Who should be responsible for fixing the problems with blacks in the US?

[HERESY]

PAY ATTENTION TO HOW THIS GUY HAS *YET* TO ELABORATE ON A SPECIFIC PROBLEM IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY. PAY ATTENTION TO HOW HE HAS YET TO PRESENT A SOLUTION THAT CAN BE APPLIED TO THE PROBLEM.

THIS PERSON HAS SAID THAT *HE* IS TRYING TO EDUCATE YET HE HAS PRESENTED *NOTHING* TO VALIDATE HIS CLAIM OR ENLIGHTEN *ANYONE*. THIS PERSON CANT EVEN LIST STATISTICS OR ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT ARE RELEVENT TO THE BLACK STRUGGLE. SUCH AS BLACK WALL STREET,BLACK ECONOMICS,BLACKS IN PRISON OR TEEN PREGNANCY RATE.

THIS PERSON DOES NOT REALIZE THAT "WE" ARE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HIM AND OTHERS WHO HOLD VIEWS SIMILAR TO HIS. YET THIS PERSON CONTINUES TO NOT LOOK AT IT FROM "OUR" VIEW AND CONTINUES TO TURN THE OPRESSED INTO THE OPPRESSOR.

IF THIS PERSON WOULD PRESENT LOGICAL DATA, ANY STATISTICS OR A SOLUTION TO CERTAIN PROBLEMS PEOPLE WOULD LISTEN. HOWEVER THIS PERSON IS INCAPABLE OF PROVING *ANYONE* 100% WRONG BECAUSE HE CANT EVEN ANSWER "BASIC" QUESTIONS POSED TO HIM.

THIS PERSON DOES *NOT* KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN BLACK LEADERS MEET WHITE LEADERS. HE HAS A PREDETERMINED MINDSET. ITS *IMPOSSIBLE* TO KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN AND IF THEY MEET BECAUSE WE DONT KNOW "WHO" WILL BE MEETING OR "WHAT" AGENDAS WILL BE DISCUSSED. THIS PERSON HAS OVERLOOKED THE FACT THAT TENK AND MYSELF HAVE STATED THAT WE ARE WILLING TO LEARN,TRADE IDEAS,NETWORK ETC ETC ETC.

I WILL ASK THIS PERSON *ANYTHING* I WANT AND ITS *NOTHING* HE CAN DO ABOUT IT. HOWEVER I *WILL* RESPECT HIS WISHES AND WILL NO LONGER ASK HIM QUESTIONS. SPECIFICALLY THOSE PERTAINING TO:

BLACK ECONIMICS (HE NEVER ANSWERED)

BLACK STATISTICS (IN REGARDS TO AIDS,PRISON,SCHOOLING ETC ETC ETC...WHICH HE NEVER ANSWERED)

PROBLEMS IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEMS (NO ANSWER HERE).

ITS NOT LIKE HE COULD ANSWER THEM ANYWAY.

WE (TENK,LOCA AND MYSELF) HAVE BROUGHT UP MANY POINTS THAT DEAL WITH THE PRESENT AND NOT THE PAST (HISTORY) YET THIS PERSON WILL CONTINUE TO OVERLOOK THEM.

THIS PERSON IS CONFINED TO A BOX (IN MY OPINION) AND NEEDS TO EXPERIENCE LIFE AND CULTURE.

THE INDIVIDUAL IN QUESTION HAS YET TO PRESENT ANYTHING RELEVENT TO THIS TOPIC. YET I HAVE PRESENTED SEVERAL ISSUES THAT *MANY* HAVE DISCUSSED. EXAMPLES ARE

BLACK WALL STREET

THE WILLIE LYNCH SPEECH (LOCA THAT WAS LOVELY)

BLACK ECONOMICS

BLACK CULTURE

PAY ATTENTION AND NOTE THAT A CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL HAS SAID *NOTHING* RELEVENT TO THESE OR *ANY* ISSUES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE DETREMENTAL TO AFRICAN AMERICANS.

IF HE HAS PLEASE CUT AND PASTE THEM SO I CAN SEE THEM.

THIS PERSON IS TRYING TO FORCE OTHERS INTO BELIEVING LIKE HIM. HIS THOUGHT PATTERN IS VERY IRRATIONAL AND ITS SAFE TO SAY THAT HE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT "AFRICAN AMERICANS".

HE IS *NOT* A GURU WHEN IT COMES TO AFRICAN AMERICANS.

HE IS AN IDIOT....

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:cheeky:

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[GUILLOTINE]

This thread is a perfect example of my "Do for SELF" mentality. Caucasians enjoy thier status in the world and will not change. Black men need to stand up and build a black family and let these devils deal with themselves.

 

[Tenkamenin]

Tenkamenin: I can see that you are highly educated on alot of what you talk about, but you use it improperly in cases such as this. You guys seem to be under the impression that I think history means nothing, and because you have made yourselves believe that, it seems to be all you can argue. Im not telling you guys history means nothing, im just saying, spare me the lesson because I already know the history. If we have a math arguement, what purpose is it for me to tell you single digit addition problems, you already know them. If you want to make a change, then you need to accept and understand the opinions of others weather you agree with them or not. Think about what your trying to do, then think about what has already been done and to what effect.

LOL!! @ This response....

I've thought about what I'm going to do, and I know whats all ready been done and thats VERY LITTLE.

 

[Tenkamenin]

PAY ATTENTION TO HOW THIS GUY HAS *YET* TO ELABORATE ON A SPECIFIC PROBLEM IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY. PAY ATTENTION TO HOW HE HAS YET TO PRESENT A SOLUTION THAT CAN BE APPLIED TO THE PROBLEM.

THIS PERSON HAS SAID THAT *HE* IS TRYING TO EDUCATE YET HE HAS PRESENTED *NOTHING* TO VALIDATE HIS CLAIM OR ENLIGHTEN *ANYONE*. THIS PERSON CANT EVEN LIST STATISTICS OR ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT ARE RELEVENT TO THE BLACK STRUGGLE. SUCH AS BLACK WALL STREET,BLACK ECONOMICS,BLACKS IN PRISON OR TEEN PREGNANCY RATE.

