Is E Dawg Racist

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i wasnt tryin to be 100% right, after all, i was just immitating u tadou.....and how can i beat u down for not being white like "me".....when im not 100% white motherfucker!!!! im suprised u werent payin attention
 
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mo-x said:
no, i'm going to beat your ass because of your sarcastic attitude, because you've managed to piss everybody off and you've burned damn near every bridge there is to burn in the NW scene and above all else you attacked me on this website, so I'm going to attack you physically and show you that you can't hide behind a computer screen. i hope for your sake you don't show up to glitta because I WILL be there kickin it with kutkrome and if I see you I will not hesitate... unless of course you're going to hang around police/security all night... in which case I'll catch you on the way out.
Ill just put it like this...if you fuck up glitta for ME...then i will, GURANTEED, find a way to fuck-over your career a few years down the road from now.

Basically...Dont fuck this up for someone more serious about his career than you are about your own.
 
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@SH..

I think we, with the help of a few others, pretty much murdered and pillaged this whole thread...it was nice philosophizin with ya..maybe some day we'll be on opposing sides :cheeky:

DeluzioN said:
i wasnt tryin to be 100% right, after all, i was just immitating u tadou.....and how can i beat u down for not being white like "me".....when im not 100% white motherfucker!!!! im suprised u werent payin attention
that wasnt directed at you...
 
Sergeant Hustle said:
i appreciate the fact that you have remained respectful toward me in this argument, whereas others have struck low blows. you should stick to this philosophy in dealing with tadou. threatening him physically makes you look like he's really getting under your skin, and he prolly is. it makes you look simple if you strike back with physical threats instead of educated words.
everybody who knows me knows that I'm not the type of guy to flash on someone, I feel as though we as a people (the human race) should be spreading love and not hate... as corny as that sounds, it stems from my religious beliefs. but at the same time, if a person gets under my skin to the point where I lose control, i've done just that... lost control, and when I lose control it's not a good thing. I guess i need anger management or a girlfriend or something, LOL. but Tadou has no doubt gotten under my skin with all his name calling, and he thinks it's funny.. otherwise he wouldn't be sarcastic in his tone. this guy hides behind his computer screen and there's alot more people than JUST ME who wants to flash on his ass... i'm not naming names, but there's kinda an unofficial race to see who slaps him silly first. and he's on quite a few "it's on, on SIGHT" lists because he's had the nerve to talk so much shit on this board. i'm not surprised he didn't catch a beat down outside neema's show when he was trying to get in... folks aren't going to hunt him down, but if it's convienent they're going to do something about it. i hope he doesn't show up to glitta because at this point he's under my skin enough that I do wanna flash on him... and he's lucky that i'm a nice guy in general because I forgive easily. in fact, just reading your words has calmed me down to the point where I almost don't even care anymore. tadou don't know me, but everyone who has met me in real life from this board knows that he doesn't stand a chance... and i'm stupid enough to goto jail for the night or weekend (depending on the day) because I don't think things through when I'm angry... i'ma try and calm the fuck down though, because I realize this IS only the internet now that I'm thinking about it and for him to get so much under my skin is ridiculous... but at the same time, he is just a boat ride away so it's different on your mind. when you beef with someone from new york you gotta be pretty fucked up to fly out there and beat them down... but when the dood is local you think nasty thoughts...
 
tadou said:
Ill just put it like this...if you fuck up glitta for ME...then i will, GURANTEED, find a way to fuck-over your career a few years down the road from now.

Basically...Dont fuck this up for someone more serious about his career than you are about your own.
you know what man, it don't even matter no more... i'ma let you disrespecting me over the internet slide, and you will see me at Glitta this year, because i'm the big dood in the room and you can't fuckin' miss me... we ain't swingin fists and I ain't fuckin' up nothing for you... but if you ever disrespect me in real life, i will lose it. I used to be neutral about you and I still have hope that in real life you're not so condescending/annoying/etc as you are on this board... i'm sure we could get along just fine and tip a few back... so i'ma just calm the fuck down for now. internet beefing is gay, i recognize that... but don't take my willingness to forgive as a weakness. we cool, no beef... you respect me and I'll respect you.
 

