THE FAKEST RELIgION

[miggidy]

I KNEW YOU WAS gONNA COME AT ME THAT WAY AND THAT'S WHY I REFERRED YOU TO THT SITE. I THOUgHT YOU WASN'T ONE OF THEM TYPE OF PEOPLES?
IF YOU REALLY MUST KNOW, THAT'S NOT A JEHOVAH'S WITNESS SITE.
XCONDLY,
THAT'S JUST A BIBLE SITE AND YOU CAN BASICALLY SEARCH WHAT BIBLE VERSION TO LOOK AT SCRIPTURE. I LOOKED FOR THE TEXT YOU gAVE IN THE KINg JAMES VERSION AND AMERICAN BIBLE VERSION AND BOTH DIDN'T HAVE THAT TEXT. THE LAST VERSE IS 25. THERE AIN'T NO VERSE 26 OR 27. SO I MADE SURE I WAS LOOKIN' JUST IN CASE YOU TRY TO ACCUSE ME THAT THE BIBLE I USE IS CORRUPT. SO BASICALLY, MISS ME WITH THAT SHIT PLAYA. DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE YOU START gIVIN' TEXTS THAT AIN'T IN THE SCRIPTURES. SO IF IT IS AN ACTUAL SCRIPTURE(JOHN 2:26, 27) THEN WHAT DOES IT READ? THAT'S WHY REPEATEDLY ASKED WHAT IT SAID AND YOU NEVA ANSWERED.

The link you gave took me to the JW bible.
Read John 2: 26-27 in the King James version.
Do you want me to give you a link?
I can do that if you're having trouble finding these 2 lines....

FIFTY FIRST OF ALL,
gET OFF YOUR HIgH HORSE AND QUIT TRYIN' TO MAKE IT A JEHOVAH'S WITNESS VERSUS REAL CHRISTIANITY ISSUE.
XCONDLY,
JEHOVAH'S WITNESS BELIEVE IN N-E ARCHEOLOgICAL FACTS THAT RELATE TO THE SCRIPTURES.
THIRDLY,
WHAT IS THE ORIgINAL SCRIPTURE YOU TALK ABOUT THAT YOU CLAIM JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES AIN'T TRUE TO?

King James man.
It's the only version to go by....
Everyone else has added or taken away from it....
By the way,
I'm from Northern Cali and not Texas. No horses up here....
But I here ya'll got some Broncos in Denver hahahaha....

AND WHAT IS THE OTHA SHEEP? WHO IS JESUS REFFERIN' TO? HOW YOU KNOW?

Go figure, fill in the blank.... But don't ignore it like everyone else is. The other sheep can be anyone else. We don't know, Jesus was very vague. The other sheep can be aliens from some other world or it can be Muslims (maybe God made exceptions for others) or members of any other religion etc....

THEN YOU STRESSED, "You know this. They didn't know how to pronounce it so they "practically" took a stab at the dark...."
I KNOW WHAT? HOW YOU KNOW THEY DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO PRONOUNCE IT? SHOW ME YOUR RESEARCH WORK. SHOW ME YOUR PROOF.
AND THEY KNEW (gOD) HAS A PERSONAL NAME AND LOOKED IT UP, UNLIKE SOME WHO THINK THE TITLE "gOD" IS HIS NAME.

Peep the Hebrew word Elohim, the Protestants screwed up. That's where they get Jehova from.

SO WHAT ARE YOU DEBATIN' HERE? IT CLEARLY STATES MY POINT. AND WHAT WAS HERESY SAYIN'?

I told Heresy that Jesus was not the same as God the Father because I feel that the Father is the godhead.
Jesus is Lord, whom shares the Throne with the Father.
He always said he sat to the right of the Father, at the throne.
Heresy pointed us out to some info where it says that God and Jesus are the same. I understand that they are the same in the sense that God is a team (trinity) of 3 seperate entities.
But they are seperate none the less.
I don't recall the apostles reffering to Jesus as God, they called him their Lord. Remember Revelations says that Jesus is the only one worthy of lifting the 7 seals because only he is perfect and is also the sacrificial Lamb. All this takes place in Heaven while the Father sits at the throne.
It also says that Jesus will rule over his own sheep, those who believed in him. Thus this makes him their Lord....

Also let me point out that Jesus said it was the Father's will that he would die for us. Could it be that we are Jesus's reward for living perfect and dying for us?
It sure seems like it to me....

THE TRINITY DOESN'T EXIST. THE BIBLE NEVA LABELED THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE FATHER AND SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT.

Jesus was baptized in the name of the 3 remember?

FUNNY HOW THE KINg JAMES VERSION DOESN'T HAVE THE TEXT YOU gAVE ME TO READ.

You're mistaking, it's in there. Look it up else where or I can give you a link if you can't find it.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "It's some where in Acts.
It struck me cuz I think it's the only time the New Testiment makes that connection."
BE MORE PRECISE IF YOU WANT ME TO LOOK IT UP AND SEE WHAT YOU STRESSIN'.

LOL! I thought you knew playa....
I'll look it up and give you the details later.

HELP ME UNDA-STAND THEN IF YOU SO CONVINCED OF YOUR CONVICTIONS. THE TRUTH WILL OPEN MY EYES RIgHT?

Sure, look into anatomical science. We know that there are invisable forces, both small and big which hold atom particles together. What are these invisable forces?
The bible says it is the Holy Spirit of God whom holds everything in order. Jesus and the apostles were able to perform miracles only after the Spirit entered them.
Remember what the unforgivable sin is? It is the sin against the Spirit. Jesus says that the Spirit is the one who gives us life, there for do not sin against it.
The Spirit is the 7th seal.
Remember what Jesus said would happen in the end of days?
He said everything will melt, nothing will remain standing.
What do you get when atoms break down? Nuclear fusion....
Everything's gonna burn when these forces (Spirit) is lifted from Earth. That is what hell will be....
(That's what I get out of it)

NOT TRUE. AS A BABY I WAS BAPTIZED AS A CATHOLIC. MY PEOPLE WERE CATHOLIC. BUT THEY WERE PREACHED THE TRUTH AND WERE "SHOWN" THAT CONCEPTS OF HELL ARE FAKE AS WELL AS MANY CATHOLIC TEACHINgS AND BELIEFS.
AND THOSE WHO DON'T MAKE IT TO HEAVEN HAVE AN EARTHLY DESTINATION(CAUSE MAN WAS MADE TO BE ON EARTH, NOT TO BE IN HEAVEN). YOU TO CLINgED ON TO THE BELIEF THAT EVERYBODY THAT DOES (gOD)'S WILL WILL gO TO HEAVEN.