THIS PERSON DOES NOT REALIZE THAT "WE" ARE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HIM AND OTHERS WHO HOLD VIEWS SIMILAR TO HIS. YET THIS PERSON CONTINUES TO NOT LOOK AT IT FROM "OUR" VIEW AND CONTINUES TO TURN THE OPRESSED INTO THE OPPRESSOR.

IF THIS PERSON WOULD PRESENT LOGICAL DATA, ANY STATISTICS OR A SOLUTION TO CERTAIN PROBLEMS PEOPLE WOULD LISTEN. HOWEVER THIS PERSON IS INCAPABLE OF PROVING *ANYONE* 100% WRONG BECAUSE HE CANT EVEN ANSWER "BASIC" QUESTIONS POSED TO HIM.

THIS PERSON DOES *NOT* KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN BLACK LEADERS MEET WHITE LEADERS. HE HAS A PREDETERMINED MINDSET. ITS *IMPOSSIBLE* TO KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN AND IF THEY MEET BECAUSE WE DONT KNOW "WHO" WILL BE MEETING OR "WHAT" AGENDAS WILL BE DISCUSSED. THIS PERSON HAS OVERLOOKED THE FACT THAT TENK AND MYSELF HAVE STATED THAT WE ARE WILLING TO LEARN,TRADE IDEAS,NETWORK ETC ETC ETC.

I WILL ASK THIS PERSON *ANYTHING* I WANT AND ITS *NOTHING* HE CAN DO ABOUT IT. HOWEVER I *WILL* RESPECT HIS WISHES AND WILL NO LONGER ASK HIM QUESTIONS. SPECIFICALLY THOSE PERTAINING TO:

BLACK ECONIMICS (HE NEVER ANSWERED)

BLACK STATISTICS (IN REGARDS TO AIDS,PRISON,SCHOOLING ETC ETC ETC...WHICH HE NEVER ANSWERED)

PROBLEMS IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEMS (NO ANSWER HERE).

ITS NOT LIKE HE COULD ANSWER THEM ANYWAY.

WE (TENK,LOCA AND MYSELF) HAVE BROUGHT UP MANY POINTS THAT DEAL WITH THE PRESENT AND NOT THE PAST (HISTORY) YET THIS PERSON WILL CONTINUE TO OVERLOOK THEM.

THIS PERSON IS CONFINED TO A BOX (IN MY OPINION) AND NEEDS TO EXPERIENCE LIFE AND CULTURE.

THE INDIVIDUAL IN QUESTION HAS YET TO PRESENT ANYTHING RELEVENT TO THIS TOPIC. YET I HAVE PRESENTED SEVERAL ISSUES THAT *MANY* HAVE DISCUSSED. EXAMPLES ARE

BLACK WALL STREET

THE WILLIE LYNCH SPEECH (LOCA THAT WAS LOVELY)

BLACK ECONOMICS

BLACK CULTURE

PAY ATTENTION AND NOTE THAT A CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL HAS SAID *NOTHING* RELEVENT TO THESE OR *ANY* ISSUES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE DETREMENTAL TO AFRICAN AMERICANS.

IF HE HAS PLEASE CUT AND PASTE THEM SO I CAN SEE THEM.

THIS PERSON IS TRYING TO FORCE OTHERS INTO BELIEVING LIKE HIM. HIS THOUGHT PATTERN IS VERY IRRATIONAL AND ITS SAFE TO SAY THAT HE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT "AFRICAN AMERICANS".

HE IS *NOT* A GURU WHEN IT COMES TO AFRICAN AMERICANS.

HE IS AN IDIOT....

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:cheeky:

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[Locahontas]

YOUUUUUUR WELCOME!!! =)

 

[Locahontas]

Of course there are successful black people in America (myself being one of them...lol). And yes, they did take the initiative to be successful. But what you don't know from looking at someone is where they came from, what kind of atmosphere they grew up in, what their parents are/were like, etc, etc. And we also don't know what exactly they had to face to get to where they are in the present time.

 

[EDJ]

QUOTED BY NITRO, THE PREJUDICE gROCERY STORE WORKER THAT JUST PROVED IT BY THIS STATEMENT:

"I work at a grocery store, and I see hundreds of people every day coming in and im able to get a pretty acurate idea of how they live by the way they dress and form of payment they use as well as their actions and words."

HOW THE FUK YOU KNOW WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE LIKE? WHO gAVE YOU THE AUTHORITY TO TRY AND JUDgE OTHAS? YOU DON'T KNOW.

 

[HERESY]

"HOW TO MAKE BLACK AMERICA BETTER" Compiled and Edited by TAVIS SMILEY

IM GONNA START READING THIS BOOK NEXT FRIDAY (I HAVE TO WAIT TILL BY IN LAW FINISHES).

I SKIMMED OVER IT......PLEASE GO TO YOUR LIBRARY OR BOOK STORE AND READ THIS BOOK. CHAPTER 9 IS **VERY** INTERESTING.


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PS GURU IM SUGGESTING THE BOOK TO YOU ALSO MAN. YOU SHOULD PICK IT UP.

 

[Ethereal]

QUOTED BY NITRO, THE PREJUDICE gROCERY STORE WORKER THAT JUST PROVED IT BY THIS STATEMENT:

"I work at a grocery store, and I see hundreds of people every day coming in and im able to get a pretty acurate idea of how they live by the way they dress and form of payment they use as well as their actions and words."

HOW THE FUK YOU KNOW WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE LIKE? WHO gAVE YOU THE AUTHORITY TO TRY AND JUDgE OTHAS? YOU DON'T KNOW.

I never said I knew what the people are like. I said I can get a pretty accurate idea on how they live by the above reasons. If an Mexican, mother of 4 comes in with 5 books of food stamps, can't speak english, wearing dirty clothes and pushing a grocery cart back to her home because she doesn't have a car, I can get a pretty accurate idea on how she lives. If a black man comes in wearing a suit with a gold watch driving a beemer wearing a smile everywhere he goes, I can get a pretty accurated idea on how he lives. Never did I say I knew what the person was like, nor did I say I knew exactly how they lived. Lets say I did state what you accuse me of, although I have just caught you in a lie. If a man comes into my store, cussing at me, telling me I fail doing my job, that "I don't need you", cussing at other customers, I don't have the authority to make a judgement to myself that the guy is an asshole? You sir, are by far the most ignorant person to grace this thread. Now explain again, how by that comment, I am a racist man..

