There is no GOD
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Ok I'll cut to the chase.
This planet has it's own life system.
Weather, rain, plant and animal life, etc.
Not to mention the other stuff such as gravity and orbit.
Anyways the point I was trying to make is that it is very apparent that there is a cycle here.
And not just something that accurred by random chance.
You get a sense of design when you look at the whole picture.
You pull one of these ingredients out and you fuck up the whole recipe, you know what I mean?
This planet has it's own life system.
Weather, rain, plant and animal life, etc.
Not to mention the other stuff such as gravity and orbit.
Anyways the point I was trying to make is that it is very apparent that there is a cycle here.
And not just something that accurred by random chance.
You get a sense of design when you look at the whole picture.
You pull one of these ingredients out and you fuck up the whole recipe, you know what I mean?
you say that everything is one big cycle, and that may not be true. there is chaos in the world. how can you sit there and think that everything in the universe, many universes, happens because of a devine creator? that means that he would be making me write this now. there would be no free will, it wouldn't be possible
I don't ever remember Vyasdeva ever discussing "zero"
anyhoo. You failed to show me what "zero is the absence of....." WHAT!? what is it the absence of?
abscence of money? abscence of words?
zero or the "abscence of" as it is called now, CANNOT exist independently. Abscence Of, always needs to be connected to another word, person, place or thing.
In order for something to exist it must have a name. It cannot be called labled in the "abscence of" realm. Think about it.
Name something without a name.
make sense boys and girls?
anyhoo. You failed to show me what "zero is the absence of....." WHAT!? what is it the absence of?
abscence of money? abscence of words?
zero or the "abscence of" as it is called now, CANNOT exist independently. Abscence Of, always needs to be connected to another word, person, place or thing.
In order for something to exist it must have a name. It cannot be called labled in the "abscence of" realm. Think about it.
Name something without a name.
make sense boys and girls?
Are you kidding man?
The only chaos in this world is a result of man's ignorance....
We wouldn't have made it this far if our planet was chaotic.
As far as the universe is concerned, notice I didn't mention anything about it. But I will since you touched on the subject.
First off, their is only one Universe.
It might seem chaotic, I won't argue against that.
What I do know is that we are still here today.
We ain't dead yet so the Universe is not as chaotic as you might think....
Now as far as the Universe having a creator, why not?
If you can believe this entity created us and this planet, why stop when it comes to the entire Universe?
That is if you are willing to accept the belief....
The only chaos in this world is a result of man's ignorance....
We wouldn't have made it this far if our planet was chaotic.
As far as the universe is concerned, notice I didn't mention anything about it. But I will since you touched on the subject.
First off, their is only one Universe.
It might seem chaotic, I won't argue against that.
What I do know is that we are still here today.
We ain't dead yet so the Universe is not as chaotic as you might think....
Now as far as the Universe having a creator, why not?
If you can believe this entity created us and this planet, why stop when it comes to the entire Universe?
That is if you are willing to accept the belief....
God is omnipotent and He can do no evil.
Example: You kill me because you want to. I kill you because I have to. You steal from me because you want to. I steal from you because I have to.
You see what I'm sayin?
You kill me FOR evil. I kill you FOR good. You steal from me FOR evil. I steal from you FOR good.
You have murdered me and stolen from me.
I have done neither of these things.
It's called war.
"If thine eye be single then thy whole body is filled with light" -Jesus
Example: You kill me because you want to. I kill you because I have to. You steal from me because you want to. I steal from you because I have to.
You see what I'm sayin?
You kill me FOR evil. I kill you FOR good. You steal from me FOR evil. I steal from you FOR good.
You have murdered me and stolen from me.
I have done neither of these things.
It's called war.
"If thine eye be single then thy whole body is filled with light" -Jesus
Actually he is....
According to the New Testament that is.
I know that it was spoken of in here some time ago.
I stayed away from the convo because I wasn't sure myself.
But the answer is found in the book of Acts.
Either way, it doesn't mean God isn't all knowing just because man has free will.
Man recieved free will when he disobeyed God in a sense.
It's the original sin concept....
I found that the bible claims God is all knowing indirectly. In Acts, some woman who is possessed by some spirit can see the future. It doesn't specify what type of spirit it was, but it goes to show that even a spirit can see the future.
So if a spirit can look into the future, you can assume God is all knowing....
According to the New Testament that is.
I know that it was spoken of in here some time ago.
I stayed away from the convo because I wasn't sure myself.
But the answer is found in the book of Acts.
Either way, it doesn't mean God isn't all knowing just because man has free will.
Man recieved free will when he disobeyed God in a sense.
It's the original sin concept....
I found that the bible claims God is all knowing indirectly. In Acts, some woman who is possessed by some spirit can see the future. It doesn't specify what type of spirit it was, but it goes to show that even a spirit can see the future.
So if a spirit can look into the future, you can assume God is all knowing....