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CHAPO GUZMAN

CHAPO GUZMAN

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Tha Mack said:
Holiday kinda scares me in a way. He's a top dollar pick up, yet people forget how awful he was in Oakland
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I dont think he liked playing in Oakland very much, no offense to the A's or anything.

Once he played in STL he was waay better and looked like he was having more fun. Imagine him behind pablo or infront?

Hollidays defense/offense >>>> Lewis.
 
DubbC415

DubbC415

Mickey Fallon
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apparently Uggla is supposed to be traded by the end of the day...although its already almost 6 o clock on the east coast, I cant imagine it happening too much later.

And also the Giants are still interested in Nick Johnson but wont give him a 2 year-or-more deal, they've only offered him the 1 year. Mariners did the same thing and he's waiting it out.

edit: and DeRosa is looking for a 3 year, 27 mil deal. Torrealba is close to re-signing with the Rockies. Marlins dont want to trade Cantu, either.
 
DubbC415

DubbC415

Mickey Fallon
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A source informed Steve Popper of the Bergen Record that the Mets are only team willing to give catcher Bengie Molina a one-year contract.
The Mets have already run themselves into trouble this winter with a low-ball offer to left-hander Randy Wolf and are now playing it risky with the 35-year-old Molina, thought to be high on their offseason wish list. It's unlikely he signs for anything less than a two-year deal. Molina hit .265/.285/.442 this past season but reached 20 homers for the first time.

obviously this is before what's posted above:

According to Joel Sherman of the New York Post, the Mets believe they can ink catcher Bengie Molina at this week's Winter Meetings.
The Mets have stepped up their efforts to land the free agent backstop but apparently don't want to tender him an offer over two years. Molina, 35, hit just .265/.285/.442 this past season but will want to cash in on his last real crack at the free agent market. A two-year deal might not get it done.
 
ReKz

ReKz

Sicc OG
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Tha Mack said:
I heard a possible talk of Mike Lowell for Aaron Rowand
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From Jayson Stark:

Hearing Red Sox have 2 or 3 teams they could trade Mike Lowell to right now if they take "similar" contract back
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Lowell is signed through next year at $12 million, Rowand is signed through '12 at $12 million per....not sure the Sox would do that, but if they'd be willing I'd take it. Our outfield would work a lot better: Bowker LF, Velez/Torres CF, Schierholtz RF.

More from Sabean:

Sabean expects activity to pick up tonight, but “no need” to engage Scott Boras in Indy

Posted by Andrew Baggarly on December 9th, 2009 at 2:55 pm | Categorized as Uncategorized

Just emerged from Brian Sabean’s suite. The Giants GM expects activity to “pick up this evening based on our earlier conversations. We may be getting closer to getting something done.”

Here are the news points:

–Sabean said there’s “no need” to speak to Scott Boras here in Indianapolis, a clear indication that the asking price for Adrian Beltre is nowhere near what the club is willing to pay for a corner infielder. “We have a very definite range and we’re not going to exceed that. Players fit in one category with the years we’d offer. They won’t be lengthy, long-term contracts.”

–Sabean said he’d offer two years to a first baseman without worry of lidding any talent in the organization. Asked if a three-year deal would be considered lengthy, he said, “Possibly, but it doesn’t preclude us from doing something.” (I’ve heard the Giants would go to two years on 1B Nick Johnson, but not three. Perhaps INF Mark DeRosa could merit a three-year deal, though, since he wouldn’t be locked into any one position.)

–Free-agent outfield options aren’t as far along as talks with infielders, “but that could change,” Sabean said. The GM said there is a scenario or two in which the Giants could sign a center fielder (Mike Cameron?) and shift Aaron Rowand to a corner spot.

-No progress on the catching front.

–There were a couple new trade calls, and a couple ideas from the GM meetings “that didn’t go anywhere but are being revisited.” Most of the meetings scheduled for later this evening are on the free-agent front, though.

–Nate Schierholtz won praise from Sabean for going to Puerto Rico and working hard to make adjustments with hitting coach Hensley Meulens. “I give Nate a lot of credit,” Sabean said. “He’s certainly got a captive audience and he wants to be out there.”

But there are no guarantees right field will be his.

“That depends on what happens from the outside,” Sabean said. “All these guys — (John) Bowker, (Travis) Ishikawa, Nate — all of them — will be given a chance to distinguish themselves in the spring. But we don’t know enough about these players, in my mind, to draw the conclusion they’ll be everyday producers moreso than what we could get from the outside. That’s the process we’re going through now.”
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Jayson Stark said:
  • Hearing that Padres offered Kouzmanoff to Giants for Fred Lewis & Kevin Fransden. Asked Twins for Glen Perkins & 2nd player. 21 minutes ago from web
  • Padres now "aggressively" trying to move Kevin Kouzmanoff, says one source who spoke w them. Hear Twins & Giants have been most interested about 1 hour ago from web
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UPDATE:

FollowThePadres said:
If the #Padres are to make a deal with the Giants, it will have to be for a different set of players. Again, Lewis/Frandsen won't cut it. 7 minutes ago from web
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BROWN GUERRERO

BROWN GUERRERO

#SFUNITE
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Giants Aren't Interested In Beltre
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [December 9 at 8:10pm CST]

8:10pm: The Giants have Scott Podsednik on their radar, Baggarly reports. He's apparently one of the center fielders the club is considering.

