@Fatal, man you stay runnin'.... I remember we were supposed to go head up on Madden (on the 360, I was going to smash you on my sons) and you said your 360 was broken. LOL.... and you get on Floyd for running and making up excuses. Just admit it, you're not trying to bet nothing. You're part of Floyd's hatebase.
Top Rank & Golden Boy agree to all terms - the fight is in floyds hands
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Actually, my 360 is STILL broken. I even showed your ass pictures of that shit! LOL. I'm probably gonna cop the Slim when Madden 11 drops. But, when are you gonna realize it's a VIDEO GAME? Even if we played and you won, what the fuck would that prove? That you jock a game more than I do? Congrats on that, I guess.
hey tony & bigface do ya'll realize there are fights coming up this weekend or is floyd-pac all you're going to talk about? lol seriously if floyd & pac fight it's not going to be next year so this debate can go on forever.
I'm going to bump my August boxing thread and I want ya'll to talk about somethin else!
I'm going to bump my August boxing thread and I want ya'll to talk about somethin else!
2-0-Sixx Barrera vs Morales 2000, 2002, 2004. Barrera vs. Hamed Naseem 2001, 1st Pac-man vs Morales 2004 and Morales won, 2005 Zahir Raheem out boxed Morales with no problem because he was damaged goods by then. Barrera vs Pac-man 2003 damaged goods after the 2nd fight with Morales . By the way Kevin Kelley was washed up by 2003 already had been KO'ed by Naseem. Try again Fam all damaged goods. Not one prime fighter yet. Do you guys actually watch the fights or do you go by what HBO tells you?? Now do you guys get my point? Pac-man fights only damaged fighters.
hold up. Raheem beat Morales because he was damaged goods?? Try he beat him becaues he was better than morales at the time.
as for the rest of the post you sound like manuel perez now. cant give him credit at all.
It's only going to hurt your cause even further after floyd loses to "overrated" pacquiao innit?
It's like when Floyd called Arturo Gatti a C class fighter leading up to their fight. What good does it do when you downgrade your opponent? Floyd also said shane was too old leading up to his fight with him. smh
as for the rest of the post you sound like manuel perez now. cant give him credit at all.
It's only going to hurt your cause even further after floyd loses to "overrated" pacquiao innit?
It's like when Floyd called Arturo Gatti a C class fighter leading up to their fight. What good does it do when you downgrade your opponent? Floyd also said shane was too old leading up to his fight with him. smh
Tony. You see me prove my point with facts, fight records, and fight dates. Yes, Manny does have a lot of good names on his resume but none was in there prime. No one can deny that 2 out of his last three fights have been against damaged fighters with a good name Hatton and Cotto. So please tell me what point was proving to me?? Go check the facts for yourself the fights are all on youtube for all to see.
why is that hatton was damaged goods? Because he lost to Floyd? Shit, Hatton actually won four rounds against Floyd and again, it was at a higher weight class he never should have been at in the first place. He didn't take a beating, he got hit with the perfect shot from floyd (the check hook) that sent him in to the turnbuckle (lol). Further, after Floyd, and before Pac, he had one of the best performances of his career against Paulie M. Pac simply fucked hatton up, had nothing to do with him being "damaged" and more to do with the fact that Hatton's style is all wrong for pac and two, pac is simply light years ahead of hatton as far as skills go.
As I already said, MAB & Morales were 28 & 29 years old. You cannot say there were done or damaged simply because they had a couple wars. If the same rule applies then Gatti was LONG washed up prior to floyd mayweather. Further, Roberto Duran had plenty of wars, lost brutally by KO, and yet continued to go up in weight and captured belts all the way up to light heavyweight. So again your logic doesn't hold any water.
Basically what it comes down to is that you are trying to discredit every single win of Pacquiao's career and refuse to give him any credit. That sir is haterism.
At least I give floyd his props and say he's the top two fighter in the world and acknowledge his accomplishments. My only problem with Floyd as a fighter is his lack of fighting spirit and willingness to take challenges.
As I already said, MAB & Morales were 28 & 29 years old. You cannot say there were done or damaged simply because they had a couple wars. If the same rule applies then Gatti was LONG washed up prior to floyd mayweather. Further, Roberto Duran had plenty of wars, lost brutally by KO, and yet continued to go up in weight and captured belts all the way up to light heavyweight. So again your logic doesn't hold any water.
Basically what it comes down to is that you are trying to discredit every single win of Pacquiao's career and refuse to give him any credit. That sir is haterism.
At least I give floyd his props and say he's the top two fighter in the world and acknowledge his accomplishments. My only problem with Floyd as a fighter is his lack of fighting spirit and willingness to take challenges.
