Should child rapist/molesters Die vs get life in prison (EDITED)

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Die, Life,

  • Die

    Votes: 42 60.9%
  • Life

    Votes: 10 14.5%
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Mar 14, 2006
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#83
^ thats a very good point , & i def. understand why my reasoning has its down fall . . . . either way a child rapist/molester has no pity from me .
 
May 9, 2002
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#85
wow.


...you guys know me SO well, & those books you read & teachers you took notes from & listened to studies by, they taught you everything..... KUDOS.

sorry, but you guys are fucking morons when it comes to this subject.

I am gonna go ahead & exit left, ....where revenge is best, instead of teddy bear'ing & cupcaking with chesters.

REHABILITATE THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN HURT, FUCK THESE CHO-MO ASS MOTHER FUCKERS..... KILL THEM ALL!
You're blowing this way out of proportion. I merely agreed with SeriouslyThug on the notion that your religious beliefs conduct the way you think. That's it. I don't care if its a good thing or a bad thing...and i don't agree or disagree with your stance on the topic. So don't get it all twisted.
 
Nov 24, 2003
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Of course, the process of therapy for victims of child molestation and rape will take many generations, but eventually there will be a decrease in the behavior and issues related with it, because no more children will grow up repeating the actions and behaviors they were forced to put up with.
LOL

And the people who are raped and molested in the meantime while we are waiting these "many generations" are what; acceptable causalities?
 
Nov 24, 2003
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You asked me a question that seemed to be assuming.



Not at all. I was trying to figure out where and why you thought I supported a child molester being released when I have yet to take stance on the subject.


That's fine..that's your opinion. There is evidence that goes both ways.



And I may never state a position for several reasons.



I share an opinion with a large group of psychologists that suggest pedophilia is a very real psychological abnormality. However, I would understand why someone would suggest otherwise, as there have been some suggestions that pedophilia might be excluded in the DSM-V.

This has zero to do with "hands".

It's not very interesting or worthwhile to debate someone whose sole purpose seems to be to point out subjectivity

Since we both know (and I'm pretty sure you have said this yourself in other threads) all things are subjective, pointing out subjectivity is an act in futility.

I am not a child molester, so I would not know first hand. However, can I control what turns me on? No. If I find big tits a turn on then guess what...that's life. We can not just say "I dont like tits". This is the same argument I use for homosexuality as well. If a guy likes looking at dicks because it arouses him, you can not suppress that. Its gonna happen regardless.
I agree with this, and I don't fault them for being attracted to little kids anymore than I fault a gay person for being attracted to a dick or man being attracted to some big tits.

However, I fault them all equally for acting on that impulse when it is unwanted and damaging to others.

I don't see why I would hold someone who is attracted to children for instance to a lower standard than someone who is attracted to big tits.
 
Nov 24, 2003
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nope not at all

what i meant is that its practically a male dominated site where everybody wants to prove to the next man that they got bigger balls.


What do our screen names, sexuality, or our aggressiveness have anything whatsoever to do with what we believe the truth to be?

Would a female dominated site with friendly screen names and contagious etiquette intrinsically contain more truth?
 

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No Flexxin No Fakin
Apr 1, 2003
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neither
they, like all "criminals" should be given therapy and the capability to heal from a broken system/upbringing.

one who is tormented long enough first goes through depression, then anger, then reacts like their tormentors (if they hadnt already at anger)

sadly, this is a cycle that continues to repeat itself and nobody sees the blame game as being part of the same society that had produced chld molestors and other "criminal" behavior.

edit: in a working society, healed "criminals" have more to offer back to the society and teach those that come after.


So do you feel that if an individual raped and killed a minor that he/she can and should be givin the opportunity to be rehabilitated?

I think that if you take another life...especially a minor....you should be gone forever just like they are.
 
Jan 31, 2008
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#90
What do our screen names, sexuality, or our aggressiveness have anything whatsoever to do with what we believe the truth to be?

Would a female dominated site with friendly screen names and contagious etiquette intrinsically contain more truth?
sorry, stage right had nothing but a bed that i just slept on for the past 12 hours.

anyway oh awesome! i love when ive replied to 3 or so posts of yours but you want to stick on the one that wasnt made for you and instead will have me and you discussion nothin more than subjectivism a lil longer.

heres your answer:

it says nothin more than a woman doing the same, depending on the reader of course.
The reader who happens to be the converser in this case was hoping people looked deep enough to the point where whether this was a male dominated site or not, one can look at things "A-sexually".

too bad most got more running to do from themselves than most think.
 
