No On 8 / No On Religion

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SeriouslyThug

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SFC I-Side said:
Im really try to make this my last post. I am not a religious person but I was brought up in the church.
To compare discrimination of homosexuals and race in the same sentence is complete bullshit, one pertains to choice one doesnt. and race and sexual persuasion are uncomparable things.
I dont know if there is a gay gene or peopel choose but,

They deserve absolutely no special rights to justify or try to glorify there lifestyle. A person has every right to discriminate agaisnt a persons sexuality.
Homos should be able to live with there decesion in peace, they should not be rewarded and uplifted by society. I think alot of people turn to homosexuality because of depression, confusion, sexual awkwardness, childhood molestation, and other reasons dealing with the mental state. To say homosexuality is ok, is to unreasonably justify it. I got no gay friends, dont know any gay people, kinda stay away from em, but i think hella dudes are gay cuz people tell em its ok to be gay.
Kinda long but fags piss me off, especially cuz there good at politics for some reason
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lolol, your opinion is first of all based on the assumption that homosexuality is a choice. Is it? Is it not? I dont know, but dont go assuming such things and founding your whole belief system and include repercussions n shit based on an assumptions. In the end why does it matter? God will do the justice in the end. Isnt that what you believe? Just worry about yourself. There is no such thing that states you must have an opinion and vote on every proposition.
Go beyond. You are taking on more than you would want to handle, and this isnt a threat or anything, but im just saying that everybody already has a lot of personal work that needs to be done and useless shit that doesnt even require an opinion is best left alone.
 
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today in fresno a priest came out of the closet and said no on 8 on tv
- just thought everyone should know..
he prob wouldnt have ever told everyone he was gay if it wasnt for this prop
no and 8 and def no on religion
we already knows this is some bible shit saying 'between a man and a woman' and its seperation of church and state. then we got everyone that says yes on 8 and no to religion, then sayin that they dont want homos to get the same benefits and they do in their own marriage. so who does give a fuck? gays. thats about it. and then of course the dumb fuck bible bangers who say the bible is the law of the land.
 
SFC I-Side

SFC I-Side

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ThaG said:
OK, but can you tell me why we should treat marriage, which is in reality nothing more than a signature with a lot of legal problems following from it, as restricted to male-female couples only? What's the reasoning here?
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haaa, because we know what marriage is. Its a man and woman joining together in union, pussy and dick, whatever u want to call it, and it originates, i believe, in the church. we dont need to redefine the definition to please a special interest group.

and for the guy who said, who cares, worry about yourself, god will take care of it in the end.........i dont like that attitude. and it almost reasons that its ok to permit anything in society, this is just a dream world, Gods callin the shots. I dont believe in god, and I do believe somethin aint right about two dudes fuckn in the ass.

and ur right I shouldnt assume its a choice, but that doesnt mean I cant lean towards that stance, I have heard of lots of gays that have changed there lifestyle. Its not that I dont want this because God is angry, its cuz I dont see gay couples as being productive for society, if they wanna do there thing, fine, it should be pushed into a corner, swept under the rug. Not pranced around mtv dating shows like its a fad to be gay.
 
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ThaG

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SFC I-Side said:
haaa, because we know what marriage is. Its a man and woman joining together in union, pussy and dick, whatever u want to call it, and it originates, i believe, in the church. we dont need to redefine the definition to please a special interest group.
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It originated in the church you say

Then, if we have a separation of church and state, why do we import the definition from the church and give it legal meaning???
 
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Fucky McFuckerson

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ThaG said:
It originated in the church you say

Then, if we have a separation of church and state, why do we import the definition from the church and give it legal meaning???
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Yeah i never got that myself.

Seperation of church and state does NOT exist anywhere. How come when you go to court for a testimony, you have to swear on a bible???

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HERESY

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How come when you go to court for a testimony, you have to swear on a bible???
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Because it's a tradition that has carried on for decades and you actually don't have to do it.

