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Mcleanhatch said:
MAN THATS LIKE SAYING WE SONT ADHERE TO THE US CONSTITUTION BECAUSE IT WAS REPLACED BY THE CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION.
bad analogy, that plan has nothing do with the club's foundation. becuase it was written before it was establish.

cali constitution has to follow within US constitution, thats not true with Plan the Aztlan and Mecha's plan de Santa Barbara




and you are going alway from the reason why i pointed that out.

you stated

Mcleanhatch said:
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I MEAN I DONT KNOW ABOUT YOU BUT THESE HERE LINES SOUND VERY RACIST TO ME

1. Brotherhood unites us, and love for our brothers makes us a people whose time has come and who struggles against the foreigner "gabacho" who exploits our riches and destroys our culture.

2. We are a bronze people with a bronze culture. Before the world, before all of North America, before all our brothers in the bronze continent, we are a nation, we are a union of free pueblos, we are Aztlán (I MEAN INSERT THE WORD "WHITE" IN PLACE OF "BRONZE" AND INSERT THE WORD "ARYAN" IN PLACE OF AZTLAN AND TELL ME IT ISNT RACIST)

3. Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada.

i prove you wrong, and just like your boy OReilly says, "NO SPIN!!!" and "SHUT UP SHUT UP!!"
 
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Mcleanhatch said:
MECHA NATIONAL WEB PAGE
www.panam.edu/orgs/mecha/nat.html
Documents
The following documents are essential to the philosophy of MEChA. Every MEChista should be familiar with them.

1. MEChA National Constitution

2. El Plan de Santa Barbara

3. El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan / El Plan de Action

4. MEChA Position Papers

NOTE IT DOESNT SAY ONLY SANTA BARBARA APPLIES IT SAYS "The following documents are essential to the philosophy of MEChA. Every MEChista should be familiar with them".
stop trying to allege somehting that doesn't exist, just like newsmax, always spinning the facts, FASCIST, ULTRA RIGHTWINGER
 
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HERES ANOTHER MECHA WEB PAGE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF OREGON

http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~mecha/
http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~mecha/plan.html
AGAIN THIS IS THE ONLY PLAN I SEE ON THEIR PAGE, MUST BE IMPORTANT

EL PLAN DE AZTLÁN
El Plan Espiritual de Aztlán
In the spirit of a new people that is conscious not only of its proud historical heritage but also of the brutal "gringo" invasion of our territories, we, the Chicano inhabitants and civilizers of the northern land of Aztlán from whence came our forefathers, reclaiming the land of their birth and consecrating the determination of our people of the sun, declare that the call of our blood is our power, our responsibility, and our inevitable destiny.

We are free and sovereign to determine those tasks which are justly called for by our house, our land, the sweat of our brows, and by our hearts. Aztlán belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans. We do not recognize capricious frontiers on the bronze continent

Brotherhood unites us, and love for our brothers makes us a people whose time has come and who struggles against the foreigner "gabacho" who exploits our riches and destroys our culture. With our heart in our hands and our hands in the soil, we declare the independence of our mestizo nation. We are a bronze people with a bronze culture. Before the world, before all of North America, before all our brothers in the bronze continent, we are a nation, we are a union of free pueblos, we are Aztlán.

For La Raza to do. Fuera de La Raza nada.
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http://www.americanpatrol.com/MECHA/MEChAindex.html

This is what the MEChA Constitution says (Article II, section 1):

"General membership shall consist of any student who accepts, believes and works for the goals and objectives of MEChA, including the liberation of AZTLAN, meaning self-determination of our people in this occupied state and the physical liberation of our land."
 
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http://www.brownmecha.org/
BROWN UNIVERSITY

Documents:

The following documents are the sole property and documentation of MEChA. They are a written testiment to our cause and direction. May these documents serve the purpose of networking, communicating and the fostering of change. May our Voz be heard, may it bring us Together... and may we Enlighten the world.

>> El Plan De Santa Barbara
>> El Plan Espiritual De Aztlan
>> Philosophy of M.E.Ch.A.
>> Purpose of M.E.Ch.A.
>> M.E.Ch.A. National Constitution
>> East Coast Chicana/o Student Forum Constitution
>> Este Aztlan Regional Constitution
>> M.E.Ch.A. de Brown Constitution
>> Robert's Rules of Order
 
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Mcleanhatch said:
HERES ANOTHER MECHA WEB PAGE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF OREGON

http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~mecha/
http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~mecha/plan.html
AGAIN THIS IS THE ONLY PLAN I SEE ON THEIR PAGE, MUST BE IMPORTANT

EL PLAN DE AZTLÁN
El Plan Espiritual de Aztlán
In the spirit of a new people that is conscious not only of its proud historical heritage but also of the brutal "gringo" invasion of our territories, we, the Chicano inhabitants and civilizers of the northern land of Aztlán from whence came our forefathers, reclaiming the land of their birth and consecrating the determination of our people of the sun, declare that the call of our blood is our power, our responsibility, and our inevitable destiny.

