries that were like 10 bucks. None of these ever came NEAR my pockets and even after I PAID for the shit, when I left the store there were guys out there waiting for me. The two white people (including one female) I was with got followed and at one point a motherfucker actually peeked into my girls bag...
This happens to me all the time, and not because of my skin color, but because of my parents generations fear of our generation. And to be honest, I can't really complain because kids my age and a few years older have fucked it all up. They do rob, they do steal, they can't sit in a parking lot without smashing bottles or breaking lights or generally vandalizing something and it's ruined a lot of things for me... I can accept that whether I like it or not, people of my generation have genuinely fucked up a lot of things for honest and generally nice people. Maybe if you feel that your skin color plays a role in that you should take a step back and ponder why like I do when I'm followed or walking past a car and someone sets the alarm..
Yeah dude, I'm just walkin' past your car because I plan on opening it in front of your face and stealing your ashtray. Fuckin' moron.
See this is a common ground we can all agree on but you need to realize that it's not about race.
Well these are both the same question and I really don't understand your point. I mean if anything black people are segregating themselves for just this reason, if that's what you're getting at. Maybe the point is that white people market products to whoever will buy them, and blacks market things to blacks. This is another reason white people feel distanced from blacks. Not because we don't like them but because (and this is my honest opinion) we feel like they don't WANT to be liked by us.
1.Why do you keep asking questions?
2.When will you start answering them?
I will.
Funny... A white person can show racism towards latinos, asians, indians etc. without them having gone through slavery. Do you think whites are the only one's who are racist against the black population? And do you honestly believe that if slavery never happened all would be right with the world and racism wouldn't exist?
You know who I hate... Those people that come to this country, then walk down the street wearing traditional garb of their country like they never left. If I saw an asian dude walkin' down the street with a kimono on I'd probably question it too, and I don't remember ever learning about the asian slaves we must have owned to spawn that "racism". And it has less to do with racism and more to do with understanding, but that's a different topic.
This really has nothing to do with the "house nigger" thread that my comment refers to. You may not agree with his politics and if his race never comes up to you (which it obviously does considering you bring up organizational policy in reference to Africa) then ignore my point.
Well I lost count a few weeks ago, but where's the Irish talking about "racism"? Where's the Irish bringing up slavery at the drop of a hat? Why as an Irish white person am I not fighting for "reperations"?
Because if I did it would be laughable. Because people aren't used to the Irish bitching about history that does not involve their current lives. Because I can go to a store without seeing a sign that says "Irish and dogs need not apply" and because of that I'm willing to accept that that part of history is just that... history.
there will be no progress as long as we argue whose race is better or has the higher moral ground.
neither is better or higher.
culture is what caused the circumstances and slavery.
to understand a people you must understand their cultural circumstances and make efforts to correct harmful pathologies.
I see, know, read, and hear niggas just as "barbaric" as the whites of yesteryear.
look now at all the niggas that are just as racist as some whites against mexicans and arabs.
cultural exclusivity and unmerited/uneducated pride is the cause of MOST social (even civil) ills.
something to ponder
neither is better or higher.
culture is what caused the circumstances and slavery.
to understand a people you must understand their cultural circumstances and make efforts to correct harmful pathologies.
I see, know, read, and hear niggas just as "barbaric" as the whites of yesteryear.
look now at all the niggas that are just as racist as some whites against mexicans and arabs.
cultural exclusivity and unmerited/uneducated pride is the cause of MOST social (even civil) ills.
something to ponder
I disagree that blacks in general have lower bars
I believe some powerful whites recognize blacks as a threat to there hegemony and homogeny. and thus so give my race lower wages. many blacks accept a futile pathology but many such as myself are burdened with proving to white people that "I'm not like THOSE niggas, I'm different" in hopes of getting a fair shot.
even still I am left with "we'll give him a try but if he makes one move that is non conforming we'll ditch him"
White kids will NEVER understand the social barriers of being black without being raised black or with black people.
I have white friends and cousins who were raised black and they find disgust in the blatant injustice that is inherent to white society.
I recommend the book this book Honky by - Dalton Conley -
http://www.freshangles.com/xpressions/litbitz/articles/98.html
alluding to the "glass ceiling"
I believe some powerful whites recognize blacks as a threat to there hegemony and homogeny. and thus so give my race lower wages. many blacks accept a futile pathology but many such as myself are burdened with proving to white people that "I'm not like THOSE niggas, I'm different" in hopes of getting a fair shot.
even still I am left with "we'll give him a try but if he makes one move that is non conforming we'll ditch him"
White kids will NEVER understand the social barriers of being black without being raised black or with black people.
I have white friends and cousins who were raised black and they find disgust in the blatant injustice that is inherent to white society.
I recommend the book this book Honky by - Dalton Conley -
http://www.freshangles.com/xpressions/litbitz/articles/98.html
alluding to the "glass ceiling"
I think to understand a people we need to stop trying so hard to understand or be understood. I don't try to understand a people because understand a people IS racism. I judge individuals, and any judgment I pass on a people, is just a culmination of the opinions about the individuals I've met or listened to.
I understand what you are saying but it is naive to say that a group of people in a particular and concetrated culture or environment are not prone to believe, act, and perform in similar ways. OF COURSE nobody is the same and in every group there are aberrations and dissenting opinions but in general generalized assessments can be made.
an assessment is not racism. it is stereotyping and building a bias.
It is useful to understand a groups mentality but not to judge every individual in the group as an assessment of the whole. that's when it becomes "racism".
ponder
an assessment is not racism. it is stereotyping and building a bias.
It is useful to understand a groups mentality but not to judge every individual in the group as an assessment of the whole. that's when it becomes "racism".
ponder
The loin cloth comment wasn't the one that I thought was racist, I definitly thought it was IGNORANT but not racist however the comment that did it for me was....
"while whites were traveling the world and founding civilized cultures?"
I'm pretty curious to know who taught you that Africans weren't civilized back in the days?
This is the problem yesterday and the proble, today. People thinking that Africans were/are inferior to European descendants. This is what the Europeans thought of Africans when they came to Africa, and this is the reason why they treated Africans in America the way they did. S T U P I D I T Y was what it was....
When you say Africans were denouncing evil spirits and running around in loin cloths your dissing the whole continent. Your dissing the Ancient Egyptians and there incredible civilization, the Songhai Dynasty, the Ancient Ghanaian Dynasties etc. Which is flat out ignorant.
"while whites were traveling the world and founding civilized cultures?"
I'm pretty curious to know who taught you that Africans weren't civilized back in the days?
This is the problem yesterday and the proble, today. People thinking that Africans were/are inferior to European descendants. This is what the Europeans thought of Africans when they came to Africa, and this is the reason why they treated Africans in America the way they did. S T U P I D I T Y was what it was....
When you say Africans were denouncing evil spirits and running around in loin cloths your dissing the whole continent. Your dissing the Ancient Egyptians and there incredible civilization, the Songhai Dynasty, the Ancient Ghanaian Dynasties etc. Which is flat out ignorant.