The Last of the Siccness Christians
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lol....regurgitate the bible. well let see, no i never physically met him. but i do know he was the only human on earth that was god-like. if he wasnt god-like then its not possible for him to sacrifice himself for me.
since the bible is written by eye witnesses that testify to his sacrifice, and since i know that the only way possible for this sacrifice to happen is if he is sin free, then i can confidently say that yes he was sin free, through my own thought process and conclusions and not the bibles. how can i do that? with the guidence of the holy spirit aka my conscience and reasoning. for it is writen..."ask god any questions and he will gladly give you the answer".
If you dont mind me asking the same question i asked hutch, what you believe your purpose in life is?
since the bible is written by eye witnesses that testify to his sacrifice, and since i know that the only way possible for this sacrifice to happen is if he is sin free, then i can confidently say that yes he was sin free, through my own thought process and conclusions and not the bibles. how can i do that? with the guidence of the holy spirit aka my conscience and reasoning. for it is writen..."ask god any questions and he will gladly give you the answer".
If you dont mind me asking the same question i asked hutch, what you believe your purpose in life is?
I have no purpose in life, none of us do. I see the whole 'but where do I fit in?' argument as a weakness of character. Before I was conceived, I did not exist. Likewise, when I die, I will cease to exist. The closest us humans come to having a purpose is procreation.
That's not to say that I have a defeatist attitude. I see the forest for the trees instead of dwelling in the fog of religion to deliberately obscure the details. Life is beautiful and I enjoy it more knowing that it's the only one I'm ever going to have.
That's not to say that I have a defeatist attitude. I see the forest for the trees instead of dwelling in the fog of religion to deliberately obscure the details. Life is beautiful and I enjoy it more knowing that it's the only one I'm ever going to have.
Nope, just like the Egg, can a chicken egg be an egg without any of the three parts?
Correction, first of all He was born FULL GOD yet FULL MAN. Secondly, he did not inherit the original sin because of how he was conceived, and seeing that he was God, he couldn't of sin, because he is God.
Read the Bible mate, without Jesus creation would not have been possible. The Father is God.
If I gave you a religious say on this, you'll claim it's illogical so what's the use?
The Only thing that will ever prevent you from believing in a god, is your own biased opinion.
Not at all Kangaroo Hutch.
Correction, first of all He was born FULL GOD yet FULL MAN. Secondly, he did not inherit the original sin because of how he was conceived, and seeing that he was God, he couldn't of sin, because he is God.
Read the Bible mate, without Jesus creation would not have been possible. The Father is God.
If I gave you a religious say on this, you'll claim it's illogical so what's the use?
The Only thing that will ever prevent you from believing in a god, is your own biased opinion.
Not at all Kangaroo Hutch.
if you have no purpose then, you are not in control. you are lost, wondering with no direction. so, you are not in FULL control, you are unreliable and in no contol. you are subject to manipulation. your character is weak because it lacks a purpose. you soccumb to your physical urges. no control whatsoever.
what do think of this?
what do think of this?
Why do I need a defined purpose? More to the point, why must my purpose have anything to do with a hypothetical God? I live my own life by societies rules and I bloody well enjoy it. If you require God to comfort you then so be it, but I certainly don't consider myself lost in any way, shape or form. On the contrary, I know who I am and don't feel the need to subscribe to any religion in order to 'find' myself - if anything, you are merely a sheep following the word of the bible, plodding along a predictable, well trodden path. I, on the other hand, am the leader of my own individual pack. See the forest for the trees jon - if I needed God then I would have found him by now.
I like your business analogy - after all, religion is big business.
I like your business analogy - after all, religion is big business.
OK, that makes no sense. Now I know what people mean when they say that trinitarianism is illogical. Then again, since when does logic play a role in religion?
I have read the bible, I must have skimmed past the parts which say Jesus was required for creation. After all, Jesus was born into an already fully formed world - his birth was not required in order for it to be created in the first place. That makes absolutely no sense.
Yes, I am biased but at least I developed my own bias and didn't blindly accept the biases of others. I formed my own opinion, I was never indoctrinated an athiest. My opinion is based on evidence, yours is not. I use reason and logic, you apply blind faith. You obviously see nothing wrong with that because you believe in God. Both views are totally incompatible - I'm yet to meet anybody that believes in God yet knows their belief flies in the face of logic, reason and evidence - after all, if they applied their logic and reason and actually analysed the available evidence, they wouldn't be believers. Instead they claim that they have evidence (refering to the bible, which is in no way evidence sorry!), and twist their logic and reason around to suit their needs. Fair enough, I would definitely consider lying to an attractive woman, even to the extent of self-deception, in order to get her to sleep with me.
I have read the bible, I must have skimmed past the parts which say Jesus was required for creation. After all, Jesus was born into an already fully formed world - his birth was not required in order for it to be created in the first place. That makes absolutely no sense.
Yes, I am biased but at least I developed my own bias and didn't blindly accept the biases of others. I formed my own opinion, I was never indoctrinated an athiest. My opinion is based on evidence, yours is not. I use reason and logic, you apply blind faith. You obviously see nothing wrong with that because you believe in God. Both views are totally incompatible - I'm yet to meet anybody that believes in God yet knows their belief flies in the face of logic, reason and evidence - after all, if they applied their logic and reason and actually analysed the available evidence, they wouldn't be believers. Instead they claim that they have evidence (refering to the bible, which is in no way evidence sorry!), and twist their logic and reason around to suit their needs. Fair enough, I would definitely consider lying to an attractive woman, even to the extent of self-deception, in order to get her to sleep with me.