 

[Mcleanhatch]

QUOTED BY NITRO, THE PREJUDICE gROCERY STORE WORKER THAT JUST PROVED IT BY THIS STATEMENT:

"I work at a grocery store, and I see hundreds of people every day coming in and im able to get a pretty acurate idea of how they live by the way they dress and form of payment they use as well as their actions and words."

HOW THE FUK YOU KNOW WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE LIKE?

i can see how a grocery store worker can come to those conclusions. of course he wont be 100% accurate but non-the-less he/she can be pretty damn accurate a majority of the time.

WHO gAVE YOU THE AUTHORITY TO TRY AND JUDgE OTHAS? YOU DON'T KNOW.

everybody judges others all the time. and cant no1 say the opposite.

if i see two women walking down the street, you best believe i am going to look at and/or talk to the best looking one in my JUDGEMENT and ignore the other one right??? isnt that judging??? it goes on for all situations.

if you hire some1 to work for you are you going to blindly hire them at random or are you going to look at their credentials and hire the one you JUDGE to be the best qualified???

 

[already dead.]

Of course there are successful black people in America (myself being one of them...lol). And yes, they did take the initiative to be successful. But what you don't know from looking at someone is where they came from, what kind of atmosphere they grew up in, what their parents are/were like, etc, etc. And we also don't know what exactly they had to face to get to where they are in the present time.

Loca, you think bein mixed or a 'lighter black person' has an effect on people's success? I've heard both sides of that argument from black people and other races too, that lighter-skinned black people get better treatment and some cases black people look at lighter skin as an attractive characteristic, not just because it's a personal preference, but because it is part of a subconcious instilled mindset that whiter is better. Your thoughts on this?

 

[nefar559]

PAY ATTENTION TO HOW THIS GUY HAS *YET* TO ELABORATE ON A SPECIFIC PROBLEM IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY. PAY ATTENTION TO HOW HE HAS YET TO PRESENT A SOLUTION THAT CAN BE APPLIED TO THE PROBLEM.

THIS PERSON HAS SAID THAT *HE* IS TRYING TO EDUCATE YET HE HAS PRESENTED *NOTHING* TO VALIDATE HIS CLAIM OR ENLIGHTEN *ANYONE*. THIS PERSON CANT EVEN LIST STATISTICS OR ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT ARE RELEVENT TO THE BLACK STRUGGLE. SUCH AS BLACK WALL STREET,BLACK ECONOMICS,BLACKS IN PRISON OR TEEN PREGNANCY RATE.

THIS PERSON DOES NOT REALIZE THAT "WE" ARE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HIM AND OTHERS WHO HOLD VIEWS SIMILAR TO HIS. YET THIS PERSON CONTINUES TO NOT LOOK AT IT FROM "OUR" VIEW AND CONTINUES TO TURN THE OPRESSED INTO THE OPPRESSOR.

IF THIS PERSON WOULD PRESENT LOGICAL DATA, ANY STATISTICS OR A SOLUTION TO CERTAIN PROBLEMS PEOPLE WOULD LISTEN. HOWEVER THIS PERSON IS INCAPABLE OF PROVING *ANYONE* 100% WRONG BECAUSE HE CANT EVEN ANSWER "BASIC" QUESTIONS POSED TO HIM.

THIS PERSON DOES *NOT* KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN BLACK LEADERS MEET WHITE LEADERS. HE HAS A PREDETERMINED MINDSET. ITS *IMPOSSIBLE* TO KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN AND IF THEY MEET BECAUSE WE DONT KNOW "WHO" WILL BE MEETING OR "WHAT" AGENDAS WILL BE DISCUSSED. THIS PERSON HAS OVERLOOKED THE FACT THAT TENK AND MYSELF HAVE STATED THAT WE ARE WILLING TO LEARN,TRADE IDEAS,NETWORK ETC ETC ETC.

I WILL ASK THIS PERSON *ANYTHING* I WANT AND ITS *NOTHING* HE CAN DO ABOUT IT. HOWEVER I *WILL* RESPECT HIS WISHES AND WILL NO LONGER ASK HIM QUESTIONS. SPECIFICALLY THOSE PERTAINING TO:

BLACK ECONIMICS (HE NEVER ANSWERED)

BLACK STATISTICS (IN REGARDS TO AIDS,PRISON,SCHOOLING ETC ETC ETC...WHICH HE NEVER ANSWERED)

PROBLEMS IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEMS (NO ANSWER HERE).

ITS NOT LIKE HE COULD ANSWER THEM ANYWAY.

WE (TENK,LOCA AND MYSELF) HAVE BROUGHT UP MANY POINTS THAT DEAL WITH THE PRESENT AND NOT THE PAST (HISTORY) YET THIS PERSON WILL CONTINUE TO OVERLOOK THEM.

THIS PERSON IS CONFINED TO A BOX (IN MY OPINION) AND NEEDS TO EXPERIENCE LIFE AND CULTURE.

THE INDIVIDUAL IN QUESTION HAS YET TO PRESENT ANYTHING RELEVENT TO THIS TOPIC. YET I HAVE PRESENTED SEVERAL ISSUES THAT *MANY* HAVE DISCUSSED. EXAMPLES ARE

BLACK WALL STREET

THE WILLIE LYNCH SPEECH (LOCA THAT WAS LOVELY)

BLACK ECONOMICS

BLACK CULTURE

PAY ATTENTION AND NOTE THAT A CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL HAS SAID *NOTHING* RELEVENT TO THESE OR *ANY* ISSUES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE DETREMENTAL TO AFRICAN AMERICANS.

IF HE HAS PLEASE CUT AND PASTE THEM SO I CAN SEE THEM.

THIS PERSON IS TRYING TO FORCE OTHERS INTO BELIEVING LIKE HIM. HIS THOUGHT PATTERN IS VERY IRRATIONAL AND ITS SAFE TO SAY THAT HE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT "AFRICAN AMERICANS".

HE IS *NOT* A GURU WHEN IT COMES TO AFRICAN AMERICANS.

HE IS AN IDIOT....

