racist ass democratic mexicans.

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proppa said:
hell open the flood gates and let anyone and everyone in. then put a vote to the people of cali to succed.
SO WHAT IF HE DOES,YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH MEXICANS COMING TO THIS COUNTRY..AND JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE DOESNT SPEAK ENGLISH DOESNT MAKE THEM ANY LESS INTELLIGENT,THEY GOT SPANISH NEWS STATIONS AND NEWSPAPERS,THEY KNOW WHATS GOING ON,EVEN MORE THAN US FOR A MATTER FACT BECAUSE THIER AFFECTED BY ANY NEW IMMIGRATION LAWS THAT MAY TAKE AFFECT..
 
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I cant believe some of the bullshit Im reading. How the fuck is MEchA a racist group? The fact is it never was. My entire fam is full of Mechistas and Brown Berets and we all have friends and collegues of all kinds of races and creeds.

And Bustamonte is trying to get Mexicans into college for free??? Do you honestly think that is a real point on his agenda? Do you think that could actually happen? A scholorship aint shit unless you an athlete or a really smart person. Finnacial aid is a whole other story, but the fact is that no matter what color you are, you will get finnacial aid if your broke. So Proppa, how the fuck are we keeping you from getting into college?

And there is a big misconception that "illegal aliens" are working tax-free and getting free shit. If you get rid of all the immegrant workers this state will be done with. If you take out an entire pool of tax paying illegal mexicans, this state's economy will be over with. The truth is California depends on Mexicans. Do you know that California provides most of the world thier fruits and vegetables? With no one to work those fields, this globe is fucked. And I guarentee you Brad and Chip aint gonna drag they asses out to pick the fruit when the Mexicans are gone.

The truth is that the politicians know that Mexicans, illegal or not, are essential to the backbone of California. They just raise false issues to further thier political carreers. Its a strategy. And the pendulum swings back and forth. Thats checks and balances.

All these politicans are educated out of the same political science programs in college. Its all based on one American democratic system.
THATS SOME REAL SHIT
 
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so there should be no borders.


my swedish relatives cant come here, people from china cant norway germany france..........and so on and so forth.


but for mexicans we should just let everyone in no matter who they are or what there about.

do you realise that this is the united states????? not mexico/united states.


lets be real about this, we should just take down our borders then there would be no us no california no nothing. we would break up like the soviet union. that would be great you know. law enforcment would be trashed, schools would be come divied and there would be mexican schools and white school and what ever other schools. only spanish speaking schools, only english speaking schools.


i dont knock what the illegals are doing because there mexican. im doing it because the fact is it aint cool. how did cali do it with out the illegals before???????? how did they have farms and become such a huge part of the world with out everyone being illegal. oh wait i know how, we had people that were legally here doing the work. what a fucking concept.

the struggle in mexico aint gettin better cause no one is doing anything. they all just spend all day trying to run across the border, instead of trying to fix there country. but thats our problem right? its my fault mexico is horrible right? no its not.


swedish people arnt alowed here and would be kicked the fuck out if half there country tried to fly over here and say guess what were staying.

like i said. close the borders, i mean really make it impossible to get in. get every illegal out. and then turn around and let a resanobly percentage in FROM EVERY COUNTRY.

am i right or wrong. i thought country had borders and keep those borders regulated, because thats the country. they dont mix and match and join. why not let the mexicans in, leggaly.


and i got a complex because i dont want mexico to become part of california and i dont think anyone and everyone should be here. well fuck then i guess im racist agaisnt every single motha fuckin race. white blacks asians aliens animals even tree's.


BECAUSE I DONT WANT TO JOIN ANY FUCKING COUNTRY. LETS KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND DOES ANYONE SEE THIS, WE SHOULD BRING IN A HUGE GROUP OF LOWER INCOME PEOPLE AND "LOWER CLASS PEOPLE" WHEN THE GOVERMENT CANT EVEN TAKE CARE OF THE ONES HERE RIGHT NOW, CANT EVEN MAKE SCHOOLS FAST ENOUGH GET TEACHERS THAT SPEAK BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH GET DAY CARE SET UP, GET HELLA MORE WELFAIR PROGRAMS SET UP. CAUSE THERE WILL BE ALOT MORE IF MEXICO JOINED.


