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MEXICANCOMMANDO said:
Once again shep aren't doing a good job. Research the Hebrew text before you copy and paste more stuff.
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When and If you do this please research a bit more. it's fun to pick what you want. But you have to have knowledge of who certain things were spoken to and why things were said. Until you know this the bible will seem contradictory. If you are having trouble look online. there are hundres of sites that defend the bible. Not all are accurate but if you know what you are looking for it should be no problem.
 
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Sicc OG
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shep said:
you still have not provided the correct proof. citing the debatable text at hand is not proving anything, what 2-0 and i are doing is showing the conflicts WITHIN the bible.... validate your bible using outside resources. i could prove that the white race is superior by citing mein kampf, but we all know, citing the questionable text is no proof at all.
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I never said I was going to provide any proof. You and 2-0 are showing 'conflicts' but so far they have all been refuted. Like I said look into the greek, the hebrew, into redaction, biblical literature and history, traditions, geneology, geography, etc. Even the Easter one has been answered. To say that no one has ever answered that challenge is ignorant.
 
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Sicc OG
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MEXICANCOMMANDO said:
I never said I was going to provide any proof. You and 2-0 are showing 'conflicts' but so far they have all been refuted. Like I said look into the greek, the hebrew, into redaction, biblical literature and history, traditions, geneology, geography, etc. Even the Easter one has been answered. To say that no one has ever answered that challenge is ignorant.
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ok, the challenge might have been answered, but still, there is no proof.


still waiting
 
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MEXICANCOMMANDO said:
When and If you do this please research a bit more. it's fun to pick what you want. But you have to have knowledge of who certain things were spoken to and why things were said. Until you know this the bible will seem contradictory. If you are having trouble look online. there are hundres of sites that defend the bible. Not all are accurate but if you know what you are looking for it should be no problem.
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there are also sites that defend the guy in your sig... what's your point? i've looked at several of those sites, and you know what? not one has given proof or evidence. christianity's case couldn't and wouldn't even hold up in the court of law... it's all based on heresay and circumstantial evidence.


still waiting..
 
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shep said:
ok, the challenge might have been answered, but still, there is no proof.


still waiting
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They gave proof that the prophecy's were answered. That is all I believe either was going to do. I never said I was going to prove anything, all I am doing is refuting what you atheist say. If you want more proof i suggest you read past posts from migg, heresy, and edj might even have some. The only prophecy I can give you that is being fufilled is the mark of th beast. And about all your copy and paste errors from the bible that you got from anti-christian or athesit sites, everything you have posted can be refuted. You just dont want to research any of it before you press the summit reply button (trust me, it shows).
 
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MEXICANCOMMANDO said:
They gave proof that the prophecy's were answered. That is all I believe either was going to do. I never said I was going to prove anything, all I am doing is refuting what you atheist say. If you want more proof i suggest you read past posts from migg, heresy, and edj might even have some. The only prophecy I can give you that is being fufilled is the mark of th beast. And about all your copy and paste errors from the bible that you got from anti-christian or athesit sites, everything you have posted can be refuted. You just dont want to research any of it before you press the summit reply button (trust me, it shows).
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where is the proof? cause the bible says so, that's not proof considering that's the document in question
 
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shep said:
there are also sites that defend the guy in your sig... what's your point? i've looked at several of those sites, and you know what? not one has given proof or evidence. christianity's case couldn't and wouldn't even hold up in the court of law... it's all based on heresay and circumstantial evidence.
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How many times do I have to tell you? I never offered you any proof. I will refute what I can. Sure there are sites that defend hitler, there are sites that defend castro, stalin, lenin, bush, alexander the great, the pilgrims, atheist, and theist. What's your point? Mine is simply this: Educate yourself on the bible. Don't just copy and paste, because everything can be refuted. Trust me. any pro-Atheist-anti-God argument wouldn't hold up in a court of law either. If I am correct it is innocent until proven guilty.
Example:
(God Vs. Science)
Science: God I say you do not exist.
God: What is your evidence?
Science: ummm. I have none.
God: Then do you expect me to testify against myself?
Science: Yes! Could you?Pretty please?
God: I plead the fifth.
Science: Shit!
Judge: God, you are free to go.
 
