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Mcleanhatch said:
why would America/USA be bias towards Mexico/Chicano history instead of its own American history??????????????
lol you an idiot i swear.


chicano history IS AMERICA HISTORY!!!! ever since 1848, but it roots goes even futher back.
 
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miggidy said:
No shit! Isn't that right Mclean?
every1 has personal beliefs and core values regardless of their race.

again as i have stated before i am an American first Mexican-American second.

i am not offended because my country (america) shows its history from an American perspective instead of another countries perspective (that only makes sense).
 
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Mcleanhatch said:


i am not offended because my country (america) shows its history from an American perspective instead of another countries perspective (that only makes sense).
chicano history is american history!!!!
 
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nefar559 said:
chicano history IS AMERICA HISTORY!!!! ever since 1848, but it roots goes even futher back.
here since you obviously know so damn much.

chicano history is NOT American history since 1848, chicanos didnt even exist until around the early 1900's.

American history didnt even start in Califoria until about that time (1848).

and the people that were here in california before calornia became a state werent even Chicanos they were Spaniards!
 
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Mcleanhatch said:
here since you obviously know so damn much.

chicano history is NOT American history since 1848, chicanos didnt even exist until around the early 1900's.
WRONG ROOTS ARE WAY BACK WHEN CORTEZ ARRIVED
:dead:

Mcleanhatch said:

and the people that were here in california before calornia became a state werent even Chicanos they were Spaniards!
so these ppl that were on mexican land, that was taken away by the US later, were Spaniards? they came from spain, and went to northern mexico just before the war?

:dead:



Chicano History is American(USA) History
 
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nefar559 said:
WRONG ROOTS ARE WAY BACK WHEN CORTEZ ARRIVED
LOL, no actually the roots were there since the days of the cavemen. give me a break

nefar559 said:
so these ppl that were on mexican land, that was taken away by the US later, were Spaniards? they came from spain, and went to northern mexico just before the war?
All the land grants were given to Mexicans of Spanish decent, not to Meztizos, or Aztecs or todays "Mexican".

i cant recall the name but i think it was "Peninsulares" of course i can be wrong there

nefar559 said:
Chicano History is American(USA) History
ya, ill give you that to a certain extent.

but you are blurring the line between American and Mexican history pertaining to Chicanos
 
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Mcleanhatch said:
LOL, no actually the roots were there since the days of the cavemen. give me a break
no you give me a break, the state of Mexico, began to evolve to what it is today, when Cortez came, no Cortez no mexico, no mexicans no chicanos, not when cavemen were alive


Mcleanhatch said:
All the land grants were given to Mexicans of Spanish decent, not to Meztizos, or Aztecs or todays "Mexican".

i cant recall the name but i think it was "Peninsulares" of course i can be wrong there
you dont even know shit about Mecha, and then you telling me this? stop it already.

YOU FASCIST ULTRA RIGHT WINGER NEWSMAXS READER


Mcleanhatch said:
ya, ill give you that to a certain extent.

but you are blurring the line between American and Mexican history pertaining to Chicanos
to the ROOTS!!
 
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Mcleanhatch said:
first of all, they were here on expired Visas, so they were here illegally.
Yes but didn't they get their visas legally?

Mcleanhatch said:

they got drivers lincesces from states that have laws like this one california is trying to pass.

and ya, by getting these drivers license any1 can get them, they dont even have to show legitimate proof of ID, dont have to get the finger prints taken (like we do).
Ok so what's the solution?
Shouldn't every state finger print people who get their driver's license?
Here's reality, these people are going to drive anyway, whether they are illegal aliens or terrorists.
They will find a way....
We need to give these people license's because it will make better drivers out of them. Right now they're driving regardless and many don't even know how to fucking drive in the first place.
This is similar to the controversy surrounding the idea of putting condoms in schools (which I support)....
Not only are we gonna benefit from giving these people licenses but like I said earlier, people like you will benefit from it as well.
People who are anti-illegal aliens....

