UFC 104 - Machida vs Shogun Oct 24

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Who will win??

  • Lyoto "The Dragon" Machida

    Votes: 35 71.4%
  • Mauricio "Shogun" Rua

    Votes: 14 28.6%

  • Total voters
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Nov 15, 2007
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i dont give a fuck im pissed alright i dont need a justifiable reason for saying fuck ufc right now! im bout to keep blowing up danas twitter... hes ganna have to block me cuzz im ganna put a endless assault on his twitter!!!!!!
 
Mar 18, 2003
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dude yer a fuckin retard. im sorry but i couldve watched that fight on mute and figured out who won it. i dont give two shits what joe fuckin rogan was saying. plain and simple shogun won the fight. no ifs ands or butts about it. no way he lost that shit
AND THOSE LEG KICKS SHUT MACHIDA DOWN FOR MOST OF THE FIGHT. WHAT DID MACHIDA DO? AND WHO FUCKING CARES WHAT JOE ROGAN SAYS, I DIDN'T NEED JOE ROGAN'S COMMENTARY TO KNOW WHO WON THE FIGHT.
SHOGUN WON, DUMBASS.
Did I or did I not clearly state that the point of my post was to say that Machida did not get his ass kicked. Are you both fucking retarded? Did I ever say he won? R-E-A-D.

READ.
 
Aug 31, 2003
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First off I want to say FUCK JOE ROGAN for being so hard on Shogun's nuts.

Now.. You have to look past the announcing, YOU HAVE TOO. They made it seem like Lyoto was getting murdered out there which is BULLSHIT. Dude, all Shogun did was kick his legs.. that is all, the entire fight. Lyoto did that and landed punches. The typical viewer of this fight will buy into what Rogan was saying but fuck that. The entire time he was talking about how amazing Shogun is, how he has a kid on the way, how after each and every kick "ANOTHER KICK OMFGZ@!@". Every time Rogan said that about one of Shoguns body kicks Lyoto was landing an overhand right to the jaw.

Are you guys serious?

All I am doing here is defending the fact that you guys think it was a no-brainer, that Lyoto got his ass kicked. DUMB.
This is faulty logic. No one in the audience could hear the announcing and they boo'd the decision heavily. Seems they thought it was a no brainer.

I scored the fight for Shogun but I don't think it was as bad a robbery as most of the people in this thread. There was a lot of close rounds, a lot of good counters on both sides and I wouldn't have been mad if it went either way.
 
Mar 18, 2003
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This is faulty logic. No one in the audience could hear the announcing and they boo'd the decision heavily. Seems they thought it was a no brainer.

I scored the fight for Shogun but I don't think it was as bad a robbery as most of the people in this thread. There was a lot of close rounds, a lot of good counters on both sides and I wouldn't have been mad if it went either way.
Shogun nullified Machida's MAIN TECHNIQUE (straight left counter) by landing leg and body kicks (and a couple of knees) before the left could get there. Machida wants to parry your measuring punch with his right and catch you with that straight left. Notice how in the 3rd or 4th round Machida realized that shit wasn't working so he switched stances. The only real solid punch he landed was a straight right in the 3rd or 4th and Shogun took it like it was nothing. Shit, they were icing his legs AFTER the first round. You have to assume they were ready for his legs to take a beating.

Even when Machida tried to throw his leaping knees, they did nothing and Shogun immediately clinched. It didn't look like either one of them got rocked but Shogun landed the more effective strikes and demonstrated more Octagon control imo
This sounds about right. Sounds like they watched the fight :cool:
 
Mar 18, 2003
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too bad your not standing next to me right now cuzz youd be the perfect person id want to fuck up right now...
LMAo! Are you one of those retards who thinks cause their fat they can throw down? I'm not going to lower myself but I will say this, your fat tub of lard ass won't be able to do shit when your limbs are snapped. HahHaH faggot. I'm done with you go eat some cheeseburgers.

wow... are u a white guy who had 3 too many natty lights and wearing your tapout shirt???? u sound like a faggg
HAhAHHAHA!
 
Dec 3, 2005
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taken from Sherdog forums:

That decisions was about as accurate as the Iranian elections

Shogun won, thats all there is to it. Look at both of them after the fight, Machida looks like he spent 3 years in afghanistan and Shogun looks like he spent 3 days in an asian massage parlour.

haha
 
Feb 12, 2004
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It's funny how none of that karate shit worked against a fighter with real muay thai skills. Immediate fucking rematch is demanded. Shogun is the true UFC light heavyweight champion. I love both Shogun and Machida, but this is the biggest bullshit in UFC history. I thought Bisping vs Hamill was bad, but this easily tops it.
 
Mar 18, 2003
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^Noooooo no no no. This pales in comparison to Bisping/Hamill, sorry. Shogun may have won this fight but it was not by much. The outcome IMO is not far removed from the Forest/Rampage result, which had everone [watching] in favor of Rampage. And the Karate may have not "worked" but it also didn't really fail him. I mean, without it, maybe he hits the mat in the first round.

My question to everyone is, why this result? I don't think the UFC in any way benefits from this because with Shogun as the winner you have a LHW title fight of Shogun vs. Silva which would bring in loads more attention and money as opposed to having Machida remain the champ and fight the next contender. Was it an error in judgement by ALL 3 officials? Is there something more to it?