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LOL

And the people who are raped and molested in the meantime while we are waiting these "many generations" are what; acceptable causalities?
in all honest truth u can achieve such a peace instantly if you work on society and not on invididuals.

and if thats not the case, then yes, its better to have ex-molestors sharing with the world what they thought and what they realized , etc, and spill some light on the subject for those who would become offenders themselves, thanks to their being molested, by society or by another.

acceptable causalties is all i see when u lock mother fuckers up and repeat the cycle of destruction and blame game.
 
May 9, 2002
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It's not very interesting or worthwhile to debate someone whose sole purpose seems to be to point out subjectivity
Thats your subjective view. :siccness:

Since we both know (and I'm pretty sure you have said this yourself in other threads) all things are subjective, pointing out subjectivity is an act in futility.
Just because you and I know, doesnt mean the other 1000 posters on here know. Sometimes a friendly reminder is a good thing.

[quote[I agree with this, and I don't fault them for being attracted to little kids anymore than I fault a gay person for being attracted to a dick or man being attracted to some big tits.

However, I fault them all equally for acting on that impulse when it is unwanted and damaging to others.

I don't see why I would hold someone who is attracted to children for instance to a lower standard than someone who is attracted to big tits.
Fair enough. However, its s proven fact that when a man is aroused, they are at their most irrational state outside of being high on angel dust/methamphetamine. Its a proven biological fact. At when we get that "urge", we want to find a way to ease that craving. However, acting on it simply proves that not all men have the same temperament. Most pedophiles will just get child porn and do it that way.
 
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I used to always think lock up chesters for life, and then 1 day i got a call from my wife, who said she got a call from our 13 year old niece.....turns out her stepfather (my bro in law) had been abusing her since she was 5. now i say FUCKING KILL THEM ALL!

He fucked up this girls life, and he gets free meals and board without a care in the world. he knows right from wrong, he knew to hide shit, he knew when to do things and when not too. it finally took my niece 1 time saying enough is enough. I would play ball with this guy, drink, play cards etc, take him to ball games, everything! this fucker knew exatcly what he was doing, none of this oh well he doesnt know right from wrong shit... FUCK HIM! luckily the judge had no sympathy either and he's sentenced to 25 - life with no parole until 25 years and after costly classes he cant afford, so we fully expect him to be in for life.
 
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I used to always think lock up chesters for life, and then 1 day i got a call from my wife, who said she got a call from our 13 year old niece.....turns out her stepfather (my bro in law) had been abusing her since she was 5. now i say FUCKING KILL THEM ALL!

He fucked up this girls life, and he gets free meals and board without a care in the world. he knows right from wrong, he knew to hide shit, he knew when to do things and when not too. it finally took my niece 1 time saying enough is enough. I would play ball with this guy, drink, play cards etc, take him to ball games, everything! this fucker knew exatcly what he was doing, none of this oh well he doesnt know right from wrong shit... FUCK HIM! luckily the judge had no sympathy either and he's sentenced to 25 - life with no parole until 25 years and after costly classes he cant afford, so we fully expect him to be in for life.
Don't think with failed logic. First ask yourself, and maybe even him, "WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED WHEN HE WAS A CHILD?!" There is no such thing as a normal functioning adult that has never experienced any time of abuse or mental problems that looks at children in a sexual way.

You wouldn't believe how many people are molested by family members as children, and I think there is a bigger percentage of boys getting touched at younger ages than what is normally believed.

Understanding that this is just a cycle, just like addiction, just like depression, just like other hurtful things for the human spirit is the first step in actually helping out future children heal from these horrible cycles.

Do you want change or just the same old cycle? Locking up motherfuckers is not therapeutic, it is meant to break down the person even more. If prison was at all therapeutic for humans, then they would play music and have intensive therapy sessions instead of well-paid guards who turn the other cheek when these men continue the cycle of abuse inside the walls.

It is a very simple idea... men have the ability to emotional mature, and to finally heal from these types of things despite the stereotype of men being emotionally handicapped because "thats just how we are". Of course if they don't want to change or see the need to change they will have to suffer the consequences of touching my child. This is how justice truly works.