Mcleanhatch said:

do you know how easy it would be for a terrorist to impersonate a mexican illegal alien and get himself a drivers lisence?? weather you want to admit it or not arabs and hispanics have simular charcteristics. i mean tell me Sadam Husdsein and Vicente Fox dont in a way look similare.
Any Mexican can tell the difference. Fuck everyone else who can't! That's what they get for stereotypin people.
And before you say that it's not everyone else's fault if they can't tell the difference, you're talking to someone who can tell the differences within Asian people....

Mcleanhatch said:

what is the major form of ID they you need to board a flight within the USA (i know on ther few flights that i got on all i needed was a california state drivers lisence).
Ok so what does illegal aliens, people who come in illegally have to do with the 911 high jackers who came in with visas????
 
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proppa said:

yall ready to love in calico.


cause california will be no more if he has his way. hell open the flood gates and let anyone and everyone in. then put a vote to the people of cali to succed.

SO UR SAYIN HE'S GONNA OPEN THE BORDER? NEVER MIND MEXICANS COMIN ACROSS THE BORDER THE BORDER CROSSED US
 
Sep 13, 2002
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i only got one thing to say.

THERE ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THERE BREAKING THE LAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 SO WE SHOULD REWARD THEM????????????????????


WAKE THE FUCK UP. THESES ARNT PEOPLE WORKING HERE LEGALLY COMMING THROUGH BY A PROCESS. THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO BREAK THE LAW AND THEN NOW WERE POSSED TO GIVE THEM DRIVERS LICENSE'S? THERE NOT POSSED TO BE HERE WHY ARE WE GIVING THEM A FORM OF IDEA AND RIGHT TO BE HERE. UMMMMMMM THEN THAT MAKES IT LEGAL FOR I GUESS THE WHOLE COUNTRY OF MEXICO TO COME HERE. THEN AGAIN WE HAVE MEXACALI.



DOSENT ANYONE GET THIS.
 
Sep 13, 2002
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ima racist because i belive in the law????

and i am doing the jobs there doing, so dont speak to me about that.

also bustamante wants to give them all free college. if i think thats wrong am i racist to?????? i mean really i should have to pay and struggle to get an education while illegals will be able to go for free. that seems completly fair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


and also for some reason you seem like the type to give lables. well tell all the black folks mexican folks i grew up with that im racist, tell the people i think of as my family and vise versa that im racist. fuck while your at it tell my "black" puerto rican wife im racist. oh and when my son or daughter is born around 9 months from now, tell him or her that im a racist.
 
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miggidy said:
Ok so what's the solution?
Shouldn't every state finger print people who get their driver's license?
look california requires US american citizens to fingerprint in order to get our drivers license (which is a privlidge not a right by the way) but they wont require illegals to have to get the fingerprint.

miggidy said:
Here's reality, these people are going to drive anyway, whether they are illegal aliens or terrorists.
that doesnt mean we have to make it easier for them after all they did break our laws.

would you like it if people cut in line in front of you at the DMV??? tht is what illegal aliens are doing to the law abiding immigrants that are trying yo come here legally.

miggidy said:
This is similar to the controversy surrounding the idea of putting condoms in schools (which I support)....
i dont, beside encouraging kids to have sex all that does is make it easy for those who might not otherwise have sex to do it because it was so easy to get the condoms, i mean the ones that are going to do it anyways will go out and get their own condoms at the store anyways.

miggidy said:
Any Mexican can tell the difference. Fuck everyone else who can't! That's what they get for stereotypin people.
And before you say that it's not everyone else's fault if they can't tell the difference, you're talking to someone who can tell the differences within Asian people....
you must have a good eye, you cant expect every1 else to be as sharp as you.

i know some Mexicans from Jalisco, Mexico that i bet you if you met them you would think that they were white.

miggidy said:
Ok so what does illegal aliens, people who come in illegally have to do with the 911 high jackers who came in with visas????
They all had drivers linsense from states that give them to any1 even ILLEGAL ALIENS!
 
