No On 8 / No On Religion
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I dont hate gay people, i dont really care if theyre gay or not, fuck it. However, I was brought up in a household where i was taught marriage is sacred. its between a man and a woman, and it's because of this sacred union that we exist. I was taught men and women were to be married later to procreate. i know its oldschool as fuck, and alot of ppl have children out of wedlock ect, but thats just how i was brought up. i believe in God, but im not a big fan of the church. so my decision to vote yes on 8 isnt just because i believe in God. to me homosexuality isnt normal and it cant be compared to a man and a womens union.
idk if its a choice or not. but i just cant see both unions as equal. my cousin is gay and hes been living with his partner for years. they adopted a 9 year old boy and he never showed any traits of being gay. he seemed like a normal 9 year old boy. hes 14 now and he fuckin dresses like a female. and my cousin and his partner praise him like its the best thing ever. so i think wut u see and consider normal sometimes influences kids and their preferences. theyre only kids. so i dont want any of my children being told, taught, or thinking homosexuality is normal. and that marriage between two men is just as normal as between a man and a woman. i know everyone has their own opinion tho. this is just mine. i respect people and their opinion, and i dont go around spitting hate towards gays or nething like that.
idk if its a choice or not. but i just cant see both unions as equal. my cousin is gay and hes been living with his partner for years. they adopted a 9 year old boy and he never showed any traits of being gay. he seemed like a normal 9 year old boy. hes 14 now and he fuckin dresses like a female. and my cousin and his partner praise him like its the best thing ever. so i think wut u see and consider normal sometimes influences kids and their preferences. theyre only kids. so i dont want any of my children being told, taught, or thinking homosexuality is normal. and that marriage between two men is just as normal as between a man and a woman. i know everyone has their own opinion tho. this is just mine. i respect people and their opinion, and i dont go around spitting hate towards gays or nething like that.
I'm asking you because you're the OP, and if you pay attention I am addressing other people. If you want proof regarding it being a choice, hit the links I provided as they may shed some light on the subject or lead you to other sources. You can hit the website ThaG listed, and finally, you can google the two words I mentioned (transitory homosexual and transitional homosexual) and start from there.
For all those saying it isn't a choice go here:
http://www.queerbychoice.com/
For all those saying it isn't a choice go here:
http://www.queerbychoice.com/
ok so its about securing a safe environment for children, in your eyes. that'd be a good argument if there wasnt something called being sterile...........or how about when two people dont want kids, they just want each other......terrible argument...........
your other argument about the discimination. i dont care if groups marry. as far as cousins, again i dont care. it dont affect me......
your second paragraph is terrible........i dont think for myself cus i made a thread that has been done before with the same views as other anti religious members...........buuuuuuuuuut you agree with the opposite.........so that means you dont think for yourself right? cus your views are shared with other members right? im saying religious people cant think for them selves.they're not suppose to. they're suppose to side with the churches beliefs. go tell the pope your a catholic and tell him all the stuff you dont believe. you wont be a catholic anymore to the vatican, just in your own eyes.....im not sayn your catholic, thats a general statement..........if you say your a vegiterian, but you eat a steak twice a month, you aint a vegiterian, your just an aspiring vegiterian...........
your "thinking for your self" drag is crap.im talking about church followers..........you think im talking about prop 8, theres only a yes or no, of course you aint gonna be by yourself in your view.......
first of all, you were talking about prop 8 being that you openly stated in your introduction that this thread is for open minded people that thought for themselves. then expressed that those people were the ones voting no on prop 8, due to the fact that you seem to be under the impression most people vote yes because of some type of religious beliefs.
sterile people can adopt, and people not wanting children is a fairly new idea, because not too long ago, we didnt have all this technology and bullshit, so kids were used to work farms and other such things.
and about groups marrying, once that is excepted and cousins marrying is accepted, your kids will be taught to accept these types of ideas, at young ages which will have negative effects on them. they may even possibly take part in such things. lines have to be drawn somewhere, if just anyone can get married, if just anyone can do anything, there is chaos.
sterile people can adopt, and people not wanting children is a fairly new idea, because not too long ago, we didnt have all this technology and bullshit, so kids were used to work farms and other such things.
and about groups marrying, once that is excepted and cousins marrying is accepted, your kids will be taught to accept these types of ideas, at young ages which will have negative effects on them. they may even possibly take part in such things. lines have to be drawn somewhere, if just anyone can get married, if just anyone can do anything, there is chaos.
ur right, the government should be able to control our lives to the fullest, u know what, they should tell us what and when we can eat, fuck we need to get rid of this chaos! The government needs to tell me when and where we can work, what and when we can drive, when and where can go places, the government should tell us what kind of music is "Acceptable" too
controlling what you do is not the same as controlling what you cant do. and you driving doesnt have a high chance of you causing any harm to anyones rights. or when you eat. people on this site, such as yourself just like to make everything over the top and twist words when they have no argument.
and furthermore, all your examples are day to day activities, which cannot be compared to the government not allowing two people with abnormal sex acts to enter into a contract with each other.
and furthermore, all your examples are day to day activities, which cannot be compared to the government not allowing two people with abnormal sex acts to enter into a contract with each other.
That actually depends on the culture. Many Ancient Greeks considered love between men as something higher than love between man and a woman. So it's entirely relative, which leads to my next point
See, that's the problem. You admit that your opinion is based on the way you were brought up, but you refuse to reevaluate it according to reality, despite acknowledging the fact. If we as a species can't get overcome this trait of ours, which both allowed transgenerational learning (what made us so successful and enabled the development of civilization) and in the same provided fertile ground for all sorts of dangerous indoctrination, we will not make it for much longer.
See, that's the problem. You admit that your opinion is based on the way you were brought up, but you refuse to reevaluate it according to reality, despite acknowledging the fact. If we as a species can't get overcome this trait of ours, which both allowed transgenerational learning (what made us so successful and enabled the development of civilization) and in the same provided fertile ground for all sorts of dangerous indoctrination, we will not make it for much longer.
