The Thing That Seperates Christianity From Other Religions...

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Okay, so I think it was mexcancommando that was asking me about ethics...Funny thing is, your religion has ethics too...

The philosophical foundations of moral theory:

The Greek Connection
The Judeo-Christian Ethic
Kant and Moral Duty
The Appeal of Utilitarianism
The Ethics of Egalitarianism
The Rise of Relativism

Ethical Theories in Moral Reasoning:

Deontological (Duty-Based) Theories
Teleological (Consequence-Based) Theories
Virtue Theories: Aristotle's Golden Mean
 
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Miggidy - what's wrong with Islam? As a Muslim I take offense to that. I believe in Jesus, but not as the son of God, but as a Prohpet, like Mohammad was. That's all Muslims see Mohammed as, a Prophet. He recieved the divine word from Allah (btw Allah is the same thing as one God, Allah isn't a different kind of God, God is God, there is only one), just like Jesus recieved divine words.

Don't attack a different religion because you don't believe in it. I'm not Christian but I don't hate, better to have someone who believes in God than an athiest if you ask me. Looking forward to your reply....
 

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mattjoke said:
Miggidy - what's wrong with Islam? As a Muslim I take offense to that. I believe in Jesus, but not as the son of God, but as a Prohpet, like Mohammad was. That's all Muslims see Mohammed as, a Prophet. He recieved the divine word from Allah (btw Allah is the same thing as one God, Allah isn't a different kind of God, God is God, there is only one), just like Jesus recieved divine words.

Don't attack a different religion because you don't believe in it. I'm not Christian but I don't hate, better to have someone who believes in God than an athiest if you ask me. Looking forward to your reply....

but christians do hate people that aren't their religion... didn't you get that memo?

how else do you explain the crusades, inquisition, the killing and forcing of muslims out of iberia, the conquest of the new world... i could go on and on
 
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mattjoke said:
Miggidy - what's wrong with Islam? As a Muslim I take offense to that. I believe in Jesus, but not as the son of God, but as a Prohpet, like Mohammad was. That's all Muslims see Mohammed as, a Prophet. He recieved the divine word from Allah (btw Allah is the same thing as one God, Allah isn't a different kind of God, God is God, there is only one), just like Jesus recieved divine words.

Don't attack a different religion because you don't believe in it. I'm not Christian but I don't hate, better to have someone who believes in God than an athiest if you ask me. Looking forward to your reply....
Everything was going just perfectly fine until you said, "better to have someone who believes in God than an athiest "

Now why do you have to say that? So, if there is a religion that believes its ok to have sex with little kids, you would say thats better then being atheist?

Think people, think.
 
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mattjoke said:
Miggidy - what's wrong with Islam? As a Muslim I take offense to that. I believe in Jesus, but not as the son of God, but as a Prohpet, like Mohammad was. That's all Muslims see Mohammed as, a Prophet. He recieved the divine word from Allah (btw Allah is the same thing as one God, Allah isn't a different kind of God, God is God, there is only one), just like Jesus recieved divine words.

Don't attack a different religion because you don't believe in it. I'm not Christian but I don't hate, better to have someone who believes in God than an athiest if you ask me. Looking forward to your reply....
Sorry bro, I'm not trying to offend anyone, its just that shep's playing both sides of the field....

I'm not attacking Islam, I know its a touchy subject but its hard to speak against it when folks take it to the heart.

If you want to discuss why I view Islam the way I do,
I am open to that, just don't take it personal.

Like you said, we both believe in a higher power. We have more in common with those who don't so I'd like to focus my attention on those who are controlled by their egos....

Peace,
Miggidy
 
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shep said:
but christians do hate people that aren't their religion... didn't you get that memo?
Ignorance, Jesus teaches not to hate. So how is it that his followers hate other people?
The moment they hate someone is the same moment they hate Jesus....

shep said:
how else do you explain the crusades, inquisition, the killing and forcing of muslims out of iberia, the conquest of the new world... i could go on and on
The crusaders used the bible in an attempt to cover up their evil deeds. Do you really think they took over Jerusalem to rid it of the Muslims? The fuckers even killed the few Jews and Christians that were there as well. They were after the Ark of the Covenant....
The Spanish inquisition? They were no different, they stole all of the Aztec treasures they could find. And they killed them because they were so-called savages LOL!

What else are you going to blame on Christians man?
What's funny is that no one preached as much peace and loving as Jesus did,
yet muthafuckas have managed to dirty his image.
Hmmmm.... I wonder why?
So much focus on a crazy ordinary man....
I wonder why.....
:hurt:

Through out history, we've seen a world wide attempt to vilify his name.
If he was just a simple man, why such an effort to discredit Him?
 