Jesus talks about this place of gnashing of teeth.
It's not fake....

Jesus says he will seperate the sheep, I only cling on to the Word of Jesus. I'll believe what he says over what men say any day....

IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE HOW YOU INTERPRETIN' AND SEEIN' THANgS. I NEVA SAID THE REST ON EARTH ARE FRIED WHILE ONLY A SELECT FEW gO TO HEAVEN. QUIT TRYIN' TO ASSUME AND PUT VIEWS OFF ON ME.

You said those who don't make it to heaven will go away for ever with out facing hell.

Getting into heaven is as easy as accepting Christ as your savior.
It's in your heart and not in what you do.
There for those who will "burn" in hell are those who rebelled against Christ....

WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY THAT?

It's all over the gospels.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "But these will be people who rebelled against the creator and joined the Satan and the fallen angels.
That is what hell is, it is a place for Satan, his Demons, and God's creation whom back stabbed him."
THAT'S NOT HELL. THAT'S THE ABYSS. THE XCOND DEATH. WHAT IS THE THE HEBREW AND gREEK WORD FOR HELL?

Yes and the abyss is located here on Earth.
The doors to the abyss will be cracked open and Earth will become hell. Everyone who's not picked up by Jesus will remain on Earth and will feel the heat....

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Don't blame God, he sent his only begotten Son to deliver us from damnation but these people still decided to live wicked lives...."
WHO'S BLAMIN' (gOD)?

Those who say hell ain't fair....

 

[miggidy]

Well yes God is 3 seperate entities, but that DOES NOT mean there are 3 Gods. Hence we can logically assume that since God is one, yet he is composed of three, all are equal because if they were not then One part of God would be superior to the Other 2 making the other 2 lesser Gods but they are all equal. Although Jesus is the Son he is still God. How do you know when Jesus was on earth he didn't just pray to himself as an example of what we have to do?

The apostles were asleep as he prayed.

 

[miggidy]

Also Miggidy look at this link:
http://home.earthlink.net/~truth/sec5-3JCGod.html
good insight into God and Jesus.

Good points,

@EDJ, peep this out.

Now SJN,
if Jesus and the Father are the same entity, as this website claims, then it's safe to say there is no Holy Trinity right?

 

[EDJ]

CONTINUATION:

MIggIDY,
YOU STRESSED, "Yes that is why I go by The Word and not what someone else makes out of the Word."

KIND OF LIKE THE BLIND LEADIN' THE BLIND?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I already pointed that out. They add that Jesus's second coming took place in 1914 and they deleted hell from the bible...."

WHAT YOU MEAN THEY DELETED HELL FROM THE BIBLE? SHOW ME. AND WHERE IN THE BIBLE DID THEY ADD 1914 AS THE XCOND COMIN' OF CHRIST? TEXT PLEASE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "You do good works and you're rewarded with Heaven. Isn't that what the J.W.'s and Catholics are about?"

THE CATHOLICS YES, JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, NO. YOU NEED TO DO MORE RESEARCH BEFORE YOU START POINTIN' FINgERS.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Revelation 7: 1
The 7th Seal, the Seal of the Living God.
After the Seal is openned, hell on Earth is unleashed.
This is when "I" think the Spirit of God is removed from Earth.
The Spirit is the invisable force that keep everything in order (gravity, energy etc.).
They say God is the thought, Jesus the creation, and The Spirit hold everything in order.
Remember it was the Spirit that gave Jesus and his apostles the ability to heal and perform miracles."

REVELATION 7:1 DOESN'T SPEAK ON THE 7TH SEAL.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Well the whole picture ain't complete, but I'm almost there.
Two heads are better than one aren't they?"

I AgREE THAT TWO HEADS ARE BETTER THAN ONE, BUT I DISAgREE THAT YOU ALMOST SEEIN' THE COMPLETE PICTURE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Even if that were the case, 144,000 is a very small number.
What do I get out of it? The 144,000 are a special people through out human history who followed Jesus's example perfectly. That's why they get to come back with Jesus in the end to fight the wicked.
Remember, they descend from the Heavens along with Jesus, and their purpose is to kick ass...."

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ALL THAT ASS-KICCIN'. BUT 144,000 IS THE NUMBER.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Well at least that’s what I see from people today. Most of them have chosen Satan’s path.
We both know what awaits them for turning their backs on the Ultimate Reality…."

WHAT AWAITS THEM IS ETERNAL DAMNATION. AND NO I'M NOT TALKIN' ABOUT A PLACE OF TORMENT. BUT SINCE MOST AIN'T gOIN' TO HEAVEN, THEY HAVE AN EARTHLY DESTINATION. I'M TALKIN' ABOUT THE ONES WHO SERVED (gOD) AND DID HIS WILL.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "You are right, but what I meant is that God created us cuz he felt like it.
His plan was for us to reside on this Earth and all, just like you said."

SO WHAT MAKES YOU THINK HE EVA CHANgED HIS MIND OF HIS ORIgINAL PURPOSE?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "But then we wanted to be like him (Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge),
And that’s when we were booted from the garden of Eden (the perfect World you talking about).
Shit changed ever since then, Satan fucked it up for God."