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mo-x said:
Everyone knows that whites in this country were the priviledged race back in the day... but I as a white person don't feel priviledged in any way. I was not hired at my job because I was white. I was not given a credit card becuase I was white, in fact I had to work my ass off to get one that was unsecured. I've been punked by the police before... and growing up, I lived on 88th & Fremont and went to Daniel Bagley grade school. If you know this area, in the 80's the area had a black population of about 60%... I used to get my ass beat by black kids ALL THE FUCKIN' TIME and it WAS because of the color of my skin. I think all races go through racism... it's just a fact of life. But the attitude of forgive, don't forget doesn't work in my opinion. Racism is a product of stereotypes. Remove the stereotypes and racism statistics would drop a shit load. What people really need to do is NOT teach their kids stereotypes.
Back in the days? Whites are still priviledged. Just not as much as before. How do you know that you weren't hired on your job because of your skin? Washington stopped affirmative action a couple of years ago for jobs and college tuitions.
Punked by the police once or twice isn't being profiled. Try being arrested at a concert your performing at because someone was shooting. You don't fit the description other than your color. You have over 30 witnesses to your where abouts, but you go to jail. Yeah, that actually happened to me last year! I've been beat by the police more than once or twice and pulled over, for no reason at all, more times than I can count. You don't have police telling you how they know you gonna end up dead or in the penn.
Furthermore, why are you going out your way so bad to justify you in your debate? If you're debating for someone else's point of view, why do you always come back to you?
I'm not trying to be on your case but you have made some fucced up statements in your debate. If you said a statement and used the word "blacks" you were making a racist statement. "So if any BLACKS don't like it here..." That was directed to blacks unjustly! Shit you talking about moving, your ancestor didn't derive from this soil. You don't like what I have to say or how I feel about this issue, you move.
It's easy for someone to say move when they don't realize that their ancestors have destroyed almost every part of African Culture.
 

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DeluzioN said:
i dont give a fuck what the war was about or what abe lincoln supposedly said in those qoutes u posted ...fact is, if it wasnt for that war, black people still might be in slavery. and i agree, the skin color of the first humans was most likely of a darker shade. dont mean blacker is better or worse. but u people who keep preachin this black people cant be racist need to get off the pony cuz u beat it to death.... all i hear is "not enough $ to be racist, blah blah"...so only folks livin good can be racist? how bout a poor ass white person...since theyre so damn poor, that means them hating another race cant be considered racism right??? and youre damn right the Moores story is true. and the "already had black genes" is a sorry ass excuse. its still an act of dominance of one race over another. yall act like white skinned people are a disease....seriosuly. i think everybody needs to step back and look at the BIGGER picture.....where u try9in to be at in 5 years???....10???? make it happen....this goes for EVERY MOTHERFUCKER
Yall remarks tell how you truely feel or at least it proves how racism still exists and you don't even know you're taking part in it. Listen to what yall are saying:
"if it wasn't for a war, blacks would still be slaves." So is this how you truely look at blacks. We should still be slaves?
Speaking about hand outs, blacker isn't better, which white men supposedly died to help blacks (which by the way really didn't help your presentation), and moving out of America after we played a major part in building what is now known as America (And I'm not taking anything away from any race). Your statement's are racist.
#1. Noone said black is better. Your fucced up racist view (whether you realize it or not)!
#2. Blacks are the original man. There is scientific proof. Two white people can't make a black baby but two blacks can make a white baby (heard of albinos). Black is full of color, white is the lack thereof. Read your bible, Abraham had coarse, curly hair, dark skin, etc. The oldest discovered body is that of a black woman which they have labeled EVE. And Jews aren't a color, they are a certain type of people who believe in Jewish beliefs.
#3. I already admitted the story about the Moores were true. But I didn't make an excuse for it. Facts are facts. I'm just pointing out errors in yall's racist statements. And Italians were always dark skinned buddy!
#4. No one has called you out of your name or even tried to slip derogatory words at you or your people. Cut the crap! Yall mad because E-Dawg said he doesn't like the color of the palm of his hand. After that, someone started crying about how right he wasn't. Next thing I know this became a black bashing session. I'm just defending my people with accurate facts. Don't get mad if you can't justify what you say and mean.

