The Thing That Seperates Christianity From Other Religions...

[shep]

Basically. It assumes:
(A) That God is the Christian God. Although I agree, that YHWH is THE God, it seems weird that an Atheist 'picks' only to focus on YHWH.
(B) God is a female? hahaha! What is this founded on?
(C) Thirdly is contradicts itself. It states that God, if there is a God, must be omnipotent. Yet no matter how omnipotent God is he must still be bound by logic? Kinda defeats the purpose of omnipotance.
(D) The article states that an Enlightened person will denounce Religion? Then why are there Harvard, Princeton, Stanford alumni and professors that devote their lives to Religious studies and then never lose faith? What makes me laugh are the Atheist that devote their lives to Religious studies for the purpose of disproving religion, why would they devote so much time and effort into disproving something that they find to be made up?

1. christianity is the most flawed religion

2. nowhere does it assume that

3. Some people say that he can only do things that are logically possible to do, but what is? Is it logically possible to walk on water? Is it logically possible to rise from the dead? Is it logically possible to stand above time, space and all other dimensions - and still exist? I'd say that everything which violates the laws of physics are logically impossible and thus omnipotence is logically impossible. Besides if omnipotence is a relative quality there is no way to tell omnipotence from non-omnipotence. For omnipotence to be a valid expression it must be absolute, but we have no objective criteria to measure omnipotence so the word itself is useless.

4. what baffles me is how you people follow an intangeable being which has never been proven to exist. the only reason you believe in it is because of heresay

 

[MEXCOM]

1. christianity is the most flawed religion

2. nowhere does it assume that

3. Some people say that he can only do things that are logically possible to do, but what is? Is it logically possible to walk on water? Is it logically possible to rise from the dead? Is it logically possible to stand above time, space and all other dimensions - and still exist? I'd say that everything which violates the laws of physics are logically impossible and thus omnipotence is logically impossible. Besides if omnipotence is a relative quality there is no way to tell omnipotence from non-omnipotence. For omnipotence to be a valid expression it must be absolute, but we have no objective criteria to measure omnipotence so the word itself is useless.

4. what baffles me is how you people follow an intangeable being which has never been proven to exist. the only reason you believe in it is because of heresay

1) And your proof?
2) I think it makes most sense if god is female, because only women can give life. Something that even people in the Stone Age understood. Later when wars affected the cultural evolution, and men took control of society, god became male, but the female god still lives on in the expression "Mother earth". Unless I read it wrong, which is a possibility, it's trying to tell us how God is female and then became a Male. God is neither. Why would God need a sex?
3) If omnipotance can be logically impossible but that does not mean omnipotance is impossible. If you are omnipotent then by definition you should be able to do anything impossible or not. But saying the word is useless is your opinion.
4) Damn. You call migg a moron but now out of nowhere you can read my mind?

 

[shep]

1) And your proof?
2) I think it makes most sense if god is female, because only women can give life. Something that even people in the Stone Age understood. Later when wars affected the cultural evolution, and men took control of society, god became male, but the female god still lives on in the expression "Mother earth". Unless I read it wrong, which is a possibility, it's trying to tell us how God is female and then became a Male. God is neither. Why would God need a sex?
3) If omnipotance can be logically impossible but that does not mean omnipotance is impossible. If you are omnipotent then by definition you should be able to do anything impossible or not. But saying the word is useless is your opinion.
4) Damn. You call migg a moron but now out of nowhere you can read my mind?

1. study all religions and you will see

2. the person obviously doesn't believe in a god

3. if omnipotence isn't logically possible, then it loses it's meaning

4. well, you have yet to prove a god exists, therefore you believe in the equivelant to an imaginary being

 

[MEXCOM]

1. study all religions and you will see

2. the person obviously doesn't believe in a god

3. if omnipotence isn't logically possible, then it loses it's meaning

4. well, you have yet to prove a god exists, therefore you believe in the equivelant to an imaginary being

1) I doubt you have. I doubt any one has studied all religions, but i am studying religions. 2 religious based classes. One on comparative religions the other on the bible. So I know what I am talking about when I bring up the scriptures.
2) Still doesn't validate his assumptions and poorly written paper.
3) Not at all.Omnipotence means you can do anything. So if I am omnipotent I can do things that are logical, illogical, real, fake, etc, etc.
4) I don't have to prove God exists. I never once told you I was. You on the other hand have already tried to disprove God. You haven't.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

For the simple fact that Science can't disprove my God. And much like the theist, the atheist will never have the proof; proof to disprove God.

Science can't disprove leprechauns either, that doesn't mean everyone should believe in them.

 

[MEXCOM]

Science can't disprove leprechauns either, that doesn't mean everyone should believe in them.

