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Holyfield was not linked to Balco so stop it. Holyfield didn't whin about extra blood testing that's why most people never heard about it. I just keep slapping Manny Fans with facts.
So Holyfield isn't linked to Balco? Ok man, I just made it up. smh. The labs just had his phone number, date of birth and address just for the hell of it under the name of "Evan Fields". No link there! case closed!

A new drugs scandal in the United States is believed to be so potentially damaging that it has been dubbed “The East Coast Balco” and yesterday the first global name was implicated: Evander Holyfield, the four-time heavyweight boxing champion.

Holyfield issued an immediate denial, but evidence has emerged from raids on a number of pharmacies on the East Coast that raises serious questions about his connections with pharmaceutical companies.

Holyfield, 44, started his professional career as a cruiserweight more than 20 years ago. He always traded on his moniker, “The Real Deal”, and was long viewed as one of the more admirable figures in the sport. However, that reputation has taken a considerable hammering in recent years as he has ignored all the evidence of his advancing years and refused to retire from the ring.

Holyfield has won only four of his past ten bouts, yet it was only on Tuesday that he was fuelling the media at a Manhattan press conference with predictions about his achievements at his next bout, which is only 15 days away. The contest is in Corpus Christi, Texas, against Vinny Maddalone, a 33-year-old brawler with an unremarkable record who, Holyfield attested, would be just another statistic on his march to becoming undisputed world heavyweight champion again.

But even as he spoke, investigators were beginning to analyse their findings from two drugs raids in Florida earlier that day. They were carried out by federal and state agents, one on a clinic in Orlando called the Signature Pharmacy, the other on the Palm Beach Rejuvenation Center in Jupiter. The former is a client of the latter, apparently to the tune of some £10 million.

It is the size of the business that has attracted the interest of investigators. The fact that their work has thrown up the names of some notable athletes is, to them, something of a sideshow.

The first name to appear in newspaper reports on Wednesday was Richard Rydze, a team physician for the Pittsburgh Steelers American football franchise, who is alleged to have used his credit card to buy $150,000 worth of human growth hormone from the Signature Pharmacy.

Yesterday, however, a report from CNNSI.com was alleging that the client lists had led investigators to Holyfield, too. Holyfield was not named in person but the name “Evan Fields”, caught their attention. “Fields”, it allegedly turned out, shares the same birth date as Holyfield — October 19, 1962 — and his address in Fairfield, Georgia, was similar. On telephoning the number on the documents, the call was answered by Holyfield himself, investigators allege.

According to reports, “Evan Fields” did not receive prescriptions directly through the mail but picked them up through a Georgia physician, whose offices were also raided. The drugs allegedly came from Applied Pharmacy, in Mobile, Alabama, which itself was raided by investigators last autumn.

Two other names have been linked through the Applied Pharmacy client lists, one associated with the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim baseball franchise and José Canseco, a retired baseball slugger, whose openness about his drugs history is such that he has made a considerable amount of money from selling a book about it.

Investigators are looking into documents which apparently allege that “Fields” picked up supplies of syringes plus three vials of testosterone and two vials of Glukor, a drug used to treat male impotency but also believed to be used by body-builders before and after steroid cycles; five vials of Saizen, a brand of human growth hormone, and other related supplies. It is claimed that he returned for further treatment for hypogonadism, a form of male impotency.​
 
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same goes for mosley who was juiced up but yet still passed any test that was given to him funny how after he fights manny he tells floyd "don't fight this guy unless you make him test up until the fight" damn.
in those days drug tests were practically non-existent. And if you did fail a drug test do you know what they would do? They would send the fighter a letter in the mail saying they failed and not to do it again lmao.

A lot of people speculate that's why Oscar never challenged to get that fight a No Contest, because some insiders say he tested positive for that fight and if it ever went to a hearing that info would be brought to light.

Remember when Roy Jones tested positive? No one was supposed to find out about that it actually leaked. He and his opponent tested positive and all they did was send him a letter in the mail!

We've came a long ways from the 90's that's for sure
 
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^^You did just make it up Holyfield picked up prescriptions that came from Applied Pharmacy not Balco. Look it up smart guy.. You can fool the dumb ass Manny fans with your half truths and double standards, but you know I'm too smart and I always expose you with facts.