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:cheeky:

:h:

 

[EDJ]

MCLEANHATCH,
EVEN THOUgH YOU LOST YOUR RIgHT TO ADDRESS ME(CAUSE YOU WOULD KILL YOUR OWN FAMILY IF IT CAME DOWN TO IT, THAT'S FUCCED UP), I'LL MAKE THIS EXCEPTION.
ALL WHAT YOU STRESSED IS FINE AND DANDY CAUSE IN SOME KIND OF FORM OR FASHION, WE HAVE TO BE PERCEPTIVE. THE THANg WITH NITRO IS THAT HE HAS NO BUSINESS TRYIN' TO JUDgE OTHAS WHILE HE'S WORKIN'. NOBODY gAVE HIM THAT "AUTHORITY". HE SHOULD JUST DO HIS JOB INSTEAD OF TRYIN' TO FIgURE MUTHA-FUKAS OUT, WHICH IS IRRELEVANT TO HIS JOB.

NITRO THE gUROCERY WORKER,

YOU STRESSED, "I never said I knew what the people are like. I said I can get a pretty accurate idea on how they live by the above reasons"

YOU ARE BEIN' ASSUMPTIVE AND TRYIN' TO FIgURE OUT HOW THESE PEOPLE LIVE LIKE IT'S SOME KIND OF TWISTED HOBBY OF YOURS. JUST TYPICAL OF YOU OF TRYIN' TO PUT LABELS ON PEOPLE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "If an Mexican, mother of 4 comes in with 5 books of food stamps, can't speak english, wearing dirty clothes and pushing a grocery cart back to her home because she doesn't have a car, I can get a pretty accurate idea on how she lives"

HOW DOES SHE LIVE? HOW DO YOU KNOW?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "If a black man comes in wearing a suit with a gold watch driving a beemer wearing a smile everywhere he goes, I can get a pretty accurated idea on how he lives."

HOW DOES HE LIVE? HOW DO YOU KNOW?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Never did I say I knew what the person was like, nor did I say I knew exactly how they lived."

BUT YOU ASSUMED AND KEEP ASSUMIN'. CHEK OUT THESE WORDS YOU STRESSED, " I can get a pretty accurated idea on how he lives." YOU USED OR TRIED TO USE THE WORD "ACCURATE". WHAT DOES ACCURATE IMPLY?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "If a man comes into my store, cussing at me, telling me I fail doing my job, that "I don't need you", cussing at other customers, I don't have the authority to make a judgement to myself that the guy is an asshole?"

IT CAN BE, OR IT CAN BE THAT HE IS A PASSIVE PERSON WHO BLEW A FUSE OR SOMETHIN' TRAUMATIC OCCURED TO HIM. REgARDLESS, WHEN IT COMES TO DOIN' YOUR JOB IT DON'T MATTER. IF CUZZ IS LIKE THAT AND IT INTERFERES WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT YOU WORK FOR, THEN SEE HIS ASS OUT AND DO YOUR JOB.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "You sir, are by far the most ignorant person to grace this thread. Now explain again, how by that comment, I am a racist man..

AND YOU PUNK, ARE ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I SMASH ON FOO'S LIKE YOU.

AND YOU RACIST CAUSE YOU CLASSIFY PEOPLE, LABELIN' THEM, AND ASSUMIN' HOW THEY LIVIN'.

 

[Ethereal]

PAY ATTENTION TO HOW THIS GUY HAS *YET* TO ELABORATE ON A SPECIFIC PROBLEM IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY. PAY ATTENTION TO HOW HE HAS YET TO PRESENT A SOLUTION THAT CAN BE APPLIED TO THE PROBLEM.

Everyone pay attention, these are some breif problems and solutions that I mentioned in my very first post on this thread before having every word thereafter argued by HERSEY, at which point I felt there was no choice but to argue back, rather then talk about the topic at hand.

1. "one thing keeping racism alive as strongly as it exists today is people like you guys on this board who think that “black” people are still slaves"

This is concerning those that think every incident in life is racialy motivated. For example, a student having a teacher tell her that her paper is not original, she assumes it is because she is black. When something like this occurs over and over hate begins to develope and problems start to exist.

2. "What if I rose up and wanted to help out only the “white” race in America, would I be looked at by the African American community as a person trying to better the race of struggling “whites”, or a KKK affiliate trying to make “white” people superior?"

This has to do with the fact that a black man can do something strictly for black people and it be OK, if a white man did the same he would be frowned upon. That however is hardley the problem. I have also stated in my posts that I feel that black people are trying to resegregate themselves, they are doing so by what I just mentioned, now that is the problem.

3. "A “white” person cannot have any say so in helping “black” people without telling them exactly what they want to hear, yet we have African Americans all over the U.S. asking us why they have it so bad, why can't we do anything about it."

This has to do with people like HERSEY. He claims that he is trying to understand me, but he has argued every.. single.. post.. to this date in this thread. If he is trying to understand why is he arguing and asking question to prove himself right as opposed to asking me questions about my beliefs and showing he is trying to understand. Skin color might not be a HUGE factor, but I believe if I was African American I would be heard, and more people would be willing to listen, and most of all, I would not have another man posing 50 questions as to the numbers to problems no one is discussing.

Now here is a list of some solutions that I posed in reply to Tenkamenin's post, also in my very first reply on this thread.

1. "Why not work on the “black” and “white” community together rather then focusing on one race, your race. Why don't you stop teaching these young "black" kids of a racist “white” world, and bring them together with “white” kids, teach them that they are the same and in doing so teach them the history of the world, weather that be what the Germans did to the Jews, or what the "white" people living in the U.S. at that time did to Africans by enslaving them; teaching them that "white" people enslaved them for hundreds of years is going to include many "white" nationalities that had absolutely nothing to do with it. Don't target "white" people, be specific, if you know so much about slavery, you shouldn’t have a problem with that."

2. "You need to have “black”, “white”, and Mexican political activists come together and work on the community as a whole"

Now everyone pay attention as this man will attempt to break down all of this, argue it for no apparent reason, and not acknowledge that he was wrong in making a statement that I presented *NO* problems whatsoever, and had absolutely *NO* solutions. I elaborated on them enough when I made them, I took it a little further this time so everyone can understand, even the impaired. I started out doing what he falsly accuses me of not doing, but I had to change the way I spoke because he was arguing EVERYTHING I said, and I was at a dead end with him. This was all in one single post, they first one I made.