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DeluzioN said:
^^^^all of that = since im a half black kid from aberdeen washington who has been forced to live in such a "slum" of a logging town, i feel like im more "in touch" with my african ancestory and nowadays black culture, because it seems to be the cool thing to do...u know, point the finger at whitey....not to mention i hate my white half so much that any white people trying to stick up for THEMSELVES and thier SKIN COLOR (not government), will get ridiculed and criticized to the fullest extent of my power, and i promise i will twist thier words around as much as i can and fit in as many smart ass comments i can into this 10,000 character limited post as i possibly can. i realize white people are not the problem, but seein as how the majority of this countries population and government is that skin color, im gonna blame them for the problems in this society. its not like any white person has had a hard life before, only colored people...right?? so fuck white people, they are wack, they are the reason i cant excell to where i want....or maybe its the fact im beating the shit out of a dead horse so much that i dont realize life for what it is?

since when did computers and the internet go hand in hand with poverty and ghetto livin? they must be holdin u down like a muhfucka, i mean yall barely got enuff cheese to pay your AOL bill!!!!:eek:
No need to tell you what you already know but I will anyway. YOU ARE A CERTIFIED RACIST. If nothing else, be true to yourself and admit what you won't say.
All this other stupid shit? You like to type huh? If you're half black that means you hate yourself too. I see why you call yourself Deluzional
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mo-x said:
yeah and while yer answering his questions explain to me how lincoln was half black too.... AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I was clowning. It was sarcasm. Yall blurting out stupid shit, why can't I. Plus, he got treated like a black in several ways. He was murdered. His coin the penny is at the bottom of the totem pole for worth. And all the other coins which have presidents who were pro-white turned their backs on him. (Some of that, since you love them ABE, we'll treat you like them)

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MR.VILLAIN said:
Now D.O.G.........i know to you it might sound like i'm putting down blacks...i'm not i'm just saying that alot of blacks use the ''white man'' as an excuse for everything..dont try to go around it and say that aint true
Why would I say it's not true? PEOPLE in general make excuses to be lazy. I'm talking about you being 1/2 mexican and 1/2 white but jumping in the conversation talking about how tired you are of what this black done and that black done. That's labeling.
I've mentioned incidents of the past. Not trying to prove someone owes me or that I'm better. My point is that no one should be crying over something so small as that E-Dawg bar. Especially someone who doesn't endure Racism at an extreme level.

Mr. D.o.G,you feel the same way about being black as feel about being chicano...you think blacks got it worse,i think mexicans got it worse..i agree with the majority of the things you said...but blacks have plenty power to BUILD on,even if they arent as rich as whites........basketball+football+heavyweight boxing+rap+r&b=MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!AND A SHITLOAD OF IT!!!!!! I feel I'm doing my part in stopping racism,when i have my children,they'll be mexican,black,white........AMERICAN.I wish that this shit didnt exist,but it does.[/B]
I KNOW BLACKS got it worst. Point blank. But I'm not on here looking for simpathy for my people. I'm here to defend my people against all this black bashing!
It's funny how only the NON-BLACKS have made very ignorant statements in this whole debate. Examples, defending blacks because of sexual preference, why don't you leave if you don't like it, presidents died for blacks, if it wasn't for the civil war blacks would still be slaves, etc. Even your statement about sports, and music is FUCCED up!
How can you change racism if you keep making racist statements? Getting a black woman pregnant doesn't allow you to constantly slander blacks. You see, no one has slandered Mexicans and you the only mexican talking. Yet blacks have been called lazy and everything else on this thread.
RACISM THAT YALL DON'T SEE:
Have you noticed that anything that blacks become successful in, there are new laws to govern and change operations?
PIMPIN- White men have legal RANCHES which also shoot internet porn BUT the average street pimp is getting broke off for pimpin and panderin!
MUSIC- From the beginning of rap, they said it would only last for a few years. Then they tried to ban rap for it's lyrical content (even though rock contains just as much profanity and violence).
SPORTS- They wouldn't care about kids coming directly from high school except 90% that come to the NBA that way are black. Also why do you think they try to pay kids? They don't care about that kid's future. Just as long as he comes and performs for them as long as they need him. When they done with him, they'll reveal that they paid him. Fucc his career!
 