FYI, Holyfield and Mosley not testing drity by the normal boxing tests, is more of a reason for random drug testing in boxing. But I'm sure you have a excuse for that too.
 
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in those days drug tests were practically non-existent. And if you did fail a drug test do you know what they would do? They would send the fighter a letter in the mail saying they failed and not to do it again lmao.

A lot of people speculate that's why Oscar never challenged to get that fight a No Contest, because some insiders say he tested positive for that fight and if it ever went to a hearing that info would be brought to light.

Remember when Roy Jones tested positive? No one was supposed to find out about that it actually leaked. He and his opponent tested positive and all they did was send him a letter in the mail!

We've came a long ways from the 90's that's for sure

How did boxing come a long way from the 90's but yet they still using the 90's drug testing system?? All you said in the above quote is more of a reason for random testing..
 

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So Holyfield isn't linked to Balco? Ok man, I just made it up. smh. The labs just had his phone number, date of birth and address just for the hell of it under the name of "Evan Fields". No link there! case closed!

A new drugs scandal in the United States is believed to be so potentially damaging that it has been dubbed “The East Coast Balco” and yesterday the first global name was implicated: Evander Holyfield, the four-time heavyweight boxing champion.

Holyfield issued an immediate denial, but evidence has emerged from raids on a number of pharmacies on the East Coast that raises serious questions about his connections with pharmaceutical companies.

Holyfield, 44, started his professional career as a cruiserweight more than 20 years ago. He always traded on his moniker, “The Real Deal”, and was long viewed as one of the more admirable figures in the sport. However, that reputation has taken a considerable hammering in recent years as he has ignored all the evidence of his advancing years and refused to retire from the ring.

Holyfield has won only four of his past ten bouts, yet it was only on Tuesday that he was fuelling the media at a Manhattan press conference with predictions about his achievements at his next bout, which is only 15 days away. The contest is in Corpus Christi, Texas, against Vinny Maddalone, a 33-year-old brawler with an unremarkable record who, Holyfield attested, would be just another statistic on his march to becoming undisputed world heavyweight champion again.

But even as he spoke, investigators were beginning to analyse their findings from two drugs raids in Florida earlier that day. They were carried out by federal and state agents, one on a clinic in Orlando called the Signature Pharmacy, the other on the Palm Beach Rejuvenation Center in Jupiter. The former is a client of the latter, apparently to the tune of some £10 million.

It is the size of the business that has attracted the interest of investigators. The fact that their work has thrown up the names of some notable athletes is, to them, something of a sideshow.

The first name to appear in newspaper reports on Wednesday was Richard Rydze, a team physician for the Pittsburgh Steelers American football franchise, who is alleged to have used his credit card to buy $150,000 worth of human growth hormone from the Signature Pharmacy.

Yesterday, however, a report from CNNSI.com was alleging that the client lists had led investigators to Holyfield, too. Holyfield was not named in person but the name “Evan Fields”, caught their attention. “Fields”, it allegedly turned out, shares the same birth date as Holyfield — October 19, 1962 — and his address in Fairfield, Georgia, was similar. On telephoning the number on the documents, the call was answered by Holyfield himself, investigators allege.

According to reports, “Evan Fields” did not receive prescriptions directly through the mail but picked them up through a Georgia physician, whose offices were also raided. The drugs allegedly came from Applied Pharmacy, in Mobile, Alabama, which itself was raided by investigators last autumn.

Two other names have been linked through the Applied Pharmacy client lists, one associated with the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim baseball franchise and José Canseco, a retired baseball slugger, whose openness about his drugs history is such that he has made a considerable amount of money from selling a book about it.

Investigators are looking into documents which apparently allege that “Fields” picked up supplies of syringes plus three vials of testosterone and two vials of Glukor, a drug used to treat male impotency but also believed to be used by body-builders before and after steroid cycles; five vials of Saizen, a brand of human growth hormone, and other related supplies. It is claimed that he returned for further treatment for hypogonadism, a form of male impotency.​
Wow, Evans Fields and Holyfield answered when they called the number? Could my favorite fighter/boxer of all time be a cheat?
 
