RANDOM QUESTION
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^^^^^^^^^^^ its not the responsibility of the feature. but why would someone pay so much for a feature knowing damn well that they will have to sell more units than the feaure does. its backwards. in that scenario the feature should be paying the artist for exposure. lol
but if this is the case then every artist should charge at least $1,000 for a feature.
but if this is the case then every artist should charge at least $1,000 for a feature.
the simple answer is that they wouldn't. period, it doesn't make business sense. if you will not see an ROI, don't do it. end of story.
the worth of "exposure" as it's commonly used in the music industry is absolutely nothing. "exposure" is a carrot people like to dangle in front of artists and entities that don't know shit about how they're really going to make shit pop for themselves.
the truth of the matter is that there's artists in the bay that don't have to pay for 6 features to have a project people will notice. they can put one together on the strength of themselves and the people they surround themselves with, so they don't have to trip off the entire 6 x 1000 portion of your formula. if you depend on those artists to make your project a success, that's unfortunate.
the worth of "exposure" as it's commonly used in the music industry is absolutely nothing. "exposure" is a carrot people like to dangle in front of artists and entities that don't know shit about how they're really going to make shit pop for themselves.
the truth of the matter is that there's artists in the bay that don't have to pay for 6 features to have a project people will notice. they can put one together on the strength of themselves and the people they surround themselves with, so they don't have to trip off the entire 6 x 1000 portion of your formula. if you depend on those artists to make your project a success, that's unfortunate.
QUICC QUESTION???
HOW MANY ARTISTS DO U KNOW THAT DONT HAVE CHEAP DRUG HABITS THAT DO FEATURES 4 $200. THATS THE CRABS IN A BUCCET PART OF THE INDY GAME. THERES MONEY 2 BE MADE IF U HAVE A FAN BASE. NOT JUST PEOPLE WHO U HANG OUT WITH. THE BUSINESS MAY HAVE CHANGED BUT THE DOLLAR BILLS STILL SPEND THE SAME. IF U THINK SMALL,U GET CRUMBS.IF U THINK BIG,U EAT GOOD. IF U HAVE NO CATALOG THAT HAS ACTUALLY SOLD SOME UNITS....U ARE A $200 DOLLAR RAPPER. THATS HOBBY SHIT. I FEEL THE SAME ABOUT $200 SHOWS. DONT JUDGE ME THO,IM JUST ME.
HOW MANY ARTISTS DO U KNOW THAT DONT HAVE CHEAP DRUG HABITS THAT DO FEATURES 4 $200. THATS THE CRABS IN A BUCCET PART OF THE INDY GAME. THERES MONEY 2 BE MADE IF U HAVE A FAN BASE. NOT JUST PEOPLE WHO U HANG OUT WITH. THE BUSINESS MAY HAVE CHANGED BUT THE DOLLAR BILLS STILL SPEND THE SAME. IF U THINK SMALL,U GET CRUMBS.IF U THINK BIG,U EAT GOOD. IF U HAVE NO CATALOG THAT HAS ACTUALLY SOLD SOME UNITS....U ARE A $200 DOLLAR RAPPER. THATS HOBBY SHIT. I FEEL THE SAME ABOUT $200 SHOWS. DONT JUDGE ME THO,IM JUST ME.
Shit's tough out there. I think it's worth noting that if you rap and have yet to accomplish anything of substance the odds are 100% stacked against you that you will ever accomplish anything.
The reason why this is imperative to realize, is because you can't overcome an obstacle, or a nuance to a challenge if you don't take it to heart and know that it really exists. Another reason why it's important is because maybe an honest assessment might yield a realization in which you stop spinning your wheels and focus energy on something more productive. Ionno, those are valuable outcomes to me, if we're all interested in progress, they might be to you as well.
It takes a lot to make it in this game today. The public is just waiting to shit on the next rapper they perceive as corny, and they can just move on to the next one. By the same token they're also looking for that new shit, but the definition is shifting so violently that it pretty much makes it a statistical impossibility that a given artist's image will fit that.
All I'm saying is that, if you were interested in reaching the top, you wouldn't wanna climb Mt. Everest without knowing how difficult it is. And maybe when you get a good picture of how difficult it is, you might wanna pack up and go home. This is to no one in particular, btw.
The reason why this is imperative to realize, is because you can't overcome an obstacle, or a nuance to a challenge if you don't take it to heart and know that it really exists. Another reason why it's important is because maybe an honest assessment might yield a realization in which you stop spinning your wheels and focus energy on something more productive. Ionno, those are valuable outcomes to me, if we're all interested in progress, they might be to you as well.
It takes a lot to make it in this game today. The public is just waiting to shit on the next rapper they perceive as corny, and they can just move on to the next one. By the same token they're also looking for that new shit, but the definition is shifting so violently that it pretty much makes it a statistical impossibility that a given artist's image will fit that.
All I'm saying is that, if you were interested in reaching the top, you wouldn't wanna climb Mt. Everest without knowing how difficult it is. And maybe when you get a good picture of how difficult it is, you might wanna pack up and go home. This is to no one in particular, btw.
