THE FAKEST RELIgION
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Where do you want me to start?
I can point out all the lies or misinterpretations J.W.'s have made and it will take a up a whole page but I'll just point out the most ridiculous claim. Their claim that Jesus has already returned for the second time. You know that Charles Taze Russell's interpretations are waaaayyyyy off. Can you explain to me how is it that he concluded that Jesus is already here?
Didn't he read the bible at all????
How can he miss the gospel of John and the book of Revelations?
Not to mention the Enochian scripture.
Seriously bro,
read the bible and compare it to what these hypocrites are preaching out there.
Not one of these misguided denominations is staying true to Jesus's teachings.
The Word is Jesus.
We have the Word recorded in scripture.
It hasn't been tainted, although there's been attempts. Such as Catholics and Protestants.... And J.W.'s are doing the same thing with these "taintings" whom they have no evidence for.
There's thousands of different linguistic versions of the New Testiment, and they are all the same.
There is no tampering, the truth speaks for itself bro.
But these Christian denominations all want to twist the scripture around to best suit their agendas.
Look at all of them, they all have their human "selfish" inflicted flaws....
Where do you want me to start?
I can point out all the lies or misinterpretations J.W.'s have made and it will take a up a whole page but I'll just point out the most ridiculous claim. Their claim that Jesus has already returned for the second time. You know that Charles Taze Russell's interpretations are waaaayyyyy off. Can you explain to me how is it that he concluded that Jesus is already here?
Didn't he read the bible at all????
How can he miss the gospel of John and the book of Revelations?
Not to mention the Enochian scripture.
Seriously bro,
read the bible and compare it to what these hypocrites are preaching out there.
Not one of these misguided denominations is staying true to Jesus's teachings.
The Word is Jesus.
We have the Word recorded in scripture.
It hasn't been tainted, although there's been attempts. Such as Catholics and Protestants.... And J.W.'s are doing the same thing with these "taintings" whom they have no evidence for.
There's thousands of different linguistic versions of the New Testiment, and they are all the same.
There is no tampering, the truth speaks for itself bro.
But these Christian denominations all want to twist the scripture around to best suit their agendas.
Look at all of them, they all have their human "selfish" inflicted flaws....
^^^^
J.W.'s claim that there is only one religious organization, and that is the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.
That is not true. Read John 2: 26 – 27. Also the book of Revelation, read what Jesus told the "7" churches that existed after his death....
J.W.'s believe that God has a personal name, implying that there is other Gods.
This goes against the teaching of Christ. Sh.. even the Old Testiment.... You know that the word Jehova's not even a real name, but only a misenterpretation....
J.W.'s deny Christ’s divinity
JW's identify Christ as the Archangel Michael. They say Christ was just another creation of God. Why is that? JW's mistranslate the book of John when he says, "And the Word was God". They think he says, "And the Word was a God".
Blame Charles Russell for this little mistake....
Didn't he read the Old Testiment as well?
It's prophetic books also back up the gospels regarding Christ....
JW's don't believe in the Trinity and a personal Holy Spirit
True, the Holy Trinity is not mentioned in the gospels. The term itself isn't but everything else in the scripture talks about it.
The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are mentioned together over 60 times in the New Testiment.
Peep this....
“‘I tell you the truth,’ Jesus answered, ‘before Abraham was born, I am!’” (John 8: 58)
“In answer Thomas said to Him: ‘My Lord and my God!’” (John 20: 28)
Read these carefully and think about their meanings and implications....
WJ's believe that death ends personal existence
So you think there is no hell?
You think that people who don't get their ticket to Heaven are just erased? Where do you get this idea?
Haven't you read Corithians? Earth is hell....
Speakin about after death, JW's believe that there are two classes of Christians; the anointed ones and the great crowd
How much do you know about these? Did you know that the 144,000 anointed ones are actually male virgin saints?
I guess the JW ladies who come out knocking on my door ain't going to heaven eh?
This is very misleading bro, you've got all these JW's thinking that salvation is based on works. Read what Jesus said, salvation isn't based on works alone. It's what's in your heart that counts. It is out of the kindness of your heart that you will perform good works....
Think about this bro, you will soon understand that JW's are misenterpretating the scripture....
*tired*
those are just a few but please take some time off to read them and ponder upon them.
So man, don't take this as a debate. I want you to seriously look into this and ask yourself if the teachings of Charles Russell make any sense at all. They are heavily flawd....
J.W.'s claim that there is only one religious organization, and that is the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.
That is not true. Read John 2: 26 – 27. Also the book of Revelation, read what Jesus told the "7" churches that existed after his death....
J.W.'s believe that God has a personal name, implying that there is other Gods.
This goes against the teaching of Christ. Sh.. even the Old Testiment.... You know that the word Jehova's not even a real name, but only a misenterpretation....
J.W.'s deny Christ’s divinity
JW's identify Christ as the Archangel Michael. They say Christ was just another creation of God. Why is that? JW's mistranslate the book of John when he says, "And the Word was God". They think he says, "And the Word was a God".
Blame Charles Russell for this little mistake....
Didn't he read the Old Testiment as well?
It's prophetic books also back up the gospels regarding Christ....
JW's don't believe in the Trinity and a personal Holy Spirit
True, the Holy Trinity is not mentioned in the gospels. The term itself isn't but everything else in the scripture talks about it.
The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are mentioned together over 60 times in the New Testiment.
Peep this....
“‘I tell you the truth,’ Jesus answered, ‘before Abraham was born, I am!’” (John 8: 58)
“In answer Thomas said to Him: ‘My Lord and my God!’” (John 20: 28)
Read these carefully and think about their meanings and implications....
WJ's believe that death ends personal existence
So you think there is no hell?
You think that people who don't get their ticket to Heaven are just erased? Where do you get this idea?
Haven't you read Corithians? Earth is hell....
Speakin about after death, JW's believe that there are two classes of Christians; the anointed ones and the great crowd
How much do you know about these? Did you know that the 144,000 anointed ones are actually male virgin saints?
I guess the JW ladies who come out knocking on my door ain't going to heaven eh?
This is very misleading bro, you've got all these JW's thinking that salvation is based on works. Read what Jesus said, salvation isn't based on works alone. It's what's in your heart that counts. It is out of the kindness of your heart that you will perform good works....
Think about this bro, you will soon understand that JW's are misenterpretating the scripture....
*tired*
those are just a few but please take some time off to read them and ponder upon them.
So man, don't take this as a debate. I want you to seriously look into this and ask yourself if the teachings of Charles Russell make any sense at all. They are heavily flawd....
LOL@MIggIDY SOUNDIN' LIKE HE FOLLOWIN' MISCONCEPTIONS.
FIFTY FIRST OF ALL,
FUK CHARLES TAZE RUSSELL.
XCONDLY,
YOU STUDY TOO AND LOOK INTO RESEARCH.
3RDLY,
I AIN'T NO MUTHAFUCCIN' JEHOVAH'S WITNESS. I KNOW THEY SPITTIN' MORE TRUTH'S AND READIN' AND STUDYIN' THE BIBLE MORE THAN CATHOLICS. THAT'S ALL I WAS STRESSIN'. QUESTION ALL YOUR DOUBTS AND QUESTIONS TO CATHOLICS AND SEE HOW THEY REACT. AND THEN DO THE SAME TO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. BRINg ALL YOUR QUESTIONS TO ONE TO STUDY OVER WHAT THEY BELIEVE AND WHY AND THE FACTS BEHIND IT ALONg WITH SCRIPTURE. SO HOW THEY REACT. BUT DO IT IN RESPECTFUL, INTELLLECTUAL MANNER, NOT BLASPHEMOUSLY.