BUt its ok for them to learn about "normal" sexuality at age 6? I am sure if that were a straight teacher, no one would have gaven a shit.
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If it were my kids I would as the teachers private life and sexual orientation/preference have no place in the learning environment. I don't care if she was getting married to a man, how is going on a field trip to a wedding an educational experience for first graders?
 
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Fucky McFuckerson

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HERESY said:
Because it's a tradition that has carried on for decades and you actually don't have to do it.
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Wait...really? Nice.

What about our currency? Thats some bullshit right there.

If it were my kids I would as the teachers private life and sexual orientation/preference have no place in the learning environment. I don't care if she was getting married to a man, how is going on a field trip to a wedding an educational experience for first graders?
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And i agree with you 206%..my comment was directed towards the person who posted the story.
 
Mr. Nice Guy

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HERESY said:
Because it's a tradition that has carried on for decades and you actually don't have to do it.
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That is true it is not mandatory, but just the fact that it has become accepted to the point of common practice perpetuates the influence of Church in State.


"under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all" :ermm:
 
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Foul Mouth

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SFC I-Side said:
To compare discrimination of homosexuals and race in the same sentence is complete bullshit, one pertains to choice one doesnt.
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you know its a choice? thats the most ingorant statement about gays and yet everybodys uses it...........i seriously doubt a dudes gonna choose to be gay so his parents could dis-own him and society could look down on him and wont accept him?


or how about a dude choose to be gay but keep it inside and hide it and get married and have kids only to divorce because he cant hide it any more? naw, that wouldnt make much sence.........

or how about the dude that chooses to be gay but thinks its a sin so he forces himself to go to church so god can change him? naw, that would kind of the defeat the whole purpose of him choosing to be gay........

or how about he chooses to be gay so he can just commit suicide due to the pressure? yeah, maybe your right...........
 
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Foul Mouth

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HERESY said:
Foul Mouth, do you have any scientific evidence relating to homosexuality in humans being biological?
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you know i dont, but you can also ask the opposite question to who ever says its a choice right?

i dont know what your belief is, but do you have any scientific evidence saying it isnt biological or its a choice?
 
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you know i dont, but you can also ask the opposite question to who ever says its a choice right?
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So you don't yet you're implying that it isn't a choice? Oh yeah, now it's ok to look at the other side of the fence?

i dont know what your belief is, but do you have any scientific evidence saying it isnt biological or its a choice?
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I believe homosexuality is a choice, but also a biological glitch/fuck up/anomality similar to being born retarded, with four arms or with down syndrome.

This might make or break your position depending on how you look at it.

http://www.boston.com/news/science/articles/2003/12/02/the_biological_basis_of_homosexuality/

Concerning other evidence, one major source is Narth. However, some may consider Narth bias due to possible conservative religious views. I'm simply posting these links so you can gather your own thoughts and look into them not because I agree with them.

http://www.narth.com/
 
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ThaG

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HERESY said:
Foul Mouth, do you have any scientific evidence relating to homosexuality in humans being biological?
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Sexual preferences are genetically determined and they can be genetically/developmentally screwed

Which has been demonstrated in model organisms very nicely and although we don't know the genes responsible, we know it can be congenital in humans too

search pubmed for that and you'll get a lot of review and research papers discussing the issue

However, it can also be the result of fashion and I personally have a problem with that
 
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ThaG said:
Sexual preferences are genetically determined and they can be genetically/developmentally screwed

Which has been demonstrated in model organisms very nicely and although we don't know the genes responsible, we know it can be congenital in humans too

search pubmed for that and you'll get a lot of review and research papers discussing the issue

However, it can also be the result of fashion and I personally have a problem with that
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Thanks for the heads up I book marked pubmed.

Also heres an interesting read:

http://www.slate.com/id/2158877
 
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Fucky McFuckerson

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I also beleive it is genetic...but not in ALL cases. I have SEEN some people CHOOSE to be gay due to being damamged by the opposite sex so bad that they just WANT to try the same sex to see if its any different...only to go back to being heterosexual.

GO figure.
 
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