or we could just shut off the borders completly. shoot anyone that cross's and make every illegal here a citizen. every hard horking person here, make them a citizen reward them with citizen ship

but then close the fucking border off and regualte the population. i dont wanna get to the point where everyone lives in apartments because theres no more room from over population. and if we let mexico in, then africa will follow, then poor people in germany and pretty much anyone poor from any where in the world of every race. then this country will be dead. for a fact. it will be so over populated so drowned, that it will slowly die.


and guess what, that would be the goverments fault, no mexicans or anyone else. not there countryies not there people's. not anyone but BUSH's fault or who ever the president is.


cause the people that come across the border illegaly, do it for there family. and unless we took over mexico and killed everyone in there goverment and whipped out there drug cartel's. we would be fucked. or we could do what i just said, take out there goverment and drug cartels. and make it a teratory like puerto rico. and help re build mexico. but then people farther south would try to come into mexico/united states. then we would have to do the same with that country, then it would go farther south. and so on and so forth.

then we would have 1,000 states. which wont work.


so honestly. whats the answer. its easy to call me a rasist because i dont want all of mexico or africa or sweden here.

but you give no answers to solve the problme. and i dont want so half assed bull shit answer like. well just let um in and it will be cool.


you wanna talk shit talk it. but make a legitament answer with no holes. what should happen??????????????????????????????
 
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proppa said:
get every illegal out
What a great concept. Go back to Sweden or where ever you're family originated from. You do know that Mexicans were here before the US provoked a war and invaded Mexico? And guess what their gonna be after that also, illegal or not (because it's OUR homeland.)
You're a racist son of a bitch, just come out and say it.
 
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not all of mexico wants to be here , not all of mexico is running you ever heard of the zapatistas they are actually trying to change things not ever one can fight or change things because people have familys . a ass hole you think mexicans are lower class? aye proppa you dont want mexico to be apart of califas ? open your eyes mexican/chicano culture is here an been here since california has been in the union and befor that get used to it cuz its been this way
 
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yep im aracist. wtf


like i said read EVERYTHING I SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AND GIVE ME AN ANSWER ON WHAT WE ALL SHOULD DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


YOU TOOK 4 WORDS OUT OF ABOUT 80 SENTANCES AND MADE IT LOOK LIKE I SAID WE SHOULD JUST KICK ILLEGALS OUT AND ITS OVER.

WAY TO GO YOU SHOULD BE A POLITION CAUSE YOU JUST DID WHAT THEY ALL DO. TAKE SHIT AND TWIST IT.


DI YOU ALSO READ THE PART WHERE I SAID WE COULD MAKE EVERY ILLEGAL HERE CITIZEN'S????????


DID YA MISS THAT PART. COULD YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ANY OF THAT? IM JUST WONDERING.
 
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Proppa you talkin about holes in concepts? Take your own advice homie. You keep bumpin your gums about the same complaint and you aint got any legitimate answers. The borders are already closed idiot, if they wern't your ass would be Mexican. You aint gonna stop everyone. If you want your own people to work the "lower class" jobs then try and recruit some spoiled ass mutha fuckas to work the hardest labor they ever had to do. I wish you luck.

They tried getting rid of Mexicans from those jobs before and guess what happened? The Great Depression. Dont you remember when they deported all kinds of Mexicans back to Mexico, including ones that were born here back in the 30s? Oh wait, your history books dont tell you that.

Your history books also fail to tell you that the white men took away all the mexican land after the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo was signed. That treaty garenteed mexican land owners to keep thier shit if they became American citizens. It was signed by the US and the Mexicans and guess what. The white folks robbed them of all thier land anyway after the treaty was signed.

So fuck your border. We aint crossing that shit. Yall drew it around us, and took our shit illegally. We're more American than your ocean crossing European ass.
 
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WINO I LOVE THE MEXICO CULTURE. IVE EXPERIENCED IT FIRST HAND. AND SEEN THE FAMILY VALUES THAT ARE TAUGHT AND ITS AMAZING TO SEE THAT, BECAUSE I DONT SEE THAT STRONG FAMILY UNITY IN ALOT OF WHITE FAMILY THAT I KNOW.


I WANT MEXICAN CULTURE HERE, IT IS HERE AND BEEN WAY BEFORE I WAS EVER BORN.