BUT LET ME BREAK IT ON DOWN CAUSE SOME OF THOSE SO-CALLED FLAWS WE SPOKE ON ON DIFFERENT THREADS AND YOU NEVA SPOKE DOWN ON THE SHIT TIL NOW........
YOU STRESSED, "J.W.'s claim that there is only one religious organization, and that is the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.
That is not true. Read John 2: 26 – 27. Also the book of Revelation, read what Jesus told the "7" churches that existed after his death...."
IN WHAT BIBLE YOU READIN' THAT OFF OF? WHAT DOES IT SAY?
BUT THEY BELIEVE THEY (gOD'S) PEOPLE, JUST LIKE EVERY RELIgION DOES.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "J.W.'s believe that God has a personal name, implying that there is other Gods.
This goes against the teaching of Christ. Sh.. even the Old Testiment.... You know that the word Jehova's not even a real name, but only a misenterpretation...."
HOW YOU KNOW JEHOVAH AIN'T THE RIgHT PRONUNCIATION FOR "YHWH". I SUggEST YOU gO BAK AND READ THAT THREAD I LEFT ENTITLE PRONUNCIATION OF YHWH. THERE'S A LINK AND IT'S NOT A JEHOVAH'S WITNESS LINK(IN CASE YOU ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT HATE THEM THAT MUCH) EITHA, THAT gOES INTO DETAIL ABOUT THE NAME AND THE LANgUAgE IT WAS WRITTEN IN. VERY INTERESTIN'. AND OF COURSE THERE'S OTHA gOD'S. SATAN IS A gOD. JESUS IS A gOD, MONEY IS A gOD, AND N-E-THANg BEIN' WORSHIPPED IS A gOD BUT NONE IS THE ALMIgHTY gOD, BUT YHWH(HOWEVA YOU WANNA PRONOUNCE IT).
THEN YOU STRESSED, "J.W.'s deny Christ’s divinity
JW's identify Christ as the Archangel Michael. They say Christ was just another creation of God. Why is that? JW's mistranslate the book of John when he says, "And the Word was God". They think he says, "And the Word was a God".
Blame Charles Russell for this little mistake....
Didn't he read the Old Testiment as well?
It's prophetic books also back up the gospels regarding Christ...."
THEY DON'T JUST SAY JESUS WAS JUST ANOTHA CREATION CAUSE OF ONE TEXT THAT YOU SAY IS A MISTRANSLATION. EVIDENCE IN SCRIPTURE THRU-OUT THE BIBLE POINT TO THAT. THAT'S WHY YOU gOT JOHN 8:58 THAT SAYS BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS BORN, I AM. MEANIN' HE WAS CREATED BEFORE HIM. JESUS IS THE ONLY-BEgOTTEN SON. HE IS THE FIRST BORN IN ALL CREATION. HE WAS CREATED BEFORE EVERYTHANg. SO OF COURSE HE WAS AN ANgEL(A SPIRIT).
AND WHERE YOU gET OFF THAT THAT TRANSLATION IN THE BOOK OF JOHN IS MISTRANSLATED? HAVE YOU ASKED WHY THIS TEXT RENDERED LIKE THAT? OR ARE YOU QUIK TO JUDgE AND gET YOUR INFO FROM ANTI-JEHOVAH WITNESSES SITES WITHOUT WONDERIN' WHY IT WAS DONE LIKE THAT?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "JW's don't believe in the Trinity and a personal Holy Spirit
True, the Holy Trinity is not mentioned in the gospels. The term itself isn't but everything else in the scripture talks about it.
The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are mentioned together over 60 times in the New Testiment.
Peep this....
“‘I tell you the truth,’ Jesus answered, ‘before Abraham was born, I am!’” (John 8: 58)
“In answer Thomas said to Him: ‘My Lord and my God!’” (John 20: 28)
Read these carefully and think about their meanings and implications...."
MAN, I DONE THOUgHT ABOUT THAT AND I KNOW WHY JESUS SAID HE WAS BEFORE ABRAHAM. READ ATOP. IF SOMETHIN' IS SO HOLY WHY AIN'T THE WORD USED FOR IT. (gOD'S) NAME IS FOUND IN THE SCRIPTURES. JESUS NAME IS TOO. BUT THE WORD "TRINITY" IS NOT. THAT'S ONE THANg YOU SHOULD CHEK. THAT'S AN INDICATOR. ALL THOSE 60 TIMES CAN BE MISTRANSLATED AS ALL BEIN' ONE PHYSICALLY, SPIRITUALLY, AND IN IDENTITY. SO THERE'S HAS TO BE SOMETHIN' SOLID THAT SOLIDIFIES AS THE TRINITY TO BE TRUE AND HOLY. I CAN gO FURTHER HOW THE TRINITY CAME INTO EXISTENCE IN THE 4TH CENTURY AND WAS NOT PART OF REAL CHRISTIANITY.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "WJ's believe that death ends personal existence
So you think there is no hell?
You think that people who don't get their ticket to Heaven are just erased? Where do you get this idea?
Haven't you read Corithians? Earth is hell...."
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE. FUK NAW THERE AIN'T NO HELL. HELL IS YOUR gRAVE. LOgICALLY IT DON'T MAKE SENSE. WHY THE FUK A gOD OF LOVE WANT TO TORTURE A HUMAN BEIN' FOR SOME MEASILY YEARS OF SIN? HOW IN THE FUK YOU BURN FOREVA? THAT SHIT SOUND LIKE SOME MEDIEVAL TYPE OF THINKIN'. AND HOW YOU FIgURE HEAVEN IS THE REWARD?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Speakin about after death, JW's believe that there are two classes of Christians; the anointed ones and the great crowd
How much do you know about these? Did you know that the 144,000 anointed ones are actually male virgin saints?
I guess the JW ladies who come out knocking on my door ain't going to heaven eh?
This is very misleading bro, you've got all these JW's thinking that salvation is based on works. Read what Jesus said, salvation isn't based on works alone. It's what's in your heart that counts. It is out of the kindness of your heart that you will perform good works....
Think about this bro, you will soon understand that JW's are misenterpretating the scripture...."
I KNOW THEY TEACH THAT. AND I BELIEVE IT. AND THAT BEIN' MALE VIRgINS IS SYMBOLIC. YOU NEED TO TRANSLATE AND DECIPHER BETTER. YOU SHOULD HEAR A WITNESS OUT AND ATLEAST INFORM YOURSELF AS TO WHY THEY TRANSLATE SCRIPTURE HOW THEY DO. IT SEEMS LIKE YOU CLINgED ON TO YOUR BELIEFS YOU gREW UP WITH EVEN THOUgH YOU SWITCHED TO CHRISTIAN FROM CATHOLIC. LET THE LIES gO. MOST OF US AIN'T gOT A HEAVENLY DESTINATION. IT WASN'T (gOD)'S PURPOSE FROM JUMP. DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT WAS (gOD)'S ORIgINAL PURPOSE FOR MAN?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "those are just a few but please take some time off to read them and ponder upon them.
So man, don't take this as a debate. I want you to seriously look into this and ask yourself if the teachings of Charles Russell make any sense at all. They are heavily flawd...."
FIFTY FIRST OF ALL,
LIKE I SAID BEFORE, FUK CHRLES TAZE RUSSELL.
XCONDLY,
YOU NAMIN' SOME RESEARCH AND SHIT HE HELPED ORgANIZE TO DISCREDIT THE RESEARCH ITSELF. I DON'T DWELL ON MEN. I SEE IF WHAT HE SPITTIN' IS TRUE OR NOT BASED ON RESEARCH AND HISTORICAL FACTS, BACCED WITH SCRIPTURAL TESTAMENT. YOU SHOULD DO THE SAME. DON'T JUST ASSUME IT'S A FLAW(S). AND DON'T ASSUME IT HIS TEACHINgS, LIKE HE SHOULD BE WORSHIPPED OR SAMETHIN'. HE WAS NOTHIN' BUT A STUDENT OF THE BIBLE AND SERVER OF (gOD). NOTHIN' MORE, NOTHIN' LESS.