THIS PERSON CANT EVEN LIST STATISTICS OR ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT ARE RELEVENT TO THE BLACK STRUGGLE. SUCH AS BLACK WALL STREET,BLACK ECONOMICS,BLACKS IN PRISON OR TEEN PREGNANCY RATE.

This man is right, there are many things about the African American community that I do not know about, and there are numerous questions that I cannot answer. The thing is, I never claimed to know any of it nor did I claim I had the answer to every problem and question. He is trying to attack me with these irrelevant questions, TRYING to pose them so I wouldn't know the answer, all so he can tell you in a post such as this. The statistics he knows, they show problems exist, I know of these problems, I simply don't know the exact number. So what have we?

THIS PERSON DOES NOT REALIZE THAT "WE" ARE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HIM AND OTHERS WHO HOLD VIEWS SIMILAR TO HIS. YET THIS PERSON CONTINUES TO NOT LOOK AT IT FROM "OUR" VIEW AND CONTINUES TO TURN THE OPRESSED INTO THE OPPRESSOR.

Wrong. You are not trying to see it from my point of view, and if you were, why are you arguing my every sentence and posing questions to prove yourself right?

IF THIS PERSON WOULD PRESENT LOGICAL DATA, ANY STATISTICS OR A SOLUTION TO CERTAIN PROBLEMS PEOPLE WOULD LISTEN. HOWEVER THIS PERSON IS INCAPABLE OF PROVING *ANYONE* 100% WRONG BECAUSE HE CANT EVEN ANSWER "BASIC" QUESTIONS POSED TO HIM.

I don't need to answer any basic questions posed to me to prove any person wrong. Why did you ask me these questions.. to test my knowledge on the statistics of the black community? I don't need numbers in order to see a problem, I need my eyes and ears. You have yet to provide answers to any of your own questions, so you are obviously not trying to help me understand your point of view. I know that there are more black people with AIDS then whites, I know there are more white owned companies and television networks then black, I know what you are asking in all of your questions, but just because I can't give you exact numbers your going to sit there and tell me im in no position to make any of my statements and that I don't understand? You are wrong here, regardless your admittance.

I WILL ASK THIS PERSON *ANYTHING* I WANT AND ITS *NOTHING* HE CAN DO ABOUT IT. HOWEVER I *WILL* RESPECT HIS WISHES AND WILL NO LONGER ASK HIM QUESTIONS. SPECIFICALLY THOSE PERTAINING TO:

BLACK ECONIMICS (HE NEVER ANSWERED)

BLACK STATISTICS (IN REGARDS TO AIDS,PRISON,SCHOOLING ETC ETC ETC...WHICH HE NEVER ANSWERED)

PROBLEMS IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEMS (NO ANSWER HERE).

ITS NOT LIKE HE COULD ANSWER THEM ANYWAY.

He poses questions such as these, because he feels that because he read the answers in a book, that he knows something that not eveyone might, and somehow it make him superior to those he argues. When he is left riddled in confusion he results to asking these questions in order to dig himself out of a hole. "The statistics he knows, they show problems exist, I know of these problems, I simply don't know the exact number." Does this really make me unintelligent? Does this mean I am in no position to comment on any African American problems? You are wrong Tom.

When I see an African American kid, poor and hungry sitting in a rough ass neighborhood, someone who needs help, why the fuck do I need to know the exact number of people like this, I know there are to many, that is all that really matters. In order to help the problem that there are a big number of black people with aids, why is it important to know the ratio to white people? Tell me why I need to know the ratio of Black owned television stations to white, in order to help the poverty situation? You know what, fuck numbers, I know there are problems in this world and I don't need you to test me on this shit. You are a selfish man, and I feel you care more about yourself then helping anybody in this world. You just want to be heard, you want a podium and a MIC so you can get your biased opinion out.

PAY ATTENTION AND NOTE THAT A CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL HAS SAID *NOTHING* RELEVENT TO THESE OR *ANY* ISSUES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE DETREMENTAL TO AFRICAN AMERICANS.

Pay attention and Note that everything this guy has said in this post, and almost everything he has said in this thread, has absulutely nothing to do with the topic. He changed the topic from "who should be responsible for fixing black problems" to "who knows more about the statistics of black problems".

Game Over

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Good Day Tom.

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[Ethereal]

YOU ARE BEIN' ASSUMPTIVE AND TRYIN' TO FIgURE OUT HOW THESE PEOPLE LIVE LIKE IT'S SOME KIND OF TWISTED HOBBY OF YOURS. JUST TYPICAL OF YOU OF TRYIN' TO PUT LABELS ON PEOPLE.

No I don't TRY and figure these things out, I just stated that I could, by the way they present themselves. I don't remember ever specifically trying to figure out how anyone lives, that comes through my register. My store doesn't even profit, we lose money every year, we only stay open to keep the name out there, so people won't shop elsewhere. More then 1/3 of our income is from WIC and Food Stamps, our number 1 selling item is a Government funded formula for infants, im sorry if I can't help but notice the environment im in. I suppose I would be wrong in judging that the guy who drug the security guard into the store at gun point and robbed us (3 times) was poor and needed money?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "If an Mexican, mother of 4 comes in with 5 books of food stamps, can't speak english, wearing dirty clothes and pushing a grocery cart back to her home because she doesn't have a car, I can get a pretty accurate idea on how she lives"

HOW DOES SHE LIVE? HOW DO YOU KNOW?

She lives poorly. I know this because she has to pay with government funds, she can't afford newer clothes, she doesnt have a car to drive.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "If a black man comes in wearing a suit with a gold watch driving a beemer wearing a smile everywhere he goes, I can get a pretty accurated idea on how he lives."

HOW DOES HE LIVE? HOW DO YOU KNOW?

He is more wealthy and living a somewhat happy life. I can tell he is wealthy because of the suit and watch he is wearing, and the nice car he is driving, I can tell he is somewhat of a happy man by the way he jokes around with other employees and customers at the store.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Never did I say I knew what the person was like, nor did I say I knew exactly how they lived."

BUT YOU ASSUMED AND KEEP ASSUMIN'. CHEK OUT THESE WORDS YOU STRESSED, " I can get a pretty accurated idea on how he lives." YOU USED OR TRIED TO USE THE WORD "ACCURATE". WHAT DOES ACCURATE IMPLY?