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This is why our species will not evolve. People can't think rationally. We are not atheist because of ego, if anything it is lack of ego. The religious however think they only they are correct in their beliefs, so WHO HAS THE FUCKING EGO PROBLEM NOW?
 
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Sixxness said:
Okay, so I think it was mexcancommando that was asking me about ethics...Funny thing is, your religion has ethics too...

The philosophical foundations of moral theory:

The Greek Connection
The Judeo-Christian Ethic
Kant and Moral Duty
The Appeal of Utilitarianism
The Ethics of Egalitarianism
The Rise of Relativism

Ethical Theories in Moral Reasoning:

Deontological (Duty-Based) Theories
Teleological (Consequence-Based) Theories
Virtue Theories: Aristotle's Golden Mean
I think you're mistaken. I never asked you about ethics. We were talking about 'general accepted ethics' or some other name you gave it. You told me how we have some general sense of ethics and i told you we don't because no one think's the same and because of this it cannot be generalized. I never said my religion doesn't have ethics. Infact the teachings or Christ are ethics.
 
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miggidy said:
People will believe what they want to believe but the biggest difference between Jesus' philosophy and every other religion is His emphasis in love.
What other religion tells you to love thy enemy?

what about buddhism and hinduism?

me im not religious, i never went to churchh every week...how can you believers believe that god himself wrtote the bible, why should he do that?''lmao
 

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where's the LOVE in the OT? you got incest, rape, murder..... doesn't sound like love to me.... and god told people to do these things.
 
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what about buddhism and hinduism?

me im not religious, i never went to churchh every week...how can you believers believe that god himself wrtote the bible, why should he do that?''lmao
Another ignorant person. God never wrote the bible. Secondly Buddhism preaches the goal of non-existance. It does not preach love. Hinduism came out with the notion of varna. That doesnt seem very loving, especially when you are the untouchable.
 
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shep said:
where's the LOVE in the OT? you got incest, rape, murder..... doesn't sound like love to me.... and god told people to do these things.
When you take things out of context and do not use an accurate source you will get stupid answer like this one. Like my professor has told me, 'I can make the bible say anything if taken out of context! Did you know Moses was a good Tennis player? it's true because the bible says: Moses served in the Pharoah's court'
 
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Sixxness said:
This is why our species will not evolve. People can't think rationally. We are not atheist because of ego, if anything it is lack of ego. The religious however think they only they are correct in their beliefs, so WHO HAS THE FUCKING EGO PROBLEM NOW?
You do since you took offense to it.
It's a direct blow at your ego.

Why take it personal?
LOL! You pulled your own card.


Instead of desputing what I said,
why don't you look more into it?

People despise religion because it asks you to leave the pleasures of life and submit to a higher power, now whether this is right or wrong, that's another question.
But the fact is that no selfish-egoistic person will ever submit to anyone.
Never! And you know that....
 
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sheriff said:
what about buddhism and hinduism?

me im not religious, i never went to churchh every week...how can you believers believe that god himself wrtote the bible, why should he do that?''lmao
God didn't write the bible, ask anyone and they will tell you that He "inspired" the writers of the bible.

As for Buddhism and Hinduism,
first throw Buddhism out the window. Its a spin off of Hinduism from a man who decided to add his own twist to it.
Hinduism is a great religion.
I think its the best man-made religion.
Look into it, it's very deep and very interesting.
I like their idea that evil is only ignorance.
That's deep right there because in many ways, people are evil as a result of ignorance.
Jesus even said when he was at the cross, "Forgive them for they don't know what they do"....
Something along those lines....
 

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MEXICANCOMMANDO said:
When you take things out of context and do not use an accurate source you will get stupid answer like this one. Like my professor has told me, 'I can make the bible say anything if taken out of context! Did you know Moses was a good Tennis player? it's true because the bible says: Moses served in the Pharoah's court'
saying that shit is way different that seeing text talking about this shit:

1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)



So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.



The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, "How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God's curse."



Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.

2) Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)



They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.



Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
 

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3) More Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)



As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.

4) Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NAB)



If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

5) Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)



If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.

6) David's Punishment - Polygamy, Rape, Baby Killing, and God's "Forgiveness" (2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB)



Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives (plural) while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.'

Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die."

7) Rape of Female Captives (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NLT)



Suppose you go to war against your enemies and the LORD your God hands them over to you and you take captives. And suppose you see among the captives a beautiful woman, and you are attracted to her and want to marry her. If this happens, you may take her to your home, where she must shave her head, cut her fingernails, and change all her clothes. Then she must remain in your home for a full month, mourning for her father and mother. After that you may marry her. But if you marry her and then decide you do not like her, you must let her go free. You may not sell her or treat her as a slave, for you have humiliated her.

I guess this is the love you christians talk about
 

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i'm done with you people. the only thing you will do is come back and say, that's one interpretation, which is one of the biggest flaws with christianity