MeloTrauma said:
Hey NITRO...First of all, he was talking about me. He used the word "you" personalizing it as a failed attack against ME. And Ive stated time and time again that I am Mexican, which he failed to recognize, showing me that he doesnt read the posts and responses to his own babble.
I understand that, and that is where his error was in his "essay". However, he was speaking to YOU about the BLACK race. Sure, he was talking to you as if you were BLACK, but you not being so, doesn't change what he was saying. He wasnt saying that African Americans are *THIS* because of YOUR actions, he was typing out an observation of all African Americans IN GENERAL, not just you.
MeloTrauma said:
Second of all, if you gonna write that long of a reply, you better make it an intelligent one, otherwise you come off as whiny little bitch as he just did (which he accused me of being) just spouting off at the mouth. Since he didnt come correct , Im not gonna reply against his arguement since he's babbled the same shit before. Dudes proved to me how ignorant he is, and Im sick of all this fucking typing.
Agreed, an essay isn't much if it doesn't say anything.
MeloTrauma said:
Third, if you think "some of the most intelligent people in the world would find it difficult to write the same thing in fewer words" then I truly feel sorry for you, and I wish you the best following Epidemic as your scholar.
Scholar? My statements about an essay, had nothing to do with Epidemic. I was simply saying that people of great intelligence often write their thoughts in the form of long essays or books. It wasn't saying anything about what EpidemicReborn typed, rather the thought of someone writing an "essay" as being an idiot of some sort is obsurd.
MeloTrauma said:
What you fail to realize, as Ive stated over and over but yall cats dont want to listen to reason, is that WHITE PRIVILAGE will always be a factor in minorities being second class to white people AS A WHOLE. Of course there are gonna be some fucking exceptions - Colin Powell a powerful black man... Eminem a poor white guy in a black nieghborhood or whatever.
I DO REALIZE THAT. Im not trying to deminish the existance of what you just said, im just trying to help you guys understand it from more then just your perspective. WHITE people are always going to have an advantage in areas highly popluated by WHITE people, just as Mexicans are going to have an advantage in areas where they make up for a majority. This country is roughly 75% WHITE where most areas are dominant by WHITE people, which results in an "advantage" to those catagorized in the same racial class. How can you possibly blame WHITE people for being so highly poplulated in this country, because if the situation were reversed, do you think WHITE people would have it any easier in a BLACK population, then BLACK'S have it now?
NO! Blame the early Europeans for slaughtering so many people and taking this nation, not those their decendants who remain in power. African Americans didn't come from this country, they were stolen, bought and forced here. Well I didn't choose to be born into a country where I am classified into a catagory of humans who are portrayed as people who deny equal opportunity to others, hence my implication that generalizing the WHITE race is an important factor in racial discussions. So why am I to blame for any of this? You might say, "well your not" but then I will ask, what is it then, that seperates me, from the devilish racist WHITES who ARE to blame. Society fits me right in the mix, so I have no choice but to carry this burdon because of my skin color, just like African Americans have to endure their pain because of something that happened years ago, which was completely out of their hands. That's not to say the level of suffering is equal; what I have to live through (as far as the aftermath of what my ancestors did) is nowhere near that which an African American must go through, but we are living in TODAY, and I am NOTHING like my ancestors. So what im gathering from your posts is that, equal opportunity cannot exist, unless we can statistically equally deny or provide opportunity to others. I got this by your brushing off the hip-hop atmosphere, overwhelmed by African Americans, denying WHITE people as equals; this being only one area in which African Americans have an absolute advantage as opposed to NUMEROUS WHITE owned businesses and organizations where they can choose to whom they will provide opportunity to. With this said, is in not a ratio of the ability to accept or deny opportunity to another race that we're talking about here?
MeloTrauma said:
The fact is, if you are white you got it better in a country where EVERYBODY is supposed to be equal. Nobody wants to listen to that and I dont understand it. If everyone in this country is supposed to be equal, then why does the term MINORITY exist???
Yes if you are WHITE you have an advantage, statistically. It is common knowledge that any race of humans, racist or not, is going to treat their "own kind" differently then they would another. So the numbers are all were talking about here. This country is never going to be 25% Asian, 25% African American, 25% Mexican, and 25% "WHITE". The fact that this country is so highly popluated by WHITE'S, and that maybe even these WHITE'S treat themselves better then every other race, DOES NOT CHANGE the fact that African Americans and Mexicans are doing the EXACT SAME THING, just in smaller numbers.
MeloTrauma said:
You said, YOU CAN NOT GAIN EQUAL OPPORTUNTY IF YOU CAN NOT OFFER IT. That is some nerve based on the fact that the system (which is in fact ran by white people) has never allowed equal opportunity for those MINORITIES. To this day, people who do not understand the struggle are still trying to keep equal opportunity out of our hands.
You got it ass backwards. What are you basing your opinion on when discussing the lack of equal opportunity? The opportunity is there, you just have to take advantage. What can a BLACK man NOT do in this country, that a WHITE man can? I urge you to leave this kiddie "buy tan colored finger bandages" out the door, because I don't have time to waiste on shit like that. Ive had people say just that, so im asking you, be real.
MeloTrauma said:
This is the one thing where the tables can be turned. There is no equal opportunity for white people in rap music... boo fucking hoo. There is no equal opportunity for minorities in the entire world!
Prove it.