The wording is vital right now. I never said I can accurately tell you how they live, I said I can get a pretty (meaning close to) accurate (meaning correctly) idea (meaning a thought of) on how these people live. You can try all you want but your not going to get very far with this point.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "If a man comes into my store, cussing at me, telling me I fail doing my job, that "I don't need you", cussing at other customers, I don't have the authority to make a judgement to myself that the guy is an asshole?"

IT CAN BE, OR IT CAN BE THAT HE IS A PASSIVE PERSON WHO BLEW A FUSE OR SOMETHIN' TRAUMATIC OCCURED TO HIM. REgARDLESS, WHEN IT COMES TO DOIN' YOUR JOB IT DON'T MATTER. IF CUZZ IS LIKE THAT AND IT INTERFERES WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT YOU WORK FOR, THEN SEE HIS ASS OUT AND DO YOUR JOB.

So because I think a man cussing me and my customers out is an asshole I am a racist? Bahahahaha.

AND YOU RACIST CAUSE YOU CLASSIFY PEOPLE, LABELIN' THEM, AND ASSUMIN' HOW THEY LIVIN'.

Now, for everyone to read. You just called me a racist. Now justify your comments on calling me a that, all while mainting the worth of your every comment on here about me judging people, and in doing so, being labed a racist.

 

[Tenkamenin]

Everyone pay attention, these are some breif problems and solutions that I mentioned in my very first post on this thread before having every word thereafter argued by HERSEY, at which point I felt there was no choice but to argue back, rather then talk about the topic at hand.

1. "one thing keeping racism alive as strongly as it exists today is people like you guys on this board who think that “black” people are still slaves

The only problem is that your solutions aren't well thought out....

1) Your solution does not help blacks dealing with self hatred.

2) Your solution does not help black people learn about the importance of economics within the community.

That little blurb you just posed right there is DENIAL, that my friend is not what I call a solution. Sweeping racism under the rug and blaming people who speak out against racism is one of the stupidest things posted in this thread. It tells me that you don't know what your talking about.

2. "What if I rose up and wanted to help out only the “white” race in America, would I be looked at by the African American community as a person trying to better the race of struggling “whites”, or a KKK affiliate trying to make “white” people superior?"

I can't believe you seriously tried to make this comparison. Let me put it to you like this, if whites were stolen from there homeland, raped, enslaved, tortured, mentally abused, and culturally stripped YES I WOULD AGREE with a white person that is working on fixing his communities problems. Your example is not on an even plateau...

. "A “white” person cannot have any say so in helping “black” people without telling them exactly what they want to hear, yet we have African Americans all over the U.S. asking us why they have it so bad, why can't we do anything
about it."

Now here is a list of some solutions that I posed in reply to Tenkamenin's post, also in my very first reply on this thread.
1. "Why not work on the “black” and “white” community together rather then focusing on one race, your race. Why don't you stop teaching these young "black" kids of a racist “white” world, and bring them together with “white” kids, teach them that they are the same and in doing so teach them the history of the world, weather that be what the Germans did to the Jews, or what the "white" people living in the U.S. at that time did to Africans by enslaving them; teaching them that "white" people enslaved them for hundreds of years is going to include many "white" nationalities that had absolutely nothing to do with it. Don't target "white" people, be specific, if you know so much about slavery, you shouldn’t have a problem with that."

I'm down to work with any white person thats willing to help fix the black problems in the community. The only problem is that I haven't found too many that even understand whats going on.

Secondly no teacher is going to be stupid enough to say "all whites were racist, all whites held slaves" these are teachers that will cleverly put together there material. Not in the school I was talking about...

I still get a kick at you tryin to blame US for keeping racism alive for speaking out on our racist past. If your trying to blame us for speaking against something that is a problem in the community than how do we work with you? It is not possible...The affects of our history is the reason why blacks are in a shit hole today. You don't understand that, so you wouldn't make a good partner.

He poses questions such as these, because he feels that because he read the answers in a book, that he knows something that not eveyone might, and somehow it make him superior to those he argues. When he is left riddled in confusion he results to asking these questions in order to dig himself out of a hole. "The statistics he knows, they show problems exist, I know of these problems, I simply don't know the exact number." Does this really make me unintelligent? Does this mean I am in no position to comment on any African American problems? You are wrong Tom.

He poses questions like this because there RELEVANT to black problems in the community. If you don't understand the stuff we've discussesd in this thread like Black Economics, Schools, AIDS, self hatred, than you really don't understand a lot of black problems.

 

[Ethereal]

1) Your solution does not help blacks dealing with self hatred.
2) Your solution does not help black people learn about the importance of economics within the community.

I wasn't trying to provide the answer to every problem with a single comment. Your just trying to make it out like I did, you have something else to argue.

That little blurb you just posed right there is DENIAL, that my friend is not what I call a solution. Sweeping racism under the rug and blaming people who speak out against racism is one of the stupidest things posted in this thread. It tells me that you don't know what your talking about.

First of all, that was not supposed to be a solution, it is a problem that I see. No one is trying to sweep racism under the rug or blame anyone trying to speak out against racism, now your making shit up. Im talking about people who take every bad incident in their life and make it a race issue, now stop puting words in my mouth just to form another arguement. This is what I mean, you don't listen you just keep on arguing me, it shows me you don't care to know what im talking about.

I can't believe you seriously tried to make this comparison. Let me put it to you like this, if whites were stolen from there homeland, raped, enslaved, tortured, mentally abused, and culturally stripped YES I WOULD AGREE with a white person that is working on fixing his communities problems. Your example is not on an even plateau...

That doesn't change the fact that their are thousands of poor white people out there in need of help, and I would be deemed a racist if I tried to help only them. I want to point something out. I made a point of saying "That is hardley the problem" because I knew cats like you would take only a peice of what I typed and run with it. I then tried to emphasize what I thought was the problem, and you completely disregarded it. Just another example of what im talking about, here, another chance..

"That however is hardley the problem. I have also stated in my posts that I feel that black people are trying to resegregate themselves, they are doing so by what I just mentioned, now that is the problem."

I still get a kick at you tryin to blame US for keeping racism alive for speaking out on our racist past. If your trying to blame us for speaking against something that is a problem in the community than how do we work with you?