AND SO SATANS WANTS HUMANKIND TO BELIEVE THAT AND THAT WE EITHA gO TO HEAVEN OR HELL. THE TRUTH IS, (gOD) NEVA CHANgED HIS PLAN. SATAN DIDN'T FUK NOTHIN' UP.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "He’s been trying to dirty his seeds from day one.
It didn’t end just there, then he created the Nephilim which prompted God to wipe mankind off the face of this planet. Well except for Noah…. But Satan didn’t stop there, he enslaved his people so then came Moses.
And so onto the days of Jesus, who Herod tried to kill when he was a baby.
Satan’s been tryin to spoil God’s plan from day one. Until today man, all these different denominations are a result of Satan’s deceitful deeds…."

I AgREE. INCLUDIN' PEOPLE BELIEVIN' FALSE DOCTRINES THAT ARE NOT BIBLE-BASED.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I just named them, all that stuff is contradicted by the scripture itself."

YEAH, YOU SAID THAT SHIT AND YOU JUST BASICALLY SAYIN' SUPERFICIAL SHIT THE ACTUAL JEHOVAH'S WITNESS HATER STRESSES WITHOUT LOOKIN' INTO THE RESEARCH AND FINDIN' TRUTH. AND SCRIPTURE DOESN'T CONTRADICT THAT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "My beliefs are based only on what I have learned on my own and with the guidance of the Spirit whom talks to me through the subconscious mind."

HOW DOES THE SPIRIT TALK THRU THE SUBCONCIOUS? WHAT DOES IT SAY?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Yeah this shit would be easier over the phone but the only time I can chop it up is while I’m at work."

WHERE YOU WORK AT CUZZ?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "That’s how I find time to post here.
Maybe a few months from now, we’re currently working on our debut so I don’t even have time to eat after work."

WHO IS WE? BUT I'M A BUSY MAN TOO, YET AND STILL I MAKE TIME FOR THIS SHIT. YOU CAN TOO.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I peeped out some of the links but I can’t find any info that supports their ideals."

THEN YOU AIN'T LOOKIN' RIgHT. ON THEIR SEARCH ENgINES, THEY gOT TOPICS AND BASIC BELIEFS. YOU CAN E-MAIL THEM WHATEVA INQUIRY.

SJN14,
I SEE THAT YOU WANNA JOIN THE CONVO WITH ONE BIBLE TEXT THAT DOESN'T PROVE NOTHIN' BUT THAT THE FATHER, SON, AND HOLY SPIRIT ARE ONE( IN MIND, AS A TEAM, AND PURPOSE).

BUT LET ME ADDRESS EACH OF YOUR COMMENTS:


YOU STRESSED, "You're both Wrong. God is Jesus, Jesus is God, God is the holy spirit, Jesus is the holy Spirit and they are all equal.
Read The first John 5:7."

YOU'RE WRONg. YOU INTERPRETIN' THAT TEXT WRONg TO TRY TO BAK YOUR DOCTRINE. I CAN gIVE YOU MANY MORE BIBLE TEXTS THAT TRINITARIANS TRY TO USE TO HOLD UP THAT FAKE DOCTRINE. TELL ME THIS. WHY AIN'T THE WORD TRINITY IN THE BIBLE IF IT'S SO HOLY?
AND IF ALL ARE EQUAL WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT MATT. 12:31,32? IF THEY ARE ALL EQUAL, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT JOHN 14:28? IF THEY ARE ALL EQUAL, THEN WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT 1 COR 11:3? IF THEY ARE ALL EQUAL, THEN WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT 1 COR. 15:27, 28?

I COULD gO ON AND ON, BUT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THE WORD OF (gOD) SAYS AND NOT JUST LOOK AT ONE TEXT THAT CAN POSSIBLY BE MISINTERPRETED.

 

[EDJ]

MIggIDY,

YOU STRESSED, "The link you gave took me to the JW bible."

BULL MUTHA-FUCCIN' SHIT. YOU AIN'T gOT TO LIE. WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE BIBLE THEN? WHO PUBLISHES IT? WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE SITE? I LINKED YOU TO A BIBLE SITE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Read John 2: 26-27 in the King James version."

I DID. THERE IS NO SUCH SCRIPTURE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Do you want me to give you a link?
I can do that if you're having trouble finding these 2 lines...."

YES, THANK YOU. I'VE BEEN ASKIN' YOU THIS FOR THE LONgEST. YOU HARD-HEADED OR SOMETHIN'.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "King James man.
It's the only version to go by....
Everyone else has added or taken away from it....
By the way,
I'm from Northern Cali and not Texas. No horses up here....
But I here ya'll got some Broncos in Denver hahahaha...."

FIFTY FIRST OF ALL,
FUK KINg JAMES.

XCONDLY,
THERE'S FLAWS IN THE KINg JAMES VERSION TO FIT THE DOCTRINES OF THOSE TIMES.

THIRDLY,
YOU SHOULD START LOOKIN' INTO THE REAL LANgUAgES THE BIBLE WERE WRITTEN IN AND RESEARCH THE WORDS USED IN THE INSTANCES THEY WERE USED IN IF IN DOUBT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Go figure, fill in the blank.... But don't ignore it like everyone else is. The other sheep can be anyone else. We don't know, Jesus was very vague. The other sheep can be aliens from some other world or it can be Muslims (maybe God made exceptions for others) or members of any other religion etc...."

YOU ARE REALLY LOST MAN. AND YOU WERE JUST SAYIN' THAT YOU CAN ALMOST SEE THE WHOLE PICTURE. WELL, ATLEAST THE JEOVAH'S WITNESSES KNOW WHO THE OTHA SHEEP ARE AND PREACH THAT LIKE A SCIENCE. KNOWLEDgE IS POWER BRUH.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Peep the Hebrew word Elohim, the Protestants screwed up. That's where they get Jehova from."

