Illegal Immigrants Demand Citizenship

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May 13, 2002
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HERESY said:
If you think the white boys in the hills aren't ready for war you are mistaken, and it isn't possible to round up 12 million mexicans thats why they are taking a different approach.
Those fools better be ready, because what side you think gangs are gonna be on? The soldiers are there and ready to go.

And what approach are they taking? I don't see any effectiveness whatsoever...
 
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Lamberto Quintero said:
You want some stats? Go to a restaurant and see who's washing the dishes, or a fast food restaurant, or go look in the fields to see who's picking the fruit. I don't need statistics, who the fuck works at EVERY single restaurant? Chinese, Japanese, Vietnames, Italian, all with Mexican workers.
^Okay, well those dishwashers, and fast food clerks are taking jobs from law abiding citizens. When they go to apply the spot is filled because they have some illegal/s working there. We don't need that shit here, it's hard enough for poor people here, our citizens are top priority, or at least should be. I don't know too many illegal Asians or Italians. And if you don't need stats, I don't either.

Let's generalize then. Go to any corner or any Bar and you're gaurenteed to see an illegal either selling crack, robbing folx, or getting punch drunk, starting fights with citizens.

Lamberto Quintero said:
What does the US/Mexican border have to do with gangs that were started in THIS country? A criminal in the US is a criminal anywhere, not everyone who is Mexican is part of a gang. There are plenty though, and it's sad.
Please, many latino gangs started in Latin America or Mexico, MS 13 and Sur 13 are affiliates, that was a dumb statement, especially in the context of L.A.. Again, not all illegals are gang members but many are, we can't read the mind with some lazer scan of every immigrant that crosses the border, that's why we have a legal process and that's why America doesn't accept international felons.

Lamberto Quintero said:
And this "special" relationship I speak of is not so obvious, because the US has gone against what they agreed on in the Treaty they signed in 1848. However, this does not negate the fact that part of the negotiations included exclusive rights for a Mexican immigrant over anyone else.
Haha, please, there is no special relationship and Europeans have broken treaties since time immemorable, but you don't see Black people marching for their 40 acres, though it is brought of from time to time, I don't think any of us expect that type of compensation. Native Americans lost the entire country due to broken treaties, man please, your naivete is embarrassing. You can't hold them to any 150 year old treaties, ha!


Lamberto Quintero said:
How are a lot of them hardened criminals? I want to know how you came to this conclusion...

"Mexico is not a breeding ground for devine people, please! If it's as poor as you portray it, it should be expected that they breed criminals"

Breeding criminals? This statement right here lost all validity you had to me. Have you ever been to Mexico?

And neither Latin America nor Mexico need anyone's pitty, but you're right about a war. LOL at trying to act all diplomatic about this shit, like "all they had to do was leave." There will be war before illegal immigrants are sent back from Mexico, and I hope everyone knows this.
1. I want to know how you came to the conclusion that none of them are criminals and that the vast majority are decent people as if Mexicans posses some type of infallible moral character?

2. You obviously misunderstood the logic so let me repeat myself.. If Mexico is as poor as you portray it then it shouldn't be surprising that they'd breed criminals.

3. War, smore, no one is scared of a few unarmed illegals, if anything in my backyard gets fucked up there's going to be guerilla war. 400 Million vs. 12 isn't good odds, any threatening the stability of this country and our home is to be dealt with accordingly..

Lamberto Quintero said:
Those fools better be ready, because what side you think gangs are gonna be on? The soldiers are there and ready to go.

And what approach are they taking? I don't see any effectiveness whatsoever...
Hahahaha! Those petty hoodlum gangs have no artillery! If they were so formidable they shouldn't have to worry about local cops throwing them behind bars and deporting them everyday, let alone the national guard and millions of fed up citizens..
 
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Lamberto Quintero said:
Not all "Mexicans" are illegal genius! Are legal citizen gang members cool then?
He didn't say anything about "Mexicans", he said "illegals".. What do Mexicans have to do with Welfare? No need to run off on a tangent to make some cheap irrelevant point.. Who are you comparing them to?

kayvee said:
my point to you was that i dont know any illegals who came here to bullshit. i know plenty who work and earn their living. if it were so fucking easy to come to the us legally there wouldnt be a "problem". if they werent so fucking poor in their home country they wouldnt see a reason to come to the "land of opportunity".

