The Official Oakland Raiders 2012 Offseason Thread
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Sum bullshit! Hue had a tuff 1st year,considering the circumstances! There's a reason why al brought him in cuz of his knowledge of the game and now they're just gonna break up Al's vision of the direction he wanted to take this team! Now were gonna have to start all over again with a new coach and new system and shit?!?...letting hue go is a big fuckin mistake! Especially now!
Jus Being real tho, Darren McFadden, Jason Campbell, Jacoby Ford, Michael Huff, Chris Johnson, Taiwan Jones, Matt Shaughnessy, Denarius Moore, Louis Murphy, Chaz Schilens, Hiram Eugene, Chimdi Chekwa, all missed a lot of games not to mention a few others missed games dude deserved one more year straight up the D was fucking god awful plus our owner died alot of shit went down this year alot of bullshit calls i think the new GM is on a power trip an i dont see us winning to many games anytime soon with the power trip this fat fuck is on he better get rid of the full coaching staff if he going to get rid of Hue, i just dont see us winning shit we cant even keep a fucking coach longer then 3 years i mean what do you expect if we fire a coach every 2/3 years? i expect a losing season so as a raider fan im not jumping on this whole we going to win now blah blah blah we aint winning shit just be straight up..
mckenzie is going to let the new head coach pick his own staff. so he won't be making that decision anyway. mckenzie wants his own guy as head coach and he's going to let him pick out his own people the same way. that's the way it should be done. otherwise you end up with a situation like we had this season, with hue being stuck with bresnahan and the rest of the defensive coaching staff.
because you're mad about a new GM firing the head coach when that's usually what happens when you bring in a new GM. that's how most normal NFL teams work. we're finally becoming a normal NFL team. the GM is gonna clean house and bring in his staff. it isn't all about how Hue performed as a coach, it has a lot to do with how he fits in with the GM's vision and philosophy. McKenzie probably knows Hue isn't his guy for the long term, so why keep him around another year if he knows he can bring in a better guy right now and get the process started of building the team in HIS vision.
He's not continuing Al Davis's vision... this is McKenzie's vision. you do realize that this guy is know as an EXCELLENT talent evaluator... he has an awesome reputation around the league... based upon that, and seeing the type of talent he's scouted in Green Bay... I have faith in him
I'm on record saying I'd be OK with keeping Hue or firing him, basically depending on what the GM felt was the right move, because it has to fit in with what he wants to do
we'll see who's right though... give it some time
He's not continuing Al Davis's vision... this is McKenzie's vision. you do realize that this guy is know as an EXCELLENT talent evaluator... he has an awesome reputation around the league... based upon that, and seeing the type of talent he's scouted in Green Bay... I have faith in him
I'm on record saying I'd be OK with keeping Hue or firing him, basically depending on what the GM felt was the right move, because it has to fit in with what he wants to do
we'll see who's right though... give it some time
New general manager Reggie McKenzie played linebacker for the Raiders back when they were in Los Angeles in the 1980s. And it's not out of the question that he and the team could be back there in a couple of years.
"Yeah, Los Angeles is a possibility," owner Mark Davis said Tuesday. "Wherever's a possibility. We need a stadium."
The Raiders have had discussions with groups in Los Angeles, as well as with the 49ers about the possibility of sharing a Santa Clara stadium. The Raiders played in Los Angeles from 1982 to '94. Davis hasn't liked any of the offers to return. Yet.
"The timetable is yesterday. So that's where it is. We've got to get a stadium. We've got to get that done," Davis said. "It's such a competitive business. It really is competitive. We can't compete for a lot of the players that other teams can, at times."
Raiders CEO Amy Trask also has talked with Oakland officials about the team's No. 1 preference - building a stadium on the team's current Coliseum site off Interstate 880. Davis said the Tuesday's signing of McKenzie as general manager will free him to work more on getting the Raiders out of their outdated home.
Other teams with newer stadiums have more revenue to spend on players, Davis said.
Trade endorsement? One of the big questions Tuesday was just how much fired head coach Hue Jackson and quarterback Carson Palmer are tied together. Jackson traded for Palmer after starter Jason Campbell broke his collarbone, giving up a 2012 first-round draft pick and either a second-round or first-round choice in 2013.
Many thought Jackson gave up too much, but McKenzie said he understood the trade.
"No. 1, as a personnel guy, I love my picks ... more, I love good players," McKenzie said. "Now, bringing in Carson at the time the Raiders brought him in, to me, as a player, that's a good move. You have to get players (who) can help you win games.
"Now, did the situation present itself favorably for Cincinnati? Absolutely. But you do what you have to do. That's just the way it is, the cost of doing business."
As far as Palmer, who went 4-5 as a starter, McKenzie said, "I think he's a good quarterback. Period."
Palmer has a $12.5 million salary for 2012, $5 million of which became guaranteed as part of the trade.
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"Yeah, Los Angeles is a possibility," owner Mark Davis said Tuesday. "Wherever's a possibility. We need a stadium."
The Raiders have had discussions with groups in Los Angeles, as well as with the 49ers about the possibility of sharing a Santa Clara stadium. The Raiders played in Los Angeles from 1982 to '94. Davis hasn't liked any of the offers to return. Yet.
"The timetable is yesterday. So that's where it is. We've got to get a stadium. We've got to get that done," Davis said. "It's such a competitive business. It really is competitive. We can't compete for a lot of the players that other teams can, at times."
Raiders CEO Amy Trask also has talked with Oakland officials about the team's No. 1 preference - building a stadium on the team's current Coliseum site off Interstate 880. Davis said the Tuesday's signing of McKenzie as general manager will free him to work more on getting the Raiders out of their outdated home.
Other teams with newer stadiums have more revenue to spend on players, Davis said.
Trade endorsement? One of the big questions Tuesday was just how much fired head coach Hue Jackson and quarterback Carson Palmer are tied together. Jackson traded for Palmer after starter Jason Campbell broke his collarbone, giving up a 2012 first-round draft pick and either a second-round or first-round choice in 2013.
Many thought Jackson gave up too much, but McKenzie said he understood the trade.
"No. 1, as a personnel guy, I love my picks ... more, I love good players," McKenzie said. "Now, bringing in Carson at the time the Raiders brought him in, to me, as a player, that's a good move. You have to get players (who) can help you win games.
"Now, did the situation present itself favorably for Cincinnati? Absolutely. But you do what you have to do. That's just the way it is, the cost of doing business."
As far as Palmer, who went 4-5 as a starter, McKenzie said, "I think he's a good quarterback. Period."
Palmer has a $12.5 million salary for 2012, $5 million of which became guaranteed as part of the trade.
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