EITHER U GOT IT OR U DONT...THERE IS A SYSTEM. THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN A LOTTA RAPPERS. BUT IF U DIDNT HAVE YOUR SHIT TOGETHER U COULDNT GET ON A TRACC.IVE ALWAYS BEEN MORE OF AN ENFORCER THAN AN ENABLER. IN THE 90'S,MUSIC HAD MORE OF A THEME 2 IT AND MAKING A SONG IN THE STUDIO MIGHT BE YOUR ONLY SHOT SO PEOPLE PUT THEIR HEART IN SOUL INTO WHATEVER THEY WERE CREATING.U CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE. MUSIC WASNT SO WATERED DOWN. THAT MUSIC FROM THE 90'S STILL SELLS TODAY. BETTER THAN THE NEW MUSIC. AT LEAST MINE DOES. I GUESS WE ALL SEE THE BUSINESS FROM DIFFERENT VIEWS...BUT I DONT KNOW ANY ARTIST WHO MADE ANY PROGRESS BY GETTIN $200 FEATURES. U GET WHAT U PAY 4.
I think the cost of an actualal RECORDING studio is very minimal. Now, having said that, paying someone who actually knows how to mix, takes the time and puts effort into it is pricey in terms of a whole album. Mastering, same thing. Pressing and distribution are not very costly. Based on research, you could put out a quality project for 5-6 g's.
NOTHING PERSONAL AGAINST U HOMIE BUT THIS IS THE TYPE OF THINKING THAT OVERSATURATED THE GAME. I GUESS THE MORE U ARE WORTH AND THE MORE PEOPLE ARE WILLING 2 INVEST BUT ON AN INDEPENDENT LEVEL 5-6 G'S WILL KEEP IN THE LOWER BRACCET UNLESS YOUR ARTIST IS A PHENOM. GETTING A PROJECT MIXED AND MASTERED ALONE 4 5-6 G'S IS A SUPER DEAL ON A PROFESSIONAL LEVEL. THAT PART OF THE GAME HAS BEEN TRANSFORMED CUZ HOBBYISTS THINK THEY CAN SPEND $500 ON MIXING AND $200 ON FEATURES AND HAVE A QUALITY PROJECT THAT WILL MAKE AN IMPACT. I'D LIKE 2 SEE THE FAIL/SUCCEED RATIO 4 PEOPLE WHO TRY THAT FORMULA.
I HAD SOME BUDDIES PAY LIKE 10 Gs FOR A FEATURE FROM OMAR CRUZ. WHEN EVERYBODY HERE IN SO CAL THOUGHT HE WAS GONNA BLOW UP. GRANTED HE HOSTED A SHOW ON MTV 3. BUT HE FELL OFF AND AIN'T DID SHIT AS FAR AS IM AWARE. AND MY FRIENDS PROJECT DIDN'T DO SHIT. THEY WERE BEING CHARGED TO PERFORM. THEY TRIED RUBBING ELBOWS WITH NAMES IN THE INDUSTRY.
THEY RECORDED THEIR ALBUM IN A SONY STUDIO. HAD A ALBUM RELEASE PARTY. THE WHOLE SHIT.
LONG STORY SHORT. I THINK HE's A CUSTODIAN AT A SCHOOL NOW.
THEY RECORDED THEIR ALBUM IN A SONY STUDIO. HAD A ALBUM RELEASE PARTY. THE WHOLE SHIT.
LONG STORY SHORT. I THINK HE's A CUSTODIAN AT A SCHOOL NOW.
MOST PEOPLE WHO DONT KNOW WHAT THEYRE DOING SPEND THEIR MONEY IN THE WRONG PLACES...IVE SEEN IT HAPPEN 1000 TIMES. THEY COULDA SPENT THAT 10K ON SOME PROMOTIONS AND PROBABLY MADE SOME MONEY BACC AND HAD A LITTLE FUN. THE MOST IVE PAID SOMEONE 4 A FEATURE IS $2500 MYSELF....I PROBABLY COULD HAVE GOT THE VERSE 4 FREE BUT I HAD A BUDGET...WHY NOT HELP OTHER ARTISTS EAT??? IT SEEMS 2 ME THAT ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ARTISTS AND TURNED INTO INDEPENDENT BUSINESSMEN HATE ON FELLOW ARTISTS BUT THE WAY THE SOUTH BUBBLED WAS THEM SUPPORTING EACH OTHER...SAD 2 SAY,IM SO USED 2 HATERS AND JEALOUS PEOPLE IM PRETTY NUMB 2 IT AND TAKE IT WITH THE TERRITORY.
