So Hutch, if you believe a theory, something that hasn't been proven are you using Logic? I agree that religion at times cannot be proven with HUMAN LOGIC, but does a women bleeding for ten years with no apparent sickness then is healed Logic? Does a man shot in the head 3 TIMES and survive even hitting his brain Logic? Can a prophecy in the Bible that comes true, be explained Logically?
The Last of the Siccness Christians
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i think he is the son of god. he is the king of kings, he is part of god but he is not THE god. just like you are a part of god but not THE creator. if you refuse to be a part of god, then you have no place in his devine design. he has given you a choice and an example to follow. He has given you his only son and true follower, jesus. and he has given you the choice to be with him in his kingdom thru his only son, jesus christ. hes a part of god now, but only when he fullfiled gods purpose for life. which is to walk in the spirit instead of the flesh.
Do you see what im saying?
Do you see what im saying?
EDJ READ GENESIS 3:22, It doesn't matter what bible you use, IT'S ALL THE SAME. It proves the trinity. Genesis 3:22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of US , to know good and evil:and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat and live for ever:
i understand what you are saying but its not making sense to me. if you live by societies rules, then you dont have a choice. your are like a sheep at the shepards command. so therefore you are not seeing your own beauty in the world, but seeing the beauty others have instilled in you. whether it is corrupt or not. you are not truly making your own personal choices then. it is merely an illusion. you are just a product of what society pleases to do with you. you can make a conscience choice about your personal life, but that would be like, making a choice on what they have already designed for you.
like you picking out what kind of shoes to wear, from the two that your wife picked out for you. you are like and individual attached to strings controlled by another, a mere puppet.
on the other hand, what the bible teaches, is to have control over self. and what is written in the bible is all aimed at helping me make my own choices. the ultimate one being to follow or not to follow? that is the question. but how would you go about in basing this major descision? its all in the bible,
i made a conscience choice to follow the bible, wether is right or wrong, but I made that choice.
like you picking out what kind of shoes to wear, from the two that your wife picked out for you. you are like and individual attached to strings controlled by another, a mere puppet.
on the other hand, what the bible teaches, is to have control over self. and what is written in the bible is all aimed at helping me make my own choices. the ultimate one being to follow or not to follow? that is the question. but how would you go about in basing this major descision? its all in the bible,
i made a conscience choice to follow the bible, wether is right or wrong, but I made that choice.
Can you explain why it says, therefore God, THY GOD? Is God referring to another God, is he doing what Jesus did on the Cross, asking God, his Father, why he has forsaken him? EDJ please answer these, if you want more, I'll throw more Scripture at you, just my way of throwing bread when you throw stone like doctrines at me.
I believe in the Trinity, and I bet my site membership that NEITHER YOU NOR HUTCH would tear me a new one in regards to this matter. Now, as far as what the bible does and doesn't speak on their are many things. It doesn't speak on Jesus being Michael (which YOU believe), and it doesn't mention 144,000 J.W.'s going to heaven...:dead:
it makes perfect sense. if god is all knowing, then he would have known man would fall from grace. thus he knew jesus was essential to the continuation of the human race. if then you ask since he is all knowing and perfect, why is there so much chaos in the world. did he himself planted there to begin with?
no, he only created what was good. but he also created a neutral world, susceptable to both good and evil, truth and deceipt. so all he can do is guide us. he loved us so much that he gave us a choice to be with him or not. the prove of that love is we are here, with a conscience mind. able to make choices unlike animals.
if your biased. everything that comes forth from you is biased. that is your nature. so then what is your biased based on? well you said you would lie to get yourway. so your bias is all based on yourself. tell me is this a respectable character? if you are only worried about yourself, how can someone take your ideas seriously? how do you expect people to trust you? if you are only worried about yourself. how can you grow? if your not growin your dying. well you dont need anyone your an individual right? but we as humans are not meant to be alone. we need attention. if you have no respectable reputation why would anyone take what you say serious? how are your ideas crediable. and then why would i want to be a friend of yours? your idea creates division.
"Devide and conquer" "order thru chaos" think about that.
no, he only created what was good. but he also created a neutral world, susceptable to both good and evil, truth and deceipt. so all he can do is guide us. he loved us so much that he gave us a choice to be with him or not. the prove of that love is we are here, with a conscience mind. able to make choices unlike animals.
if your biased. everything that comes forth from you is biased. that is your nature. so then what is your biased based on? well you said you would lie to get yourway. so your bias is all based on yourself. tell me is this a respectable character? if you are only worried about yourself, how can someone take your ideas seriously? how do you expect people to trust you? if you are only worried about yourself. how can you grow? if your not growin your dying. well you dont need anyone your an individual right? but we as humans are not meant to be alone. we need attention. if you have no respectable reputation why would anyone take what you say serious? how are your ideas crediable. and then why would i want to be a friend of yours? your idea creates division.
"Devide and conquer" "order thru chaos" think about that.
i believe jesus is a part of god, no question about that. but why is he a part of god? his spirit. but here in the pshysical world he cant be. He is only a symbol of what his spirit is. he was a part of god because he walked in the spirit and not the flesh! the spirit is a part of god. he was sent here as prove of gods love for us, as a symbol. "But to those who did accept him he gave power to become children of God, to those who believe in his name" therefore he was given all the powers of god because he is the only one that walked in the spirit here in the physical world according to the bible and anyone who walks in the spirit is a son of god. if you are god-like you are a part of god and his purpose. so therefore you are being gromed to be a son of god, and the only way you would have a chance for that to happen is through jesus. if you believe in jesus then you have faith. and faith its all that is required to begin your journey.
wait so you think Jesus and YHWH Elohim is the same guy?
You gotta be kidding me YHWH is to great to even humble himself
to turn into flesh.....
just look up Tetragramatron YHWH Elohim..
those are gods names.. isn't jesus like Yesha or something like that?
also YHWH is and Michael and Tetragramatron are the names written on the magick circle when magickans summons great demons. But those divine names are written on there to keep the demon out of the circle on the ground. But evil Magickans know that YHWH and Jesus a are a differnt person and spirit.. but they are closely united
You gotta be kidding me YHWH is to great to even humble himself
to turn into flesh.....
just look up Tetragramatron YHWH Elohim..
those are gods names.. isn't jesus like Yesha or something like that?
also YHWH is and Michael and Tetragramatron are the names written on the magick circle when magickans summons great demons. But those divine names are written on there to keep the demon out of the circle on the ground. But evil Magickans know that YHWH and Jesus a are a differnt person and spirit.. but they are closely united
Ok Jehovah Witness, man I just took a bunch of notes, AND WITH THOSE NOTES, I'LL KILL ANY JEHOVAH WITNESS FALSE TEACHING THAT JESUS ISN'T YHWH. MESHIACH, BEN ELOHIM! Mistah Murder, Jesus appeared to Moses in the Mountain, He appeared to Abraham as an angel, he appeared to Hagar as an Angel, he appeared to Jacob as an Angel. So what makes you think God wouldn't send his son, I didn't say the father was Jesus.