There is no GOD
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Sorry, weed and alcohol is as far as I've ever been.
But I never saw anything....
I know that there might be many cases where people hallucinated shit.
When I was a kid, 5 years old and below, I used to see what ever I thought about.
So I can tell the real from the fake, I've been there.
I once saw a giant scorpion, I knew it was fake cuz I wanted to see it. But I saw a "UFO" looking thing in my backyard, I wasn't seein shit. It was real, a few other kids saw it at the time as well.
Anyways, I don't see what this has to do with God.
Jesus's apostles died for what they believed in. They were so sure about their beliefs that they gave their lives for it.
No one dies for what they "think" they've seen.....
But I never saw anything....
I know that there might be many cases where people hallucinated shit.
When I was a kid, 5 years old and below, I used to see what ever I thought about.
So I can tell the real from the fake, I've been there.
I once saw a giant scorpion, I knew it was fake cuz I wanted to see it. But I saw a "UFO" looking thing in my backyard, I wasn't seein shit. It was real, a few other kids saw it at the time as well.
Anyways, I don't see what this has to do with God.
Jesus's apostles died for what they believed in. They were so sure about their beliefs that they gave their lives for it.
No one dies for what they "think" they've seen.....
"Well if you think about it from the Atheist view or the Darwin view for that matter. If this world was made by "random chance" don't you think the likelihood that the earth would spin off it's axis in to the black abyss?"
I know, it's funny to hear someone go on a big rant about thinking Logically while they are supporting the idea that this whole universe, in all it's synchronicity, came together out of random chance.
I know, it's funny to hear someone go on a big rant about thinking Logically while they are supporting the idea that this whole universe, in all it's synchronicity, came together out of random chance.
@Basically,
It seems you are confused about some concepts here. Maybe you find mathematics confusing or mysterious, and that's how you've come up this wrong analogy. Mathematics is just a language to describe measurements of properties. We can substitute the English language for Mathematics in your zero problem, and use the word "empty" in its place.
"Where is empty. Empty does not exist. Yet an atheist will argue that there is NO God or Supreme Being. So basically saying there is Empty Absolute truth. Yet there is no empirical evidence for Empty. Yet the Atheist will argue when you die the lights turn out and that's it. Basically you die and there is empty."
"There is no empirical evidence for empty?" Both the number zero and the word empty are adjectives. So to answer your question "Where is zero," the answer would be "it is a unit of measurement found within the language of mathematics." Most everyone knows that this is true.
It seems you are confused about some concepts here. Maybe you find mathematics confusing or mysterious, and that's how you've come up this wrong analogy. Mathematics is just a language to describe measurements of properties. We can substitute the English language for Mathematics in your zero problem, and use the word "empty" in its place.
"Where is empty. Empty does not exist. Yet an atheist will argue that there is NO God or Supreme Being. So basically saying there is Empty Absolute truth. Yet there is no empirical evidence for Empty. Yet the Atheist will argue when you die the lights turn out and that's it. Basically you die and there is empty."
"There is no empirical evidence for empty?" Both the number zero and the word empty are adjectives. So to answer your question "Where is zero," the answer would be "it is a unit of measurement found within the language of mathematics." Most everyone knows that this is true.
Logically does an apple need to be called an apple to be an apple. does order need to be personified to be order?
I don't believe in random chance of ANYTHING. everthing can be calculated. so tick tack toe on your shirt HTB tick tack toe on your shirt
(DE is a trip)
Logically is a random happening really random or an event caused by an incomprehendable set of variables?
some of you should study statistics & chaos theory AI programming etcetra. you might find why many atheist cry laughing at the theists.
some of you think that this universe is the only one that exists and since you are limited to what you comprehend of this universe have closed you r mind off to the plausibility of circumstances outside of our universe have caused our existance without the intervention of a deity.
I think maybe you are afraid to consider that you are alone in the universe, that your life isn't "special", that you are vain in thinking that some genie is gonna rescue you from death.
