Super Middleweight tournament officially annouced. Who will win?

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#64
YOU CANT BE AN AMERICAN AND EXPECT TO OUTBOX UR OPPONENT IN EUROPE...THERE WAS NO WAY EITHER OF THEM WOULD HAVE GOT A DECISION...AT SOME POINT THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THEY NEEDED A KO WIN..
 
May 13, 2002
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damn taylor whooped abraham for what 9-10 rounds? lol how the hell is he going to get ko'd again with 12 seconds left? i picked abraham to win but still taylor fought perfectly till the very end kinda feel bad 4 the guy must b somethin mental.

still havnt seen the dirrell fight...
 
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^^^ To me Taylor got whooped from round 5 all the way to 12 I was pretty dissapointed in Taylor, no way he would have won the decision but thats complete crap that Darrell didnt get the decision. the commission needs to step in and over rule this decision since its a tournament.
 
May 13, 2002
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I don't know, I had taylor winning rounds 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 10 and 11.

I watched the Romanian broadcast as well, which means I couldn't understand a word of what people were saying, just scored it how I saw it. I mean there were a couple close rounds, but to me taylor was out-working abraham and landing his jab effectively. I don't see how Abraham could have been winning the fight. All he would do is a land a couple of shots a round, and that's it. Sure he landed more of the harder shots, but you cant win a round getting out-boxed for 2 and half minutes, then a land a nice shot or two and expect to win the round.

I thought it was pretty clear taylor was a head on the cards. Abraham looked defeated too in my eyes going into the last round, which is why I was so shocked at the KO.
 
May 6, 2002
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I'm still not sure how Dirrell lost that fight. I lost a little money on this too 714 .. but I didn't have a backup bet .. luckily it was a small $25 bet.
I have no clue how he lost. I guess it was from hitting Dirrell during the clinches? Or maybe since Dirrell was moving backwards? Ring generalship? You got me...

Ya, had to have the Over as insurance. I thought I could cash on the dog, but no luck...
 
May 6, 2002
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Ya, just to add on...

You've got about 99% of the US fans calling robbery.
From what I've been reading, the majority of the Brits say Dirrell won as well.

Malignaggi's robbery from Diaz takes a back seat in this one.
Dirrell just got Glen Johnsoned...to the n'th degree...
 
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Jermain Taylor, who was brutally knocked out by Arthur Abraham with six seconds remaining in their 12-round super middleweight fight on Saturday night in Berlin, suffered a severe concussion and was taken to the hospital, promoter Lou DiBella told ESPN.com Saturday night.

Taylor will remain in the hospital for several days, according to DiBella.

In the first bout of Showtime's Super Six World Boxing Classic six-man super middleweight tournament, Taylor, the former undisputed middleweight champion, appeared on his way to a decision loss to Abraham as the 12th round wound down. However, Abraham (31-0, 25 KOs) caught Taylor with a flush right hand to the chin and knocked him out. Taylor, whose head hit the canvas hard when he landed, needed immediate medical attention.

After Taylor (28-4-1, 17 KOs) left the ring under his own power, he complained of a headache, DiBella said. Taylor was taken to the hospital and underwent a battery of tests. DiBella said he would have additional tests, including another CT scan and MRI, before he is released.

"He has a severe concussion," DiBella said. "He also had some short-term memory loss, and in the interest of being completely safe and overly safe, he'll be in the hospital probably for several days. They believe the area of his head that was hurting him was from his head hitting the canvas. He'll be in Berlin for another week because the doctors didn't want him to fly, but his wife and his mother are with him."

DiBella said when they were in the dressing room after the fight, Taylor asked him what round he was knocked out in. DiBella told him, but Taylor asked him again a few minutes later. And then, according to DiBella, Taylor asked his wife the same question twice because he could not recall which round he had been stopped in.

Taylor was also knocked out in his previous bout in April, when titleholder Carl Froch rallied to stop him with 14 seconds left in the 12th round. Taylor, who outpointed Bernard Hopkins in 2005 to claim the undisputed middleweight championship, has lost four of his last five bouts, including three by knockout.