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off topic...my bad

Originally posted by mo-x you know what man, it don't even matter no more... i'ma let you disrespecting me over the internet slide, and you will see me at Glitta this year, because i'm the big dood in the room and you can't fuckin' miss me... we ain't swingin fists and I ain't fuckin' up nothing for you... but if you ever disrespect me in real life, i will lose it. I used to be neutral about you and I still have hope that in real life you're not so condescending/annoying/etc as you are on this board... i'm sure we could get along just fine and tip a few back... so i'ma just calm the fuck down for now. internet beefing is gay, i recognize that... but don't take my willingness to forgive as a weakness. we cool, no beef... you respect me and I'll respect you.
This is my aim, right here--everything is hip-hop. If i see a restaurant, its a hip-hop restaurant. If i hear a Al Green song, i hear a emcee in the background. If i drink a soda, it got RZA on the side of it, nah mean? Thats college right there...some people dream about gettin a brand new car, or their first house...i dream about gettin a Master's in Business Admistration, opening a financial enterprise, and making the big $$$. I give a fuck about showing off or being on tv every other day, i just wanna--BD puts it best--havethangs! My game plan is like..every Rolex could be an investment in a blue-chip stock. Every house could be an apartment building. Every rolls royce could be a McDonalds...and if you aint feelin me yet, i dont know what else i can even say...

if you talked to me, aside from siccness, the FIRST THING you'd notice is that im humble, BUT i will NOT back down from philosophical confrontations (which sounded 1000x cornier than what you said! :confused:) I get to know people, as you can see, but if you didnt realize, im in somebody's head LONG BEFORE i even THINK about pissing them off, which is a GIFT and a CURSE; YET, the only time i allow piss them off (for my own enjoyment :angry: ) is when they show contempt. If they dont know what contempt means, then they'll get angry at me for saying "big words" and acting like a showoff. Its a no-win situation...

When i see you, im gonna be the same 10 minute freestylin cat you talked to before. Come at me like that! Thats what tip ima be on...ready to lay down my proverbial 'lyrical 2 cents' and kick it for the whole night after that. Ill probably press up a 50 copies of the FourPlay LP, and hand em out, and thats out of my OWN pocket. Thats me. What you readin in this thread is me being a politician...unless you're running for president, and i see you on a podium next to me...you aint gonna hear NOTHIN like this!

Im trouble if you messin with me...but if not, im the one you wanna fuck with...get it?
 
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Sergeant Hustle said:






besides the comment about who i fuck, this has got to be your weakest and most ignorant comment. how about saying doctor+lawyer+scientist+computer analyst=MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!? because all you think blacks can do is play basketball and rap? you are more far gone than i thought. and your girl is black? does she know that all you think she can be is the next lil' kim or wnba star? LMAO.
Now you got me twisted,i'm not saying that is ALL black people can do,but alot of blacks play sports and are pretty fuckin' good at it,and everyone knows alot of black people can SING and RAP.....ididnt say thats all that blacks can do,i'm sayin' that is money that blacks are getting......your real ignorant to even say that shit....shut your sorry ass up,i cant have a debate with you because you try to call me racist on everything i say.....and yeah i think you are a college certified idiot..you assume that everything i say is my conclusion on black people,and I think you know what assuming makes you look like?.I am saying that black people get rich in sports(dont lie to yourself now)......and i sure have seen quite a few black doctors,so quit tryin' to switch my words around ya dumb ass wannabe farrahkahn.
 
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@Mr.D.O.G

I'm not black bashing,see you get all defensive right away,but if i WAS black and saying some of the shit i said,would be as offended.I hear plenty of black people who agree with alot of what i think.I never said black people cant do whatever they want like how some of ya'll are trying to say....If you read what i said then you would know i wasnt trying to say that sports and music is the only thing...but it is SOMETHING,right?Dont try to point me out as a racist because it's bullshit.......i NEVER said anything racist..not a fuckin' thing.....i said GOOD things.....every race got people that make excuses and are lazy,your right.i wouldnt even attempt to argue with that,but i am speaking on experience on my part,i'm not trying to bash,degrade or anything else to black people...i love black people,i got black friends,white friends,asian friends,whatever race,you name it....i know good and bad from both........I believe that minorities got it harder than whites at this point in time..but we have more of a chance to do things now than ever......c'mon D.O.G....you got a record company,and you have been givin awards for this..doesnt that speak on something...wasnt it givin' to you by the mayor of tacoma or sumn?I look up to people like you in that you struggled and you've made it pretty far& your a MINORITY,which makes me feel like I can do it too.If being supportive of blacks and latinos makes me racist,i guess i would have to be that then,huh?Everything i said got twisted by old SH.....Mrs. if you dont believe in what i believe than your a racist here.........I'm not racist,point fuckin' blank
 
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Hilltop Hound said:

Why would I say it's not true? PEOPLE in general make excuses to be lazy. I'm talking about you being 1/2 mexican and 1/2 white but jumping in the conversation talking about how tired you are of what this black done and that black done. That's labeling.
I've mentioned incidents of the past. Not trying to prove someone owes me or that I'm better. My point is that no one should be crying over something so small as that E-Dawg bar. Especially someone who doesn't endure Racism at an extreme level.
>i'm not offended by what E-DAWG said.......naw i never said i'm tired of what any black person did..whered' that come from?