7:11pm: The Giants don't have interest in Adrian Beltre, according to John Shea of the San Francisco Chronicle. Giants GM Brian Sabean told Shea that his club isn't interested in the free agent "at this time." In fact, Sabean says the Giants have "no need" to talk to Boras right now, according to Andrew Baggarly of the San Jose Mercury News.

Instead, the Giants are focused on adding a first baseman on a short-term deal. Sabean didn't name names, but acknowledged that his list doesn't include any surprise candidates. That probably means the Giants would consider Nick Johnson, Adam LaRoche and Mark DeRosa, though DeRosa probably wouldn't man first. Baggarly hears that the Giants might consider offering DeRosa a third year; they'd offer Johnson a two-year deal.

On another note, Sabean said it's possible the Giants could sign a center fielder and move Aaron Rowand to one of the corners.
 
DubbC415

DubbC415

Mickey Fallon
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mentioned above, but a little more info.


According to Andrew Baggarly of the San Jose Mercury News, the Giants have free agent outfielder Scott Podsednik "on their radar screen."
Podsednik has drawn very little interest this season, even from the White Sox. The 33-year-old outfielder enjoyed a fine comeback seasons in in 2009, batting .304/.353/.412 with seven homers, 48 RBI and 30 stolen bases, but teams clearly think he'll regress back toward the mean.
 
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Simpaticone1

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Eli Whiteside - nobody is taking this dude seriously he's good. Buster ain't a starter yet. Were giving up on Molina because he wants 1 year w/ another 1 year option. Why not give it to him. We need to sign Uribe.

IF NOT WE ARE FUCKED !!!!!!!!
 
LA Dodgers

LA Dodgers

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whiteside is a backup..............giants need a 1 year deal for catcher..............Uribe was on a super hot streak for the 2nd half, probly will never put up those numbers again. htere is no reason to believe he would............
 
ReKz

ReKz

Sicc OG
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DubbC415 said:
mentioned above, but a little more info.


According to Andrew Baggarly of the San Jose Mercury News, the Giants have free agent outfielder Scott Podsednik "on their radar screen."
Podsednik has drawn very little interest this season, even from the White Sox. The 33-year-old outfielder enjoyed a fine comeback seasons in in 2009, batting .304/.353/.412 with seven homers, 48 RBI and 30 stolen bases, but teams clearly think he'll regress back toward the mean.
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DO NOT WANT
 
ReKz

ReKz

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BROWN GUERRERO said:
THURSDAY, 1:22am: Baggarly writes that the Giants "might be making a subtle misdirection play to get the Florida Marlins to take a lesser return" for Uggla.
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Full article:

Don’t count out Uggla to Giants, source cautions

Posted by Andrew Baggarly on December 9th, 2009 at 10:02 pm | Categorized as Uncategorized

Quietly, the Giants are downplaying their interest in Florida Marlins second baseman Dan Uggla. But I’m hearing late tonight that other sources have a different understanding of the club’s level of engagement.

Uggla comes with issues, no doubt. I spelled out most of them in this piece. But he’s still the biggest bat the Giants could acquire via trade or free agency, outside of Matt Holliday or Jason Bay, and lest anyone forget, that’s far and away their greatest need.

Uggla improved overall as a hitter last season, too, boosting his OPS while continuing to hit home runs in a pitcher’s yard. His right-handed pull power is sorely needed at AT&T Park –a commodity the Giants haven’t had since they got glimpses of a healthy Moises Alou in 2005-06. And before that, Jeff Kent.

The source suggested the Giants might be making a subtle misdirection play to get the Florida Marlins to take a lesser return. That might not be necessary, since the Marlins haven’t generated the competition to get a hefty package for the arbitration-eligible slugger. The Orioles are the only other team firmly linked to negotiations.

I understand Uggla would welcome a deal to the Giants, too, for what it’s worth.

Bottom line: We haven’t heard the last word on these Uggla-to-the-Giants rumors yet.
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hella_numb

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from ESPN Insider:

Boras-Sabean feud impacting Beltre?
8:08 AM ET
Adrian Beltre | Mariners Top Email Could the San Francisco Giants ability to sign Adrian Beltre be diminished by the icy relationship between GM Brian Sabean and agent Scott Boras.

According to Andrew Baggarly of the Mercury News, Sabean was irate with Boras' criticism of the Giants for not pursuing one his clients, free agent outfielder Matt Holliday.

Baggarly writes that "In this contentious background, the Giants cannot be considered favorites to sign any Boras client - including Adrian Beltre, who could hit fifth in their lineup and might be the best defensive third baseman in the game."
 
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