Mayweather To Return May 5th Wants Pacquiao!! STEP UP MANNY!!
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Answer me one question Manny fans. Since the Marquez 3 fight has Manny's boss Bob Arum talked to anyone from team Mayweather or GBP to negotiate the Mayweather vs Manny fight?? Lol. Answer that question and you will know why the fight is not happening. Dumb ass Manny fans I tell you. FYI, didn't Manny say a month that he would take a smaller cut of the revenue to make the fight? Lol I guess that wasn't true when Mayweather called him on it. Manny fans and there double standards again I see. But its Mayweather fault that Mannys boss Arum won't answer the phone to negotiate
manny can say whatever he wants there is no way top rank would take a smaller cut, that much is obvious and floyd knows that. Again 50/50 was agreed upon as long as the OST's were done and floyd took that away too. He dictated the date, the venue, OST's and in the end he wanted a huge % of the money too, and that's just too much.
Again, pac is to blame to he should have stepped up and demanded arum do this and that but he didn't, he just sat back.
It's funny how you continue to point the finger at pac when we're all saying pac is to blame too, not just floyd.
Again, pac is to blame to he should have stepped up and demanded arum do this and that but he didn't, he just sat back.
It's funny how you continue to point the finger at pac when we're all saying pac is to blame too, not just floyd.
This is from The Ring magazine. 55/45 split was offered to Floyd, winner takes 55%. If true, smh @ floyd.
Koncz "We Offered Floyd 55-45 split, 55 went to the Winner"
Floyd Mayweather Jr. and the advisor of Manny Pacquiao, Michael Koncz, have been negotiating privately for more than a month, to the point where Koncz visited Mayweather in the fighter's Las Vegas-based gym in late November, and Mayweather called Koncz's cell phone for a one-on-one telephone conversation with Pacquiao earlier this month.
Until Pacquiao informed a Philippines-based media outlet of his personal talk with WBO welterweight beltholder Mayweather earlier this month, Koncz told ******.com that he and Mayweather had agreed to keep their personal information and discussions out of the media.
But in the wake of Wednesday's selection of WBA junior middleweight beltholder Miguel Cotto as his next opponent in a clash to be contested on May 5 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Mayweather broke his silence and offered his version of their private talks in a report by Kevin Iole of Yahoo!Sports.
"I presented Pacquiao with the fight, and all I got to say is, Pacquiao’s blowing a bunch of smoke up everyone’s a--. He don’t really want to fight. I gave him a chance to step up to the plate. We’re talking about a $10 million fighter who I tried to give $40 million to. We didn’t even talk about the back end," said Mayweather.
"Everything everybody is hearing is just a bunch of lies. I’ve got the proof. The proof is in the pudding and I’ve got the proof from all my meetings with Michael Koncz. Floyd Mayweather has proof. When it’s all said and done, like I said before, I’m honest and a stand-up type guy."
Mayweather even directed this zinger at "The Pac Man" from his Facebook page: "I'm fighting Miguel Cotto on May 5th because Miss Pac Man is ducking me."
On Wednesday, Koncz offered an exclusive retort to ******.com.
"Contrary to Floyd Mayweather's comments, Manny never ducked this fight, and I've beeen working on this fight for a substantial amount of time directly with Floyd," said Koncz.
"Also, contrary to information given to Floyd by people around him, Manny is substantially more than a $10 million fighter, and the records will prove that."
Koncz disagreed with a number of points delivered by Mayweather concerning the discussions regarding Pacquiao, who still is deciding whether or not to face WBO junior welterweight beltholder Tim Bradley, IBF/WBA junior welterweight titleholder Lamont Peterson or RING lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez on June 9 at the MGM Grad in Las Vegas.
"Despite my assurances that I would not speak to the media, Floyd has made a statement to the press regarding Manny and criticizing Manny, and so I am compelled to make my own statements regarding my discussions with Floyd. And Floyd is correct in the assertion that he offered Manny $40 million," said Koncz.
"But there was no discussion of the backend. However, our counter offer to Floyd Mayweather was a $50 million guarantee, plus the overage on the pay per view would be split 45 percent to 55 percent, with the winner getting 55 percent."
Negotions between Mayweather and Pacquiao have twice failed over the issue of random drug testing of blood and urine, but Koncz said that he offered to clear that up as well.
"When I made that offer, we also agreed to the blood and urine testing, and we agreed for it to be conducted at all times and at any and on all days that Floyd requested, except on the day of the fight," said Koncz.
"But I wish Floyd luck on his fight with Cotto, and he has my number. The lines are always open to discuss with Manny and me, the possibility of fighting in November under fair and reasonable terms."