YOU SEEM MORE LOST BY THE POST CUZZ. THE HEBREW WORD ELOHIM IS "gOD" WHICH IS A TITLE. JEHOVAH IS A PRONUNCIATION SOME USE FOR THE FOUR CONSONANTS YHWH WHICH IS THE TETRAgRAMMATON FOR THE DIVINE NAME. YOU NEED TO STUDY MORE INSTEAD OF MAKIN' ACCUSATIONS.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I told Heresy that Jesus was not the same as God the Father because I feel that the Father is the godhead.
Jesus is Lord, whom shares the Throne with the Father.
He always said he sat to the right of the Father, at the throne.
Heresy pointed us out to some info where it says that God and Jesus are the same. I understand that they are the same in the sense that God is a team (trinity) of 3 seperate entities.
But they are seperate none the less.
I don't recall the apostles reffering to Jesus as God, they called him their Lord. Remember Revelations says that Jesus is the only one worthy of lifting the 7 seals because only he is perfect and is also the sacrificial Lamb. All this takes place in Heaven while the Father sits at the throne.
It also says that Jesus will rule over his own sheep, those who believed in him. Thus this makes him their Lord...."

SOUNDS ABOUT RIgHT EXCEPT FOR YOU THROWIN' THE WORD TRINITY UP IN THERE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Jesus was baptized in the name of the 3 remember?"

YEAH, CAUSE THEY ALL ONE IN MIND. BUT IT WASN'T STATED THAT HE WAS BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF THE "HOLY TRINITY"? FIND ME A SCRIPTURE WHERE IT SAYS HOLY TRINITY AND I'LL SHUT THE FUK UP.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "You're mistaking, it's in there. Look it up else where or I can give you a link if you can't find it."

gIVE ME A LINK. I AIN'T gONNA FIND SOMETHIN' THAT'S NOT THERE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "LOL! I thought you knew playa....
I'll look it up and give you the details later."

FUK WHAT YOU THINK I KNOW. WHAT DO YOU KNOW?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Sure, look into anatomical science. We know that there are invisable forces, both small and big which hold atom particles together. What are these invisable forces?
The bible says it is the Holy Spirit of God whom holds everything in order. Jesus and the apostles were able to perform miracles only after the Spirit entered them.
Remember what the unforgivable sin is? It is the sin against the Spirit. Jesus says that the Spirit is the one who gives us life, there for do not sin against it.
The Spirit is the 7th seal.
Remember what Jesus said would happen in the end of days?
He said everything will melt, nothing will remain standing.
What do you get when atoms break down? Nuclear fusion....
Everything's gonna burn when these forces (Spirit) is lifted from Earth. That is what hell will be....
(That's what I get out of it)"

WHAT YOU gET OUT OF IT IS YOUR PERCEPTION. AND YOU HAVE OPENED MY EYES(TO SEE WHAT'S IN YOUR DOME, OTHA THAN THAT, I DON'T SEE IT). BUT I THOUgHT YOU SAID JESUS WAS THE ONE THAT OPENED THE 7TH SEAL? NOW YOU SAYIN' THE HOLY SPIRIT DOES? MAKE UP YOUR MIND AND BAK IT WITH SCRIPTURE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Jesus talks about this place of gnashing of teeth.
It's not fake....

Jesus says he will seperate the sheep, I only cling on to the Word of Jesus. I'll believe what he says over what men say any day...."

AND THE WORD OF JESUS IS MISINTERPRETTED BY YOU. WHAT BOOK, CHAPTER, VERSE IS THIS LOCATED IN? IS IT CONTRADICTED BY N-Y OTHA SCRIPTURE? AND I WAS TALKIN' BOUT PEOPLE NOT HAVIN' A HEAVENLY DESTINATION AND YOU SWITCH IT UP TO TRY TO TALK ABOUT A PLACE YOU LABEL HELL. HOW DID THE CONVERSATION SWITCH UP? STIK TO THE SUBJECT MATTER.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "You said those who don't make it to heaven will go away for ever with out facing hell."

NO I DIDN'T. YOU ASSUMED THAT. AND I KNOW YOU DID, AND WAS AND WILL. SHIT'S OVER YOUR HEAD AND IT'S SO SIMPLE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Getting into heaven is as easy as accepting Christ as your savior."

NOPE. THE HEAVENLY DESTINY IS ALREADY TOOKEN UP. AND FOR ARgUMENTS SAKE LET'S SAY HEAVEN WAS AN OPTION FOR US HUMANS. IF I KILL 70 AND ACCEPT CHRIST AS MY SAVIOR THE NEXT DAY AFTER I THOUgHT ABOUT IT ,AND I DIED A WEEK AFTER, I'M gOIN' TO HEAVEN RIgHT?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "It's in your heart and not in what you do."

IT'S BOTH.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "There for those who will "burn" in hell are those who rebelled against Christ...."

MEDIEVAL CUZZ. LET THEM BURN HUH? JUST LIKE THAT, ROAST THEM LIKE SOME PIgS AND MAKE CHICHARRONES. LOL

THEN YOU STRESSED, "It's all over the gospels."

SCRIPTURE PLEASE. ATLEAST FIVE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Yes and the abyss is located here on Earth.
The doors to the abyss will be cracked open and Earth will become hell. Everyone who's not picked up by Jesus will remain on Earth and will feel the heat...."

TALK ABOUT THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES HAVIN' THEORIES, HOW ABOUT THE ONE YOU gOT? DO YOU KNOW THE HEBREW WORD FOR HELL AND THE CONTEXT IT WAS USED? BUT WHO SAID THE ABYSS WAS HELL, THE SAME HELL REFERENCED ALL OVER THE SCRIPTURES?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Those who say hell ain't fair...."

HELL LIKE YOU DESCRIBIN' ISN'T FAIR OR MAKES SENSE. I AIN'T BLAMIN' (gOD) FOR SHIT.

AND FOR THE RECORD YOU SOUNDIN' KIND OF SHAKY WITH YOUR BELIEFS. PROOF OF IT IS WHEN SJN14 CAME IN AND gAVE A TEXT TO SUPPORT THE TRINITY BELIEF AND YOU SWITCHED UP TOO QUIK.

 

[nefar559]

King James man.
It's the only version to go by....
Everyone else has added or taken away from it....
By the way,

i dont think so....that version of the bible is unaccurate, and not up to the times.

The Bible, Revised Standard Version

 

[miggidy]

^^^^
LOL!
That version contains the Apocrypha, it's Catholocism....