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shep said:
where is the proof? cause the bible says so, that's not proof considering that's the document in question
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Why would I doubt the bible? Historically it has been accurate. it is a great record of history, even if you do not believe the 'mythological' aspect of it. Even outside sources reveal that there was a Christ and hundreds of other stories depicted in the bible.
 
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MEXICANCOMMANDO said:
Why would I doubt the bible? Historically it has been accurate. it is a great record of history, even if you do not believe the 'mythological' aspect of it. Even outside sources reveal that there was a Christ and hundreds of other stories depicted in the bible.
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no they don't
 
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MEXICANCOMMANDO said:
How many times do I have to tell you? I never offered you any proof. I will refute what I can. Sure there are sites that defend hitler, there are sites that defend castro, stalin, lenin, bush, alexander the great, the pilgrims, atheist, and theist. What's your point? Mine is simply this: Educate yourself on the bible. Don't just copy and paste, because everything can be refuted. Trust me. any pro-Atheist-anti-God argument wouldn't hold up in a court of law either. If I am correct it is innocent until proven guilty.
Example:
(God Vs. Science)
Science: God I say you do not exist.
God: What is your evidence?
Science: ummm. I have none.
God: Then do you expect me to testify against myself?
Science: Yes! Could you?Pretty please?
God: I plead the fifth.
Science: Shit!
Judge: God, you are free to go.
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but an athiest would never have to prove it. like i said, that would be like me telling you to prove my imaginary friend doesn't exist. it would be up to me to prve that he did exist
 
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Okay, this might be the last time I post, because the ignorance of people in this thread (the religious) is too much for me. If you are so deep into your belief, keep doin that. But realize that your prophecies don't mean SHIT. YOU do not know when they were written. You weren't there. You didn't see the guy with the pen or whatever he used. The problem is that the bible was written by man, but is the word of god? Did God talk to that fuckin guy too or what?

Religion is the curse of our species. Only when we can all think logically and rationally about life will we ever get passed this ignorance and stupidity.

I called you MC, an idiot, because you so strongly talk SHIT to me when I SAID THAT. But then YOU SAID IT TOO, hypocrite. I'm sick of reading your bullshit ass replies where you THINK you are beating the atheists argument. You just DO NOT KNOW, period. Reading this BULLSHIT and seeing how ignorant and irrational people can be, it makes me want to take all of you on a boat and SINK THAT SHIT so we wouldn't have to deal with morons anymore.

Sorry if you don't like my opinion, but I find that your belief does reflect a good amount of your "intelligence" if you even have as much as you think you do.

As long as you can not PROVE with concrete evidence that your "god" exists, you need to shut the fuck up. You OBVIOUSLY can't read, or you would understand the definition of atheist. Good day to you all, I can't read this crap anymore!
 
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Sixxness said:
Okay, this might be the last time I post, because the ignorance of people in this thread (the religious) is too much for me. If you are so deep into your belief, keep doin that. But realize that your prophecies don't mean SHIT. YOU do not know when they were written. You weren't there. You didn't see the guy with the pen or whatever he used. The problem is that the bible was written by man, but is the word of god? Did God talk to that fuckin guy too or what?

Religion is the curse of our species. Only when we can all think logically and rationally about life will we ever get passed this ignorance and stupidity.

I called you MC, an idiot, because you so strongly talk SHIT to me when I SAID THAT. But then YOU SAID IT TOO, hypocrite. I'm sick of reading your bullshit ass replies where you THINK you are beating the atheists argument. You just DO NOT KNOW, period. Reading this BULLSHIT and seeing how ignorant and irrational people can be, it makes me want to take all of you on a boat and SINK THAT SHIT so we wouldn't have to deal with morons anymore.

Sorry if you don't like my opinion, but I find that your belief does reflect a good amount of your "intelligence" if you even have as much as you think you do.