WHAT YALL ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE IS IM SAYING. KICK EVERY MEXICAN OUT, STYFLE MEXICANS CULTURE AND MAKE THEM WHITE. FOLKS I DONT EVEN ACT LIKE THE "TYPICAL WHITE PERSON" THATS NOT WHO I AM AND THATS NOT HOW IVE BEEN SHAPPED THROUGH OUT MY LIFE.


LIKE I SAID, I JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN. I COME UP WITH A BILLION DIFFERENT SENARIOUS FROM MANY DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW.

AND ALL I GET FROM YALL IS. YOUR A RACIST.


NO IM NOT. I DONT SPEAK DOWN ON MEXICANS LEAVING HERE LEGALLY, I BLAME THE GOVERMENT FOR THE ONES THAT ARE HERE ILLEGALY. ANY RACE FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY I DONT WANT HERE. BECAUSE WE NEED TO FIX THIS SHIT. THIS COUNTRY IS BECOMING TRASHED. BECAUSE OF OUR GOVERMENT. I MEAN I CANT STAND THIS SHIT. WE NEED TO FIX EVERYTHING HERE. CLOSE THE BORDERS STOP WAR WITH ALL COUNTRIES AND JUST BUILD THIS COUNTRY BACK UP.

AND IF I WAS PRESIDENT AND WE DID THAT, I WOULD MAKE ALL ILLEGALS HERE THAT ARE DOING THERE PART. WHICH MOST ARE. I WOULD MAKE THEM CITIZEN'S. SO THEY WOULDNT HAVE TO WORRY BOUT BEING SENT BACK.


I DONT GOT ANYTHING AGAINST THESE PEOPLE. THEY DO WHAT THEY GOTTA DO FOR THEY FAMILY. BUT THIS COUNTRY IS SO FUCKED UP. BY THE TIME ALL THERE KIDS GROW UP WE WILL BE AS BAD AS MEXICO.


AGAIN, WHATS YALL ANSWERS, CAUSE THIS CLOSE TO MY HEART. AND JUST BEING CALLED A RACIST BECAUSE I DONT WANT THE WHOLE WORLD HERE HURTS ME AND IS SOME BULL SHIT.
 
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I WASNT HERE THEN THAT WASNT ME. MY FAMILY BARLEY SPOKE ENGLISH THEN.

I DIDNT DO THAT TO MEXICO OR MEXICANS I DIDNT COMMIT SLAVERY EITHER I DIDNT BRING BLACK PEOPLE OVER FROM AFRICA.


REALISE THAT SHIT IMMEDIETLY. IM WHITE I AINT SPOLIED AND I WORKING MY FUCKING ASS OFF FOR WHAT I GOT.

WHAT THE EUROPIENS DID WAS FUCKING WRONG. BUT MY FAMILY WASNT PART OF THAT SHIT. NO ONE IN MY FAMILY WAS PART OF THAT SHIT.


SO DONT SPEAK TO ME ABOUT THAT


ALSO ON THAT WALK AWAY FROM MY MEIXCAN FRIENDS COMMENT. I SPEAK LIKE THIS WITH ANYONE AND EVEYRONE. AINT ONE FRIEND I GOT SAYS THAT ALL MEXICANS WHO WANT TO BE HERE SHOULD BE. ALOT OF MY FRIENDS CAME HERE ILLEGALY. AND THEY SAID IM GLAD THAT WERE HERE.


THEY WANT PROGRAMS SET UP SO PEOPLE WONT HAVE TO RUN ACROSS THE BORDER. TO WHERE THE BORDERS ARE REALISTICALLY ESTABLISHED AND THERE ARE PROGRAMS SET UP TO LET PEOPLE COME IN LEGGALY AND ONLY LEGALLY. PEOPLE WHEN THEY COME IN SHOULD BE SET UP WITH JOBS HELPED TO FIND PLACES TO LIVE AND BE OFFERED PROGRAMS TO GO TO SCHOOL AND LEARN ENGLISH.

THATS COMMING FROM THEM. NOT ME.


ARE THEY RACIST TO?
 