 

[nefar559]

^^^^
LOL!
That version contains the Apocrypha, it's Catholocism....

http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/rsv.browse.html

Although the writings known as the Apocrypha are often not included in Protestant Bibles, they were translated and included in the original King James Bible of 1611, and they are offered here for use by interested readers.

the ways of religion

The New Revised Standard Version (1989) of the New Testament is a revision of the Revised Standard Version (1952), which, as its title announces, was itself a revision of still earlier revisions going back to the King James Version of 1611. The first revision of the King James Version appeared in 1613.
The King James Version, the most familiar and beloved of all English versions, came to be called the Authorized Version, which may sound like Divine sanction but (disappointingly) had only to do with King James I authorizing its publication in England. The King James Version was, in its turn, based upon still earlier English versions, notably that of William Tyndale. It is estimated that 80 per_cent of the Kings James Version retained Tyndale's phraseology.*
The work of the translators of the Bible goes on continuously for three reasons. First, our own language changes constantly; the meanings and connotations of words do not sit still. Second, the work of recovering the Greek and Hebrew texts of the Old and New Testaments is an ongoing project. There is no original "first edition" of either Testament. The earliest complete New Testament dates from the fourth century; there are fragments from the second and third centuries. Third, more is learned all the time about the Greek and Hebrew languages of the Bible as linguistic and philological studies advance. Discoveries of ancient manuscripts, such as those of the Nag Hammadi Library (1945) and the Dead Sea Scrolls (1947).....

 

[miggidy]

CONTINUATION:

MIggIDY,
YOU STRESSED, "Yes that is why I go by The Word and not what someone else makes out of the Word."

KIND OF LIKE THE BLIND LEADIN' THE BLIND?

Exactly.

WHAT YOU MEAN THEY DELETED HELL FROM THE BIBLE? SHOW ME. AND WHERE IN THE BIBLE DID THEY ADD 1914 AS THE XCOND COMIN' OF CHRIST? TEXT PLEASE.

That’s basically what they did. What do you get out of what Jesus said regarding the end of days? What do you make out of the book of Revelation?
The gospels and Revelation all support this “hell” you see as a theory.

THE CATHOLICS YES, JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, NO. YOU NEED TO DO MORE RESEARCH BEFORE YOU START POINTIN' FINgERS.

Am I right or wrong? A JW’s ticket to heaven lies in his works?
Isn’t that why they’re always at people’s houses tryin to recruit new members?
They compete amongst themselves man cuz 144,000 is a small number.
Not a good way to live….

REVELATION 7:1 DOESN'T SPEAK ON THE 7TH SEAL.

Keep reading.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ALL THAT ASS-KICCIN'. BUT 144,000 IS THE NUMBER.

Revelation says the 144,000 will assist Jesus with his battle against Satan

WHAT AWAITS THEM IS ETERNAL DAMNATION. AND NO I'M NOT TALKIN' ABOUT A PLACE OF TORMENT. BUT SINCE MOST AIN'T gOIN' TO HEAVEN, THEY HAVE AN EARTHLY DESTINATION. I'M TALKIN' ABOUT THE ONES WHO SERVED (gOD) AND DID HIS WILL.

Ok so we agree here to some extent.
I haven’t finished reading Revelation but from what I hear, it does mention a new Earth where everything will be perfect.
Is that correct?

Oh yeah, what do you make out of the great crowd that John saw in Heaven.
Do you think this crowd is the same 144,000?
It seems to me they are not the same ones, but Jesus’s own believers since Revelation says that they will serve the Lamb.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "You are right, but what I meant is that God created us cuz he felt like it.
His plan was for us to reside on this Earth and all, just like you said."

SO WHAT MAKES YOU THINK HE EVA CHANgED HIS MIND OF HIS ORIgINAL PURPOSE?

I don’t think God changed his mind. Satan threw a wrench into his plans.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "But then we wanted to be like him (Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge),
And that’s when we were booted from the garden of Eden (the perfect World you talking about).
Shit changed ever since then, Satan fucked it up for God."

AND SO SATANS WANTS HUMANKIND TO BELIEVE THAT AND THAT WE EITHA gO TO HEAVEN OR HELL. THE TRUTH IS, (gOD) NEVA CHANgED HIS PLAN. SATAN DIDN'T FUK NOTHIN' UP.

So you think this was all God’s plan?
If so then do you think it was part of his plan to create Satan and have him persuade other angels to rebel against God?

I AgREE. INCLUDIN' PEOPLE BELIEVIN' FALSE DOCTRINES THAT ARE NOT BIBLE-BASED.

Same here….

YEAH, YOU SAID THAT SHIT AND YOU JUST BASICALLY SAYIN' SUPERFICIAL SHIT THE ACTUAL JEHOVAH'S WITNESS HATER STRESSES WITHOUT LOOKIN' INTO THE RESEARCH AND FINDIN' TRUTH. AND SCRIPTURE DOESN'T CONTRADICT THAT.

And who’s research was that?
Didn’t Russel also have connections with the occult?

All I’ve seen is theories man.
Would you be kind enough to point me out to this research you talk about cuz I can’t find it anywhere. I don’t think it even exists, it seems to be only a theory.

HOW DOES THE SPIRIT TALK THRU THE SUBCONCIOUS? WHAT DOES IT SAY?

You ever listened to your subconscious?
It’s always right.
It talks to us even when we are conscious but we ain’t listening.
You ever have an answer for a question before a person finishes asking?
You ever find yourself puzzled and scratching your head cuz you can’t figure something out. You then ask yourself the question in your mind and the answer jumps at you out of no where?

It’s the subconscious bro….
People say your first guess is always the correct one.
Or every time you find yourself questioning what you are doing, that’s your subconscious tryin to tell you something.

Listen to it, and follow it’s advice. It’s never wrong and it will always lead you on the right path.

WHERE YOU WORK AT CUZZ?

I’m a building engineer with this software and hardware company, 10 minutes South of Frisco. I only work when something breaks so I get a lot of time to post in here and shit during the day.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "That’s how I find time to post here.
Maybe a few months from now, we’re currently working on our debut so I don’t even have time to eat after work."