As long as you can not PROVE with concrete evidence that your "god" exists, you need to shut the fuck up. You OBVIOUSLY can't read, or you would understand the definition of atheist. Good day to you all, I can't read this crap anymore!
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seriously... it's like talking to 5 year olds
 
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Sicc OG
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shep said:
no they don't
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Yes they do. Outside sources have cited a Christ. Who else would be named Christ? its not even a name. It's a title. I have given one name in the past, I believe rectal has given names of other historians. Jewish, Christian, and Romans.
 
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shep said:
but an athiest would never have to prove it. like i said, that would be like me telling you to prove my imaginary friend doesn't exist. it would be up to me to prve that he did exist
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An atheist would never have to prove it because that would go against their 'lack of belief.' ts is still surprising how you claim you cannot prove the imaginary but you, 2-0, and sixx have all tried to disprove God using logic, copy and pasted threads, analysis of the human mind, and other techniques. They haven't worked and they wont.
 
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Sicc OG
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MEXICANCOMMANDO said:
An atheist would never have to prove it because that would go against their 'lack of belief.' ts is still surprising how you claim you cannot prove the imaginary but you, 2-0, and sixx have all tried to disprove God using logic, copy and pasted threads, analysis of the human mind, and other techniques. They haven't worked and they wont.
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HOLY SHIT BATMAN! No one is trying to DISPROVE GOD. We are only saying it is illogical to believe in something without proof.

I feel like I'm repeating myself here. I feel like I'm repeating myself here.
 
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Sixxness said:
Okay, this might be the last time I post, because the ignorance of people in this thread (the religious) is too much for me. If you are so deep into your belief, keep doin that. But realize that your prophecies don't mean SHIT. YOU do not know when they were written. You weren't there. You didn't see the guy with the pen or whatever he used. The problem is that the bible was written by man, but is the word of god? Did God talk to that fuckin guy too or what?
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So?
Sixxness said:
Religion is the curse of our species. Only when we can all think logically and rationally about life will we ever get passed this ignorance and stupidity.
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Yeah let's be logical. Handicapped people are a burden to society let's kill them! Gays cannot have kids, let's get rid of them also. Mentally retarded people will never advance the human race, why not make sure they go? I mean logically it's the ones who are fit to survive that should right? So let's bomb the shit out of Iraq and take all their oil, let' do that to all the oil rich countries! And all you hippie/commie bastards that are going to argue against these 'inhumane' ideas remind yourself, it is only logical.
Sixxness said:
I called you MC, an idiot, because you so strongly talk SHIT to me when I SAID THAT. But then YOU SAID IT TOO, hypocrite. I'm sick of reading your bullshit ass replies where you THINK you are beating the atheists argument. You just DO NOT KNOW, period. Reading this BULLSHIT and seeing how ignorant and irrational people can be, it makes me want to take all of you on a boat and SINK THAT SHIT so we wouldn't have to deal with morons anymore.
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Prove to me I talked shit to you. I never did. I used your logic against you. If that made you mad then I don't know what to say. And if you want to do something about it then go ahead. I'm not a little church choir boy. I've seen a lot of shit and your threaths don't scare me.
Sixxness said:
Sorry if you don't like my opinion, but I find that your belief does reflect a good amount of your "intelligence" if you even have as much as you think you do.
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You wouldnt know my 'intelligence' my friend. I am no idiot.
Sixxness said:
As long as you can not PROVE with concrete evidence that your "god" exists, you need to shut the fuck up. You OBVIOUSLY can't read, or you would understand the definition of atheist. Good day to you all, I can't read this crap anymore!
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I understood the definition of atheist quite well after 2-0-sixx gave me his prefered definition. Once again since YOU can't prove my God does not exist with concrete evidence then I will not shut up and I will continue something which I have studied in full detail and which has never or will ever be refuted.
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
HOLY SHIT BATMAN! No one is trying to DISPROVE GOD. We are only saying it is illogical to believe in something without proof.

I feel like I'm repeating myself here. I feel like I'm repeating myself here.
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Then why have you tried to disprove God? You keep saying you don't all of you have. First and foremost you attack the validity of the bible. If the bible is incorrect then logically the notion of God must be suspect.
 
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