Koncz "We Offered Floyd 55-45 split, 55 went to the Winner"
Floyd Mayweather Jr. and the advisor of Manny Pacquiao, Michael Koncz, have been negotiating privately for more than a month, to the point where Koncz visited Mayweather in the fighter's Las Vegas-based gym in late November, and Mayweather called Koncz's cell phone for a one-on-one telephone conversation with Pacquiao earlier this month.
Until Pacquiao informed a Philippines-based media outlet of his personal talk with WBO welterweight beltholder Mayweather earlier this month, Koncz told ******.com that he and Mayweather had agreed to keep their personal information and discussions out of the media.
But in the wake of Wednesday's selection of WBA junior middleweight beltholder Miguel Cotto as his next opponent in a clash to be contested on May 5 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Mayweather broke his silence and offered his version of their private talks in a report by Kevin Iole of Yahoo!Sports.
"I presented Pacquiao with the fight, and all I got to say is, Pacquiao’s blowing a bunch of smoke up everyone’s a--. He don’t really want to fight. I gave him a chance to step up to the plate. We’re talking about a $10 million fighter who I tried to give $40 million to. We didn’t even talk about the back end," said Mayweather.
"Everything everybody is hearing is just a bunch of lies. I’ve got the proof. The proof is in the pudding and I’ve got the proof from all my meetings with Michael Koncz. Floyd Mayweather has proof. When it’s all said and done, like I said before, I’m honest and a stand-up type guy."
Mayweather even directed this zinger at "The Pac Man" from his Facebook page: "I'm fighting Miguel Cotto on May 5th because Miss Pac Man is ducking me."
On Wednesday, Koncz offered an exclusive retort to ******.com.
"Contrary to Floyd Mayweather's comments, Manny never ducked this fight, and I've beeen working on this fight for a substantial amount of time directly with Floyd," said Koncz.
"Also, contrary to information given to Floyd by people around him, Manny is substantially more than a $10 million fighter, and the records will prove that."
Koncz disagreed with a number of points delivered by Mayweather concerning the discussions regarding Pacquiao, who still is deciding whether or not to face WBO junior welterweight beltholder Tim Bradley, IBF/WBA junior welterweight titleholder Lamont Peterson or RING lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez on June 9 at the MGM Grad in Las Vegas.
"Despite my assurances that I would not speak to the media, Floyd has made a statement to the press regarding Manny and criticizing Manny, and so I am compelled to make my own statements regarding my discussions with Floyd. And Floyd is correct in the assertion that he offered Manny $40 million," said Koncz.
"But there was no discussion of the backend. However, our counter offer to Floyd Mayweather was a $50 million guarantee, plus the overage on the pay per view would be split 45 percent to 55 percent, with the winner getting 55 percent."
Negotions between Mayweather and Pacquiao have twice failed over the issue of random drug testing of blood and urine, but Koncz said that he offered to clear that up as well.
"When I made that offer, we also agreed to the blood and urine testing, and we agreed for it to be conducted at all times and at any and on all days that Floyd requested, except on the day of the fight," said Koncz.
"But I wish Floyd luck on his fight with Cotto, and he has my number. The lines are always open to discuss with Manny and me, the possibility of fighting in November under fair and reasonable terms."
^^Mayweather offered Duckman $40 million plus PPV split and Duckman ran away. Top Rank in damage control again. I thought last week the offer was for a $45 million flat fee to Mayweather get your excuses right. lol
Mayweather Discusses Cotto Fight, Shreds Pacquiao, More
By Rick Reeno
Grant Sawyer State Building, Las Vegas - As BoxingScene.com had previously reported, WBC welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather Jr. (42-0, 26KOs) officially announced his next opponent, WBA junior middleweight king Miguel Cotto (37-2, 30KOs). The fight takes place on May 5th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Mayweather revealed his opponent during a hearing before the Nevada State Athletic Commission. The state commission granted Mayweather's request to obtain a license to box on the scheduled May date.
Following his announcement, Mayweather discussed his feelings on the upcoming fight with Cotto, the fallout for a proposed mega-fight with Manny Pacquiao - and more.
BoxingScene.com: Thoughts on facing Miguel Cotto at 154.
Mayweather: I think Miguel Cotto is a hell of a fighter, a strong solid 154-pounder. Pacquiao was trying to fight him at 147. I would never want to put a fighter in a position where he's not comfortable. I want a guy when he's at his best. If he's at his best at 154 and he's strong and he's solid, then that's the fight we're fighting at. I walk around at 150, but the end of the day - skills pays the bills.