Jul 7, 2002
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proppa said:
ima racist because i belive in the law????

and i am doing the jobs there doing, so dont speak to me about that.
what do u do?



proppa said:


also bustamante wants to give them all free college. if i think thats wrong am i racist to?????? i mean really i should have to pay and struggle to get an education while illegals will be able to go for free. that seems completly fair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you twist the facts, Bustamante is not trying to give them free college, YOU FUCKEN MORON!!!!!!!!!!

proppa said:
and also for some reason you seem like the type to give lables. well tell all the black folks mexican folks i grew up with that im racist, tell the people i think of as my family and vise versa that im racist. fuck while your at it tell my "black" puerto rican wife im racist. oh and when my son or daughter is born around 9 months from now, tell him or her that im a racist.
hey man dont argue with us, argue with the "PEOPLE YOU GREW UP WITH"
 
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Mcleanhatch said:
look california requires US american citizens to fingerprint in order to get our drivers license (which is a privlidge not a right by the way) but they wont require illegals to have to get the fingerprint.



that doesnt mean we have to make it easier for them after all they did break our laws.

would you like it if people cut in line in front of you at the DMV??? tht is what illegal aliens are doing to the law abiding immigrants that are trying yo come here legally.



i dont, beside encouraging kids to have sex all that does is make it easy for those who might not otherwise have sex to do it because it was so easy to get the condoms, i mean the ones that are going to do it anyways will go out and get their own condoms at the store anyways.



you must have a good eye, you cant expect every1 else to be as sharp as you.

i know some Mexicans from Jalisco, Mexico that i bet you if you met them you would think that they were white.



They all had drivers linsense from states that give them to any1 even ILLEGAL ALIENS!
well i guess some new laws have to be impilmented since "illegals" can get licenses now.

problem solved.
 
Sep 13, 2002
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i bus tables for minimum wage.


also why would i agure you with the people i grew up with when there the ones who think like me.

they think that race dosent hold you down as long as you work ya ass off.

they also belive that you should get into this country legaly and wait ya turn, not just cut everybody off and force people who follow the law to be fucked out of gettting a job.
 
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I cant believe some of the bullshit Im reading. How the fuck is MEchA a racist group? The fact is it never was. My entire fam is full of Mechistas and Brown Berets and we all have friends and collegues of all kinds of races and creeds.

And Bustamonte is trying to get Mexicans into college for free??? Do you honestly think that is a real point on his agenda? Do you think that could actually happen? A scholorship aint shit unless you an athlete or a really smart person. Finnacial aid is a whole other story, but the fact is that no matter what color you are, you will get finnacial aid if your broke. So Proppa, how the fuck are we keeping you from getting into college?

And there is a big misconception that "illegal aliens" are working tax-free and getting free shit. If you get rid of all the immegrant workers this state will be done with. If you take out an entire pool of tax paying illegal mexicans, this state's economy will be over with. The truth is California depends on Mexicans. Do you know that California provides most of the world thier fruits and vegetables? With no one to work those fields, this globe is fucked. And I guarentee you Brad and Chip aint gonna drag they asses out to pick the fruit when the Mexicans are gone.

The truth is that the politicians know that Mexicans, illegal or not, are essential to the backbone of California. They just raise false issues to further thier political carreers. Its a strategy. And the pendulum swings back and forth. Thats checks and balances.

All these politicans are educated out of the same political science programs in college. Its all based on one American democratic system.
 
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proppa said:

and also for some reason you seem like the type to give lables. well tell all the black folks mexican folks i grew up with that im racist, tell the people i think of as my family and vise versa that im racist. fuck while your at it tell my "black" puerto rican wife im racist. oh and when my son or daughter is born around 9 months from now, tell him or her that im a racist.

who says you have to hate blacks to hate mexicans ? what does your black puerter rican wife have to do with mexicans ? becuz shes "latino" who gives a shit puerter ricans arent mexicanos theres a diffrence an im tierd of people trying to bunch central an southern american people into one gaint bunch cuz we aren't all the fuckin same ass hole you go tell your mexican friends you dont want there grandmas or cousins to be here an to go back to fuckin mexico.

quit being so paraniod if this country can liberate people it can let people in