First off I'm pointing out how dumb you guys sounds calling Mosley old and washed up. Second off Mosley loss a close 12rd decision in New York the day before the Puerto Rico day parade. Can we agree that Pac-Man has a pattern of fighting people after they got beat up two fights before he fights them. Cotto, Hatton, and now Stone Hands all have gotten beating up badly before they fought Pac-Man? Now tell me I'm lying??
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I give Floyd credit for beating Mosley. I never down played it.
When you compare it to Manny's win over Cotto here is what you have, and I will keep it simple.
Floyd fights an older fighter. When I say old I dont mean washed up, I mean his prime was back in at the turn of 2000 or so. He was ripping peoples heads off back in 98. That was 12 years ago.
Floyd wins a stay back and dance, I almost got put into a coma in the 2nd round, jab jab pot shot fight.
OK, cool, great, yay, points for Floyd, whatever you want to do. Throw confetti in the air for all I care.
Manny moves UP in weight, essentially fighting an undefeated fighter. An olympic medalist. Somoene who beat Mosley. Not only wins but runs through him like a freight train hitting a shopping cart and gets the stoppage.
Can't blame Floyd for being a little scurred...
Hatton?
What about him.
Floyd couldn't KO Hatton in the second round if you gave him forty chances.
Margarito?
Manny hasn't even fought him yet, so it's irrelevant.
Floyd picks on people like Brusseles and Baldomir.
/thread.
When you compare it to Manny's win over Cotto here is what you have, and I will keep it simple.
Floyd fights an older fighter. When I say old I dont mean washed up, I mean his prime was back in at the turn of 2000 or so. He was ripping peoples heads off back in 98. That was 12 years ago.
Floyd wins a stay back and dance, I almost got put into a coma in the 2nd round, jab jab pot shot fight.
OK, cool, great, yay, points for Floyd, whatever you want to do. Throw confetti in the air for all I care.
Manny moves UP in weight, essentially fighting an undefeated fighter. An olympic medalist. Somoene who beat Mosley. Not only wins but runs through him like a freight train hitting a shopping cart and gets the stoppage.
Can't blame Floyd for being a little scurred...
Hatton?
What about him.
Floyd couldn't KO Hatton in the second round if you gave him forty chances.
Margarito?
Manny hasn't even fought him yet, so it's irrelevant.
Floyd picks on people like Brusseles and Baldomir.
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Why do you keep saying "you guys" when I clearly give Floyd props for beating Mosley?
All of those fighters mentioned were coming off of wins when they fought Pacquiao.
Cotto beat Clottey before fighting Pac.
Hatton beat Juan Lazcano & Paul Malignaggi before Pac.
Margarito beat Roberto Garcia.
Again, it's hypercritical to say that about Pacquiao when floyd fought:
Zab Judah who was coming off a loss to Baldimor
Oscar (who lost to hopkins before beating Mayorga)
Sharmba Mitchwell (who lost to Kostya Tszyu before beating Chris Smith)
etc
So what's the difference? Not everyone in boxing in undefeated.
All of those fighters mentioned were coming off of wins when they fought Pacquiao.
Cotto beat Clottey before fighting Pac.
Hatton beat Juan Lazcano & Paul Malignaggi before Pac.
Margarito beat Roberto Garcia.
Again, it's hypercritical to say that about Pacquiao when floyd fought:
Zab Judah who was coming off a loss to Baldimor
Oscar (who lost to hopkins before beating Mayorga)
Sharmba Mitchwell (who lost to Kostya Tszyu before beating Chris Smith)
etc
So what's the difference? Not everyone in boxing in undefeated.
Rumpelstiltskin I wanted to see your logic, and you need to go back and watch some more boxing before you talk again. First off Cotto was not undefeated he was just coming off a hard fought 12rd decision won against Cottley. A fight in which he was cut and bleeding most of the fight and was getting beat up. The fight before that Stone-Hands beat the brakes off Cotto to give him his first loss. Stone-Hands beat Cotto first, then Mosley beat Stone-Hands, The very same man that beat up Cotto before Manny. So how does Pac-Man beating Cotto at 145lb mean more then Mayweather beating Mosley. 2-0-Sixx read my brother, I clearly stated two fights after they get beat up, then Pac-Man puts the nail in coffin and all his fans act like it's the greatest thing in the world. I can't wait until Mayweather put a beating on dude, just because I'm sick of his boxing dumb fans. I can throw names out there to make myself look like I know what I'm talking about. Pac-Man fought Jorge Solis, Hector Velazquez, Fahsan Por Thawatchai, and David Daiz they all suck. You guys have the logic of some hater.. I mean you people can't even admit that Cotto was damaged goods before he fought with Pac-Man. But I'm the one that don't know boxing?? If you like the all action style of Pac-man cool, said that then I like watching his fights too, but I'm sick of his boxing dumb fans trying to discredit Mayweathers 41-0.
I follow this sport religiously. I would think every week for the last 22 years would be enough, but I guess not.