We are free and sovereign to determine those tasks which are justly called for by our house, our land, the sweat of our brows, and by our hearts. Aztlán belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans. We do not recognize capricious frontiers on the bronze continent

Brotherhood unites us, and love for our brothers makes us a people whose time has come and who struggles against the foreigner "gabacho" who exploits our riches and destroys our culture. With our heart in our hands and our hands in the soil, we declare the independence of our mestizo nation. We are a bronze people with a bronze culture. Before the world, before all of North America, before all our brothers in the bronze continent, we are a nation, we are a union of free pueblos, we are Aztlán.

For La Raza to do. Fuera de La Raza nada.
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http://www.americanpatrol.com/MECHA/MEChAindex.html

This is what the MEChA Constitution says (Article II, section 1):

"General membership shall consist of any student who accepts, believes and works for the goals and objectives of MEChA, including the liberation of AZTLAN, meaning self-determination of our people in this occupied state and the physical liberation of our land."


LOOK MAN READ THIS AGAIN, this is what the plan de Aztlan is about!!!, if you also look at that site, it has broken links, and some of the images are missing, which means its not updated much.


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Myth #2: MEChA is a racist organization because its constitution is "El Plan de Aztlan" and its sole aims are to implement the goals printed in El Plan de Aztlan.

Facts:

A. MEChA has a formal constitution; "El Plan de Aztlan" is a
document that was written before MEChA was established.

B. MEChA's founding document is El Plan de Santa Barbara, not El Plan de Aztlan.

C. El Plan de Aztlan is an historical document of the Chicano
movement, as such MEChA would not renounce the collective history of our peoples Civil Rights struggle by denouncing what is inarguably the true history of the southwest. The facts are that the southwest was invaded upon by Anglos under the white supremacist banner of "Manifest Destiny" in 1836 and 1846. The invasion was so brutal that Irish-American soldiers deserted in droves and formed the St.
Patrick's brigade and fought against U.S. forces in defense of the Mexican peasantry (anyone ever wonder why there are so many redheads in Northern Mexico?). In fact, the red stripe on the pants of the dress blues of the US Marine Corps. symbolizes the blood of the Mexican peasantry that was spilled by US aggression… to always remind the Corp. of what it did to the Mexican civilian population in 1846- 48. People's ideologies may change, but we would not denounce El Plan de Aztlan, just like many in the African- American community would not denounce the legacy of the Black Panthers or
Malcolm X in the current African-American struggles for Human and Civil rights in the U.S. today.




Mcleanhatch said:

http://www.americanpatrol.com/MECHA/MEChAindex.html

This is what the MEChA Constitution says (Article II, section 1):

"General membership shall consist of any student who accepts, believes and works for the goals and objectives of MEChA, including the liberation of AZTLAN, meaning self-determination of our people in this occupied state and the physical liberation of our land."
LMAO!!!! are you serious??!?!?! look at the domain name "americanpatrol", is FASCIST ULTRA RIGHT WING SITE, by fucks just like you!!!!, do u believe that MECHA WOULD have a site that is hosted on americanpatrol.com??? none of that info is correct,

again MECHA IS FOUNDED ON El Plan de Santa Barbara, not El Plan de Aztlan.!!!!

get that through your thick SKULL!!!

and stop showing bogus info
 
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Mcleanhatch said:
http://www.umich.edu/~mechaum/mecha.htm
UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN

National MEChA Information


New National MEChA Constitution

El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan

El Plan de Santa Barbara
YOU DONT COMPREHESNE SHIT

"National MEChA Information


New National MEChA Constitution
El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan
El Plan de Santa Barbara
Other MEChA Web Pages
MEChA History
"

can't you see "El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan" is a historical document from the 60s, and is essential reading to know what some movements were back then, and for knowledge.

if you also look at the website it states:

"M.E.Ch.A.'s primary roles in the Chicano movement are:

1.To increase the number of Chicano students in higher education and to ensure that all necessary assistance is offered for successful completion.

2.To take part in the direction of the movement towards Chicano self-determination or control over one's destiny.

3.To socialize and politicize Chicano students on their particular campus, to the ideals of the movement.

4.To establish close working relations in the barrios, assisting in all that has to be done to reach justice and equality for our people.