FEAR is why my (black) people can't progress. FEAR is why the high preists of religions eat the sacrifices of the devoted, why the nobility live in fortification and the uncivilized lived in poverty and destitution, and why the inner workings of religion was magic and secretive.
BaSICCally your name denotes your intelligence. You fear hell and wrath I fear nothing but my self. You wish for a stale enternal kiss god's ass worship session in the afterlife. I see that my death is just a my reintegration into the cycles of the universe.
you believe in spooks. therefore beware of the doodoo spirit its coming to bite you in your sleep and suck your soul into the abyss to molest your mind and torment you. watch yourself around every corner for the ghost of your ancestors are coming to pluck your hair out and make your skin peal from your face. LMFAO ch-ch-ch cha-cha-cha boooooooooooooooooooo aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh
@ 20 - he' is scared of logic mathematics and science. he's scared of the evil good god that will reward him for good but destroy him for doing one thing wrong without repentance.
I don't believe in random chance of ANYTHING. everthing can be calculated. so tick tack toe on your shirt HTB tick tack toe on your shirt
(DE is a trip)
Logically is a random happening really random or an event caused by an incomprehendable set of variables?
some of you should study statistics & chaos theory AI programming etcetra. you might find why many atheist cry laughing at the theists.
some of you think that this universe is the only one that exists and since you are limited to what you comprehend of this universe have closed you r mind off to the plausibility of circumstances outside of our universe have caused our existance without the intervention of a deity.
I think maybe you are afraid to consider that you are alone in the universe, that your life isn't "special", that you are vain in thinking that some genie is gonna rescue you from death.
FEAR is why my (black) people can't progress. FEAR is why the high preists of religions eat the sacrifices of the devoted, why the nobility live in fortification and the uncivilized lived in poverty and destitution, and why the inner workings of religion was magic and secretive.
BaSICCally your name denotes your intelligence. You fear hell and wrath I fear nothing but my self. You wish for a stale enternal kiss god's ass worship session in the afterlife. I see that my death is just a my reintegration into the cycles of the universe.
you believe in spooks. therefore beware of the doodoo spirit its coming to bite you in your sleep and suck your soul into the abyss to molest your mind and torment you. watch yourself around every corner for the ghost of your ancestors are coming to pluck your hair out and make your skin peal from your face. LMFAO ch-ch-ch cha-cha-cha boooooooooooooooooooo aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh
@ 20 - he' is scared of logic mathematics and science. he's scared of the evil good god that will reward him for good but destroy him for doing one thing wrong without repentance.
@nefer you need a wah pedal to play those notes.
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God is real...God is a spirit nobody made God God never was made the only ones that were made were humans and space that was made from God...let me show yall somthn what it says in da bible...
The first book of the bible Genesis chapter 3 verse 15, God is talking to both Eve and Satan who had possesed the body of the serpent and said..."And I will put enmity (hate) between thee and the woman and between thy seed and HER SEED......(the verse is a lil longer but this is the part I want to emphasize).
Hold onto your seat and check what this verse just said.........first off notice that the Bible was written a lllllloooonnng time ago.....especially the first book, even though some were written before it.
In this verse, God refered to the woman to having seed. Who in the world is he talking about, and why did he say she has seed. The last time I checked the man carries seed, which is sperm and its impossible for a woman to have seed.....atleast til God showed other wise.
God was refering to the VIRGIN MARY WHO HAD NOT BEEN WITH A MAN (DUH) AND HIS SON JESUS! The angel told Mary that she had recieved child from the Holy Ghost, who is the God. (HOW IS HE GOD U MIGHT ASK...WELL I'll get into that later if you want....)
When God was speaking to the serpent (Satan) talking about his seed, he was refering to Satans Jesus christ duplicate.....the Anti-Christ. Satan is going to try to duplicate what God did with the birth of Jesus but he doesn't have the power God has so instead of a woman being pregnant from spoken word (thats all God did for Mary to get pregnant with his child....SPEAK!!) he is going to have to posess the body of a child personally and start a whole new brand of B.S. on this planet. According to the bible 666 will be on the side of his head.