THEY'RE NOT HIS TEACHINgS. THE SHIT WAS THERE BEFORE HIM.
BUT I WOULD LOVE TO CONTINUE THIS CONVO CAUSE NOW IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE OPENIN' UP.
FIFTY FIRST OF ALL,
FUK CHARLES TAZE RUSSELL.
XCONDLY,
YOU STUDY TOO AND LOOK INTO RESEARCH.
3RDLY,
I AIN'T NO MUTHAFUCCIN' JEHOVAH'S WITNESS. I KNOW THEY SPITTIN' MORE TRUTH'S AND READIN' AND STUDYIN' THE BIBLE MORE THAN CATHOLICS. THAT'S ALL I WAS STRESSIN'. QUESTION ALL YOUR DOUBTS AND QUESTIONS TO CATHOLICS AND SEE HOW THEY REACT. AND THEN DO THE SAME TO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. BRINg ALL YOUR QUESTIONS TO ONE TO STUDY OVER WHAT THEY BELIEVE AND WHY AND THE FACTS BEHIND IT ALONg WITH SCRIPTURE. SO HOW THEY REACT. BUT DO IT IN RESPECTFUL, INTELLLECTUAL MANNER, NOT BLASPHEMOUSLY.
BUT LET ME BREAK IT ON DOWN CAUSE SOME OF THOSE SO-CALLED FLAWS WE SPOKE ON ON DIFFERENT THREADS AND YOU NEVA SPOKE DOWN ON THE SHIT TIL NOW........
YOU STRESSED, "J.W.'s claim that there is only one religious organization, and that is the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.
That is not true. Read John 2: 26 – 27. Also the book of Revelation, read what Jesus told the "7" churches that existed after his death...."
IN WHAT BIBLE YOU READIN' THAT OFF OF? WHAT DOES IT SAY?
BUT THEY BELIEVE THEY (gOD'S) PEOPLE, JUST LIKE EVERY RELIgION DOES.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "J.W.'s believe that God has a personal name, implying that there is other Gods.
This goes against the teaching of Christ. Sh.. even the Old Testiment.... You know that the word Jehova's not even a real name, but only a misenterpretation...."
HOW YOU KNOW JEHOVAH AIN'T THE RIgHT PRONUNCIATION FOR "YHWH". I SUggEST YOU gO BAK AND READ THAT THREAD I LEFT ENTITLE PRONUNCIATION OF YHWH. THERE'S A LINK AND IT'S NOT A JEHOVAH'S WITNESS LINK(IN CASE YOU ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT HATE THEM THAT MUCH) EITHA, THAT gOES INTO DETAIL ABOUT THE NAME AND THE LANgUAgE IT WAS WRITTEN IN. VERY INTERESTIN'. AND OF COURSE THERE'S OTHA gOD'S. SATAN IS A gOD. JESUS IS A gOD, MONEY IS A gOD, AND N-E-THANg BEIN' WORSHIPPED IS A gOD BUT NONE IS THE ALMIgHTY gOD, BUT YHWH(HOWEVA YOU WANNA PRONOUNCE IT).
THEN YOU STRESSED, "J.W.'s deny Christ’s divinity
JW's identify Christ as the Archangel Michael. They say Christ was just another creation of God. Why is that? JW's mistranslate the book of John when he says, "And the Word was God". They think he says, "And the Word was a God".
Blame Charles Russell for this little mistake....
Didn't he read the Old Testiment as well?
It's prophetic books also back up the gospels regarding Christ...."
THEY DON'T JUST SAY JESUS WAS JUST ANOTHA CREATION CAUSE OF ONE TEXT THAT YOU SAY IS A MISTRANSLATION. EVIDENCE IN SCRIPTURE THRU-OUT THE BIBLE POINT TO THAT. THAT'S WHY YOU gOT JOHN 8:58 THAT SAYS BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS BORN, I AM. MEANIN' HE WAS CREATED BEFORE HIM. JESUS IS THE ONLY-BEgOTTEN SON. HE IS THE FIRST BORN IN ALL CREATION. HE WAS CREATED BEFORE EVERYTHANg. SO OF COURSE HE WAS AN ANgEL(A SPIRIT).
AND WHERE YOU gET OFF THAT THAT TRANSLATION IN THE BOOK OF JOHN IS MISTRANSLATED? HAVE YOU ASKED WHY THIS TEXT RENDERED LIKE THAT? OR ARE YOU QUIK TO JUDgE AND gET YOUR INFO FROM ANTI-JEHOVAH WITNESSES SITES WITHOUT WONDERIN' WHY IT WAS DONE LIKE THAT?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "JW's don't believe in the Trinity and a personal Holy Spirit
True, the Holy Trinity is not mentioned in the gospels. The term itself isn't but everything else in the scripture talks about it.
The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are mentioned together over 60 times in the New Testiment.
Peep this....
“‘I tell you the truth,’ Jesus answered, ‘before Abraham was born, I am!’” (John 8: 58)
“In answer Thomas said to Him: ‘My Lord and my God!’” (John 20: 28)
Read these carefully and think about their meanings and implications...."
MAN, I DONE THOUgHT ABOUT THAT AND I KNOW WHY JESUS SAID HE WAS BEFORE ABRAHAM. READ ATOP. IF SOMETHIN' IS SO HOLY WHY AIN'T THE WORD USED FOR IT. (gOD'S) NAME IS FOUND IN THE SCRIPTURES. JESUS NAME IS TOO. BUT THE WORD "TRINITY" IS NOT. THAT'S ONE THANg YOU SHOULD CHEK. THAT'S AN INDICATOR. ALL THOSE 60 TIMES CAN BE MISTRANSLATED AS ALL BEIN' ONE PHYSICALLY, SPIRITUALLY, AND IN IDENTITY. SO THERE'S HAS TO BE SOMETHIN' SOLID THAT SOLIDIFIES AS THE TRINITY TO BE TRUE AND HOLY. I CAN gO FURTHER HOW THE TRINITY CAME INTO EXISTENCE IN THE 4TH CENTURY AND WAS NOT PART OF REAL CHRISTIANITY.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "WJ's believe that death ends personal existence
So you think there is no hell?
You think that people who don't get their ticket to Heaven are just erased? Where do you get this idea?
Haven't you read Corithians? Earth is hell...."
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE. FUK NAW THERE AIN'T NO HELL. HELL IS YOUR gRAVE. LOgICALLY IT DON'T MAKE SENSE. WHY THE FUK A gOD OF LOVE WANT TO TORTURE A HUMAN BEIN' FOR SOME MEASILY YEARS OF SIN? HOW IN THE FUK YOU BURN FOREVA? THAT SHIT SOUND LIKE SOME MEDIEVAL TYPE OF THINKIN'. AND HOW YOU FIgURE HEAVEN IS THE REWARD?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Speakin about after death, JW's believe that there are two classes of Christians; the anointed ones and the great crowd
How much do you know about these? Did you know that the 144,000 anointed ones are actually male virgin saints?
I guess the JW ladies who come out knocking on my door ain't going to heaven eh?
This is very misleading bro, you've got all these JW's thinking that salvation is based on works. Read what Jesus said, salvation isn't based on works alone. It's what's in your heart that counts. It is out of the kindness of your heart that you will perform good works....
Think about this bro, you will soon understand that JW's are misenterpretating the scripture...."