But that does mean that they may exist.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

But that does mean that they may exist.

lol

Do you believe in leprechauns?

Listen, us atheist/non-believers or whatever, only believe in things that have evidence. If I told you I had a magical purple flying midget that shits gold nuggets in my house would you believe me for the simple fact that you cannot disprove it? OR would you logically come to the conclusion I am bullshitting you?

 

[I AM]

The funny thing is....When do you all "start" to believe in god? When you were a kid right? You believe in monsters and the boogey man when you are a kid right? Yes. Why? Because as a child your brain is not fully developed and you cannot make rational decisions. Only through experience can you do so. If you give a kid oreos all the time as a kid, that kid is going to develope a special taste for those, and he will continue to eat them even if he knows they are bad for him....Now that I just typed that out, I realize I just compared your god to an oreo, which I think is funny, I didn't mean to, but it makes sense to me....

I read through every word that shep typed, and it made sense to me. Maybe the problem is that those who believe in god are so wrapped up in believing in it that they have NO concept of what it would be like without a god.

Have ANY of you ever thought about it? And you know what I mean, I'm talkin in depth, with MONTHS of reflection. I did this last summer when I was out in the middle of nowhere working on a native res. Nothing to do but think. After a couple months, I realized that there could not be a god. It is my own personal opinion, I don't expect anyone to agree, but I think believing in god is rather ignorant.

Plus, if there is a god, the ENERGY that I believe in, is BIGGER than him. Based on the idea that energy is in everything, why would god be so special? He's not, cause he doesn't exist...Maybe instead of talking about how shep is closed minded, you guys need to let yourselfs go and actually read the info he posted and try to think of it in a logical manner, without assuming he is wrong. Don't assume shit, this is hard for you because you are all so dull wittedly following the existance of your god that you can't comprehend what the universe would be like without that god.

Another thing I thought of is....Aren't we all supposedly god's children or some shit like that? If so, your prophecies about Jesus being crucified dont' mean shit. EVERYONE would be a "son" or "daughter" of god, so no matter who got crucified that shit would be true. You guys just believe it because you grew up with it, it is engrained in your minds. Go watch the video that 2-0-sixx posted about brainwashing. Cause the only thing that religion does, is brainwash people into following what they want them to!

 

[MEXCOM]

lol

Do you believe in leprechauns?

Personally I don't but that doesn't mean I pass them off as imaginary. For all I know they can be devils or demons.

lol
Listen, us atheist/non-believers or whatever, only believe in things that have evidence. If I told you I had a magical purple flying midget that shits gold nuggets in my house would you believe me for the simple fact that you cannot disprove it? OR would you logically come to the conclusion I am bullshitting you?

Of course I wouldnt trust you but would I know you really aren't lying?

 

[shep]

Personally I don't but that doesn't mean I pass them off as imaginary. For all I know they can be devils or demons.

Of course I wouldnt trust you but would I know you really aren't lying?

that is why you would demand proof... hard evidence... and that's all we're asking for

 

[MEXCOM]

The funny thing is....When do you all "start" to believe in god? When you were a kid right? You believe in monsters and the boogey man when you are a kid right? Yes. Why? Because as a child your brain is not fully developed and you cannot make rational decisions. Only through experience can you do so. If you give a kid oreos all the time as a kid, that kid is going to develope a special taste for those, and he will continue to eat them even if he knows they are bad for him....Now that I just typed that out, I realize I just compared your god to an oreo, which I think is funny, I didn't mean to, but it makes sense to me....

I've always been catholic, I believe miggidy has at one point in his life not believen in God. So how can he go back to believing into 'fairy tales' if he really didn't believe them to be true? The only alternative your logic offers is that miggidy has the mental capacity of a little kid.

I read through every word that shep typed, and it made sense to me. Maybe the problem is that those who believe in god are so wrapped up in believing in it that they have NO concept of what it would be like without a god.

You didn't even know who YHWH was. I have studied religion and its history. The article made too many assumptions I adressed 4 main ones.

Have ANY of you ever thought about it? And you know what I mean, I'm talkin in depth, with MONTHS of reflection. I did this last summer when I was out in the middle of nowhere working on a native res. Nothing to do but think. After a couple months, I realized that there could not be a god. It is my own personal opinion, I don't expect anyone to agree, but I think believing in god is rather ignorant.

Have I ever thought that their might not be a god? Sure but I still think that there is a god.

Plus, if there is a god, the ENERGY that I believe in, is BIGGER than him. Based on the idea that energy is in everything, why would god be so special? He's not, cause he doesn't exist...Maybe instead of talking about how shep is closed minded, you guys need to let yourselfs go and actually read the info he posted and try to think of it in a logical manner, without assuming he is wrong. Don't assume shit, this is hard for you because you are all so dull wittedly following the existance of your god that you can't comprehend what the universe would be like without that god.