WHO IS WE? BUT I'M A BUSY MAN TOO, YET AND STILL I MAKE TIME FOR THIS SHIT. YOU CAN TOO.

My bro’s and I are working on a group album.
I hear you. Well I’ll shoot you an e-mail next week so we can talk. I don’t plan on going to the gym until we finish this shit I’ll make time to talk about this shit.
Fuckin shit has consumed my life, for the better of coarse.
I’m sure you’re going through the same deal.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I peeped out some of the links but I can’t find any info that supports their ideals."

THEN YOU AIN'T LOOKIN' RIgHT. ON THEIR SEARCH ENgINES, THEY gOT TOPICS AND BASIC BELIEFS. YOU CAN E-MAIL THEM WHATEVA INQUIRY.

Yeah, that’s exactly what I wanted to do. I wanted to e-mail them and discuss my disagreements with them.

MIggIDY,
YOU STRESSED, "The link you gave took me to the JW bible."
BULL MUTHA-FUCCIN' SHIT. YOU AIN'T gOT TO LIE. WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE BIBLE THEN? WHO PUBLISHES IT? WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE SITE? I LINKED YOU TO A BIBLE SITE.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Read John 2: 26-27 in the King James version."
I DID. THERE IS NO SUCH SCRIPTURE.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Do you want me to give you a link?
I can do that if you're having trouble finding these 2 lines...."
YES, THANK YOU. I'VE BEEN ASKIN' YOU THIS FOR THE LONgEST. YOU HARD-HEADED OR SOMETHIN'.

I think you got that hat on too tight bro. LOL!
Peep this:
http://www.bibleontheweb.com/Bible.asp

You know what’s so ironic?
You guys are missing 2 lines that speak about muthafuckas who try to deceive people by twistin the scripture.
Coincedence?
LOL!
“26These things I have written to you concerning those who try to deceive you. 27But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him.”

Continued....

 

[miggidy]

FIFTY FIRST OF ALL,
FUK KINg JAMES.
XCONDLY,
THERE'S FLAWS IN THE KINg JAMES VERSION TO FIT THE DOCTRINES OF THOSE TIMES.
THIRDLY,
YOU SHOULD START LOOKIN' INTO THE REAL LANgUAgES THE BIBLE WERE WRITTEN IN AND RESEARCH THE WORDS USED IN THE INSTANCES THEY WERE USED IN IF IN DOUBT.

Sounds like Jehova Wittnesses talk.
But I'll try to find those flaws you claim it has.

YOU ARE REALLY LOST MAN. AND YOU WERE JUST SAYIN' THAT YOU CAN ALMOST SEE THE WHOLE PICTURE. WELL, ATLEAST THE JEOVAH'S WITNESSES KNOW WHO THE OTHA SHEEP ARE AND PREACH THAT LIKE A SCIENCE. KNOWLEDgE IS POWER BRUH.

LOL! You tellin me????

YOU SEEM MORE LOST BY THE POST CUZZ. THE HEBREW WORD ELOHIM IS "gOD" WHICH IS A TITLE. JEHOVAH IS A PRONUNCIATION SOME USE FOR THE FOUR CONSONANTS YHWH WHICH IS THE TETRAgRAMMATON FOR THE DIVINE NAME. YOU NEED TO STUDY MORE INSTEAD OF MAKIN' ACCUSATIONS.

Elohim is plural for God. And the word LORD refers to a single Elohim called Jehova.

SOUNDS ABOUT RIgHT EXCEPT FOR YOU THROWIN' THE WORD TRINITY UP IN THERE.

Call it what you will, you can call it a tag team but I'll call it a trinity.

YEAH, CAUSE THEY ALL ONE IN MIND. BUT IT WASN'T STATED THAT HE WAS BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF THE "HOLY TRINITY"? FIND ME A SCRIPTURE WHERE IT SAYS HOLY TRINITY AND I'LL SHUT THE FUK UP.

LOL! What's the difference then?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "LOL! I thought you knew playa....
I'll look it up and give you the details later."
FUK WHAT YOU THINK I KNOW. WHAT DO YOU KNOW?

I know this is pissing you off hahahaha....

WHAT YOU gET OUT OF IT IS YOUR PERCEPTION. AND YOU HAVE OPENED MY EYES(TO SEE WHAT'S IN YOUR DOME, OTHA THAN THAT, I DON'T SEE IT). BUT I THOUgHT YOU SAID JESUS WAS THE ONE THAT OPENED THE 7TH SEAL? NOW YOU SAYIN' THE HOLY SPIRIT DOES? MAKE UP YOUR MIND AND BAK IT WITH SCRIPTURE.

Follow me bro, Jesus opens the seal which removes the Spirit.
Read Revelation.

AND THE WORD OF JESUS IS MISINTERPRETTED BY YOU. WHAT BOOK, CHAPTER, VERSE IS THIS LOCATED IN? IS IT CONTRADICTED BY N-Y OTHA SCRIPTURE? AND I WAS TALKIN' BOUT PEOPLE NOT HAVIN' A HEAVENLY DESTINATION AND YOU SWITCH IT UP TO TRY TO TALK ABOUT A PLACE YOU LABEL HELL. HOW DID THE CONVERSATION SWITCH UP? STIK TO THE SUBJECT MATTER.

Haven't you read the scripture?
It's all over the gospels, Jesus always talks about this. Anyone who reads them has come across this.
As for me switching it up, I didn't. You just ain't followin me, maybe I'm not explainin shit well but I'm tryin my best.
I was talkin about them people who you say don't have a heavenly destination.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "You said those who don't make it to heaven will go away for ever with out facing hell."
NO I DIDN'T. YOU ASSUMED THAT. AND I KNOW YOU DID, AND WAS AND WILL. SHIT'S OVER YOUR HEAD AND IT'S SO SIMPLE.

Well then what do you have to say "now" about those who miss the ticket to Heaven? What's their destiny?

