Should child rapist/molesters Die vs get life in prison (EDITED)

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Die, Life,

  • Die

    Votes: 42 60.9%
  • Life

    Votes: 10 14.5%
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    Votes: 17 24.6%

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Apr 21, 2010
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#61
What does that mean?

Saying that people that listen to "gangster rap" cannot form an opinion that does not meet your requirements?

People are going to have different opinions. Bring up politics, death penalty, immigration and so on and you will see many different opinions, some extreme some not.
this nigga been on siccness for a long ass time bro, don't trip on him judging it haha.
 
Jan 31, 2008
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#62
How come people still have not said anything about drug users? I know most opiate, crack, and crystal addicts are victims of molestation/rape. How come you cannot see the similarities between people giving up on themselves by becoming a full-blown addict, but do no see people that are addicted to touching children (the same thing that had happened to them) as the same issue?

Both are up for "relapse", and usually hurt many people in the process. Addicts try to mostly hurt themselves the most, but this also has to do with the type of personalities that become these addicts.

I repeat, be a fucking man and think.

in the end whether being addicted to sex, money, being pimps, molesting kids, drugs, rock n roll, or killing people out of indignation in an attempt to seek justice, is nothin more than ALL OF THEM being hollow from the inside out.
all are trying to fill a void and that void is them.
church on sunday might appear to work till the sermons over because the issue is them and the lack thereof, not their beliefs.
 
May 9, 2002
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#63
Why would you need to have said it to answer the question?
You asked me a question that seemed to be assuming.

You tried to trap me into a position by begging the question in your question to me.
Not at all. I was trying to figure out where and why you thought I supported a child molester being released when I have yet to take stance on the subject.

because we have yet to establish that it is in fact out of their psychological control.
I am not a child molester, so I would not know first hand. However, can I control what turns me on? No. If I find big tits a turn on then guess what...that's life. We can not just say "I dont like tits". This is the same argument I use for homosexuality as well. If a guy likes looking at dicks because it arouses him, you can not suppress that. Its gonna happen regardless.

I don't believe it is out of their psychological control so I can't answer your hypothetical question without compromising my position.
That's fine..that's your opinion. There is evidence that goes both ways.

On the other hand, you have yet to state a position, which is why I posed the question
And I may never state a position for several reasons.

"If it's beyond their psychological control, why would you ever support reintroduction into society?"

So what is?

-Is it out of their control or not? (in your opinion)

-Do you support life away from general society or rehabilitation and reintroduction?
I share an opinion with a large group of psychologists that suggest pedophilia is a very real psychological abnormality. However, I would understand why someone would suggest otherwise, as there have been some suggestions that pedophilia might be excluded in the DSM-V.

I've played my hand; your turn :classic:
This has zero to do with "hands".
 
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I don't think many people are disagreeing that the molester/rapist has some serious mental problems and it could be society's fault for not having proper ways to care for those problems but some just differ on what should be done to these people once they have committed the act.
im glad you agree, so do i.

yes its all about what to do with them, but like mr know-it-all in the video stated, those are the people to fear the most.

is their "justice" not the same as the "accused"? Have they ever tried to find out? (no)
 
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#66
I will agree that a form of masculinity will cause some comments but some are how a person really feels regardless of how it makes them appear.
yes but as long as "i am a man" is how they view themselves, their manliness will remain a subjectivity.

for all we know everybodys a bitch on here hiding behind manly handles n ideals.
 
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#67
I like how you think you know someone, over a computer screen & want to tell me, religion plays a part in my decision making.

if anything, my particular religion tells me to 'love thy neighbor' & to 'turn the other cheek'

I refuse to do either, if I am turning my cheek to avoid looking at whats really going on.

& I refuse to love my neighbor if he is hurting children & others who cannot help themselves.

You are obviously the minority in thought, here. We (the siccness, & every other moral driven person in the world) would want to see the rehabilitation of the ones who are hurt, not the ones hurting people.