If there is a God and therefore I assume you are talking about the Christian God then nothing is bigger than him. He created everything including Energy. If I was really following my religion and God dull wittedly why would I learn more about him? Why would I question what I have been thought? I have learned about Judeaism, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, countless of native religions, Taoism, Shintoism, etc, etc. Christianity is the only one I feel holds.

Another thing I thought of is....Aren't we all supposedly god's children or some shit like that? If so, your prophecies about Jesus being crucified dont' mean shit. EVERYONE would be a "son" or "daughter" of god, so no matter who got crucified that shit would be true. You guys just believe it because you grew up with it, it is engrained in your minds. Go watch the video that 2-0-sixx posted about brainwashing. Cause the only thing that religion does, is brainwash people into following what they want them to!

Hmmm. Once again you prove your ignorance. Christianity never forces any one to follow it. It is a religion of choice. You choose to follow it. I did, you didn't.

 

[MEXCOM]

that is why you would demand proof... hard evidence... and that's all we're asking for

If God wants to make himself known he will.

 

[miggidy]

you do realize you are a moron, don't you? i think this author understands the concept of god more than you could ever. tell your imaginary friend i said hi

LOL!
How can he understand God if he doesn't even know Him?

The assumptions he makes all over the article are sad.
These are the same assumptions a lost soul makes.

 

[miggidy]

what question?

and do you have proof of when these so called prophecies were written. since you are so concerned with them, write em out word for word.

Locc touched on a few of these prophecies, all I ask is that you focus on the ones regarding the Messiah for starters. Now go and do some research in the Dead Sea scrolls.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Hmmm. Once again you prove your ignorance. Christianity never forces any one to follow it. It is a religion of choice. You choose to follow it. I did, you didn't.

Bullshit.

Believe, and go to heaven. Do not believe and burn in hell. Yeah, they really give us a fucking choice.

"Hey thats fine if you don't believe in god, you're just going to spend eternity in hell"

 

[miggidy]

The funny thing is....When do you all "start" to believe in god? When you were a kid right?

Like Commando said, I was an athiest up until a year and a half ago.
The funny thing is that before the Siccness networks crashed a few months back,
you could do a search of the threads and find were I made fun of religious folks and the concept of God itself.
I was making the same arguments everyone of you has brought forward,
I used to think like you all....
We are all the same, we have all been programmed by society to think the same.
Some manage to open one eye, but the other remains closed.
Everyone's living in a controlled society....

And only those who hunger for the Truth, find the Way.
It all starts by humbling your ego, couple that with the desire to find the meaning of Life and you'll find yourself on the Way to the Truth....

Keep searching ya'll....

 

[MEXCOM]

Bullshit.

Believe, and go to heaven. Do not believe and burn in hell. Yeah, they really give us a fucking choice.

"Hey thats fine if you don't believe in god, you're just going to spend eternity in hell"

Bullshit? I still believe the choice is up to you. All I said was it was a religion of choice. You don't have to believe. Are the consequences bad? Sure, but how many of us Christians aren't also going to follow a similar fate? You are choosing not to believe.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Locc touched on a few of these prophecies, all I ask is that you focus on the ones regarding the Messiah for starters. Now go and do some research in the Dead Sea scrolls.

Why don't you post them, ALL-KNOWING MIGGIDY? The burden of proof lies upon the theist, not the atheist.

I did my own research on one particular thread because no one was stepping up to the plate. After hours and hours of research, I came to the conclusion that everything was a complete fucking joke and also a complete waste of my time. Later today I will post my findings. Never again will I waste such precious time on such bullshit. Either post your "evidence" or completely drop it as an argument.

In a debate, one can't say,

Theist- "I have proof. It is within this book"
Atheist- "What proof?"
Theist- "Go look it up yourself"
Atheist- "Why?"
Theist- "Because it's the TRUTH!"
Atheist- "Well, explain. What is in the book?"
Theist- "I'm not telling!"
Atheist- "Stop acting childish and tell me what this proof is"
Theist- "No! I have the truth in my head, I've seen it in the book. If you want to learn go look it up!"
Atheist- "Fuck off loser"

Just doesn't work that way guys. You're never going to get your point across like this.

 

[miggidy]

It has already been posted 2-0,
Why do you pretend its not there?
Because it conflicts with your view of life?

I will post some stuff tonight....

 

[2-0-Sixx]

It has already been posted 2-0,
Why do you pretend its not there?
Because it conflicts with your view of life?

I will post some stuff tonight....

Where Miggidy? Where are these prophecies? Please link me because I must have missed it. And it better not be some bullshit that says, "This came true in blah blah blah", I want the actual word for word prophecies. Are the posted?