I said Cotto was essentially an undefeated fighter. His only loss was to Margarito and I don't think it was a legitimate one. Clottey has nothing to do with it. He didn't lose to Clottey. Just because he was bleeding means he's shot? Cotto has always bled.
You want to talk about fighting shot out fighters.
Mayweather ducked Tsyzu who was the undisputed champ, and took a fight against Arturo Gatti after he had 3 wars with Ward.
Then he pissed his pants when people were like Margarito and Cotto started to rise, so he went on WWE with Vince and the Big Show.
Your arguments are as of late. You need to dig deep into Floyds career to realize he's pulled shit like this his entire life. This isn't a news flash. Manny is probably the 5th or 6th champ he's done it to. I don't really expect this fight to materialize, at all.
I said Cotto was essentially an undefeated fighter. His only loss was to Margarito and I don't think it was a legitimate one. Clottey has nothing to do with it. He didn't lose to Clottey. Just because he was bleeding means he's shot? Cotto has always bled.
You want to talk about fighting shot out fighters.
Mayweather ducked Tsyzu who was the undisputed champ, and took a fight against Arturo Gatti after he had 3 wars with Ward.
Then he pissed his pants when people were like Margarito and Cotto started to rise, so he went on WWE with Vince and the Big Show.
Your arguments are as of late. You need to dig deep into Floyds career to realize he's pulled shit like this his entire life. This isn't a news flash. Manny is probably the 5th or 6th champ he's done it to. I don't really expect this fight to materialize, at all.
Cotto wasnt the same fighter after the Margarito fight, I will say that much. Its been talked about numerous times and we are not getting any where. that Gatti fight is really what turned things around for Mayweather, he wasnt really that popular before that and after that he pretty much called the shots and fought more known fighters at the time after that. Cotto and Margarito werent even popular till like 2008 which is after Mayweather was only fighting big money fights. One can make the argument Manny has fought all his opponents that were coming off losses, who cares? One can also say Mayweather is a gutless chicken, for someone thats never been knocked down i seriously doubt he is.
I dont know why im even commenting on this shit anymore but i still think folks need to find someone thats not so good of a fighter to hate cuz Mayweathers gonna make you mad everytime he comes away with that W
I dont know why im even commenting on this shit anymore but i still think folks need to find someone thats not so good of a fighter to hate cuz Mayweathers gonna make you mad everytime he comes away with that W
I only get mad because I know he is capable of so much more and he's cutting himself short. He can easily prove he is the best P4P fighter, and he could have stood on top for a decade without anyone being able to question anything. The thing is, he just never took advantage of his opportunities.
He can get in the ring and school Manny, but he isn't doing it.
He can get in the ring and school Manny, but he isn't doing it.
^^^ Your obviously not who im talking about then, I think 2-0 made a great point in that Floyd is not getting any younger and his boxing skills can only diminish and hes not helping himself in any way by fighting only once a year and Manny getting into wars with other fighters before fighting Mayweather isnt favoring Floyd like some people think. Seems to me Mayweather didnt want to go through Golden Boy and theres already a set fight for Manny although he hasnt signed so its pretty much guaranteed that the fight wouldnt happen till some time next year.
Thank you T-Rip you my friend know your boxing. Gatti, Hatton, and De La Hoya was all for the money and fame. The Gatti fight was start of the shit talking 'Money' Mayweather era. Mayweather is getting old that's why he trying to cash out on this Pac-Man fight. T-Rip who you got winning Dawson vs Pascal?
This is 100% untrue. Tsyzu was littered with injuries during the time Mayweather moved up to 140lbs. Tsyzu was fighting like once a year at the time and fought Mitchell (I think don't feel like looking it up) in a comeback fight, stayed out for some time then got mugged by Hatton. There was no ducking here..
I think people have gotten to the point where they just throw out random names to who Mayweather has ducked now.
I think people have gotten to the point where they just throw out random names to who Mayweather has ducked now.
People were asking for him to fight Kostya before the injuries. He didn't want to move up and unify. He was happy fighting Phillip N'dou and the likes.
Kostya murdered Mitchell. THEN Floyd fought Mitchell after that.
After Hatton beat Kostya, Floyd refused to fight Hatton because he said it would be a wrestling match. He waits 5 years plus makes Hatton move up again after seeing he wasn't any good at 147 and accepts the fight.
The guy is a riddle and has been doing little shady things like this his entire career. He's a little jive talker.
Never once has he had the "you want some, come get some" attitude.
Which makes a true peoples champion.
Kostya murdered Mitchell. THEN Floyd fought Mitchell after that.
After Hatton beat Kostya, Floyd refused to fight Hatton because he said it would be a wrestling match. He waits 5 years plus makes Hatton move up again after seeing he wasn't any good at 147 and accepts the fight.
The guy is a riddle and has been doing little shady things like this his entire career. He's a little jive talker.
Never once has he had the "you want some, come get some" attitude.
Which makes a true peoples champion.