Barrera was damaged goods after the 2nd Morales fight? Didn't he go on to win multiple titles in the division after he lost to Pacquiao? Wasn't Pacquiao a heavy underdog going into the ring with Barrera?
Ricky Hatton was still the LINEAL champion in the division and had just hand delivered a clubbing to the universally ranked #1 contender to his 140lb title.
Miguel Cotto I already explained even though none of the guys he beat meet up to your standards and his career isn't over yet.
Ricky Hatton was still the LINEAL champion in the division and had just hand delivered a clubbing to the universally ranked #1 contender to his 140lb title.
Miguel Cotto I already explained even though none of the guys he beat meet up to your standards and his career isn't over yet.
Diego Corrales wasn't in his prime, having just been released from prison and complaining of flu like symptons BEFORE the fight.
Oscar De La Hoya wasn't in his prime, and many people think he could have earned a victory in that fight (not me, just saying).
Ricky Hatton was a perfect style for Floyd...straight ahead, no defense...but, wait...that's only a negative if Manny is fighting him, right?
Jose Luis Castillo BEAT Floyd in their first fight, IMO. Obviously, Floyd got the victory, but if you think Floyd won that fight, you're in the minority.
You keep mentioning Marquez, like anyone's going to forget that Marquez is a 130-135 lb fighter...who went up 12 lbs, to fight Floyd, who wouldn't even make weight...like that $600,000 he paid made up for the weight during the fight. LOL
Floyd is the "KING OF THE WORLD"...yet won't fight any top fighters in his OWN DIVISION.
So, if you want to question Manny's record, or Cotto's record...and diminish their resume...take a close look at who Floyd DIDN'T FIGHT. There's an even MORE IMPRESSIVE list than who he DID FIGHT.
Oscar De La Hoya wasn't in his prime, and many people think he could have earned a victory in that fight (not me, just saying).
Ricky Hatton was a perfect style for Floyd...straight ahead, no defense...but, wait...that's only a negative if Manny is fighting him, right?
Jose Luis Castillo BEAT Floyd in their first fight, IMO. Obviously, Floyd got the victory, but if you think Floyd won that fight, you're in the minority.
You keep mentioning Marquez, like anyone's going to forget that Marquez is a 130-135 lb fighter...who went up 12 lbs, to fight Floyd, who wouldn't even make weight...like that $600,000 he paid made up for the weight during the fight. LOL
Floyd is the "KING OF THE WORLD"...yet won't fight any top fighters in his OWN DIVISION.
So, if you want to question Manny's record, or Cotto's record...and diminish their resume...take a close look at who Floyd DIDN'T FIGHT. There's an even MORE IMPRESSIVE list than who he DID FIGHT.
ROFL
Tony, I'm not even trying to be funny. Your logic is stupid. You obviously are a moron. M.O.R.O.N.
BOTTOM LINE: MANNY is at the top of ANY DIVISION, alongside FLOYD. FIGHT EACH OTHER. YOU cry like a bitch about Manny dodging the fight in March...but it's cool for Floyd to ''take a vacation''...HYPOCRITE.
Tony, I'm not even trying to be funny. Your logic is stupid. You obviously are a moron. M.O.R.O.N.
BOTTOM LINE: MANNY is at the top of ANY DIVISION, alongside FLOYD. FIGHT EACH OTHER. YOU cry like a bitch about Manny dodging the fight in March...but it's cool for Floyd to ''take a vacation''...HYPOCRITE.
Why didn't Floyd fight Marquez @ 135?
Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? So does Marquez trying to fight at the weight they did.
You can't have it both ways. You've been crying through this whole thread (and others) about the ''floyd hate''...but if you'd take his dick out of your asshole, you'd realize that you're not ''keepin it real, hatin nathan'', you're hating Manny, and making love to Floyd.
Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? So does Marquez trying to fight at the weight they did.
You can't have it both ways. You've been crying through this whole thread (and others) about the ''floyd hate''...but if you'd take his dick out of your asshole, you'd realize that you're not ''keepin it real, hatin nathan'', you're hating Manny, and making love to Floyd.
How many times do I have to tell you that Corrales went to prison "AFTER" he fought Mayweather? Who steps right out of prison and into a ring for a championship fight? You gotta lotta nerve calling me a moron. And Corrales was in his prime with an undefeated record so stop trying to take away credit from Money Mayweather!
You're absolutely correct about the prison sentence coming after the fight; the legal battle was already going on before the fight. Leading up to the fight, 2-3 days before, EVERYONE who was following the fight had heard about Corrales having the flu. They even did an interview with Michelle Corrales, his widow, who spoke about it.