**The Official SF Giants Off-Season Thread**
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Thats true but I'd rather the Giants take a chance with DeRosa for a year or two then have Nick Johnson injured all the time.
Nick Johnson has never played moren then 150 games in 7 seasons. He's only played more then 100 games (129,131,147,133) 4 times out of 7 seasons.
The thing about Johnson is hits for average but he has a career .273 avg. And he's only hit more then 20 home runs once.
Nick Johnson has never played moren then 150 games in 7 seasons. He's only played more then 100 games (129,131,147,133) 4 times out of 7 seasons.
The thing about Johnson is hits for average but he has a career .273 avg. And he's only hit more then 20 home runs once.
Though he didn't reveal any names, Giants general manager Brian Sabean said he had offers on the table for more than one free agent.
"We’ve made a number of offers since we’ve been here and that includes multiple offers to the people we’re zeroing in on," said Sabean. "The agents aren’t necessarily ready to make a deal. We’ve identified what we think their value is against the type of contract we’d offer." Baggardly is confident that infielder-outfielder Mark DeRosa is one of them. Though it hasn't been confirmed, first baseman Nick Johnson and outfielder Scott Podsednik are also believed to have received offers.
Giants general manager Brian Sabean said the Giants won't be in on free agent outfielders Matt Holliday and Jason Bay, FOXSports.com reports.
"They're beyond our limits," Sabean said. "We don't have the wherewithal to pay them the dollars they want." That likely takes at least one team out of the running for two of the offseason's most-coveted bats, but the Red Sox, Mets, Cardinals, Mariners and Yankees are expected to bid on corner outfielders before the winter is done.
Giants selected RHP Steve Johnson from the Orioles with the 19th pick in the Rule 5 Draft.
Johnson was a pretty good bet to be chosen, it was just a matter of who would take him. The 22-year-old right-hander was acquired from the Dodgers in the George Sherrill trade in July, finishing 12-7 with a 3.41 ERA and 1.29 WHIP in 27 games (25 starts) between both organizations. He's had a fine track record in the minors, but he was likely over-valued a bit in Baltimore because of his father Dave Johnson, who broadcasts games for the Orioles. He projects best a middle-reliever.
In an interview with John Shea of the San Francisco Chronicle, agent Jeff Borris acknowledged that Barry Bonds' career is over.
"It's two years since he played his last game, and if there was any chance he'd be back in a major-league uniform, it would have happened by now," said Borris. "When 2008 came around, I couldn't get him a job. When 2009 came around, I couldn't get him a job. Now, 2010 ... I'd say it's nearly impossible. It's an unfortunate ending to a storied career." Even though the 45-year-old Bonds hasn't played since 2007, he still hasn't technically retired. There's some who believe that he could still be an offensive force as a designated hitter, but we'll never know. He finishes his brilliant and controversial career with 762 home runs (first all-time), 1,996 RBIs (third all-time) and a .444 on-base percentage (sixth all-time.
"We’ve made a number of offers since we’ve been here and that includes multiple offers to the people we’re zeroing in on," said Sabean. "The agents aren’t necessarily ready to make a deal. We’ve identified what we think their value is against the type of contract we’d offer." Baggardly is confident that infielder-outfielder Mark DeRosa is one of them. Though it hasn't been confirmed, first baseman Nick Johnson and outfielder Scott Podsednik are also believed to have received offers.
Giants general manager Brian Sabean said the Giants won't be in on free agent outfielders Matt Holliday and Jason Bay, FOXSports.com reports.
"They're beyond our limits," Sabean said. "We don't have the wherewithal to pay them the dollars they want." That likely takes at least one team out of the running for two of the offseason's most-coveted bats, but the Red Sox, Mets, Cardinals, Mariners and Yankees are expected to bid on corner outfielders before the winter is done.
Giants selected RHP Steve Johnson from the Orioles with the 19th pick in the Rule 5 Draft.
Johnson was a pretty good bet to be chosen, it was just a matter of who would take him. The 22-year-old right-hander was acquired from the Dodgers in the George Sherrill trade in July, finishing 12-7 with a 3.41 ERA and 1.29 WHIP in 27 games (25 starts) between both organizations. He's had a fine track record in the minors, but he was likely over-valued a bit in Baltimore because of his father Dave Johnson, who broadcasts games for the Orioles. He projects best a middle-reliever.
In an interview with John Shea of the San Francisco Chronicle, agent Jeff Borris acknowledged that Barry Bonds' career is over.
"It's two years since he played his last game, and if there was any chance he'd be back in a major-league uniform, it would have happened by now," said Borris. "When 2008 came around, I couldn't get him a job. When 2009 came around, I couldn't get him a job. Now, 2010 ... I'd say it's nearly impossible. It's an unfortunate ending to a storied career." Even though the 45-year-old Bonds hasn't played since 2007, he still hasn't technically retired. There's some who believe that he could still be an offensive force as a designated hitter, but we'll never know. He finishes his brilliant and controversial career with 762 home runs (first all-time), 1,996 RBIs (third all-time) and a .444 on-base percentage (sixth all-time.
3:30pm: Baggarly believes DeRosa is one of multiple offers the Giants have out to free agents. He's less certain that Johnson and Scott Podsednik received offers.
1:15am: Steve Henson of Yahoo! Sports says that DeRosa is the team's top third base target because he's cheaper then Beltre, and versatile enough to move if Pablo Sandoval can stick at third.
1:15am: Steve Henson of Yahoo! Sports says that DeRosa is the team's top third base target because he's cheaper then Beltre, and versatile enough to move if Pablo Sandoval can stick at third.
MLB.com's Joe Frisaro writes that there's a "general feeling" the Giants will land second baseman Dan Uggla from the Marlins.
Frisaro adds, however, that "no deals are expected" until after Saturday's non-tender deadline.
According to FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal, the Giants' trade talks for Marlins second baseman Dan Uggla have gotten "warmer."
The Giants have been linked to Uggla since the start of the Winter Meetings, along with the Orioles, Rangers and Braves.
Frisaro adds, however, that "no deals are expected" until after Saturday's non-tender deadline.
According to FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal, the Giants' trade talks for Marlins second baseman Dan Uggla have gotten "warmer."
The Giants have been linked to Uggla since the start of the Winter Meetings, along with the Orioles, Rangers and Braves.
i hate this whole "not playing for a non-contender" thing...yes the Giants have no offense but they do have some good pieces to make a playoff team...Back-to-back cy young winner, along with a good starting rotation and one of the most (still) underrated players in the league in Pablo...on top of it they won 88 games and could make the playoffs this year with a revitalized offense...its not like we're the Royals.
It's okay, just goes to show you there's flaws in their hitting if they cant keep their numbers up in ATT park then they aren't really elite hitters. Bonds did it, Vladimir Guerrero could do it, Adrian Gonzalez can do it.
I understand the whole "if my numbers go down my value will go down too if i sign with SF" The game isnt even about the game anymore, its about money and it's kinda of sickening me. We're just gonna have to pull something out of our asses and show we can make the playoffs and win a championship eventually.
I understand the whole "if my numbers go down my value will go down too if i sign with SF" The game isnt even about the game anymore, its about money and it's kinda of sickening me. We're just gonna have to pull something out of our asses and show we can make the playoffs and win a championship eventually.