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EDJ

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NITRO,
gO TO THE HOOD WITH YOUR LOgIC. gO TO A PREDOMINANT BLAK COMMUNITY WITH IT. IN A PERFECT SOCIETY, YOU HAVE A POINT, BUT LIKE I TOLD YOU TIME AND AgAIN, THE PLAYIN' FIELD AIN'T EVEN AND THE TABLES AIN'T EVEN CLOSE TO BEIN' TURNED. SO YOUR PREJUDICE AFFECTS ME MORE THAN ME CALLIN' YOU NAME CAUSE OF REACTIONS.
 

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deep shit being said here.


However, how the fuck do you shut down a country for maintenance. You must ride the small bus with a helmet on because you are retarded.
 
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Nitro the Guru said:
The words origin does not matter, it is HOW and WHY they are used towards other people.
Ok, I can agree with this comrade for the word "cracker."

EDJ posted a link to an article written by a white man discussing some of these "racist" words used against whites. He says how the term cracker is comical. I agree. It does not come close to any other racist term (nigger, chink, spic, etc.) and when it's used against a white, what exactly does it mean? It's a joke really.

But I suppose since it is related to race it can be considered racist.

The term "redneck" is arguable. It is usually used towards those of a certain class as you said, and in often times is aimed at non-white people to accredit them into the said class. Stereotypically, someone owning a shotgun, wearing a bandana, rundown house-clothes, with little regards to their appearance etc. But when used to degrade a white person, it is in fact a racist term.
Redneck is not racist. It's used by whites against whites, usually describing "poor white trash" or someone born in the south.
 

I AM

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EDJ said:
SO YOUR PREJUDICE AFFECTS ME MORE THAN ME CALLIN' YOU NAME CAUSE OF REACTIONS.

I know you weren't talking to me but it's cause you let it effect you. A racist remark is a racist remark, I dunno if he would actually call you anything but adopt my, "I dont' give a fuck what you say cause the reason you're saying it is because you have issues" idea.

The tables might not be turned, but they shouldn't be. Just cause one group is oppressed doesnt' mean they should do it to the others that did it to them. That causes unnecessary conflict (in some cases, others it may be justified).

But yeah, one white person having a prejudice against one black person is just the same as one black person having a prejudice again one white person. Just cause of the words used and the fact that "people of color" have been oppressed doesn't make anything less or more racist. Racism is racism, doesn't matter what race you are. It's no different if you call an Asian a racial slur versus a white person. There might be to you, but that's on you to figure out how you feel about the world....And then you'll act accordling to what you feel/believe, you just seem to have had to deal with some major douche bags in your time so your opinion is different than some, which is fine cause that's you. I just think sometimes people in general on here need to worry about themselves more so than what others have to say to them or about what they said....It's the internet, most people haven't met, which is why I dont' really take shit personal.
 

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2-0-Sixx said:
Redneck is not racist. It's used by whites against whites, usually describing "poor white trash" or someone born in the south.

That's more of an issue with social class than anything.
 

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@EDJ, I read the link when you asked me to earlier. And it only effects you becasue you react to it. If you didn't get mad or insulted every time someone brought up race then people would stop thinking of you as the guy that always talks abotu race issues and won't ever quit. It's pointless to debate with some people because they dont' even try to look at it from any perspective but their own. The funny thing is, I've been discriminated against by EVERY race. Whites, blacks, etc. Some white people think I'm mixed so they act funny, I've been called a nigger before. Just cause people don't know I'm almost all white doesn't mean anything, it's still an "insult." I get where you're coming from.....But sometimes its more worth it to just not say shit because some people aren't worth talking to (sometimes things go around in circles, which is the case with most debates on here).

@2-0-Sixx....I know, I was kind of just agreeing and repeating so people could see it in different words (some people have problems getting past certain word choice).
 
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Fridge said:
And as far as the term Cracka goes, I heard it came from 'Whipcracker' from the slave days... any truth to that?
I always thought it was started by whites...

From Wikipedia:

There are various theories about the origin of the term "cracker." The term has been traced to the 1760s, when it was used by the Earl of Dartmouth to refer to frontiersmen who were "great boasters." It may be derived from the Gaelic "craic,"1 meaning "entertaining conversation." (One may be said to "'crack' a joke".)

There are also similarities to the Irish Gaelic word carraig, and the Scottish Gaelic word creag for "rock", which are both pronounced with a hard /k/ at the end. For example, the anglicization of this Irish term for "rock" is "carrick."

A folk etymology claims the term cracker originated from piney-woods Georgia and Florida pastoral yeomen's use of whips to drive cattle. The word then came to be associated with the cattlemen of Georgia and Florida.

Other theories include references to cracking a whip over oxen when driving cotton to market, the 18th century practice of cracking corn to make liquor, or to poor whites having had to crack their grain because they couldn't afford to take it to the local mill to have it ground. Others suggest that "cracker" derives from the white overseers who cracked the whip to intimidate black slaves. There may also be another possible origin - the first residents of Georgia were British convicts. In this setting the word takes on an illegal or criminal context. The term was used by Charles Darwin in The Origin of Species to refer to "Virginia squatters" (illegal settlers).

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In recent years (as of 2006), the term has gained some currency as a proud or jocular self-description. With the huge influx of new residents from the North, the term "cracker" is now used informally by some white residents of Florida and Georgia ("Florida cracker" or "Georgia cracker") to indicate that their family has lived there for many generations.
 
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ASCE said:
how the fuck do you shut down a country for maintenance. You must ride the small bus with a helmet on because you are retarded.
How the fuck do you enter a thread and question a hypothetical situation meant to encourage dialogue? Whats next--you gonna run into the Sports Entertainment forum and start making threads about how wrestling is fake?

Stop being an attention whore.
 

EDJ

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FRIDgE,
WHAT THE FUK YOU TALKIN' BOUT?

SIXXNESS,
IT'S STILL IN ONE EAR AND OUT THE OTHER. THIS IS A WHITEMANS WORLD. ALL THAT PERSONAL SHIT YOU TALKIN' BOUT IS NICE AND DANDY, BUT I'M TALKIN' BOUT RACISM=PREJUDICE+POWER.

AND IT'S BEEN AWHILE SINCE I DID TALK ABOUT IT. I'VE BEEN ABSENT OR JUST AIN'T SAID TOO MUCH ABOUT THAT, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN OLD POSTERS COME BAK TRYIN' TO TRIP ON ME CAUSE SOME BUJEE ASS NIgKA gETS CALLED ONE.
 

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I get what you're saying. And overall, I do agree with you. But not all white people are for the "white man" if you get what I mean. And being preemtively rude to them won't help anyone's cause. I haven't seen more than a couple people drop an N bomb on here, but I have seen a lot more comments about white people when the vast majority of them don't make racial comments on here ever.
 

EDJ

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SIXXNESS,
I WONDER WHY? MAYBE IT'S CAUSE...................


























































.......................................IT'S A RAP MESSAgE BOARD, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE A HAVEN FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME, AND ABOUT THE CULTURE AND MUSIC. OR MAYBE NOT. 99.9% SAYS IT AIN'T.