There are some Satanic fools alive today that actually have this mark tatooed on the side of their heads already but this particular child will be born with this mark. There is a great chance that he is alive today and it will literally be hell on earth when he comes to power. He is described as a individual with great political influence and a leader and all the other "Heroic" quailites. The bible also says that he will preform LYING signs and wonders. Just as Jesus was crucified and rose from the dead, he will get shot in the head and rise again. Just imagine how many people will be fooled seeing this but its a trap for souls of men. I personally belive that he will be showing up if he hasn't already in the public eye in the next ten years. According to the Bible he is going to bring "FALSE" peace to the earth. Look at the crisis in the middle east....its affecting the whole world, and its far from over. I belive that things gone get sobad that when he shows up to so called save the day, the nations will fall in love with him.
Concerning our government, a lot of Satanic things are happening in our government and the other governments of the world but God is still in control. that killuminati crap is true and it definately exists but Satan is behind it and I still need to learn some more about them and their evil satanic influenced influences in our Government.
The beast being a computer and the link posted to a site speaking on the most powerful computer in the world located in Belgium called the B.E.A.S.T. That stands for Battle Engagement and Simmulated Tracking. This is a self booting computer and it is capable of keeping track of every single human being on earth with no problem. Looks like revelations in the bible was righ.....how else could we no buy or sell with out the mark of the beast. The time will come where you won't be able to buy, sell, or even work without the mark of the computer, and the mark will be distributed to individuals throuh a MICROCHIP!!!! There have been numerous experiments of people putting microchips in thier pets and even a few rich people have them implated inder their skin so they can operate itemsin their homes with a simple wave of their hand. The end time is here. Fa Sho!
i'll post some more later...
The first book of the bible Genesis chapter 3 verse 15, God is talking to both Eve and Satan who had possesed the body of the serpent and said..."And I will put enmity (hate) between thee and the woman and between thy seed and HER SEED......(the verse is a lil longer but this is the part I want to emphasize).
Hold onto your seat and check what this verse just said.........first off notice that the Bible was written a lllllloooonnng time ago.....especially the first book, even though some were written before it.
In this verse, God refered to the woman to having seed. Who in the world is he talking about, and why did he say she has seed. The last time I checked the man carries seed, which is sperm and its impossible for a woman to have seed.....atleast til God showed other wise.
God was refering to the VIRGIN MARY WHO HAD NOT BEEN WITH A MAN (DUH) AND HIS SON JESUS! The angel told Mary that she had recieved child from the Holy Ghost, who is the God. (HOW IS HE GOD U MIGHT ASK...WELL I'll get into that later if you want....)
When God was speaking to the serpent (Satan) talking about his seed, he was refering to Satans Jesus christ duplicate.....the Anti-Christ. Satan is going to try to duplicate what God did with the birth of Jesus but he doesn't have the power God has so instead of a woman being pregnant from spoken word (thats all God did for Mary to get pregnant with his child....SPEAK!!) he is going to have to posess the body of a child personally and start a whole new brand of B.S. on this planet. According to the bible 666 will be on the side of his head.
There are some Satanic fools alive today that actually have this mark tatooed on the side of their heads already but this particular child will be born with this mark. There is a great chance that he is alive today and it will literally be hell on earth when he comes to power. He is described as a individual with great political influence and a leader and all the other "Heroic" quailites. The bible also says that he will preform LYING signs and wonders. Just as Jesus was crucified and rose from the dead, he will get shot in the head and rise again. Just imagine how many people will be fooled seeing this but its a trap for souls of men. I personally belive that he will be showing up if he hasn't already in the public eye in the next ten years. According to the Bible he is going to bring "FALSE" peace to the earth. Look at the crisis in the middle east....its affecting the whole world, and its far from over. I belive that things gone get sobad that when he shows up to so called save the day, the nations will fall in love with him.