Im not necesarily blaming "black" people for keeping the racism alive, literally speaking. I am telling you, that much of the racism that you believe to be in existance, is simply not reality. Much like the statement I made before. Example: Im going to use Locahontas again. When she said the teacher gave her back her paper, she told us that she felt it was because she was black. Now I don't know her teacher, for all I do know he could be the fucking grand wizard, but this is just a miniscule example of how racism is thrown into every possible event, when it simply is not there. In that sense, by placing racism on every bad part of your life, you are keeping the idea of a racist world alive in your own mind. Now keep in mind, I know there is alot of racism out there, but to put it bluntly, it's not nearly as bad as you think. I am willing to accept that black people receive more racism then whites, by a huge margin, that is a problem that can never be fixed. These racist white supremecists are going to raise their kids to hate black people. If you walk in my grocery store, and your a black man, and one of our employee's is watching your ass, it's not because your black, it's because you look like a mutha fuckah that will steal something, it doesnt matter what fucking color you are.

The affects of our history is the reason why blacks are in a shit hole today. You don't understand that, so you wouldn't make a good partner.

I do understand, your just can't accept that I do. I know that at the begining, black people were takin from Africa, against their own will, taken to be victim of what we now execute people for doing in this country. Throughout hundreds of years this created a chain of events that lead a high percentage of African's to coincidentally end up in a wrecked part of the country, where that have few options, they have little opportunity. (Im not saying that is all there is to it, a book would just be a beginning) I can go on for an eternity, I know all of this, but I strongly believe, that you can take any given black man, in any part of this country, weather that be Compton or Beverly Hills, and with will & desire, he can make something for himself. If he believes that he can, then he will.

Im getting the sense that you guys are leaning more towards a "clean the streets" angle, and while I think that would be the most effective way, it is just so fucking hard to do with the resources available.

If you don't understand the stuff we've discussesd in this thread like Black Economics, Schools, AIDS, self hatred, than you really don't understand a lot of black problems.

"The statistics he knows, they show problems exist, I know of these problems, I simply don't know the exact number."

I do understand them, you just don't want to believe it. You just cannot comprehend that I do know these things, I understand them completely, but because I cant give an exact number or product name, I know nothing about it?

 

[MOESES SOULRIGHT THE 2nd]

"white" "black"
lmao

 

[Ethereal]

Whats so funny, that people use those words without knowing what they mean, and I place them with quotes because I don't like to use them when discussing race?

 

[HERESY]

Everyone pay attention, these are some breif problems and solutions that I mentioned in my very first post on this thread before having every word thereafter argued by HERSEY, at which point I felt there was no choice but to argue back, rather then talk about the topic at hand.

these are NOT problems rather they are OPINIONS. what you are listing is what YOU believe the problem is. however you have said NOTHING relevent about BLACK ECONOMICS,PHYSICAL OR MENTAL SLAVERY.

1. "one thing keeping racism alive as strongly as it exists today is people like you guys on this board who think that “black” people are still slaves"

BLACK PEOPLE ARE *STILL* SLAVES. ECONOMICALLY,MENTALLY,SPIRITUALLY AND IN SOME CASES PHYSICALLY. LETS TALK ECONOMIC SLAVERY AND BLACK WALL STREET. INSTEAD OF "BRIEF PROBLEMS" LETS GET DOWN TO THE CORE. *YOU* ARE NOT CAPABLE OF DOING THAT.

This is concerning those that think every incident in life is racialy motivated. For example, a student having a teacher tell her that her paper is not original, she assumes it is because she is black. When something like this occurs over and over hate begins to develope and problems start to exist.

THIS HAS TO BE THE DUMBEST ANALOGY I HAVE *EVER* READ ON THE SICCNESS. "WHY" DOES THE CHILD FEEL THAT WAY? YOU KNOW WHAT FORGET IT.

2. "What if I rose up and wanted to help out only the “white” race in America, would I be looked at by the African American community as a person trying to better the race of struggling “whites”, or a KKK affiliate trying to make “white” people superior?"

SOME PEOPLE WOULD LOOK AT YOU LIKE THAT. HOWEVER I WOULDNT. YOU HAVE A *RIGHT* TO LOOK OUT FOR YOUR PEOPLE,HELP THEM AND PRESERVE YOUR CULTURE. WHAT WOULD BE *WRONG* IS IF YOU BURNED DOWN BLACK OWNED COMPANIES, DESTROYED BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS AND WAGED YOUR "CAMPAIGN" WITH FEAR AND VIOLENCE. HOWEVER I MUST AGREE WITH TENK AND HIS ANSWER. WHITE AMERICA IS ALREADY ON TOP DUE TO WHAT? BLACK PEOPLE ARE *STILL* ON THE BOTTOM DUE TO WHAT? WHITE PEOPLE WERE STOLEN FROM WHERE? WHEN?

BTW *ALL* OF THESE PROBLEMS YOU ARE PRESENTING ARE PURE SPECULATION AND BASED ON OPINION. THEY CANNOT BE SUBSTANIATED BY FACT. LETS TALK ABOUT *REAL* PROBLEMS IN TEH BLACK COMMUNITY. LIKE THE AIDS RATE AMONGST BLACK MEN AND WOMEN 14-30.

This has to do with the fact that a black man can do something strictly for black people and it be OK, if a white man did the same he would be frowned upon. That however is hardley the problem. I have also stated in my posts that I feel that black people are trying to resegregate themselves, they are doing so by what I just mentioned, now that is the problem.

LETS TALK ABOUT HOW BLACKS TRIED TO OWN COMPANIES AND LAND BUT WERE FIREBOMBED AND KILLED (BLACK WALL STREET). WHAT YOU FAIL TO SEE IS THAT THE WHITE MAN HAS BEEN DOING IT FOR *YEARS*.

3. "A “white” person cannot have any say so in helping “black” people without telling them exactly what they want to hear, yet we have African Americans all over the U.S. asking us why they have it so bad, why can't we do anything about it."

THIS IS NOT TRUE. THE STATEMENT IS YOUR OPINION IT CANT BE VALIDATED WITH ANY STATISTICS.