I KNOW THEY TEACH THAT. AND I BELIEVE IT. AND THAT BEIN' MALE VIRgINS IS SYMBOLIC. YOU NEED TO TRANSLATE AND DECIPHER BETTER. YOU SHOULD HEAR A WITNESS OUT AND ATLEAST INFORM YOURSELF AS TO WHY THEY TRANSLATE SCRIPTURE HOW THEY DO. IT SEEMS LIKE YOU CLINgED ON TO YOUR BELIEFS YOU gREW UP WITH EVEN THOUgH YOU SWITCHED TO CHRISTIAN FROM CATHOLIC. LET THE LIES gO. MOST OF US AIN'T gOT A HEAVENLY DESTINATION. IT WASN'T (gOD)'S PURPOSE FROM JUMP. DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT WAS (gOD)'S ORIgINAL PURPOSE FOR MAN?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "those are just a few but please take some time off to read them and ponder upon them.
So man, don't take this as a debate. I want you to seriously look into this and ask yourself if the teachings of Charles Russell make any sense at all. They are heavily flawd...."
FIFTY FIRST OF ALL,
LIKE I SAID BEFORE, FUK CHRLES TAZE RUSSELL.
XCONDLY,
YOU NAMIN' SOME RESEARCH AND SHIT HE HELPED ORgANIZE TO DISCREDIT THE RESEARCH ITSELF. I DON'T DWELL ON MEN. I SEE IF WHAT HE SPITTIN' IS TRUE OR NOT BASED ON RESEARCH AND HISTORICAL FACTS, BACCED WITH SCRIPTURAL TESTAMENT. YOU SHOULD DO THE SAME. DON'T JUST ASSUME IT'S A FLAW(S). AND DON'T ASSUME IT HIS TEACHINgS, LIKE HE SHOULD BE WORSHIPPED OR SAMETHIN'. HE WAS NOTHIN' BUT A STUDENT OF THE BIBLE AND SERVER OF (gOD). NOTHIN' MORE, NOTHIN' LESS.
THEY'RE NOT HIS TEACHINgS. THE SHIT WAS THERE BEFORE HIM.
BUT I WOULD LOVE TO CONTINUE THIS CONVO CAUSE NOW IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE OPENIN' UP.
I could name a handful of Catholic misenterpretations but there's no Catholics here to debate that with.
I understand you're not a JW but you share some of their ideals.
I've pointed this out to you before but I didn't get a response.
Anyway, I'm learning as I'm going. So I question everything that I find along the way.
It is common in every version of the bible.
You doubt the scripture but there's history and archeology to back this up. JW's just have theories.
But that doesn't change anything, JW's think that it is they whom are the only people who will be saved.
Cuz it isn't. We know how the word Jehova came to be.
It's a Protestant misinterpretation of YHWH....
(By the way, I don't hate anyone)
How is Satan and money Gods? Aren't they idols for some?
I believe Jesus is the Son of God.
Like we talked about before, that relationship between them only implies that Jesus was created by God.
But JW's look at him as just another angel. They deny that he is also one with God.
That's why I pointed you towards the scripture that implies he is God....
Of coarse, if you don't accept the divinity of Jesus and see him as one with God then you will never understand or accept the concept of the Holy Trinity.
The Trinity is the conclusion you come across when you read and understand the New Testiment.
You really have to sit there and read it all word for word.
There's a connection with God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. What's interesting to me is that at one point, the apostles reffered to the Spirit as the Spirit of Jesus.
You feel that way because you do not understand it.
It is only human to feel that way. Isn't it so easy to just deny hell?
It is a place that no one wants to be a part of but does that mean it's right to deny it's existance?
You other accept the scripture as a whole, or you don't.
You can't just pick out what you like from it? (this is where I question every denomination. Catholics add, and JW's take away and add to the scripture)
Read the scripture if you're in denial bro.
There's clearly a Heaven but it's not a reward as JW's and Catholics see it.
As for Hell, Earth is hell. And the lake of fire or the fiery place of pain and gnashing of the teeth is Earth with the absence of the 7th seal....
You might ask where did I get this from, it's in the scripture....
Naw it was the Catholic ideals that made me rebell against God
But now I understand it.
You say the 144,000 males is symbolic but that is only twisting the scripture around.
The scripture says what it says and it gets no simpler than that.
No need to twist shit around.
You're right, most of us ain't going to Heaven.
I know that God created man for his pleasure.
Our purpose was no different than the animals in the animal kingdom. But man started questionning God, we wanted to be like him or at least join him in his realm.
And thus we had people like Noah, Abraham, Moses, etc. to help guide us to Heaven.
You say fuck him but you believe in some of his shit. Now you say that you believe in his claims which have substance to back it up. But I tell you that even those are heavily flawed.
Yeah, I too would like to keep this convo going cuz it's interesting.
Also, do you know of any links to JW websites that might have info these historical facts that back up some of your shared beliefs with the JW's?
I understand you're not a JW but you share some of their ideals.
I've pointed this out to you before but I didn't get a response.
Anyway, I'm learning as I'm going. So I question everything that I find along the way.
It is common in every version of the bible.
You doubt the scripture but there's history and archeology to back this up. JW's just have theories.
But that doesn't change anything, JW's think that it is they whom are the only people who will be saved.
Cuz it isn't. We know how the word Jehova came to be.
It's a Protestant misinterpretation of YHWH....
(By the way, I don't hate anyone)
How is Satan and money Gods? Aren't they idols for some?
I believe Jesus is the Son of God.
Like we talked about before, that relationship between them only implies that Jesus was created by God.
But JW's look at him as just another angel. They deny that he is also one with God.
That's why I pointed you towards the scripture that implies he is God....
Of coarse, if you don't accept the divinity of Jesus and see him as one with God then you will never understand or accept the concept of the Holy Trinity.
The Trinity is the conclusion you come across when you read and understand the New Testiment.
You really have to sit there and read it all word for word.
There's a connection with God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. What's interesting to me is that at one point, the apostles reffered to the Spirit as the Spirit of Jesus.
You feel that way because you do not understand it.
It is only human to feel that way. Isn't it so easy to just deny hell?
It is a place that no one wants to be a part of but does that mean it's right to deny it's existance?
You other accept the scripture as a whole, or you don't.
You can't just pick out what you like from it? (this is where I question every denomination. Catholics add, and JW's take away and add to the scripture)
Read the scripture if you're in denial bro.
There's clearly a Heaven but it's not a reward as JW's and Catholics see it.
As for Hell, Earth is hell. And the lake of fire or the fiery place of pain and gnashing of the teeth is Earth with the absence of the 7th seal....
You might ask where did I get this from, it's in the scripture....
Naw it was the Catholic ideals that made me rebell against God
But now I understand it.
You say the 144,000 males is symbolic but that is only twisting the scripture around.
The scripture says what it says and it gets no simpler than that.
No need to twist shit around.
You're right, most of us ain't going to Heaven.
I know that God created man for his pleasure.
Our purpose was no different than the animals in the animal kingdom. But man started questionning God, we wanted to be like him or at least join him in his realm.
And thus we had people like Noah, Abraham, Moses, etc. to help guide us to Heaven.
You say fuck him but you believe in some of his shit. Now you say that you believe in his claims which have substance to back it up. But I tell you that even those are heavily flawed.
Yeah, I too would like to keep this convo going cuz it's interesting.
Also, do you know of any links to JW websites that might have info these historical facts that back up some of your shared beliefs with the JW's?
^LOL. YOU SEEM MORE OFFENDED THAN HIM.
MCLEANHATCH,
ARE YOU CATHOLIC CASUE THAT'S WHAT YOUR PARENTS ARE OR DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE IN WHAT THEY BASICALLY BELIEVE?
MIggIDY,
YOU STRESSED, "I understand you're not a JW but you share some of their ideals."
THESE ARE PERSONAL IDEALS. DON'T USE THEM TO ATTAK ME. LET'S SPEAK ON THE FACTS THEMSELVES. THEY OPENED MY EYES TO SEE CLEARLY.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "I've pointed this out to you before but I didn't get a response.