Concerning our government, a lot of Satanic things are happening in our government and the other governments of the world but God is still in control. that killuminati crap is true and it definately exists but Satan is behind it and I still need to learn some more about them and their evil satanic influenced influences in our Government.
The beast being a computer and the link posted to a site speaking on the most powerful computer in the world located in Belgium called the B.E.A.S.T. That stands for Battle Engagement and Simmulated Tracking. This is a self booting computer and it is capable of keeping track of every single human being on earth with no problem. Looks like revelations in the bible was righ.....how else could we no buy or sell with out the mark of the beast. The time will come where you won't be able to buy, sell, or even work without the mark of the computer, and the mark will be distributed to individuals throuh a MICROCHIP!!!! There have been numerous experiments of people putting microchips in thier pets and even a few rich people have them implated inder their skin so they can operate itemsin their homes with a simple wave of their hand. The end time is here. Fa Sho!
i'll post some more later...
We both know that GOD is the creator. The bible says that GOD created man in his own image. Look in the mirror and all the humanly features that you have were patterned after GODs. He has two eyes, a nose 10 finger and toes, because man (as in mankind) was made in his image. (I made sure I said mankind so you wouldn't think that GOD looked like some kind of male/female looking freak....the reproductive organs men and women have are only for us to be fruitfull and multiply.)
Satan is the Devil. When he was created he was an angel by the name Lucifer, the greatest and most beautiful angel that GOD ever created. Descriptions of how he looked as an angel are found in the bible in the book of Eziekiel 28, verse 12, 13 and 14. (The reason I give you the names of the books in the bible is for you to look in the book and see it for yourself....never take my or anyone's word for it, only take GODs word for it and the bible is GODS WORD......
On verse 15 the bible says (This is talking about Lucifer, before or should I say as he became Satan...I'll explain....) Verse 15 "You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created TILL wickedness was found in you." As you can see God describes Lucifer as being blameless or in other words perfect UNTIL wickedness was found in him.
It explain how this became possible reading further but what stands out in explination the most to me is Verse 17.....it says "Your heart became proud on account of your beauty....and YOU CORRUPTED your wisdom because of your slendor."
There is one sin that this verse is refering to and it is called PRIDE! The sin that got Lucifer the boot out of heaven and stripped of his beauty to the enemy we have today by the name of SATAN! (The word Satan means Adversary or Enemy).
He was so cought up on how great he looked and thought of himself higher than all of GODscreations and it got to the point that he felt he was greater than GOD!!! HA HA what a fool! He thought that he was greater than God almighty the creater of everything.
He was so serious about himself being greater than GOD that he attempted to over throw (I'm laughing ) GOD from the throne because he thought that he was greater...what adds to the crazyness is the fact that he managed to get 1/3 of the heavenly host of angels to rebel against God and there was a war in heaven between the angels thats turned crooked including Lucifer against the angels that were still loyal to GOD of course the devil got his butt kicked and the rest of them too were defeated and kicked out of heaven banished forever.
One thing about angels that turn against GOD...there is no saving them...ITS CURTAINS...but for mankind...things were and STILL ARE a lot different!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now taking everthing that you know now, you will understand why Satan wants to get back at GOD and what happened in the garden of Eden was just the beginning of the devils plan..........
too bad for him he is not as smart as GOD because is truly perfect...in knowledge and everthing ther is to be perfect in.
When you open the bible to the first page in the first book called Genesis it says (Genesis 1:1) "In the beginning GOD created the heavens and the Earth." That particular part of that verse is refering to the period where God first made this planet and the heavens and the period where Lucifer fell and became Satan our adversary. In verse 2 it says...."And the Earth was without form and void and darkness was upon the face of the deep and the spirit of GOD moved upon the face of the waters. How could it be without form and void if GOD just created it!!!!! Makes since doesn't it...that means verse two is definately along was from verse 1. God possibly created the Earth 1,000,000 years before the events in verse 2 and the other following verses came to play.