[Oscar] De La Hoya - Pacquiao fights him at a catch-weight. Cotto - he fights him at a catch-weight. When I fought De La Hoya, I said 'give him to me at 154.' With Cotto – ‘give him to me at 154.’ Give me the guys where they are comfortable at their weight so there are no excuses.
BoxingScene.com: What are your thoughts on Miguel Cotto as a fighter.
Mayweather: He's solid. Every time he goes out he puts on a hell of a performance. He's strong. He can punch good with the left and he can punch with the right. This is what the fans want to see, blood sweat and tears. I tried to give the fans blood, sweat and tears with Manny Pacquiao, but he didn't want the fight from the beginning. This guy is ducking and dodging. This guy got famous from basically piggy-backing off my name. When you mention Floyd Mayweather's name, you mention an all-time great in the sport of boxing. When you mention Pacquiao, you say 'that's the guy who is trying to fight Floyd Mayweather. '
BoxingScene.com: Are you upset with Manny Pacquiao not being the opponent for May 5th?
Mayweather: I presented Pacquiao with the fight. Pacquiao is blowing a lot of smoke up everybody's ass. He doesn’t really want to fight. I tried to get him to step up to the plate. We're talking about a $10 million dollar fighter that I tried to give $40 million dollars to, and we didn't even talk about the backend. Everything that everybody is hearing is a bunch of lies. I got proof. The proof is in the pudding. I got proof from all of my meetings with [Pacquiao’s adviser] Michael Koncz.
BoxingScene.com: What can we expect against Cotto?
Mayweather: You guys don’t have to worry about me backpedaling. I'm going to stand there and box, toe to toe, use my defense and do what I do best - get the victory.
BoxingScene.com: Thoughts on Cotto's last performance against Antonio Margarito?
Mayweather: I thought he did what he had to do. He executed a game plan. As far as the first fight, Miguel Cotto got beat by a guy who was cheating, a guy who they said I was scared of, a guy who was cheating. And then he fought Pacquiao and drained himself to fight him at a catch-weight.
BoxingScene.com: When you and Cotto were both at Top Rank, you wanted this fight back then. You said Top Rank wouldn't give you that fight. Was Cotto's decision to become a free agent the reason this fight is taking place?
Mayweather: I think Miguel Cotto, of course with him leaving Top Rank - he's going to make more money than he's ever made in his career. And that's what Floyd Mayweather brings to the table. Even with Manny Pacquiao, he was going to make more money than he's ever made in his career. If you look at the list, it goes on and one...De La Hoya, Hatton. Like I said before, out with the old and in with the new - Mayweather Promotions and Golden Boy Promotions.
Mayweather Discusses Cotto Fight, Shreds Pacquiao, More
By Rick Reeno
Grant Sawyer State Building, Las Vegas - As BoxingScene.com had previously reported, WBC welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather Jr. (42-0, 26KOs) officially announced his next opponent, WBA junior middleweight king Miguel Cotto (37-2, 30KOs). The fight takes place on May 5th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Mayweather revealed his opponent during a hearing before the Nevada State Athletic Commission. The state commission granted Mayweather's request to obtain a license to box on the scheduled May date.
Following his announcement, Mayweather discussed his feelings on the upcoming fight with Cotto, the fallout for a proposed mega-fight with Manny Pacquiao - and more.
BoxingScene.com: Thoughts on facing Miguel Cotto at 154.
Mayweather: I think Miguel Cotto is a hell of a fighter, a strong solid 154-pounder. Pacquiao was trying to fight him at 147. I would never want to put a fighter in a position where he's not comfortable. I want a guy when he's at his best. If he's at his best at 154 and he's strong and he's solid, then that's the fight we're fighting at. I walk around at 150, but the end of the day - skills pays the bills.
[Oscar] De La Hoya - Pacquiao fights him at a catch-weight. Cotto - he fights him at a catch-weight. When I fought De La Hoya, I said 'give him to me at 154.' With Cotto – ‘give him to me at 154.’ Give me the guys where they are comfortable at their weight so there are no excuses.
BoxingScene.com: What are your thoughts on Miguel Cotto as a fighter.
Mayweather: He's solid. Every time he goes out he puts on a hell of a performance. He's strong. He can punch good with the left and he can punch with the right. This is what the fans want to see, blood sweat and tears. I tried to give the fans blood, sweat and tears with Manny Pacquiao, but he didn't want the fight from the beginning. This guy is ducking and dodging. This guy got famous from basically piggy-backing off my name. When you mention Floyd Mayweather's name, you mention an all-time great in the sport of boxing. When you mention Pacquiao, you say 'that's the guy who is trying to fight Floyd Mayweather. '
BoxingScene.com: Are you upset with Manny Pacquiao not being the opponent for May 5th?