~k.
Then why not go through the process like all other poor families from other countries? Simple question?
 
Apr 25, 2002
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all the black people i know would rather sell weed than work at mcdonalds.. just like all the illegals you know are gangsters... one of my co-workers started out as illegal(citizen now).. and i was tryin' to get one of my black partners a job.. this fool would not want to work.. and this wasn't minimum wage... if they're here.. make 'em legal.. and let 'em file taxes... this isn't rocket science.. our government likes this illegal shit.. gives 'em a scapegoat anytime somethin' serious is goin' on... this is not a priority.
 
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|GOD|||ZILLA| said:
all the black people i know would rather sell weed than work at mcdonalds.. just like all the illegals you know are gangsters... one of my co-workers started out as illegal(citizen now).. and i was tryin' to get one of my black partners a job.. this fool would not want to work.. and this wasn't minimum wage... if they're here.. make 'em legal.. and let 'em file taxes... this isn't rocket science.. our government likes this illegal shit.. gives 'em a scapegoat anytime somethin' serious is goin' on... this is not a priority.
Who cares about "race", no one is pulling the race card except you.. Most black people probably know their worth and their history, they fought for more than a spot at Mickey Dees and rather die or be in jail rather than clean up piss..

Your contrast is ineffective since it doesn't take into account the different histories.. Maybe "Black" people have more pride, I don't know. I don't know a lot of blacks who'd do some of that nasty shit either, some of it is inhumane.

I do know for a fact though that "Blacks" have given way more back to this country than any illegals in history, from physical labor, to inventions, to scholars and laurettes, entertainment and culture, and are the top consumers. Scape goat my ass, you don't see our country desperately seeking to kick blacks out of the country, some KKK members, but it isn't policy. No black people are sneaking over here illegally sucking the blood out of this country and sending it back to Africa..

What have illegals done besides cheap private work? Name one thing..
 
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ParkBoyz said:
^Okay, well those dishwashers, and fast food clerks are taking jobs from law abiding citizens. When they go to apply the spot is filled because they have some illegal/s working there. We don't need that shit here, it's hard enough for poor people here, our citizens are top priority, or at least should be. I don't know too many illegal Asians or Italians. And if you don't need stats, I don't either.

Let's generalize then. Go to any corner or any Bar and you're gaurenteed to see an illegal either selling crack, robbing folx, or getting punch drunk, starting fights with citizens.

Why are you changing your argument around now? First they're all hardened criminals, now they're taking everyone's job? You honestly think our citizens are our government's top priority? Where are you living? And whose talking about illegal Asians and Italians, I'm just asking you who works at those restaurants. I don't need stats because I'm not making outrageous claims such as yourself.

And do you condone the behavior you described when you generalized to citizens? You're acting like there aren't any criminals that are US citizens! Can you please tell me what the majority of people in prison are? Would it happen to be black? What about people on welfare? It's ok for people to be on welfare but it's not ok for people to actually work for their money?

ParkBoyz said:
Please, many latino gangs started in Latin America or Mexico, MS 13 and Sur 13 are affiliates, that was a dumb statement, especially in the context of L.A.. Again, not all illegals are gang members but many are, we can't read the mind with some lazer scan of every immigrant that crosses the border, that's why we have a legal process and that's why America doesn't accept international felons.
Do you condone the crips and bloods, the KKK/Nazi/hell's angels? There are gangs for every race, how can you blame this problem on illegal immigrants coming from Mexico?

ParkBoyz said:
Haha, please, there is no special relationship and Europeans have broken treaties since time immemorable, but you don't see Black people marching for their 40 acres, though it is brought of from time to time, I don't think any of us expect that type of compensation. Native Americans lost the entire country due to broken treaties, man please, your naivete is embarrassing. You can't hold them to any 150 year old treaties, ha!
I don't see people trying to send blacks to Africa either. And how is working hard for your money the same as getting compensation? They are not begging anybody for money, they come here to work. What part of that don't you understand? The reason I mention the treaty is just to show the relationship between the US and Mexico, and how far back it goes.