I KNOW BLACKS got it worst. Point blank. But I'm not on here looking for simpathy for my people. I'm here to defend my people against all this black bashing!
It's funny how only the NON-BLACKS have made very ignorant statements in this whole debate. Examples, defending blacks because of sexual preference, why don't you leave if you don't like it, presidents died for blacks, if it wasn't for the civil war blacks would still be slaves, etc. Even your statement about sports, and music is FUCCED up! <How is that fucked up?
How can you change racism if you keep making racist statements? Getting a black woman pregnant doesn't allow you to constantly slander blacks. You see, no one has slandered Mexicans and you the only mexican talking. Yet blacks have been called lazy and everything else on this thread.<you didnt see what i said about mexicans?
RACISM THAT YALL DON'T SEE:
Have you noticed that anything that blacks become successful in, there are new laws to govern and change operations?
PIMPIN- White men have legal RANCHES which also shoot internet porn BUT the average street pimp is getting broke off for pimpin and panderin!
MUSIC- From the beginning of rap, they said it would only last for a few years. Then they tried to ban rap for it's lyrical content (even though rock contains just as much profanity and violence).
SPORTS- They wouldn't care about kids coming directly from high school except 90% that come to the NBA that way are black. Also why do you think they try to pay kids? They don't care about that kid's future. Just as long as he comes and performs for them as long as they need him. When they done with him, they'll reveal that they paid him. Fucc his career!
I feel you on this one fully..........but you honestly are taking my comments way diffrent then how i meant them.........seriously,your getting offended even when i say GOOD things....i cant blame you for bing defensive...and if it'll make you feel better,say something about some of the things you've noticed about mexicans..i guarantee you that if you don't call me a spic or beaner or get into talkin' shit about how we dont have barb-q's because the beans fall through the grill...i won't get offended,i can have a decent convo about this shit...i would rather hear you talk about black peoples' situation then some lady that aint even black.....or some cat from aberdeen that don't know shit about the ghetto/barrio.I used to live in the Los Angeles area,homie,you see alot of racism from EVERY RACE down there.
 
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MR.VILLAIN said:
Everything i said got twisted by old SH.....Mrs. if you dont believe in what i believe than your a racist here.........I'm not racist,point fuckin' blank
i didn't twist shit around....i shot holes through all of your statements and called you out on your bullshit. perhaps if you really sat down and thought about what you were saying, you wouldn't look like such an idiot.
 
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MR.VILLAIN said:
Now you got me twisted,i'm not saying that is ALL black people can do,but alot of blacks play sports and are pretty fuckin' good at it,and everyone knows alot of black people can SING and RAP.....ididnt say thats all that blacks can do,i'm sayin' that is money that blacks are getting......your real ignorant to even say that shit....shut your sorry ass up,i cant have a debate with you because you try to call me racist on everything i say.....and yeah i think you are a college certified idiot..you assume that everything i say is my conclusion on black people,and I think you know what assuming makes you look like?.I am saying that black people get rich in sports(dont lie to yourself now)......and i sure have seen quite a few black doctors,so quit tryin' to switch my words around ya dumb ass wannabe farrahkahn.
you sound like a moron. i have not once called you a racist. i call you out on your shit though, because you talk a lot without thinking, and you sound extremely ignorant. you make some simple ass remarks that show you really have no business having a civilized discussion.
 
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uhhhhhhh........

you didnt call out nothing.Cut the bullshit and keep it real....i'm glad you didn't call me a racist because i'm not....your mad cause i don't agree with EVERYTHING you say....you think because you went to college that makes you RIGHT and you know everything.You said did my girl know that i said all blacks can do is get into the entertainment buisness....which was ASSUMING.how the fuck did you call ME out?You havent proved anything or made me feel like i said something racist.You made YOURSELF look IGNORANT with that comment.
 
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