IF U ARE A TIGHT ARTIST, AND U GO WHERE THEY WANT U AND SUPPORT U...U WILL GET PAID WHAT U WANT. IF U SIT AROUND CALI AND DONT GO WORK AT YOUR GOALS...YOU'LL END UP A COMPLAINER LIKE MOST OF THE HOMIES I RAPPED WITH IN THE PAST WHO WERE TIGHT BUT NEVER LEFT HOME AND MADE NO REAL $$$ SO THEY BLAME A FUCCED UP LIFE ON THE RAPGAME. RAPPERS WITHOUT DEALS DONT SEE MILLIONS.ITS A MYTH. BUT IT CAN BE A PROFITABLE HUSTLE IF U HAVE THE TIME AND MONEY 2 INVEST. THIS TOPIC ENDED UP MORE INTERESTING THAN I THOUGHT.IM THANKFUL 4 WHAT THE RAP BUSINESS HAS DONE 4 ME AND SHOWED ME EVEN THOUGH IT ISNT ALWAYS FUN AND GAMES. WCM
IF U ARE A TIGHT ARTIST, AND U GO WHERE THEY WANT U AND SUPPORT U...U WILL GET PAID WHAT U WANT. IF U SIT AROUND CALI AND DONT GO WORK AT YOUR GOALS...YOU'LL END UP A COMPLAINER LIKE MOST OF THE HOMIES I RAPPED WITH IN THE PAST WHO WERE TIGHT BUT NEVER LEFT HOME AND MADE NO REAL $$$ SO THEY BLAME A FUCCED UP LIFE ON THE RAPGAME. RAPPERS WITHOUT DEALS DONT SEE MILLIONS.ITS A MYTH. BUT IT CAN BE A PROFITABLE HUSTLE IF U HAVE THE TIME AND MONEY 2 INVEST. THIS TOPIC ENDED UP MORE INTERESTING THAN I THOUGHT.IM THANKFUL 4 WHAT THE RAP BUSINESS HAS DONE 4 ME AND SHOWED ME EVEN THOUGH IT ISNT ALWAYS FUN AND GAMES. WCM
THESE FOOLS CHANGED THEIR STYLES AND TRIED TO BE MORE MAINSTREAM. WHEN BEFORE THEY WERE MORE GANGSTER AS SOLO ARTISTS. THEY HAD DECENT PRODUCTION, FEATURES,VIDEOS,ETC.
THEY COULDA GOT TIGHTER FEATURES FROM SOME OF THE HOMIES. FOR FREE.
BUT I THINK THEY THOUGHT THEIR FEATURES WERE GONNA. BE ALL THE PROMO THEY NEEDED.
I CAN'T FIGURE IF IT WAS THE WAY THEY HUSTLED IT OR IF IT WAS THE WAY CHANGED THEIR STYLE. OR WHAT HAPPENED. ON PAPER IT LOOKED GOOD. BUT IT FLOPPED HARDER THAN VLADE DIVAC WOULD IN THE PLAYOFFS
THEY COULDA GOT TIGHTER FEATURES FROM SOME OF THE HOMIES. FOR FREE.
BUT I THINK THEY THOUGHT THEIR FEATURES WERE GONNA. BE ALL THE PROMO THEY NEEDED.
I CAN'T FIGURE IF IT WAS THE WAY THEY HUSTLED IT OR IF IT WAS THE WAY CHANGED THEIR STYLE. OR WHAT HAPPENED. ON PAPER IT LOOKED GOOD. BUT IT FLOPPED HARDER THAN VLADE DIVAC WOULD IN THE PLAYOFFS
^^^^IT WAS PROBABLY A COMBO OF BOTH. SPENDING YOUR MONEY WISELY SHOULD BE THE NUMBER ONE RULE 4 ANYONE WHO CONSIDERS THEMSELVES A REAL HUSTLER. A LOTTA PPL HAVE GOOD MUSIC,AND FINANCES 2 MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN BUT DONT UNDERSTAND THAT ITS EASY 2 WASTE BOTH OF THOSE IF U DONT HAVE CONNECTIONS AND SOME HUSTLE AND PASSION 2 REALLY PUSH A PROJECT.WHEN I FIRST GOT IN THE GAME,I NEVER WANTED 2 PROMOTE...NOW THATS ALL I WANT 2 DO.IT TAKES A GOOD PRODUCT 2 MAKE PROGRESS THO.NO NEED IN THINKIN ABOUT PLATINUM SALES...JUST MAKE A PLAN EACH YEAR AND BELIEVE IN YOURSELF SO THAT OTHER PPL WILL TOO
thats strange, i know off bat i would wanna promote my shit, and not look to some features to get my units sold
isnt it true that most rappers live off shows and merch and not cd sales?
its exposing yourself to the public that gets you known, or am i trippen?
i know i would love it if some of my favorite artists would be down to earth and in the public eye, shit i wouldnt mind smokin a blunt and chattin it up with a few, but understandably like tay is sayin, u gotta promote and to do that you gotta keep movin
isnt it true that most rappers live off shows and merch and not cd sales?
its exposing yourself to the public that gets you known, or am i trippen?
i know i would love it if some of my favorite artists would be down to earth and in the public eye, shit i wouldnt mind smokin a blunt and chattin it up with a few, but understandably like tay is sayin, u gotta promote and to do that you gotta keep movin