ParkBoyz said:
1. I want to know how you came to the conclusion that none of them are criminals and that the vast majority are decent people as if Mexicans posses some type of infallible moral character?

2. You obviously misunderstood the logic so let me repeat myself.. If Mexico is as poor as you portray it then it shouldn't be surprising that they'd breed criminals.

3. War, smore, no one is scared of a few unarmed illegals, if anything in my backyard gets fucked up there's going to be guerilla war. 400 Million vs. 12 isn't good odds, any threatening the stability of this country and our home is to be dealt with accordingly..
1. I have never said that none of them are criminals, however, I have and continue to say that the MAJORITY of them are hard-working people trying to make it just like everyone else.

2. Every country breeds criminals, it's what happens when there's not enough to go around. You're speaking on this issue like you have facts to back your claim. I could say that blacks breed lazy, crack smoking/dealing, welfare recieving, malt liquor-drinking low-lifes, but I wouldn't want to offend you or anyone the same way you're doing by stating what you said about Mexico.

3. Don't forget about the entire country beneath you, all of Latin America, The Middle Eastern countries, N. Korea, China, basically anyone against America. If there is a war, you think people are gonna let it be a civil war, when there is so much anti-american sentiment in the world? "A few unarmed illegals" will start WWIII if they are forced to.

ParkBoyz said:
Those petty hoodlum gangs have no artillery! If they were so formidable they shouldn't have to worry about local cops throwing them behind bars and deporting them everyday, let alone the national guard and millions of fed up citizens..
You think that all Mexican gang members are illegal citizens and worry about getting deported?? There is power in numbers, and that is all I need to say.
 
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Lamberto Quintero said:
Why are you changing your argument around now? First they're all hardened criminals, now they're taking everyone's job? You honestly think our citizens are our government's top priority? Where are you living? And whose talking about illegal Asians and Italians, I'm just asking you who works at those restaurants. I don't need stats because I'm not making outrageous claims such as yourself.
Why are you twisting my words around, I say many were hardened criminals, but by law they're all criminals. I've been saying that they're taking poor people's jobs, how much more could I emphasize that? And yes, of course citizens are our governments top priority, mainly white ones, but it should be all citizens. I live in the Bay Area, and if you weren't suggesting that Italians and Asian workers aren't usually illegals than you shouldn't of mentioned them in the same breath as illegal Mexicans, your point is inane. Also it is a pretty outrageous claim that "Mexicans" are all some how harder workers, genetically predisposed to handle grime that other people wouldn't bother with. That's the biggest perpetuated lie in the entire immigration debate.

Lamberto Quintero said:
And do you condone the behavior you described when you generalized to citizens? You're acting like there aren't any criminals that are US citizens! Can you please tell me what the majority of people in prison are? Would it happen to be black? What about people on welfare? It's ok for people to be on welfare but it's not ok for people to actually work for their money?
There are criminals in the U.S., but we have to put up with them, we don't have to put up with illegals! The majority of people in California prisons are actually Mexican, nation-Wide, black, but what's the point? "Black" isn't some monotypic group, it's a social designation, these people vary genetically and are only unified through culture and a broad label, and there's a longer history and legacy of Africans in the country with sociological ramifications. Illegals simply come over here and immediately get locked up. Welfare = government assistance which isn't available to immigrants, and most black people I know on welfare actually do work and simply abuse the system. Shows how much you know..

Lamberto Quintero said:
Do you condone the crips and bloods, the KKK/Nazi/hell's angels? There are gangs for every race, how can you blame this problem on illegal immigrants coming from Mexico?
No one has pulled the race card except for a few sensitive folx in this thread.. We have to deal with our own citizens, not illegals..


Lamberto Quintero said:
I don't see people trying to send blacks to Africa either. And how is working hard for your money the same as getting compensation? They are not begging anybody for money, they come here to work. What part of that don't you understand? The reason I mention the treaty is just to show the relationship between the US and Mexico, and how far back it goes.
I don't understand why they either can't work in their own country or just go through the same process as everyone else instead of being as lazy as you accuse blacks of being. And again, the treaty nonsense was a naive attempt to make a point.


