Top Rank & Golden Boy agree to all terms - the fight is in floyds hands

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Like I said before 700,000 PPV buys, will not get Pac-Man a 50-50 split with Mayweather. Plus he has to beat up Stone-Hands better then old man Mosley already did.
The fight is going to sell. No doubt about it. If Manny Pacquiao could sell something like 700,000 ppv buys with a fighter like Clottey who is a virtual unknown, then it will be no problem to surpass those numbers fighting someone like Margarito, who himself has a fairly large following.
 
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Pac-man has never made a $20 million for a fight if I'm not mistaking. Mayweather made $20 million fighting Marquez and $35 million fighting Mosley. Mayweather could make another $20-30 million fighting Berto or P-Williams/Martinez. Mayweather is the cash-cow.. How many people was happy paying for the Cottley vs. Manny fight? I think that last boring fight will have a effect on the PPV numbers this time.
 
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honestly fuck how much these ppv's sale. What's the point in talking bout this now? All I care about is watching good fights, I don't care if Manny and Mayweather fight at this point also
 
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Pac-man has never made a $20 million for a fight if I'm not mistaking.
I believe he made $20 million against Clottey*. Also, he made $40 million from Oscar and Hatton combined. Not sure what he made against Cotto.



*the reason pac made so much against clottey is because the split was crazy, clottey only got $1 million from the purse (and later jerry jones gave clottey an extra $2 million because of the success from ticket sales).

Mayweather made $20 million fighting Marquez
Floyd actually got caught lying about that!! haha

and $35 million fighting Mosley. Mayweather could make another $20-30 million fighting Berto or P-Williams/Martinez. Mayweather is the cash-cow.. How many people was happy paying for the Cottley vs. Manny fight? I think that last boring fight will have a effect on the PPV numbers this time.
yeah floyd made bank against Mosley. The problem with your theory of floyd making $20+ million against Berto, PWill and Martinez is floyd isn't going to fight any of them.

So you really haven't even factored in the inactivity. While floyd is not fighting anyone, Pacquiao will be fresh in everyones memory after fighting Margarito. Floyd's inactivity will hurt himself. In other words, Pacquiao will be hot and floyd won't be.
 
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honestly fuck how much these ppv's sale. What's the point in talking bout this now? All I care about is watching good fights, I don't care if Manny and Mayweather fight at this point also
good point I don't even know why I'm wasting my time going over these irrelevant details. It seems to be some Floyd fans are more interested in debating who can sell the most PPV's then actual boxing!
 
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That's the piont i don't think this fight is going to be any good. Stone-Hands is damaged goods. A war with Cotto then in his very next fight he gets beat-up by Mosley for 10rounds. This is not going to be a good fight this is going to be a one-sided beating by Manny. I don't think the inactivity will effect Mayweather at all. He's been doing this for four years already. My question is if Mosley is a washed up old man and he killed Stone-hands. What does that make Stone-Hands in you guys eyes??
 
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right, you've already said that a number of times though. I'm not debating with you if it's going to be a good fight or not, we were talking about if people will watch the PPV.

As for your question about Mosley and Margarito, that fight was almost 2 years ago so I don't see how it's very relevant.

As for inactivity hurting floyd or not, it's a dangerous game for floyd to be playing. You cant beat old age, the only question is when is it going to come. The first thing to go for a boxer is his reflexes and for a fighter like floyd who relies so heavily on his cat-like reflexes, that could be his ass.

Look at Roy Jones motherfucker was superman until he hit 34 years of age and once he hit 34 it was all downhill from there. He went from NEVER LOSING a fight legitimately, to getting knocked out back-to-back in the same year, and losing 6 out of 10 fights since.
 
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Margarito is not damaged goods he has what 2 losses, only took one ass beating. Your smoking rocks. By your logic, Manny should be in a wheel chair by now
 
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Go back and watch the Cotto fight, then the Mosley fight. Then watch how slow he is and how gun shy he is in his last fight. Dude is done. Mosley was hitting him with about 40% of his power shots for 10 rounds. Stone-Hands is done. Stop trying to sell people on this bum. This should be target practice for Manny. No one want to answer the questions still? If Mosley the washed up shot old man beat the brakes off dude, why should Manny have any problems with dude? I get it if you say that Mosley was good then that will make the Mayweather boxing lesson look even better. LOL..
 
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If Mayweather was to fight Cotto or Stone-Hands there would be five threads made talking about him beating up on damaged fighters. If a over the hill Mosley KO'ed dude then why should a prime Manny not do the same? You give Pac-man credit for beating up Cotto but you discredit the Mayweather win, by calling Mosley old and washed up. The old washed Mosley KO'ed the guy that took Cotto's 0 away.
 
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If Floyd offered to fight Pacquiao a fight in novemeber, and Pacquiao said "I'm on vacation, I'm not even thinking about boxing" then floyd fought Cotto or Margarito, everyone would be talking shit about Pacquiao and Floyd would be fighting the next best/biggest opponent.

I understand YOU don't like Margarito vs Pacquiao, but blame Floyd for that man. Pac wanted teh fight, in fact he still wants floyd and has yet to sign the contract with margarito
 
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I wouldn't be saying anything it's Pac-Man's choice. Manny already turned down the 1st Mayweather fight so no big deal to me. Berto, P-Williams/Martinez, or even Mosley is the next in line not no damn Stone-Hands. Mayweather fought and beat the real 147lb champion already.
 
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Sorry pimpin I'm not Tony . I see all the comments but I have yet to have my question answered. Rumpelstiltskin, Ucdgreek, and Jreezelle answer the question. I want to hear the logic behind you guys line of thinking. Before Cotto fought Pac-man he had a war with Stone-Hands a KO loss, then in his next fight he had a war with Cottley a decision win. Mosley last two fights before Mayweather, KO win over Mayorga and a KO win over Stone-Hands. Why does Mayweather get no credit for beating up Mosley but Pac-Man gets credit for beating up Cotto? Now this is not hard folks don't dodge the question with a silly comment just explain your logic behind your answer to the question at hand. I'll be waiting..
 
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Before Cotto fought Pac-man he had a war with Stone-Hands a KO loss, then in his next fight he had a war with Cottley a decision win. Mosley last two fights before Mayweather, KO win over Mayorga and a KO win over Stone-Hands. Why does Mayweather get no credit for beating up Mosley but Pac-Man gets credit for beating up Cotto? Now this is not hard folks don't dodge the question with a silly comment just explain your logic behind your answer to the question at hand. I'll be waiting..
Who is not giving credit for beating Mosley? Floyd does get credit.

Technically, you left out the fact that Mosley lost to Cotto, beat Mayorga which means nothing and on top of that looked pretty bad against him up until the final round and had a year and a half layoff before fighting floyd. Still he gets credit but you left that shit out while criticizing pacquiao which only makes it more obvious how biased you are.

Still you fail to realize that Pacquiao was a 135 pound fighter only a year ago. He is NOT the same size as floyd, who has been a 147 pounder for 6 years now. What Pac has done, gone from 130 to 147 in a year and a half, and beat the top guys, is impressive

Mayweather has a great win over Mosley. That's it in three years. Pac has had great wins for the past several years now.

Both are great fighters.
Both are the best in the sport.
They need to fight eachother.

What else is there to debate? Fight and prove who's the best. That's it.