Whether Taylor remains in the modified round-robin Super Six tournament has not been determined, DiBella said.

If Taylor continues in the tournament, he would face Andre Ward next followed by Andre Dirrell. Froch and titleholder Mikkel Kessler are the other two boxers in the tournament. In his hometown of Nottingham, England, Froch outpointed Dirrell to retain his title on Saturday night in the second-half of Showtime's split-site doubleheader. Denmark's Kessler comes to Ward's hometown of Oakland to defend his belt in the final Group Stage 1 bout on Nov. 21.

"Jermain's health is paramount and whether he continues in the tournament or not is not a decision that has to be made right this second," DiBella said. "He suffered a bad knockout. He was suspended medically, like anyone who suffers a knockout, so we don't have to think about that right now. Right now, we're just concerned with getting him home and getting him healthy, and we won't explore anything else right now."

Should Taylor, or any other fighter, withdraw from the tournament, Allan Green, whom DiBella also promotes, has been designated by Showtime as the first alternate.

Abraham's knockout victory, in front of a supportive crowd of more than 14,000 at the O2 World Arena, was worth three points -- two for the win plus an xtra point for the knockout -- in the tournament. Froch picked up two points for his decision win. Taylor and Dirrell got no points for their losses.

The four fighters with the most points after three bouts apiece will advance to the single-elimination semifinals of the tournament, which will take approximately 18 months to complete.
 
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pretty good night of fights. thought dirrell won. he landed more shots and hurt him once for sure. i guess the judges just give rounds to the person who is moving forward most of the round who knows
 
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I wouldn't call the Dirrell Froch fight a robbery. Dirrell won the last 3 rounds and deserved to win by a point or 2, but it was close. It was nowhere near the Malignaggi Diaz robbery.
How is it not? Both Froch & Diaz won of ineffective aggression. Just because you're coming forward and throwing punches doesn't mean they're landing or doing anything at all. Dirrell outboxed him easily, had a few rough rounds in between and ended up getting fucked over. Going into the last round I had Froch needed a knockout to win, not just a knockdown.
 
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well I guess abraham's face was all busted up and bruised from air punches then??
I watched that interview right after that fight and he was fine! I dont know whats "busted up" to you??



and this picture is not from yesterday
 
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Kind of a shitty start to the tournament, IMO.

Taylor was clearly ahead on the cards. Arthur would let himself lose rounds on inactivity. You can't expect to win a round throwing 30 punches a around, and only fighting in spurts.


The two guys calling the Taylor fight were fucking pieces of shit, and biased as fuck in favor of Abraham. They said in the 12th that Abraham had a comfortable lead, and that is some straight bullshit.

No arguing the outcome because Taylor got caught flush, but he was definitely ahead in my opinion.


I knew that Dirrell would have to dominate to get a decision. Froch was pushing forward but hardly landing anything, and there were was only one time in the entire fight where I thought he even buzzed Dirrell.

Dirrell had Froch out of it at least 4 times that I remember, and was making him miss constantly. I didn't see any final punchstats, but I know for sure that Froch had to have been only able to land like 20% of his shots. IF THAT.

Bullshit decision. The ref was a fag. Froch had to resort to dirty tactics and the ref didn't do shit about his blatant holding and hitting behind the head, as well as his fucking MMA throws.


And they wonder why fighters are reluctant to cross the pond. Of course, it was the two European judges who scored it 115-112 for Froch. Which is fucking insane, considering Froch easily and clearly lost the first 5 rounds of the fight, and clearly lost the last 3.
 
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^^agreed 100% with your post. Dirrell was robbed blatantly and Taylor was a head on the cards going into the 12th.

Dirrell getting robbed like that definitely has this tournament going off in the wrong direction. Dirrell vs Abraham next, hopefully Dirrell wont get robbed this time around but if it's in Germany I wouldn't doubt it happening again since I don't see a KO happening.