NOPE. THE HEAVENLY DESTINY IS ALREADY TOOKEN UP. AND FOR ARgUMENTS SAKE LET'S SAY HEAVEN WAS AN OPTION FOR US HUMANS. IF I KILL 70 AND ACCEPT CHRIST AS MY SAVIOR THE NEXT DAY AFTER I THOUgHT ABOUT IT ,AND I DIED A WEEK AFTER, I'M gOIN' TO HEAVEN RIgHT?

I know you won't agree since you're coming from a JW background but for the sake of not arguing this one, I'll go along.
According to Jesus, yes even murderers can be saved.
But you cannot fool God, he knows if you really are sincere with your repentance.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "It's in your heart and not in what you do."
IT'S BOTH.

True, because one with a good heart will produce good works.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "There for those who will "burn" in hell are those who rebelled against Christ...."
MEDIEVAL CUZZ. LET THEM BURN HUH? JUST LIKE THAT, ROAST THEM LIKE SOME PIgS AND MAKE CHICHARRONES. LOL

Denial is a common reaction

THEN YOU STRESSED, "It's all over the gospels."
SCRIPTURE PLEASE. ATLEAST FIVE.

You claim that you’ve made your choices according to what you know.
How could you miss this?
I’m not here to do your research.
I ain’t lying so the burden is on you.
I thought we were having this convo because you knew at least as much as I did.
“Seek and you shall find”
Jesus….

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Yes and the abyss is located here on Earth.
The doors to the abyss will be cracked open and Earth will become hell. Everyone who's not picked up by Jesus will remain on Earth and will feel the heat...."
TALK ABOUT THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES HAVIN' THEORIES, HOW ABOUT THE ONE YOU gOT? DO YOU KNOW THE HEBREW WORD FOR HELL AND THE CONTEXT IT WAS USED? BUT WHO SAID THE ABYSS WAS HELL, THE SAME HELL REFERENCED ALL OVER THE SCRIPTURES?

Hey man, it’s my personal theory regarding what I have learned thus far.
You don’t see me writing my own version of the scripture, twisting it around to best suite my personal ideals.
Knowingly preaching false shit is faulty….

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Those who say hell ain't fair...."
HELL LIKE YOU DESCRIBIN' ISN'T FAIR OR MAKES SENSE. I AIN'T BLAMIN' (gOD) FOR SHIT.

Well you’re contradicting the Word of Christ.

AND FOR THE RECORD YOU SOUNDIN' KIND OF SHAKY WITH YOUR BELIEFS. PROOF OF IT IS WHEN SJN14 CAME IN AND gAVE A TEXT TO SUPPORT THE TRINITY BELIEF AND YOU SWITCHED UP TOO QUIK.

LOL! I said they made good points but go back and read that stuff in case you didn’t.
The argument can easily be made that none of that was proof that Jesus and the Father are the same. All of that just underlined what I’ve been saying, go ahead and peep it out yourself. It basically pointed out to the father and son relationship that Jesus and the Father share.

 

[miggidy]

@Nefar,

You know that without the Apocrypha, the bible has a perfect and concealed equasion right?

 

[miggidy]

i actually really wonder what seperates people from being atheist or religious, if it goes beyond intelligence, mode of thinking, level of brain activity etc. im spritual in other ways, i still believe having a soul/conscience whatever you wanna call it, hopefully theres something after death because this government works us like slaves, 40 hours a week...fuck that bullshit, cant retire till im like 60?? i cant believe people settle for that shit, there better be an enjoyable afterlife.

I hear you.
Work your ass off while you're young, make some other man rich, and then retire your ass while some younger guy replaces you to keep the cycle going.
Something's really fucked up right here....

I keep tellin folks that it is the rich who run everything.
They control us like livestock....

They are the evil people of this world....

 

[miggidy]

i always thought it was because of King James and him wanting to Divorce his wife and marry another??? or something like that

Go peep out that new movie, "Luther" or "Martin Luther"....
He split up with the Church because he saw how corrupt it became.
It was he who rebuked the Apocrypha when the church tried adding it to the bible.

He did a lot of good things for the church but it didn't matter cuz his side fell under corruption as well.

Moral of the story is?
Don't split off from your brothers, confront and solve your disagreements....

Satan will always divide us....


That's why I'm here, even though I disagree with a lot of cats here, I still consider you guys friends.

You say God is your Father, EDJ, Heresy, Nefar, and everyone else says the same. The way I look at it, if God is your Father then you must be my brother....

i can believe that, because i have seen that also.

Why do you think it's like that man?
Do you blame the people for being ignorant or do you blame the Church?
Do you think they learned that from the church, or on their own?

 

[MEXCOM]

Well I'm not joining the which is the faker religion because I believe all it leads to is shit talking. As it already has. But that bible text does prove something. If you don't believe that read the link I posted to Miggidy it has lots of examples in which Jesus did things that Only God could have done with no reprecussions.

SJN14,
I SEE THAT YOU WANNA JOIN THE CONVO WITH ONE BIBLE TEXT THAT DOESN'T PROVE NOTHIN' BUT THAT THE FATHER, SON, AND HOLY SPIRIT ARE ONE( IN MIND, AS A TEAM, AND PURPOSE).

That's not the only text of the bible there are more.
BUT LET ME ADDRESS EACH OF YOUR COMMENTS:


YOU STRESSED, "You're both Wrong. God is Jesus, Jesus is God, God is the holy spirit, Jesus is the holy Spirit and they are all equal.
Read The first John 5:7."

YOU'RE WRONg. YOU INTERPRETIN' THAT TEXT WRONg TO TRY TO BAK YOUR DOCTRINE. I CAN gIVE YOU MANY MORE BIBLE TEXTS THAT TRINITARIANS TRY TO USE TO HOLD UP THAT FAKE DOCTRINE. TELL ME THIS. WHY AIN'T THE WORD TRINITY IN THE BIBLE IF IT'S SO HOLY?[/QUOTE]
Just because the word trinity does not appear in the bible does not mean that it doesn't exist. We all know that There is a Jesus a God and a Holy Spirit. They appear in the bible.
Now let's take a closer look at God.
There are 2 verses where God the Father speaks of himself in the a plural form.
Gen. 1:26 says, "Let us create man in our own image."
Isa. 6:8 says, "Also, I heard the voice of the Lord saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?"
Now if God was a single entity why would he speak of himself in the 3rd person?