Anyway, I'm learning as I'm going. So I question everything that I find along the way."
BULLSHIT. THREAD PLEASE. I RARELY gO WITHOUT ANSWERIN' N-E POST. IT AIN'T MY STYLE.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "It is common in every version of the bible."
HOW YOU KNOW? WHAT IT SAY? AS FAR AS I'M CONCERN JOHN 2:26-27 DOESN'T EXIST.
gO CHEK IT OUT HERE:
http://www.searchgodsword.org/desk/...new=1&sr=1&nb=joh&npc=%A0%3C%3C%A0&ng=3&ncc=3
THEN YOU STRESSED, "You doubt the scripture but there's history and archeology to back this up. JW's just have theories."
TO BAK WHAT UP? YOU TRYIN' TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHIN' AND AIN'T EVEN ADDRESSED IT. WHAT ARE YOU TALKIN' ABOUT? YOU LOST ME.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "But that doesn't change anything, JW's think that it is they whom are the only people who will be saved."
AND THAT'S HOW EVERY RELIgION THINKS AND SHOULD THINK IF THEY FEEL THEY ARE (gOD)'S PEOPLE.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Cuz it isn't. We know how the word Jehova came to be.
It's a Protestant misinterpretation of YHWH...."
HOW DID IT CAME TO BE? HOW DO YOU KNOW THE PROTESTANTS DIDN'T DISCOVER THE RIgHT PRONUNCIATION? HOW YOU KNOW IT AIN'T THE RIgHT PRONUNCIATION? HOW ARE YOU PERSONALLY SO SURE?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "(By the way, I don't hate anyone)"
NOW THAT'S A gOOD THANg. gO HOLLA AND JUST ATLEAST PEEP gAME PLAYA. gO WITH ALL YOUR DOUBTS AND QUESTIONS.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "How is Satan and money Gods? Aren't they idols for some?"
IF YOU WORSHIP YOU MAKE SOMETHIN' YOUR IDOL. WHY YOU THINK (gOD) SPEAKS AgAINST IDOLATRY? BUT EVEN IN SCRIPTURE IT SAYS THERE IS MANY gODS. READ 1 COR. 8: 5,6
THEN YOU STRESSED, "I believe Jesus is the Son of God."
ME TOO. BUT I DON'T BELIEVE HE'S (gOD) TOO.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Like we talked about before, that relationship between them only implies that Jesus was created by God."
HE WAS. NO DENYIN' THAT.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "But JW's look at him as just another angel. They deny that he is also one with God."
NO, JESUS IS THE SON OF gOD, THE MEDIATOR. THE ONLY bEgOTTEN SON. THE FIRST OF ALL CREATION. HE ISN'T JUST ANOTHA ANgEL AS YOU'RE gENERICALLY TRYIN' TO INFER SOME SAYIN'. THEY DENY THEY AIN'T THE SAME ENTITY, WHICH MAKES SENSE LOgICALLY AND SCRIPTURALLY. BUT THE THE FATHER, THE SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT ARE ONE AS IN A TEAM, PURPOSE, AND SO FORTH. IT'S LIKE IF WE BOTH FROM THE SAME HOOD AND WE CALLED "HARD FOO'S". WE THE HARD FOO'S. BUT DOES THAT MEAN WE THE SAME PERSON? NAW IT MEAN WE FROM THE SAME HOOD AND REPRESENT THE SAME SHIT.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "That's why I pointed you towards the scripture that implies he is God...."
THE SCRIPTURE SHOWS TIMOTHY SHOWIN' A FORM OF EXPRESSION.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Of coarse, if you don't accept the divinity of Jesus and see him as one with God then you will never understand or accept the concept of the Holy Trinity."
I UNDA-STAND THE CONCEPT AND I REBUKE IT CAUSE I KNOW IT'S FAKE. THE SHIT DON'T MAKE SENSE AND EVEN SOME OF IT'S BELIEVERS gET PUZZLED WITH THE CONCEPT. YHWH IS NOT A gOD OF CONFUSION. THE BIBLE STRESSES THIS AND OTHA SCRIPTURES BAK THAT. SO WHY WERE THE JEWS UNITARIAN IF CHRISTIANITY CAME FROM THAT? THEY NEVA BELIEVED IN THIS TRINITY.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "The Trinity is the conclusion you come across when you read and understand the New Testiment."
I DISAgREE. THE TRINITY WAS A CONCEPT BORROWED WHICH CAME INTO CHRISTIANITY AROUND THE 4TH CENTURY.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "You really have to sit there and read it all word for word."
WHICH TRANSLATION?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "There's a connection with God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. What's interesting to me is that at one point, the apostles reffered to the Spirit as the Spirit of Jesus."
THERE IS A CONNECTION. THEY ALL ONE IN MIND. BUT IN READIN' SCRIPTURE AND PASSAgES YOU SHOULD COMPARE OTHA TEXTS WITH THE SAME PHRASES TO SEE IF THEY CARRY THE SAME MEANIN' OR IF THE MEANIN' IS ONLY USED FOR THAT ONE TEXT. A gOOD EXAMPLE IS OF THIS IS NEBUCHADNEZZAR IS ALSO CALLED KINg OF KINgS(DAN. 2:37) DOES THAT MEAN HE WAS JESUS CAUSE JESUS WAS CALLED THAT TOO(REV. 17:14)? OR HOW ABOUT THE DISCIPLES BEIN' JESUS SINCE THEY WERE BOTH CALLED "THE LIgHT OF THE WORLD"(MATT. 5:14; JOHN 8:12)? AND WHAT TEXT THE APOSTLES REFER TO THE HOLY SPIRIT AS THE SPIRIT OD JESUS?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "You feel that way because you do not understand it."
AND YOU DO? THEN HOW CAN YOU UNDA-STAND A gOD OF LOVE ENJOYIN' THE SUFFERIN' AND TORMENT OF HIS OWN CREATION?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "It is only human to feel that way. Isn't it so easy to just deny hell?"
IT IS ONLY HUMAN TO HAVE A BRAIN AND QUESTION CONVENTIONAL CHURCH DOgMA. I DON'T DENY HELL. HELL IS A PLACE. IT'S YOUR gRAVE. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE WORD HELL IS IN HEBREW AND gREEK(THE ORIgINAL BIBLE LANgUAgES)?
BUT READ IN ECCL. 9:5, 10; PS. 146:4 ABOUT THE DEAD AND WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM. THE BIBLE TEACHES THAT THE THE SOUL DOESN'T SURVIVE THE BODY. READ EZEK. 18:4
THEN YOU STRESSED, "It is a place that no one wants to be a part of but does that mean it's right to deny it's existance?"
I DON'T DENY IT. HELL IS A REAL PLACE. IT'S THE COMMON gRAVE OF MANKIND. BUT FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVE IT AS A LITERAL PLACE OF TORMENT, I gUESS I WOULD BE SCARED SHITLESS TOO TO BE THREATEN WITH THAT.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "You other accept the scripture as a whole, or you don't."
I DO, DO YOU?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "You can't just pick out what you like from it? (this is where I question every denomination. Catholics add, and JW's take away and add to the scripture)"
YOU CAN'T. YOU ONLY CAN INTERPRET TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY AND CROSS REFERENCE THE TEXT AND PASSAgE FROM IT'S ORIgINAL LANgUAgES AND SEE IF THEY ARE ALL IN HARMONY.
BUT HOW DO YOU FIgURE THE WITNESSES TAKE AND ADD?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Read the scripture if you're in denial bro."
READ WHAT SCRIPTURE AND I'M IN DENIAL OF WHAT?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "There's clearly a Heaven but it's not a reward as JW's and Catholics see it."