Fuck them.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

see there goes your subjective perspective running wild. You fail to think of what other religions and systems of belief might exist elsewhere.

yes bro, im the minority in thought for a reason.

only life can reveal to you that reason.


trust me, i have a great idea of what im talking about.
 
Apr 21, 2010
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I don't think many people are disagreeing that the molester/rapist has some serious mental problems and it could be society's fault for not having proper ways to care for those problems but some just differ on what should be done to these people once they have committed the act.
Which comes from a culture embedded with an "outlaw" mind state. Hating jailed punishment for one crime should make you hate jail punishment for any crime. Its such a big fucking spiderweb of bullshit that its hard to pull just one 'offense' and say its punishable by death, and disregard how it comes to become an actual problem for people.

Of course, the process of therapy for victims of child molestation and rape will take many generations, but eventually there will be a decrease in the behavior and issues related with it, because no more children will grow up repeating the actions and behaviors they were forced to put up with. All it takes is the understanding that people are only what they learn.

OH and earlier you said that I could say its ridiculous to punish for any past crime, and I agree with that. No matter how bad a rapist gets punished, as a victim, the person could always be mentally 'jailed' by the past action if they do not learn how to move from the experience itself as well. I know women that still have nightmares and anxiety attacks about past rapes, the men are in jail, but these women have not worked on themselves since the incident. That is the main problem, the lack of therapeutic treatments for all dysfunctional human behaviors and addictions.
 
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@ i fucked your mom, thank you

the religion i was born into , then the spirituality i currently abide by, got me in doin a complete 180 on how i view everything in life including myself.
 
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Once you realize there is no 'heaven' and 'hell', you remove a whole entire dominating concept over your heart and mind.

Then once your freed, you can get scared and run back to religion a semi-believer. Or you can take the route of self-learning, and pay attention and really think for yourself instead of living by another man's words. This does not include reckless people who are out on a destructive path, they are still believing that life is less than what it is. They have the same issue as people who believe they are going to hell. Creating their own misery.
 
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#73
Once you realize there is no 'heaven' and 'hell', you remove a whole entire dominating concept over your heart and mind.

Then once your freed, you can get scared and run back to religion a semi-believer. Or you can take the route of self-learning, and pay attention and really think for yourself instead of living by another man's words. This does not include reckless people who are out on a destructive path, they are still believing that life is less than what it is. They have the same issue as people who believe they are going to hell. Creating their own misery.
Okay your post are somewhat confusing at times but anyway, are you assuming that all the people that say kill them are religious in some way shape or form?
 
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#74
Once you realize there is no 'heaven' and 'hell', you remove a whole entire dominating concept over your heart and mind.

Then once your freed, you can get scared and run back to religion a semi-believer. Or you can take the route of self-learning, and pay attention and really think for yourself instead of living by another man's words. This does not include reckless people who are out on a destructive path, they are still believing that life is less than what it is. They have the same issue as people who believe they are going to hell. Creating their own misery.
co/sign 100%
 
Apr 21, 2010
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lol @ the oldest here resorting to childish tactics

its ok, i expect nothing from people who pick n choose which beliefs to live by (i really mean to live them) (btw)
His behavior also stems from his own self...another great example of how its never really anyone else that causes eternal pain on another person, only the person who has experienced it.
 
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#77
i know which in this thread have been hurt the most n hold the most indignation, im only asking them to look within. THAT is why they are resorting to YELLING YELLING YELLING
 
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Okay your post are somewhat confusing at times but anyway, are you assuming that all the people that say kill them are religious in some way shape or form?
No, I was just explaining how religion does make a difference on your world view, as long as your a believer. This was mostly in response to Shea and SeriouslyThug's little discussion/debate.

You can pm me with any questions.
 
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#79
now we wait n let this thread die in hopes of people thinking for themselves for once and not let the majority rule rule of thumb be a rule.
thank you, ill exit stage right