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You did just make it up Holyfield picked up prescriptions that came from Applied Pharmacy not Balco. Look it up smart guy.. You can fool the dumb ass Manny fans with your half truths and double standards, but you know I'm too smart and I always expose you with facts.
If pacquiao was linked to a balco lab your head would explode from excitement. But since it's holyfield there is obviously no link. I see your agenda.

FYI, Holyfield and Mosley not testing drity by the normal boxing tests, is more of a reason for random drug testing in boxing. But I'm sure you have a excuse for that too.
Actually I do. If you see my post above drug testing in the 90's was as weak as possibly could be.

My original point though was that the drug test Holyfield had to take was a one time blood test that was scheduled (meaning he knew when and where he had to take the test beforehand), not olympic style testing like floyd has demanded (which pac has agreed to so I don't even know why you're bringing it up again). Totally different. Any juicer will tell you that if you know when the drug test is you can beat the test. I'm not saying Holyfield was juicing (I always thought he had Tyson's number) but it's not even remotely the same thing as floyd-pac. One time, scheduled test vs olympic style random testing that takes place over the course of months
 
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So Holyfield isn't linked to Balco? Ok man, I just made it up. smh. The labs just had his phone number, date of birth and address just for the hell of it under the name of "Evan Fields". No link there! case closed!

A new drugs scandal in the United States is believed to be so potentially damaging that it has been dubbed “The East Coast Balco” and yesterday the first global name was implicated: Evander Holyfield, the four-time heavyweight boxing champion.

Holyfield issued an immediate denial, but evidence has emerged from raids on a number of pharmacies on the East Coast that raises serious questions about his connections with pharmaceutical companies.

Holyfield, 44, started his professional career as a cruiserweight more than 20 years ago. He always traded on his moniker, “The Real Deal”, and was long viewed as one of the more admirable figures in the sport. However, that reputation has taken a considerable hammering in recent years as he has ignored all the evidence of his advancing years and refused to retire from the ring.

Holyfield has won only four of his past ten bouts, yet it was only on Tuesday that he was fuelling the media at a Manhattan press conference with predictions about his achievements at his next bout, which is only 15 days away. The contest is in Corpus Christi, Texas, against Vinny Maddalone, a 33-year-old brawler with an unremarkable record who, Holyfield attested, would be just another statistic on his march to becoming undisputed world heavyweight champion again.

But even as he spoke, investigators were beginning to analyse their findings from two drugs raids in Florida earlier that day. They were carried out by federal and state agents, one on a clinic in Orlando called the Signature Pharmacy, the other on the Palm Beach Rejuvenation Center in Jupiter. The former is a client of the latter, apparently to the tune of some £10 million.

It is the size of the business that has attracted the interest of investigators. The fact that their work has thrown up the names of some notable athletes is, to them, something of a sideshow.

The first name to appear in newspaper reports on Wednesday was Richard Rydze, a team physician for the Pittsburgh Steelers American football franchise, who is alleged to have used his credit card to buy $150,000 worth of human growth hormone from the Signature Pharmacy.

Yesterday, however, a report from CNNSI.com was alleging that the client lists had led investigators to Holyfield, too. Holyfield was not named in person but the name “Evan Fields”, caught their attention. “Fields”, it allegedly turned out, shares the same birth date as Holyfield — October 19, 1962 — and his address in Fairfield, Georgia, was similar. On telephoning the number on the documents, the call was answered by Holyfield himself, investigators allege.

According to reports, “Evan Fields” did not receive prescriptions directly through the mail but picked them up through a Georgia physician, whose offices were also raided. The drugs allegedly came from Applied Pharmacy, in Mobile, Alabama, which itself was raided by investigators last autumn.

Two other names have been linked through the Applied Pharmacy client lists, one associated with the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim baseball franchise and José Canseco, a retired baseball slugger, whose openness about his drugs history is such that he has made a considerable amount of money from selling a book about it.

Investigators are looking into documents which apparently allege that “Fields” picked up supplies of syringes plus three vials of testosterone and two vials of Glukor, a drug used to treat male impotency but also believed to be used by body-builders before and after steroid cycles; five vials of Saizen, a brand of human growth hormone, and other related supplies. It is claimed that he returned for further treatment for hypogonadism, a form of male impotency.​
Applied Pharmacy is not Balco it's a online Pharmacy.
 
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Wow, Evans Fields and Holyfield answered when they called the number? Could my favorite fighter/boxer of all time be a cheat?
to be honest I wouldn't even worry about it man it was a different era where I'm sure everyone was doing it. If Roy Jones & James Toney juiced, I'm sure 75% of boxers did in the 90's. It was like baseball before they implemented drug testing. Like I said at that time the tests, if they did any at all, were absolute jokes.
 
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If pacquiao was linked to a balco lab your head would explode from excitement. But since it's holyfield there is obviously no link. I see your agenda.



Actually I do. If you see my post above drug testing in the 90's was as weak as possibly could be.

My original point though was that the drug test Holyfield had to take was a one time blood test that was scheduled (meaning he knew when and where he had to take the test beforehand), not olympic style testing like floyd has demanded (which pac has agreed to so I don't even know why you're bringing it up again). Totally different. Any juicer will tell you that if you know when the drug test is you can beat the test. I'm not saying Holyfield was juicing (I always thought he had Tyson's number) but it's not even remotely the same thing as floyd-pac. One time, scheduled test vs olympic style random testing that takes place over the course of months
And if it was random OSDT'ing Holyfield would've probably pissed dirty. That's why Mayweather is asking for random testing because he beleives Manny is on something. Manny ducking random testing and now ducking Mayweather again tells me a lot.
 
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I'm all for a level playing field, but why only demand OST's on a fight to fight basis? You can't clean up the sport by applying stringent testing to just .01% of the fights.


Makes no sense.
 

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How the fuck are you scared of needles when you have tats?

This is some fuckboy shit right here.

But anyway, they said testing isn't an issue any more. Ok, cool, now go ahead and fight.
Lol, now they're (Team Pacquiao) having problems with investors, I guess....

Didn't Pacquiao say they were negotiating?

He probably meant negotiating with investors, not Floyd Mayweather.
 

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to be honest I wouldn't even worry about it man it was a different era where I'm sure everyone was doing it. If Roy Jones & James Toney juiced, I'm sure 75% of boxers did in the 90's. It was like baseball before they implemented drug testing. Like I said at that time the tests, if they did any at all, were absolute jokes.
No excuse bruh, I'm not saying Evander was juicing but there are some suspicions...
 
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Lol, now they're (Team Pacquiao) having problems with investors, I guess....

Didn't Pacquiao say they were negotiating?

He probably meant negotiating with investors, not Floyd Mayweather.
who said there are problems with investors? Like I said Top Rank is getting offers and will present to Floyd. If floyd doesn't like it, Bob Arum already said that would be fine and they would proceed to negotiate as normal.

There's a lot of money out there man, real money. Remember last year when Nelson Mandela's family had all those investors and over $100 million and they wanted to have pac-floyd fight there for Nelson Mandela's birthday? That was real money. Now, I don't care if floyd or manny or whomever wants to fight in Nevada instead, but the money is out there for sure. Don King did similar things with numerous Ali fights which ended up bringing in more money for Ali than otherwise, so it's not far fetched at all.
 
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How did boxing come a long way from the 90's but yet they still using the 90's drug testing system?? All you said in the above quote is more of a reason for random testing..
For one, no one got in any trouble for testing positive and it was kept under wraps.

Two, if we're talking about Nevada, they do a random blood test any time of the year, and they take multiple urine samples before and immediately after the fight.

The drug testing is much more thorough & advanced now, as the science has grown many drugs that weren't detected by urine in the years past now are.

It's far from perfect though, and still has a long way to go no question about that and it certainly needs to improve more if people really want a clean and fair sport.

Further, drug testing varies from state to state and there are even a couple states that don't test at all, so that will always remain an obstacle.
 

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for the record pacquiao NEVER once said he was scared of needles or anything like that. The only thing that ever came out of pac's mouth was that he felt he was weakened if blood is drawn on the day of the fight.
I backed Pacquiao on that because I wouldn't want blood drawn the day of the fight either, but then I started backing Floyd, when Floyd gave him a 2-week no blood drawn window. He didn't even offer Shane or Victoria the two week cut off but he offered it to Manny.

So I don't understand why they turned the fight down if Manny himself said "just not the day of"