I AgREE THERE'S A HEAVEN. WHO SAID N-E-THANg ABOUT A REWARD?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "As for Hell, Earth is hell. And the lake of fire or the fiery place of pain and gnashing of the teeth is Earth with the absence of the 7th seal....
You might ask where did I get this from, it's in the scripture...."
SCRIPTURE PLEASE. BUT I KNOW HELL IS EARTH(AS IN DIRT). JUST LIKE IT WAS TOLD TO ADAM THAT IT IS DIRT HE CAME FROM, SO IT IS DIRT HE WILL gO TO. AND I KNOW YOU RECITIN' OUT OF THE BOOK OF REVELATIONS. NOW SCRIPTURE PLEASE.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Naw it was the Catholic ideals that made me rebell against God
But now I understand it."
DO YOU REALLY? I BELIEVE YOU ARE SEEIN' THE LIgHT BUT AIN'T SEEIN' THE WHOLE PICTURE CLEAR AND THAT'S WHY WE HERE DISCUSSIN' THIS.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "You say the 144,000 males is symbolic but that is only twisting the scripture around.
The scripture says what it says and it gets no simpler than that.
No need to twist shit around."
HOW IS IT TWISTIN' IT IF IT'S SYMBOLIC? THE BOOK OF REVELATIONS IS SYMBOLIC OF THESE LAST DAYS AND WHAT'S gOIN' ON.
MCLEANHATCH,
ARE YOU CATHOLIC CASUE THAT'S WHAT YOUR PARENTS ARE OR DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE IN WHAT THEY BASICALLY BELIEVE?
MIggIDY,
YOU STRESSED, "I understand you're not a JW but you share some of their ideals."
THESE ARE PERSONAL IDEALS. DON'T USE THEM TO ATTAK ME. LET'S SPEAK ON THE FACTS THEMSELVES. THEY OPENED MY EYES TO SEE CLEARLY.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "I've pointed this out to you before but I didn't get a response.
Anyway, I'm learning as I'm going. So I question everything that I find along the way."
BULLSHIT. THREAD PLEASE. I RARELY gO WITHOUT ANSWERIN' N-E POST. IT AIN'T MY STYLE.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "It is common in every version of the bible."
HOW YOU KNOW? WHAT IT SAY? AS FAR AS I'M CONCERN JOHN 2:26-27 DOESN'T EXIST.
gO CHEK IT OUT HERE:
http://www.searchgodsword.org/desk/...new=1&sr=1&nb=joh&npc=%A0%3C%3C%A0&ng=3&ncc=3
THEN YOU STRESSED, "You doubt the scripture but there's history and archeology to back this up. JW's just have theories."
TO BAK WHAT UP? YOU TRYIN' TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHIN' AND AIN'T EVEN ADDRESSED IT. WHAT ARE YOU TALKIN' ABOUT? YOU LOST ME.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "But that doesn't change anything, JW's think that it is they whom are the only people who will be saved."
AND THAT'S HOW EVERY RELIgION THINKS AND SHOULD THINK IF THEY FEEL THEY ARE (gOD)'S PEOPLE.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Cuz it isn't. We know how the word Jehova came to be.
It's a Protestant misinterpretation of YHWH...."
HOW DID IT CAME TO BE? HOW DO YOU KNOW THE PROTESTANTS DIDN'T DISCOVER THE RIgHT PRONUNCIATION? HOW YOU KNOW IT AIN'T THE RIgHT PRONUNCIATION? HOW ARE YOU PERSONALLY SO SURE?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "(By the way, I don't hate anyone)"
NOW THAT'S A gOOD THANg. gO HOLLA AND JUST ATLEAST PEEP gAME PLAYA. gO WITH ALL YOUR DOUBTS AND QUESTIONS.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "How is Satan and money Gods? Aren't they idols for some?"
IF YOU WORSHIP YOU MAKE SOMETHIN' YOUR IDOL. WHY YOU THINK (gOD) SPEAKS AgAINST IDOLATRY? BUT EVEN IN SCRIPTURE IT SAYS THERE IS MANY gODS. READ 1 COR. 8: 5,6
THEN YOU STRESSED, "I believe Jesus is the Son of God."
ME TOO. BUT I DON'T BELIEVE HE'S (gOD) TOO.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Like we talked about before, that relationship between them only implies that Jesus was created by God."
HE WAS. NO DENYIN' THAT.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "But JW's look at him as just another angel. They deny that he is also one with God."
NO, JESUS IS THE SON OF gOD, THE MEDIATOR. THE ONLY bEgOTTEN SON. THE FIRST OF ALL CREATION. HE ISN'T JUST ANOTHA ANgEL AS YOU'RE gENERICALLY TRYIN' TO INFER SOME SAYIN'. THEY DENY THEY AIN'T THE SAME ENTITY, WHICH MAKES SENSE LOgICALLY AND SCRIPTURALLY. BUT THE THE FATHER, THE SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT ARE ONE AS IN A TEAM, PURPOSE, AND SO FORTH. IT'S LIKE IF WE BOTH FROM THE SAME HOOD AND WE CALLED "HARD FOO'S". WE THE HARD FOO'S. BUT DOES THAT MEAN WE THE SAME PERSON? NAW IT MEAN WE FROM THE SAME HOOD AND REPRESENT THE SAME SHIT.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "That's why I pointed you towards the scripture that implies he is God...."
THE SCRIPTURE SHOWS TIMOTHY SHOWIN' A FORM OF EXPRESSION.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Of coarse, if you don't accept the divinity of Jesus and see him as one with God then you will never understand or accept the concept of the Holy Trinity."
I UNDA-STAND THE CONCEPT AND I REBUKE IT CAUSE I KNOW IT'S FAKE. THE SHIT DON'T MAKE SENSE AND EVEN SOME OF IT'S BELIEVERS gET PUZZLED WITH THE CONCEPT. YHWH IS NOT A gOD OF CONFUSION. THE BIBLE STRESSES THIS AND OTHA SCRIPTURES BAK THAT. SO WHY WERE THE JEWS UNITARIAN IF CHRISTIANITY CAME FROM THAT? THEY NEVA BELIEVED IN THIS TRINITY.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "The Trinity is the conclusion you come across when you read and understand the New Testiment."
I DISAgREE. THE TRINITY WAS A CONCEPT BORROWED WHICH CAME INTO CHRISTIANITY AROUND THE 4TH CENTURY.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "You really have to sit there and read it all word for word."
WHICH TRANSLATION?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "There's a connection with God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. What's interesting to me is that at one point, the apostles reffered to the Spirit as the Spirit of Jesus."
THERE IS A CONNECTION. THEY ALL ONE IN MIND. BUT IN READIN' SCRIPTURE AND PASSAgES YOU SHOULD COMPARE OTHA TEXTS WITH THE SAME PHRASES TO SEE IF THEY CARRY THE SAME MEANIN' OR IF THE MEANIN' IS ONLY USED FOR THAT ONE TEXT. A gOOD EXAMPLE IS OF THIS IS NEBUCHADNEZZAR IS ALSO CALLED KINg OF KINgS(DAN. 2:37) DOES THAT MEAN HE WAS JESUS CAUSE JESUS WAS CALLED THAT TOO(REV. 17:14)? OR HOW ABOUT THE DISCIPLES BEIN' JESUS SINCE THEY WERE BOTH CALLED "THE LIgHT OF THE WORLD"(MATT. 5:14; JOHN 8:12)? AND WHAT TEXT THE APOSTLES REFER TO THE HOLY SPIRIT AS THE SPIRIT OD JESUS?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "You feel that way because you do not understand it."