This has to do with people like HERSEY. He claims that he is trying to understand me, but he has argued every.. single.. post.. to this date in this thread. If he is trying to understand why is he arguing and asking question to prove himself right as opposed to asking me questions about my beliefs and showing he is trying to understand.

IM NOT ASKING YOU QUESTIONS TO PROVE ME RIGHT. IM ASKING YOU QUESTIONS TO SEE IF YOU *UNDERSTAND* THE CONDITION OF TEH BLACK COMMUNITY. YOUR "PROBLEMS" ARENT PROBLEMS. THEY ARE *YOUR* BELIEFS.

Skin color might not be a HUGE factor, but I believe if I was African American I would be heard, and more people would be willing to listen, and most of all, I would not have another man posing 50 questions as to the numbers to problems no one is discussing.

TO SUM IT ALL UP YOUR THREE PROBLEMS DEAL WITH THE FOLLOWING:


1.BLACKS WHO FEEL/THINK EVERYTHING IS RACIALLY MOTIVATED.

2.BLACKS WOULD CONSIDER A WHITE PERSON A RACIST IF THAT PERSON TRIED TO HELP WHITES.

3.WHITES CANT HELP BLACKS BECAUSE BLACKS WILL ARGUE AND FIGHT (VERBALLY).

THE PROBLEMS THAT I ELABORATE ON (WHICH YOU REFUSE TO PARTAKE IN) HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE FOLLOWING:

1.BLACK AWARENESS, CULTURE AND HOW MANY BLACKS KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THEIR PAST,ORIGINAL LANGUAGE ETC ETC ETC

2.BLACK EDUCATION AND IT BEING A LOW PRIORITY IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY.

3.BLACK ON BLACK VIOLENCE AND THE PRISON SYSTEM (WHICH HAS A HIGH VOLUME OF BLACK MALES)

4.BLACK SEXUALITY AND HOW IT IS EXPLOITED FOR MONETARY GAIN. NOT TO MENTION AIDS IN THE AFRICAN AMERICA COMMUNITY AND HOW IT HAS DECIMATED AFRICA.

5.BLACK ECONOMICS,BUSINESS AND NETWORKING. A BRIEF EXAMPLE IS HOW MINORITIES MAKE UP 90% OF THE MUSIC INDUSTRY YET THEY DONT EVEN OWN 10% OF IT.

THESE ARE PROBLEMS IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY. WHAT *YOU* SEE AS PROBLEMS ARE YOUR *OPINIONS*.THESE TOPICS NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. THEY ARE DETREMENTAL TO THE BLACK COMMUNITIES EXISTANCE. THE BLACK COMMUNITY IS EFFECTED BY EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM.

1. "Why not work on the “black” and “white” community together rather then focusing on one race, your race.

FOCUS ON ALL RACES BUT YOU CANT HELP OTHERS IF YOU CANT HELP YOURSELF. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH HELPING ALL RACES. I SAID THAT (IN ONE OF MY FIRST POSTS). HOWEVER FOCUS *NEEDS* TO BE PLACED ON THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND ITS PROBLEMS. WANNA KNOW WHO NEEDS TO LOOK AT IT MORE CLEARLY? *BLACK PEOPLE*!!!!

Why don't you stop teaching these young "black" kids of a racist “white” world, and bring them together with “white” kids, teach them that they are the same and in doing so teach them the history of the world, weather that be what the Germans did to the Jews, or what the "white" people living in the U.S. at that time did to Africans by enslaving them; teaching them that "white" people enslaved them for hundreds of years is going to include many "white" nationalities that had absolutely nothing to do with it. Don't target "white" people, be specific, if you know so much about slavery, you shouldn’t have a problem with that."

NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING SPECIFIC. THIS IS WHY IM AGAINST REPERATION CHECKS. WHO ARE YOU GOING TO CHARGE? WHITE PEOPLE? CHINESE? ARAB TAX PAYERS WHO HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH SLAVERY? OR DO YOU CHARGE THE WHITE OWNED BUSINESS THAT MADE PROFITS FROM IT? I DONT THINK ANYONE HAS A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

Now everyone pay attention as this man will attempt to break down all of this, argue it for no apparent reason, and not acknowledge that he was wrong in making a statement that I presented *NO* problems whatsoever, and had absolutely *NO* solutions. I elaborated on them enough when I made them, I took it a little further this time so everyone can understand, even the impaired. I started out doing what he falsly accuses me of not doing, but I had to change the way I spoke because he was arguing EVERYTHING I said, and I was at a dead end with him. This was all in one single post, they first one I made.

COMPARE *YOUR* PROBLEMS TO *MY* PROBLEMS. WHAT YOU LISTED IS NOT BASED ON ANY FACTUAL FINDINGS OR DOCUMENTED REPORTS. THEY ARE YOUR OPINIONS AND *VIEWS* ABOUT THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND BLACK/WHITE RELATIONS. MY LIST DEALS WITH *SPECIFIC* PROBLEMS IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY. YOU HAVE *NOT* LISTED *ONE* PROBLEM IN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY.

YOU HAVE NOT ELABORATED ON THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE,BLACKS ON WELFARE,BLACKS IN PRISON,BLACK CRIME,BLACK EDUCATION,BLACK SEXUALITY AND EXPLOITATION ETC ETC ETC.

This man is right, there are many things about the African American community that I do not know about, and there are numerous questions that I cannot answer. The thing is, I never claimed to know any of it nor did I claim I had the answer to every problem and question. He is trying to attack me with these irrelevant questions, TRYING to pose them so I wouldn't know the answer, all so he can tell you in a post such as this. The statistics he knows, they show problems exist, I know of these problems, I simply don't know the exact number. So what have we?

TIME AFTER TIME I HAVE ASKED YOU TO ELABORATE ON CERTAIN PROBLEMS AND ISSUES. THROW THE STATISTICS OUT THE WINDOW. TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES. COMPARE MY PROBLEMS TO YOUR PROBLEMS.

Wrong. You are not trying to see it from my point of view, and if you were, why are you arguing my every sentence and posing questions to prove yourself right?

I AM SEEING IT FROM YOUR POINT OF VIEW. HOW IS IT THAT I CAN AGREE WITH YOU IN SOME CASES? IF I DIDNT SEE YOUR POINT OF VIEW I WOULD NOT BE IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU.