Mayweather To Return May 5th Wants Pacquiao!! STEP UP MANNY!!
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If Chavez drops his belt it's not going to be because HE is scared to fight Sergio. It's going to be because everyone else around him is scared for him to fight Sergio.
I remember Chavez saying after 1 of his recent fights that he is willing to fight Sergio. I think it was the one Sergio was at??
So let's chill with all that "run" talk.
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who else can arum have chavez fight though?
Both cotto & chavez are top rank, and we know how much arum loves in-house fighting.
It's either that or Chavez has to fight Sergio Martinez, who's promoted by Lou Dibella, for a fraction of the money and a guaranteed beating. At least against Cotto he'll have about a 15-20 pound weight advantage plus a very big height and reach advantage.
On top of that, Cotto makes more money for Arum than Chavez does, as Cotto is probably his second biggest money maker after Pacquiao. Cotto is the cashcow, not chavez.
Both cotto & chavez are top rank, and we know how much arum loves in-house fighting.
It's either that or Chavez has to fight Sergio Martinez, who's promoted by Lou Dibella, for a fraction of the money and a guaranteed beating. At least against Cotto he'll have about a 15-20 pound weight advantage plus a very big height and reach advantage.
On top of that, Cotto makes more money for Arum than Chavez does, as Cotto is probably his second biggest money maker after Pacquiao. Cotto is the cashcow, not chavez.
I'm just asking...what about advertisment dollars from outside companies, like beer makers, Budwieser the king of beers? How much do they put up just to have their name mentioned before the fight and have their logo in the center of the ring for the biggest boxing event in history?
Maybe they should take it out of the Pay Per View structure and take it to public access and concentrate on the mulitude of advertisment dollars that could be had by companies like Nike, Pepsi, auto companies, etc...get the marketers who handle the Super Bowl and package it up with their hype machine. HBO is stale and dry. Put Mayweather and Manny in a series of commercials and really reach the ordinary public.
Maybe they should take it out of the Pay Per View structure and take it to public access and concentrate on the mulitude of advertisment dollars that could be had by companies like Nike, Pepsi, auto companies, etc...get the marketers who handle the Super Bowl and package it up with their hype machine. HBO is stale and dry. Put Mayweather and Manny in a series of commercials and really reach the ordinary public.
Sorruy bout that 2-0-Six iI edited my original comment and added a paragraph...
"Maybe they should take it out of the Pay Per View structure and take it to public access and concentrate on the mulitude of advertisment dollars that could be had by companies like Nike, Pepsi, auto companies, etc...get the marketers who handle the Super Bowl and package it up with their hype machine. HBO is stale and dry. Put Mayweather and Manny in a series of commercials and really reach the ordinary public."
"Maybe they should take it out of the Pay Per View structure and take it to public access and concentrate on the mulitude of advertisment dollars that could be had by companies like Nike, Pepsi, auto companies, etc...get the marketers who handle the Super Bowl and package it up with their hype machine. HBO is stale and dry. Put Mayweather and Manny in a series of commercials and really reach the ordinary public."
This fight don't need no damn investors. ODLH vs Mayweather didn't need no investors and neither does this fight. It's all a smoke screen and media games by Top Rank to duck out on the fight. The advertisment dollars alone can pay both Floyd and Manny. The only people that believe this investor bullshit are Manny fans that don't want to admit that he's ducking Mayweather.
there have already been investors that have came forward who said they are willing to up crazy number like $150 million and paying $75 each UPFRONT, shit like that. From a financial perspective I think it would be at least worth looking at what kind of offers are out there, I mean why not? Worst case scenario is it gets rejected and you go the traditional route. I don't personally care one way or another it's not like I get a dime.
They don't need no goddamn investors to make this fight happen. All they need is for Manny to tell Arum to STFU, for the two camps to negotiate (place, date, location, etc), for Manny to take the test and thats it. The ENTIRE pinoy community is going to watch the fight if it happens, their money is LONG, fuck some investors.
No investors. Thats an excuse.
No investors. Thats an excuse.
Did you Manny fans know that Holyfield was asked by Tyson to take extra blood tests before there 2nd fight and Holyfield agreed. Holyfield had no problem with extra testing. Just wanted to let you guys know that extra testing in boxing has been asked for before. That's another excuse put to rest.
From the book "The Holyfield's Way"
"There was a prior hint of this defeatist attitude a few weeks earlier when Marc Ratner, the executive director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, called to tell me that Tyson would not fight Evander, unless he took a steroid test. This did not bother me at all, because I knew with certainty from many talks with Evander on this topic, that he had never used steroids. Evander told me some people urged him to use steroids, especially when moving up to the heavyweight division. Evander always refused for one reason: he would never have known whether he could have done it without the steroids. I wasn't worried about the test, and I knew a refusal would be taken as evidence of guilt. On the other hand, Tyson had no propable cause to request such a test and absolutely no right to require one as a condition for the fight going forward. I discussed this with Evander, who came up with a brillant solution. He said that he would take the test provided that the results would not be revealed to Tyson, until after the fight"
Holyfield-"I laughed when Tyson was demanding that I take a steroid test. I saw Tyson's look when he saw me with my shirt off at the weigh- in for the last fight. He couldn't believe how big and muscular I had become from how hard I trained. I knew he must have convinced himself that I had won the fight cheating somehow, because he couldn't face the fact that I was just stronger than him. I was happy to take a steroid test, because I have never used steroids in my life, but I didn't want Tyson to have comfort of knowing that I was not using steroids. I wanted Tyson to continue to think that I had an unfair advantage over him so he would give himself an excuse for losing again."
From the book "The Holyfield's Way"
"There was a prior hint of this defeatist attitude a few weeks earlier when Marc Ratner, the executive director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, called to tell me that Tyson would not fight Evander, unless he took a steroid test. This did not bother me at all, because I knew with certainty from many talks with Evander on this topic, that he had never used steroids. Evander told me some people urged him to use steroids, especially when moving up to the heavyweight division. Evander always refused for one reason: he would never have known whether he could have done it without the steroids. I wasn't worried about the test, and I knew a refusal would be taken as evidence of guilt. On the other hand, Tyson had no propable cause to request such a test and absolutely no right to require one as a condition for the fight going forward. I discussed this with Evander, who came up with a brillant solution. He said that he would take the test provided that the results would not be revealed to Tyson, until after the fight"
Holyfield-"I laughed when Tyson was demanding that I take a steroid test. I saw Tyson's look when he saw me with my shirt off at the weigh- in for the last fight. He couldn't believe how big and muscular I had become from how hard I trained. I knew he must have convinced himself that I had won the fight cheating somehow, because he couldn't face the fact that I was just stronger than him. I was happy to take a steroid test, because I have never used steroids in my life, but I didn't want Tyson to have comfort of knowing that I was not using steroids. I wanted Tyson to continue to think that I had an unfair advantage over him so he would give himself an excuse for losing again."
Lol, that steroid test was a non issue to Holyfield. If you want the fight bad enough you'd take the test. And this was after Holyfield had already beaten Tyson. Holyfield could have declined since he won the first fight anyway.
"Evander told me some people urged him to use steroids, especially when moving up to the heavyweight division. Evander always refused for one reason: he would never have known whether he could have done it without the steroids. I wasn't worried about the test, and I knew a refusal would be taken as evidence of guilt. On the other hand, Tyson had no propable cause to request such a test and absolutely no right to require one as a condition for the fight going forward."
"Evander told me some people urged him to use steroids, especially when moving up to the heavyweight division. Evander always refused for one reason: he would never have known whether he could have done it without the steroids. I wasn't worried about the test, and I knew a refusal would be taken as evidence of guilt. On the other hand, Tyson had no propable cause to request such a test and absolutely no right to require one as a condition for the fight going forward."