AND YOU DO? THEN HOW CAN YOU UNDA-STAND A gOD OF LOVE ENJOYIN' THE SUFFERIN' AND TORMENT OF HIS OWN CREATION?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "It is only human to feel that way. Isn't it so easy to just deny hell?"
IT IS ONLY HUMAN TO HAVE A BRAIN AND QUESTION CONVENTIONAL CHURCH DOgMA. I DON'T DENY HELL. HELL IS A PLACE. IT'S YOUR gRAVE. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE WORD HELL IS IN HEBREW AND gREEK(THE ORIgINAL BIBLE LANgUAgES)?
BUT READ IN ECCL. 9:5, 10; PS. 146:4 ABOUT THE DEAD AND WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM. THE BIBLE TEACHES THAT THE THE SOUL DOESN'T SURVIVE THE BODY. READ EZEK. 18:4
THEN YOU STRESSED, "It is a place that no one wants to be a part of but does that mean it's right to deny it's existance?"
I DON'T DENY IT. HELL IS A REAL PLACE. IT'S THE COMMON gRAVE OF MANKIND. BUT FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVE IT AS A LITERAL PLACE OF TORMENT, I gUESS I WOULD BE SCARED SHITLESS TOO TO BE THREATEN WITH THAT.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "You other accept the scripture as a whole, or you don't."
I DO, DO YOU?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "You can't just pick out what you like from it? (this is where I question every denomination. Catholics add, and JW's take away and add to the scripture)"
YOU CAN'T. YOU ONLY CAN INTERPRET TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY AND CROSS REFERENCE THE TEXT AND PASSAgE FROM IT'S ORIgINAL LANgUAgES AND SEE IF THEY ARE ALL IN HARMONY.
BUT HOW DO YOU FIgURE THE WITNESSES TAKE AND ADD?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Read the scripture if you're in denial bro."
READ WHAT SCRIPTURE AND I'M IN DENIAL OF WHAT?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "There's clearly a Heaven but it's not a reward as JW's and Catholics see it."
I AgREE THERE'S A HEAVEN. WHO SAID N-E-THANg ABOUT A REWARD?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "As for Hell, Earth is hell. And the lake of fire or the fiery place of pain and gnashing of the teeth is Earth with the absence of the 7th seal....
You might ask where did I get this from, it's in the scripture...."
SCRIPTURE PLEASE. BUT I KNOW HELL IS EARTH(AS IN DIRT). JUST LIKE IT WAS TOLD TO ADAM THAT IT IS DIRT HE CAME FROM, SO IT IS DIRT HE WILL gO TO. AND I KNOW YOU RECITIN' OUT OF THE BOOK OF REVELATIONS. NOW SCRIPTURE PLEASE.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Naw it was the Catholic ideals that made me rebell against God
But now I understand it."
DO YOU REALLY? I BELIEVE YOU ARE SEEIN' THE LIgHT BUT AIN'T SEEIN' THE WHOLE PICTURE CLEAR AND THAT'S WHY WE HERE DISCUSSIN' THIS.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "You say the 144,000 males is symbolic but that is only twisting the scripture around.
The scripture says what it says and it gets no simpler than that.
No need to twist shit around."
HOW IS IT TWISTIN' IT IF IT'S SYMBOLIC? THE BOOK OF REVELATIONS IS SYMBOLIC OF THESE LAST DAYS AND WHAT'S gOIN' ON.
CONTINUATION:
MIgIDDY,
YOU STRESSED, "You're right, most of us ain't going to Heaven."
THEN WHERE ARE WE gOIN' TO?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "I know that God created man for his pleasure."
LOL. EXCUSE ME. WHAT gOD DO YOU WORSHIP? I KNOW IT AIN'T THE SAME AS MINE CAUSE YOU TALKIN' ABOUT A SELF-CENTERED ASS MUTHA-FUKA WITH THAT TYPE OF REASONIN'. IF YOU AIN'T ALREADY KNOWIN', gOD CREATED US OUT OF LOVE. TO BE PERFECT IN HIS IMAgE, BE FRUITFUL AND SUBDUE THE EARTH. OUR MAIN PURPOSE IS TO BE HERE ON EARTH. SO WHY WOULD HE CHANgE HIS PLANS?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Our purpose was no different than the animals in the animal kingdom."
EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT WE DOMINATE ALL THE ANIMALS. PLUS WE HAVE A BIggER BRAIN, AND THAT'S WHAT SETS US APART FROM THE ANIMALS. WE ARE ABLE TO WORSHIP AND HAVE SPIRITUALITY. YOU DON'T SEE ANIMALS WORSHIPPIN' SOMETHIN'.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "But man started questionning God, we wanted to be like him or at least join him in his realm.
And thus we had people like Noah, Abraham, Moses, etc. to help guide us to Heaven."
YOU HAVE SUCH A PERCEPTION. I AIN'T QUESTIONIN' THE FACT THAT MAN'S FREE-WILL WOULD REASON THAT HE WOULD WANT TO BE EQUAL OR ABOVE THE ALMIgHTY CREATOR. I'M QUESTIONIN' YOU THINKIN' WE LIKE ANIMALS AND FEEL WE SHOULD BE gREATER, THUS TAKIN' IT ALL THE WAY ABOVE (gOD) AND THAT'S WHY YOU FEEL HIS OLD SERVANTS SHOULD gUIDE US TO A PLACE WE WEREN'T ORIgINALLY CREATED FOR.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "You say fuck him but you believe in some of his shit."
I WOULD SAY YES, BUT IT'S NOT HIS SHIT.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Now you say that you believe in his claims which have substance to back it up."
THEY'RE NOT ONLY HIS CLAIMS. HE STARTED RESEARCHIN' CAUSE HE QUESTIONED CONVENTIONAL CHURCH DOgMA. I ONLY PEEP THE RESEARCH TO SEE IF IT HOLDS SUBSTANCE.
THEN YOU STRESSED, ". But I tell you that even those are heavily flawed."
NAME THEM. YOU SURE QUIK TO SAY SHIT IS FLAWED. HAVE YOU PERSONALLY CHECCED WHAT THE RESEARCH DENOTES AND POINTS OUT?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Yeah, I too would like to keep this convo going cuz it's interesting."
WE SHOULD BE ON THE PHONE WITH THIS FOR REAL CAUSE I CAN ENLIgHTEN YOU WITH RESEARCH WORK. BUT YOU HAVE TO BE OPEN-MINDED ABOUT WHAT (gOD)'S WORD SAYS AND NOT JUST DEFEND WHAT YOU BEEN BROUgHT UP WITH.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Also, do you know of any links to JW websites that might have info these historical facts that back up some of your shared beliefs with the JW's?"
YUP, YOU CAN EASILY JUST SEARCH FOR JEHOVAH'S WITNESS ON A SEARCH ENgINE BUT THAT WILL TAKE YOU TO ALL KIND OF SITES(INCLUDIN' THE ONES THAT HATE ON THEM AND THEY BELIEFS) BUT I'LL LINK YOU TO THEY MAIN ONE AND A FEW OTHA'S THAT WILL ANSWER N-E QUESTION YOU gOT.
HERE:
http://www.watchtower.org/
http://www.e-watchman.com/
http://www.jw-media.org/beliefs/index.htm
http://www.religioustolerance.org/witness.htm
http://www.jwic.com/
MIgIDDY,
YOU STRESSED, "You're right, most of us ain't going to Heaven."
THEN WHERE ARE WE gOIN' TO?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "I know that God created man for his pleasure."
LOL. EXCUSE ME. WHAT gOD DO YOU WORSHIP? I KNOW IT AIN'T THE SAME AS MINE CAUSE YOU TALKIN' ABOUT A SELF-CENTERED ASS MUTHA-FUKA WITH THAT TYPE OF REASONIN'. IF YOU AIN'T ALREADY KNOWIN', gOD CREATED US OUT OF LOVE. TO BE PERFECT IN HIS IMAgE, BE FRUITFUL AND SUBDUE THE EARTH. OUR MAIN PURPOSE IS TO BE HERE ON EARTH. SO WHY WOULD HE CHANgE HIS PLANS?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Our purpose was no different than the animals in the animal kingdom."
EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT WE DOMINATE ALL THE ANIMALS. PLUS WE HAVE A BIggER BRAIN, AND THAT'S WHAT SETS US APART FROM THE ANIMALS. WE ARE ABLE TO WORSHIP AND HAVE SPIRITUALITY. YOU DON'T SEE ANIMALS WORSHIPPIN' SOMETHIN'.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "But man started questionning God, we wanted to be like him or at least join him in his realm.
And thus we had people like Noah, Abraham, Moses, etc. to help guide us to Heaven."
YOU HAVE SUCH A PERCEPTION. I AIN'T QUESTIONIN' THE FACT THAT MAN'S FREE-WILL WOULD REASON THAT HE WOULD WANT TO BE EQUAL OR ABOVE THE ALMIgHTY CREATOR. I'M QUESTIONIN' YOU THINKIN' WE LIKE ANIMALS AND FEEL WE SHOULD BE gREATER, THUS TAKIN' IT ALL THE WAY ABOVE (gOD) AND THAT'S WHY YOU FEEL HIS OLD SERVANTS SHOULD gUIDE US TO A PLACE WE WEREN'T ORIgINALLY CREATED FOR.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "You say fuck him but you believe in some of his shit."
I WOULD SAY YES, BUT IT'S NOT HIS SHIT.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Now you say that you believe in his claims which have substance to back it up."
THEY'RE NOT ONLY HIS CLAIMS. HE STARTED RESEARCHIN' CAUSE HE QUESTIONED CONVENTIONAL CHURCH DOgMA. I ONLY PEEP THE RESEARCH TO SEE IF IT HOLDS SUBSTANCE.
THEN YOU STRESSED, ". But I tell you that even those are heavily flawed."
NAME THEM. YOU SURE QUIK TO SAY SHIT IS FLAWED. HAVE YOU PERSONALLY CHECCED WHAT THE RESEARCH DENOTES AND POINTS OUT?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Yeah, I too would like to keep this convo going cuz it's interesting."
WE SHOULD BE ON THE PHONE WITH THIS FOR REAL CAUSE I CAN ENLIgHTEN YOU WITH RESEARCH WORK. BUT YOU HAVE TO BE OPEN-MINDED ABOUT WHAT (gOD)'S WORD SAYS AND NOT JUST DEFEND WHAT YOU BEEN BROUgHT UP WITH.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Also, do you know of any links to JW websites that might have info these historical facts that back up some of your shared beliefs with the JW's?"
YUP, YOU CAN EASILY JUST SEARCH FOR JEHOVAH'S WITNESS ON A SEARCH ENgINE BUT THAT WILL TAKE YOU TO ALL KIND OF SITES(INCLUDIN' THE ONES THAT HATE ON THEM AND THEY BELIEFS) BUT I'LL LINK YOU TO THEY MAIN ONE AND A FEW OTHA'S THAT WILL ANSWER N-E QUESTION YOU gOT.
HERE:
http://www.watchtower.org/
http://www.e-watchman.com/
http://www.jw-media.org/beliefs/index.htm
http://www.religioustolerance.org/witness.htm
http://www.jwic.com/
when you said "religion has nothing to do with intelligence" it made the other thing you said "there are alot of religious doctors, engineers, etc." so you tried to argue that smart people are religious but you stressed that intelligence had nothin to do with religion, making YOUR argument POINTLESS. isnt that clear enough for you??
personally i dont care what they say, i know what i believe and although i dont believe/agree with many other religeons that has nothing to do with me.
i have yet to see what is so fake about the Catholics Church , which if i recall correctly was the first church founded by Peter the Apostle?
what do you people thin k is so fake about the Catholics??
i have yet to see what is so fake about the Catholics Church , which if i recall correctly was the first church founded by Peter the Apostle?
what do you people thin k is so fake about the Catholics??
LOL! That's the Jehova Witnesses bible.
Miss me with corrputed scripture.
I'm saying is that we have archeological facts to back up the New Testiment, while JW's just have theories.
Peep that New World Translation version they use, it isn't true to the original scripture.
It's similar to the Catholic bible....
And that is the problem that I have with every Christian denomination. They all forget that Jesus said there will be "other" sheep....
You know this. They didn't know how to pronounce it so they "practically" took a stab at the dark....
It's reffering to idols, read on and it says there is one God....
See what is says about Jesus, it says he's our Lord
This is the shit I was telling Heresy, Jesus is our Lord because he was our savior. He was the Son of God, but became our savior after the sacrifice which later granted him the Lord status.
Anyways, that's what I get out of it so far....
Can't argue with that, I agree that Jesus is the Son of God, but not God himself.
At least I don't see that just yet.
But I see him like you see him, a team?
That's what the Holy Trinity is....
King James version. Actually I read the New King James version cuz that other shit gives me a head ache.
It's some where in Acts.
It struck me cuz I think it's the only time the New Testiment makes that connection.
That there is exactly what I mean when I say that you don't understand what hell is and it's purpose.
It's hard for you to understand because you come from a Jehova Witnesses foundation, you have this belief that only a few will get a ticket into heaven. There for the rest who don't make it will be erased after death.
You see how that doesn't make sense? How can God fry those who remain here on Earth? From your perspective, it doesn't seem fair (and I don't blame you for feeling that way).
Yes Heaven is hard to find but those who miss out only have themselves to blame.
Those who remain on Earth after the Spirit is lifted will burn.
But these will be people who rebelled against the creator and joined the Satan and the fallen angels.
That is what hell is, it is a place for Satan, his Demons, and God's creation whom back stabbed him.
Don't blame God, he sent his only begotten Son to deliver us from damnation but these people still decided to live wicked lives....
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Miss me with corrputed scripture.
I'm saying is that we have archeological facts to back up the New Testiment, while JW's just have theories.
Peep that New World Translation version they use, it isn't true to the original scripture.
It's similar to the Catholic bible....
And that is the problem that I have with every Christian denomination. They all forget that Jesus said there will be "other" sheep....
You know this. They didn't know how to pronounce it so they "practically" took a stab at the dark....
It's reffering to idols, read on and it says there is one God....
See what is says about Jesus, it says he's our Lord
This is the shit I was telling Heresy, Jesus is our Lord because he was our savior. He was the Son of God, but became our savior after the sacrifice which later granted him the Lord status.
Anyways, that's what I get out of it so far....
Can't argue with that, I agree that Jesus is the Son of God, but not God himself.
At least I don't see that just yet.
But I see him like you see him, a team?
That's what the Holy Trinity is....
King James version. Actually I read the New King James version cuz that other shit gives me a head ache.
It's some where in Acts.
It struck me cuz I think it's the only time the New Testiment makes that connection.
That there is exactly what I mean when I say that you don't understand what hell is and it's purpose.
It's hard for you to understand because you come from a Jehova Witnesses foundation, you have this belief that only a few will get a ticket into heaven. There for the rest who don't make it will be erased after death.
You see how that doesn't make sense? How can God fry those who remain here on Earth? From your perspective, it doesn't seem fair (and I don't blame you for feeling that way).
Yes Heaven is hard to find but those who miss out only have themselves to blame.
Those who remain on Earth after the Spirit is lifted will burn.
But these will be people who rebelled against the creator and joined the Satan and the fallen angels.
That is what hell is, it is a place for Satan, his Demons, and God's creation whom back stabbed him.
Don't blame God, he sent his only begotten Son to deliver us from damnation but these people still decided to live wicked lives....
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