Lamberto Quintero said:
1. I have never said that none of them are criminals, however, I have and continue to say that the MAJORITY of them are hard-working people trying to make it just like everyone else.

2. Every country breeds criminals, it's what happens when there's not enough to go around. You're speaking on this issue like you have facts to back your claim. I could say that blacks breed lazy, crack smoking/dealing, welfare recieving, malt liquor-drinking low-lifes, but I wouldn't want to offend you or anyone the same way you're doing by stating what you said about Mexico.

3. Don't forget about the entire country beneath you, all of Latin America, The Middle Eastern countries, N. Korea, China, basically anyone against America. If there is a war, you think people are gonna let it be a civil war, when there is so much anti-american sentiment in the world? "A few unarmed illegals" will start WWIII if they are forced to.
1. You don't know what the intentions of "the majority" are.

2. Yes, every country breeds criminals, this is why we have our own country, to deal with our own criminals!

3. If there is a war, no one is running to the aid of a few immigrants, especially not the near east. The U.N. would put that to rest quick you wanna talk scenario.
 

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can you explain to me how that was not an assumption after using a term reserved for someones citizenship status and not their intentions of coming here?
 
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i guess im the only mexican american whos had a bad experience with illegal mexicans and doesn't feel sorry for them or feel they are that big a deal to keep around.....one day they'll have machines that picc all the fruit and veggies and this argument will be pointless.....
 
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CcytzO_Loc said:
aye lamberto how many ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS do you personally know and live around on a daily basis???? cuz the majority of the ones i live around waste their money on liquor and drugs and whores and a lot of them engage in illegal means to get the money......it might just be the lucc of the draw and you got all the good natured ones living near you i dunno but im speaking off 1st hand experiences not any kinda superior motivation......i just dont think its fair that a lot of these people are abusing a system that costs me money and i cant get away with doing the same things they are doing....if they are so poor how can they afford to get drunk and fucc whores every night???? how do they afford new truccs with rims and sound systems???? how do they afford all that gold around they neccs???? these niggaz aint all impoverished immigrants....a lot of them are ballers and making way more money than me.....shit some of them waste more money than i make legit......

man i wish i had time to argue on this board like i used too...

you talking about how illegals do drugs and bring drugs and engage in illegal activity....yet you are a rapper....

Atleast they giving you something to rap about! :confused:

5000
 
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CcytzO_Loc

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JLMACN said:
man i wish i had time to argue on this board like i used too...

you talking about how illegals do drugs and bring drugs and engage in illegal activity....yet you are a rapper....

Atleast they giving you something to rap about! :confused:

5000

you dont make any sense and im not surprised cuz ive seen some of your dumb ass posts in the strange forum....


i dont rap about paisas smoking roccs and raping girls......so they aint giving me shit to rap about......and i aint saying i dont do drugs or ever sold them cuz i would be a liar and a hypocrite....but im not breaking as many laws as these illegal immigrants are and if i do im a lot easier to tracc and keep tabs on then they are since i was born here and have been tagged since birth.....

fucc it.....yall wont ever understand my point of view cuz you aint seen it......stay comfy in your house in the suburbs talking about an issue that doesnt directly affect you everyday......while i deal with the shitty end of the sticc when it comes to immigration.......
 

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CcytzO_Loc said:
i guess im the only mexican american whos had a bad experience with illegal mexicans and doesn't feel sorry for them or feel they are that big a deal to keep around.....one day they'll have machines that picc all the fruit and veggies and this argument will be pointless.....
i think its the generalizing of all illegals off of the experience's you have had that makes ur points a lil narrow..
 

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CcytzO_Loc said:
i guess im the only mexican american whos had a bad experience with illegal mexicans and doesn't feel sorry for them or feel they are that big a deal to keep around.....one day they'll have machines that picc all the fruit and veggies and this argument will be pointless.....

you arent judging those who want to make a better living for themselves. they DO exist you know?

EDIT: i guess i replied before reading trolls^, but i will keep it anyway