Mayweather: I presented Pacquiao with the fight. Pacquiao is blowing a lot of smoke up everybody's ass. He doesn’t really want to fight. I tried to get him to step up to the plate. We're talking about a $10 million dollar fighter that I tried to give $40 million dollars to, and we didn't even talk about the backend. Everything that everybody is hearing is a bunch of lies. I got proof. The proof is in the pudding. I got proof from all of my meetings with [Pacquiao’s adviser] Michael Koncz.
BoxingScene.com: What can we expect against Cotto?
Mayweather: You guys don’t have to worry about me backpedaling. I'm going to stand there and box, toe to toe, use my defense and do what I do best - get the victory.
BoxingScene.com: Thoughts on Cotto's last performance against Antonio Margarito?
Mayweather: I thought he did what he had to do. He executed a game plan. As far as the first fight, Miguel Cotto got beat by a guy who was cheating, a guy who they said I was scared of, a guy who was cheating. And then he fought Pacquiao and drained himself to fight him at a catch-weight.
BoxingScene.com: When you and Cotto were both at Top Rank, you wanted this fight back then. You said Top Rank wouldn't give you that fight. Was Cotto's decision to become a free agent the reason this fight is taking place?
Mayweather: I think Miguel Cotto, of course with him leaving Top Rank - he's going to make more money than he's ever made in his career. And that's what Floyd Mayweather brings to the table. Even with Manny Pacquiao, he was going to make more money than he's ever made in his career. If you look at the list, it goes on and one...De La Hoya, Hatton. Like I said before, out with the old and in with the new - Mayweather Promotions and Golden Boy Promotions.
they are the two biggest stars in boxing. Pac's last PPV did what? 1.4 million? Floyd's did what? 1.3 million? It's even really. But even if floyd is a little bit more of a draw, the point is they are the two biggest stars and two best fighters in the world. That alone is why 50/50 is fair. Only them two together can break the PPV record. Not floyd vs someone else or Pac vs someone else. Only them together.
Why do you think Wlad Klitschko vs David Haye was a 50/50 split? Klitschko was champ forever and david haye didn't really do shit at heavyweight. But everyone knew if they fought it would do massive numbers, which it did and that's why it was a 50/50 split. It didn't matter that klitschko accomplished more or was the undisputed champ for many years, it was about how big of stars they both were.
Why do you think Wlad Klitschko vs David Haye was a 50/50 split? Klitschko was champ forever and david haye didn't really do shit at heavyweight. But everyone knew if they fought it would do massive numbers, which it did and that's why it was a 50/50 split. It didn't matter that klitschko accomplished more or was the undisputed champ for many years, it was about how big of stars they both were.
man, you're just hurting yourself. Both were boxing stars for years but BOTH became crossover stars only after they fought Oscar de la hoya. Look at Floyd's PPV numbers prior to Oscar and look at Pacquiao's prior to Oscar. Neither guy was doing close to 1 million PPV buys until after they fought Oscar. That's a fact. Oscar turned them into stars, just like everyone else he fought (Vargas, Hopkins, Trinidad, Mosley, etc.).
Do you not understand what I'm saying or what? Can floyd break the PPV record with anyone else not named Pacquiao? It takes them both to generate this kind of crazy money.
Why? Klitschko and David Haye bring in MASSIVE amounts of money in England, Germany and Europe in general. Just cuz they're not stars here means little. Every time Klitschko fights he sells out 40,000+ arenas. No one in america has done that in recent years besides Pacquiao.
Do you not understand what I'm saying or what? Can floyd break the PPV record with anyone else not named Pacquiao? It takes them both to generate this kind of crazy money.
Why? Klitschko and David Haye bring in MASSIVE amounts of money in England, Germany and Europe in general. Just cuz they're not stars here means little. Every time Klitschko fights he sells out 40,000+ arenas. No one in america has done that in recent years besides Pacquiao.
I still want to see it. I want the bullshit to be over, and I want there to be a winner. Mayweather is a dickhead, and talks shit but will only fight on his terms? Thats a cop out if you ask me. I say make their publicists force them to appear in the same place and have a fight thats not in the ring.
I want to see mayweather lose, and I think pacqiao can do it, but i cant say the same for cotto.
I want to see mayweather lose, and I think pacqiao can do it, but i cant say the same for cotto.