AND IF ALL ARE EQUAL WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT MATT. 12:31,32? IF THEY ARE ALL EQUAL, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT JOHN 14:28? IF THEY ARE ALL EQUAL, THEN WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT 1 COR 11:3? IF THEY ARE ALL EQUAL, THEN WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT 1 COR. 15:27, 28?
[/QUOTE]
Matt 12:31,32 doesn't disprove the Trinity. It doesn't make Jesus seem less of an equal to the Holy Spirit.
John 14:28- Jesus said that because at the time Jesus was a Man and a Man cannot be greater than a God, especially not greater than THE God. Jesus unlike the father and the holy spirit has two natures. He is God and a Man. Thus as a man he is not greater than the Father. He was a man for a purpose as we remember; to die for our sins.
1 Cor. 11:3- Once again they talk about Jesus the Man not Jesus the God.
1 Cor. 15:27-28
Well 1 Cor.15:28 reads:
28)And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then the Son also himself shall be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
It says, "the Son (Jesus the Man) also himself (also God) shall be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all." Now at first it seems like the Father will Rule over all even Jesus the Son, but this is not true. Also himself refers to Jesus the God, not the Man. So the Man is less then the God but Jesus the God and God the Father and the Holy Spirit will be all.
What about 1 Timothy 3:16 where Paul Said Jesus was God manifested in the flesh.
"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the nations, believed on in the world, received up into glory."
God was manifisted in the Flesh, Jesus is God in a human body.
Then we have John 20:28 when Thomas called Jesus God.
"And Thomas answered, and said unto him, My Lord and my God."
Now why would he call Jesus his Lord and God if he was not God?
Then we have Colosians 2:8,9:

8 Beware lest any man cheat you by philosophy and vain deceit: according to the tradition of men according to the elements of the world and not according to Christ.

9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead corporeally
Then in Titus 2:13-14 Paul said Jesus was God

13 Looking for the blessed hope and coming of the glory of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ.

14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity and might cleanse to himself a people acceptable, a pursuer of good works.
There are more Verses that have the Bible, Apostles, and Jesus himself claiming him to be God than there are of him NOT being God. Here is a link.

http://www.biblehelp.org/reference_2.htm

I COULD gO ON AND ON, BUT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THE WORD OF (gOD) SAYS AND NOT JUST LOOK AT ONE TEXT THAT CAN POSSIBLY BE MISINTERPRETED. [/QUOTE]
I provided more text for you. It's not just one it's alot.

 

[MEXCOM]

Good points,

@EDJ, peep this out.

Now SJN,
if Jesus and the Father are the same entity, as this website claims, then it's safe to say there is no Holy Trinity right?

Yes EDJ please check the link it has lots of good info.
Secondly No. God and Jesus are the same whole but comprised of 3 seperate entities. Remember how physics tells us that you can't be in two places at once, well I don't think that applies to God. If he is all powerfull he can seperate himself into 3 and still be one.
Secondly about Jesus praying as the others were Sleeping if they were or not it doesn't matter because we have to remember that Jesus has to sides to himself. He is a man and he is a God. Jesus the man could have prayed to the father whom is God.

 

[miggidy]

Yes but doesn't Jesus sit to the right of the Father at the throne in heaven?

This is what Jesus said, and it's backed up by the book of Revelation AKA the Apoccalypse (I think that's how you spell it) in the Catholic bible....

 

[MEXCOM]

Quote:
Originally posted by EDJ
FIFTY FIRST OF ALL,
FUK KINg JAMES.
XCONDLY,
THERE'S FLAWS IN THE KINg JAMES VERSION TO FIT THE DOCTRINES OF THOSE TIMES.
THIRDLY,
YOU SHOULD START LOOKIN' INTO THE REAL LANgUAgES THE BIBLE WERE WRITTEN IN AND RESEARCH THE WORDS USED IN THE INSTANCES THEY WERE USED IN IF IN DOUBT.

Miggiy EDJ is right. Lot os people seem to hate the Catholic bible you two seem to not like it but infact the Kings James Version is WAY more fucked up than anything you can find. If anything the Douay-Rheims version is one of the most accurate versions you can find. You stated to like the Kings James Version because those other ones made your head hurt, but the Kings James Version took a lot of Words and simplified things somethimes losing the texts meaning. Like those Verses you claim that you can find but EDJ and My self cannot. Are those exclusive to the Kings James Version?
Here are 2 links with some errors of about the Kings James Version, not sure if EDJ was talking about these also:
http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/kjverror.html
http://www.bible.org/docs/soapbox/versions.htm

YOU SEEM MORE LOST BY THE POST CUZZ. THE HEBREW WORD ELOHIM IS "gOD" WHICH IS A TITLE. JEHOVAH IS A PRONUNCIATION SOME USE FOR THE FOUR CONSONANTS YHWH WHICH IS THE TETRAgRAMMATON FOR THE DIVINE NAME. YOU NEED TO STUDY MORE INSTEAD OF MAKIN' ACCUSATIONS.

EDJ did you know hebrew Word Elohim is not "God." Elohim is plural. This is further proof of a trinity. God is one god, but he is 3 different entities. It's in the bible and some things can be lost in the translation but Elohim is plural.

 

[MEXCOM]

Yes but doesn't Jesus sit to the right of the Father at the throne in heaven?

This is what Jesus said, and it's backed up by the book of Revelation AKA the Apoccalypse (I think that's how you spell it) in the Catholic bible....

Can you give me the exact place where I can find it. I do remember something of that sort, but we must remember that Jesus is not dead. He is still the Man/God Jesus we know. And tho the Man is less than the God the God is equal to himself.

 

[miggidy]

Man you and EDJ are killing me.
Got me doin ya'll homework LOL!

I'll get you that information sometime tommorrow if not on Monday. But trust me, it's there.

 

[MEXCOM]

My bad, what part do you want me to look up on my own?