If you never noticed it,......GOD says LET there be light...etc Let there be this, let there be that and so on..... the word let is a word of allowance. In other words GOD is giving or allowing the light the permission to shine again. Something must have happened to cause it to stop shining, and what that was I don't fully understand so I won't speak on it...I aint trying to get you confused...I'm just going to lay down the importance. Keep that in mind when reading Genesis and he says Let, he is only restoring or fixing what he had created and made it good again.
The only different LET you should see is the one when he created man. The reason is simply, there were no men to even restore or put back in order, where as when he divided to waters from the firmament (which is the sky) in verse 6 he was fixing things back to how he originally made it ......GOOD.
Satan is the Devil. When he was created he was an angel by the name Lucifer, the greatest and most beautiful angel that GOD ever created. Descriptions of how he looked as an angel are found in the bible in the book of Eziekiel 28, verse 12, 13 and 14. (The reason I give you the names of the books in the bible is for you to look in the book and see it for yourself....never take my or anyone's word for it, only take GODs word for it and the bible is GODS WORD......
On verse 15 the bible says (This is talking about Lucifer, before or should I say as he became Satan...I'll explain....) Verse 15 "You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created TILL wickedness was found in you." As you can see God describes Lucifer as being blameless or in other words perfect UNTIL wickedness was found in him.
It explain how this became possible reading further but what stands out in explination the most to me is Verse 17.....it says "Your heart became proud on account of your beauty....and YOU CORRUPTED your wisdom because of your slendor."
There is one sin that this verse is refering to and it is called PRIDE! The sin that got Lucifer the boot out of heaven and stripped of his beauty to the enemy we have today by the name of SATAN! (The word Satan means Adversary or Enemy).
He was so cought up on how great he looked and thought of himself higher than all of GODscreations and it got to the point that he felt he was greater than GOD!!! HA HA what a fool! He thought that he was greater than God almighty the creater of everything.
He was so serious about himself being greater than GOD that he attempted to over throw (I'm laughing ) GOD from the throne because he thought that he was greater...what adds to the crazyness is the fact that he managed to get 1/3 of the heavenly host of angels to rebel against God and there was a war in heaven between the angels thats turned crooked including Lucifer against the angels that were still loyal to GOD of course the devil got his butt kicked and the rest of them too were defeated and kicked out of heaven banished forever.
One thing about angels that turn against GOD...there is no saving them...ITS CURTAINS...but for mankind...things were and STILL ARE a lot different!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now taking everthing that you know now, you will understand why Satan wants to get back at GOD and what happened in the garden of Eden was just the beginning of the devils plan..........
too bad for him he is not as smart as GOD because is truly perfect...in knowledge and everthing ther is to be perfect in.
When you open the bible to the first page in the first book called Genesis it says (Genesis 1:1) "In the beginning GOD created the heavens and the Earth." That particular part of that verse is refering to the period where God first made this planet and the heavens and the period where Lucifer fell and became Satan our adversary. In verse 2 it says...."And the Earth was without form and void and darkness was upon the face of the deep and the spirit of GOD moved upon the face of the waters. How could it be without form and void if GOD just created it!!!!! Makes since doesn't it...that means verse two is definately along was from verse 1. God possibly created the Earth 1,000,000 years before the events in verse 2 and the other following verses came to play.
If you never noticed it,......GOD says LET there be light...etc Let there be this, let there be that and so on..... the word let is a word of allowance. In other words GOD is giving or allowing the light the permission to shine again. Something must have happened to cause it to stop shining, and what that was I don't fully understand so I won't speak on it...I aint trying to get you confused...I'm just going to lay down the importance. Keep that in mind when reading Genesis and he says Let, he is only restoring or fixing what he had created and made it good again.
The only different LET you should see is the one when he created man. The reason is simply, there were no men to even restore or put back in order, where as when he divided to waters from the firmament (which is the sky) in verse 6 he was fixing things back to how he originally made it ......GOOD.