5.To educate and mobilize barrio youth towards self-determination and not self-destruction.

We are the community and for the community.
"

now from their primary roles where does it state the take over of the southwest?
 
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then why cant you guys in the Mecha movement or polititians in government just denounce that specific paragraph in Plan de Atzlan.

i mean what if the KKK came out with a new constitution where they cleaned up there act but when asked to denounce their old ways they refuse??

same thing here Mechistas refuse to denounce the Plan de Atzlan which is a racist Plan!
 
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proppa said:
oh and yes the reason they want to give them drivers licenses, is so that they can vote. and its a fact that if you hold a CA driver's license you have the oppertunity to vote, legal or not.
Read the constitution bro, only citizens have the right to vote!
It is our biggest right, under the bill of rights....
 
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proppa said:
i did make my case. bustamante called black people niggers. more then once. point made.

also he just speaks about what he will do for his race. constantly.


how bout we do something for all race's?????? how bout me being white and broke, how bout me being able to get schoolarships with a C average?????? wait that wont happen i forgot im white.

all different racis's should be equal and treated alike. good people lazy people stupid people alike.
So vote for Ahnold instead?
He's got Pete Wilson leading his crew, if you ask any Latino,
Wilson's a new breed of the KKK.
 
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Mcleanhatch said:
McCLINTOCK IS ALSO AGAINST THE LINCENSE
Here's a simple question, why is McClincock and everyone else afraid of giving illegal aliens license's?
McClintock hinted on terrorism, hmmmm....
Lets see, the 911 terrorists were legally documented....
Where's the connection?....

Shouldn't it be more conveniant for anti-terrorists and anti-illegal aliens to have them ID'ed?

Idiots....
I swear man, nothing surprises me these days.
Racist fucks!
 
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Mcleanhatch said:
then why cant you guys in the Mecha movement or polititians in government just denounce that specific paragraph in Plan de Atzlan.

i mean what if the KKK came out with a new constitution where they cleaned up there act but when asked to denounce their old ways they refuse??

same thing here Mechistas refuse to denounce the Plan de Atzlan which is a racist Plan!

denoucn? becuase it not part of Mecha at all

Mcleanhatch said:

i mean what if the KKK came out with a new constitution where they cleaned up there act but when asked to denounce their old ways they refuse??

same thing here Mechistas refuse to denounce the Plan de Atzlan which is a racist Plan!
bad analogy again, Plan de Atzlan has nothing to do with the foundation of mecha!!!!! can you comprehend that statement?


damn u just as dumb as proppa
 
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miggidy said:
Here's a simple question, why is McClincock and everyone else afraid of giving illegal aliens license's?
McClintock hinted on terrorism, hmmmm....
Lets see, the 911 terrorists had valid DL's....
Where's the connection?....

Shouldn't it be more conveniant for anti-terrorists and anti-illegal aliens to have them ID'ed?

Idiots....
I swear man, nothing surprises me these days.
Racist fucks!
funnie thing is mcleanhatch is 3rd generation mexican-american

FASCIST RACIST ULTRA RIGHT WINGER
 
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^^^^
Like I said bro, nothing surprises me these days.
I almost bitch slapped my little brother's bestfriend's sister.
She's Chicano and wants to be white.
She says Mexicans have no class, unlike white people.
Can you believe that shit?

I said, "look here bitch, you're fat! Fat just like the majority of Mexican broads your age you fat bitch!"
LOL!
 
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miggidy said:
^^^^
Like I said bro, nothing surprises me these days.
I almost bitch slapped my little brother's bestfriend's sister.
She's Chicano and wants to be white.
She says Mexicans have no class, unlike white people.
Can you believe that shit?

shit, the television she watches, the bias history in the textbooks, shows nothing about chicano history, thats why this kids grow up like that.
 
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miggidy said:
Here's a simple question, why is McClincock and everyone else afraid of giving illegal aliens license's?
McClintock hinted on terrorism, hmmmm....
Lets see, the 911 terrorists were legally documented....
Where's the connection?....
first of all, they were here on expired Visas, so they were here illegally.

they got drivers lincesces from states that have laws like this one california is trying to pass.

and ya, by getting these drivers license any1 can get them, they dont even have to show legitimate proof of ID, dont have to get the finger prints taken (like we do).

do you know how easy it would be for a terrorist to impersonate a mexican illegal alien and get himself a drivers lisence?? weather you want to admit it or not arabs and hispanics have simular charcteristics. i mean tell me Sadam Husdsein and Vicente Fox dont in a way look similare.

what is the major form of ID they you need to board a flight within the USA (i know on ther few flights that i got on all i needed was a california state drivers lisence).