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What you're still not understanding is that since Mexican's are in California and California is part of their motherland they are not illegal. That's like me telling you that you can't go to Sweden because it's not yours. Of course it yours, you were from there no matter where you may live now. Your roots and history is there. We didn't steal the land. We made it was it is. If you want a good read, then pick your ass up a people's history of the United States.
 
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proppa said:
I WASNT HERE THEN THAT WASNT ME. MY FAMILY BARLEY SPOKE ENGLISH THEN.

I DIDNT DO THAT TO MEXICO OR MEXICANS I DIDNT COMMIT SLAVERY EITHER I DIDNT BRING BLACK PEOPLE OVER FROM AFRICA.


REALISE THAT SHIT IMMEDIETLY. IM WHITE I AINT SPOLIED AND I WORKING MY FUCKING ASS OFF FOR WHAT I GOT.

WHAT THE EUROPIENS DID WAS FUCKING WRONG. BUT MY FAMILY WASNT PART OF THAT SHIT. NO ONE IN MY FAMILY WAS PART OF THAT SHIT.


SO DONT SPEAK TO ME ABOUT THAT
What you fail to realize is that even if you personnaly didnt do this shit, we (Mexicans) still have to deal with years of oppression to this day. You dont. I know you werent around to do shit. But the ideals that your adopting are those same ideals that have been inhibiting our progress as a people for years.

So even if you didnt do shit, you still on the team if your white with the typical white ideals.
 
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i dont got the typical white ideals. and honestly id say 80 percent of the white people in this country want no illegals here. and just have the border be real. stop everyone or at least strengthen it and let people in legally,


they dont have a problem with mexicans at all.


me i think we need to do something realisitc. like i said make them all citizens. then end all imagration here.


its not fair that the land got jacked, and its never goign to be. same with the indians. its never going to be fair.

if i was around back then i dont know what would have happened. i hope i wouldnt have been that easily influnced to just got jack peoples teritory.


but im not, im here, and this is now. reality is. mexico and the goverment in mexico isnt trying to take back or ask for california back. i mean if that happened there would just be to mexico's. and thats less fair for the people who made it over here and are here now. because then it would be different place same situation.


we need a realistic plan. im glad yall give me your point of view. and some times i do go off get pissed and say some shit i dont really feel or belive.


we just need to find an answer and thats a fact. others wise california will turn into mexico. people in mexico=======vitums of the soruption in the goverment and eveything thats been going on there for who knows how long.
 
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and saying that comment botu my typical white ideals. isnt that racist against whites???? or did i take it the wrong way.


cause all white people dont think alike and arnt for the same shit.
 
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maybe i should replace typical white ideals with "white privilage"... you keep saying that that was then this is now. For us then is now. Thats what white privliage is... you dont have to go through what we've been going through for years. Only now are you starting to get a taste of your own medicene and your angry. White people are just now expierienceing what it is to be invaded, taken over, oppressed. Now that the tables are turning on you, yall want to do something about us once again... now you see what we been going through for generations, and your pissed... you want to do something about it.

When I say you, Im not talking about you personnaly.
 
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i feel you on that.

honestly it be nice if all the bull shit could stop. all the sterio types racist people and eveything else could just stop.

that way race would never be brought up again in a negative way or in a confrintational way.
 
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white privlige may be not having to be hated on by racist white people.

but thats the only differents when it comes to how my mom and a smaller percentage of white people grew up and how alot of mexicans grew up.


people can have there opinions, but when they act on them to stop people from getting jobs going farther in life, and trying to hold them down. then they need to be taken out. and the thing is, there not. the same owners of the same bussness that have been doing shit for years are still there.

and im glad that it seems mexicans here that are bussness owners arnt taking it out on the white working class. shit needs to just settle. all the bull shit gone and put aside, and a fresh start. but alot of white people arnt willing to do that.


so 20 years from now who knows what this place will be or where well be. its a scary thought.
 
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SJN14 said:
You do know that Mexicans were here before the US provoked a war and invaded Mexico? And guess what their gonna be after that also, illegal or not (because it's OUR homeland.)
how can Aztecs (mexicans) from Mexico claim northern california as their homeland?? these people left north america to go settle in Mexico City, so how can some1 claim this land as theirs.

i mean ya, shit happens but i feel things happen for a reason, and America has been blessed with many things, that sometimes it makes me wonder if some other worldly being is looking after us and helping us out.