Illegal Immigrants Demand Citizenship

[kayvee]

lol@comming here legally.

apparently you dont know how hard it is to obtain a visa in mexico, central or south america.

~k.

 

[CcytzO_Loc]

Mexico is a little different than the United States Ccytzo, and since when did these people refuse to learn English? That's rediculous! Not being able to learn English is one thing, but refusing it is completely retarded. Who would refuse to learn something that could help them get jobs?

And all the shit you described DOES go on in every single Mexican beach/ tourist spot!

thas why i said not a tourist spot....cuz the tourist spots are made for this reason....we dont make our neighborhoods for these reasons but they use them like they were built just for that.....

 

[HERESY]

Really? So agriculture is not that important to the California economy?

Agriculture is important to californias economy, but common sense tells that if illegal immigrants no longer pick fruit or work in the agriculture field that wages would RISE and people would take the jobs.

 

[kayvee]

also tell me this...

how would you feel if you were a middle aged woman and you mind your own business.....go to work everyday....your a legal citizen born in this country and you try to follow the rules as much as possible....you pay taxes and you work hard for your money to barely get by......when you come home from work theres a shitload of cars in your way with a bunch of drunk illegal immigrants standing around whistling at you and yelling obscene things in spanish....

happens to me all the time..so i cuss them out in spanish.

one of them is in your parking spot that you pay for and when you ask them to move their car they talk shit to you......

my brother's neighbor..my brother checked dood

then one day one of them is driving drunk and hits you on their way out of the gate....you try to chase them down but they disappear....you recognize them another day and tell them that they hit you and didn't stop....they try to lie about it....they finally admit it but they don't have a license or insurance and they only say they will give you some money for the damage but you have no way of knowing for sure.....
you can call the police who wont be able to do shit cuz they wont even find the fool cuz his car aint registered in his name....he aint even registered cuz he is an illegal alien!!!!! then days later when he said he would come and pay you he doesnt.....your assed out and cant do shit about it cuz you was trying to live your life legit but these fuccs dont care about you or your country they just want what they can get out of it to benefit them.....they was all outside here today yelling fucc america......and we supposed to feel sorry for them??????

been there done that, thats why i have my own insurance

this is what my mom has to deal with where she lives.....so i guess she should move because its their right to do these things and if she dont like it she can go somewhere else right??????

boo hoo. your mom should be able to stand up for herself, speak up for herself, and have some fucking insurance.

~k.

 

[kayvee]

Agriculture is important to californias economy, but common sense tells that if illegal immigrants no longer pick fruit or work in the agriculture field that wages would RISE and people would take the jobs.

good luck buying some groceries at safeway when that happens.

~k.

 

[Lamberto Quintero]

how would you feel if you were a middle aged woman

Uhh, not so good actually.

...and you mind your own business.....go to work everyday....your a legal citizen born in this country and you try to follow the rules as much as possible....you pay taxes and you work hard for your money to barely get by......when you come home from work theres a shitload of cars in your way with a bunch of drunk illegal immigrants standing around whistling at you and yelling obscene things in spanish....one of them is in your parking spot that you pay for and when you ask them to move their car they talk shit to you......then one day one of them is driving drunk and hits you on their way out of the gate....you try to chase them down but they disappear....you recognize them another day and tell them that they hit you and didn't stop....they try to lie about it....they finally admit it but they don't have a license or insurance and they only say they will give you some money for the damage but you have no way of knowing for sure.....you can call the police who wont be able to do shit cuz they wont even find the fool cuz his car aint registered in his name....he aint even registered cuz he is an illegal alien!!!!! then days later when he said he would come and pay you he doesnt.....your assed out and cant do shit about it cuz you was trying to live your life legit but these fuccs dont care about you or your country they just want what they can get out of it to benefit them.....they was all outside here today yelling fucc america......and we supposed to feel sorry for them??????

this is what my mom has to deal with where she lives.....so i guess she should move because its their right to do these things and if she dont like it she can go somewhere else right??????

LOL, how are you gonna think that they're all like that though! And if you're mom has a problem with these dudes, maybe YOU need to go and have a talk with them, or more. Would it make you feel better if those people were white, chinese, or black? You're stereotyping a lot of people by just a couple of incidents...

 

[ParkBoyz]

A lot are hardened criminals? Show me some statistics before you make claims like that, sounds like you're just pulling shit outta your ass. What does the fac that they're poor have to do with America? YOU need to do some research on the US foreign policy with Mexico, NAFTA, intrusions during the Mexican Revolution, all the way back to The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. America isn't obligated to provide services for anybody, people WORK! I would understand if these people came here and were all on welfare, but they come here and earn everything they get. Of course Mexico isn't the poorest country in the world, it's got like the 3rd most billionaires of any country in the world I think! That doesn't change the fact that people struggle to eat there, so they come here to get their bread. Mexico's relationship to the United States is very unique, and if you don't understand why then you need to take a couple of history classes. Also, in the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, exclusive rights were given to immigrants wanting to come here from Mexico.

Show me some stats which state that they're hard workers? I think you're talking out of your ass. Last I heard there was a major gang problem in L.A. with an accompanying race war that could of been prevented with better border control. If Mexico's relationship with America was so damn special then why the hell is it illegal for their citizens to walk a few miles across the border? They obviously don't cherish the relationship enough to where they'd forfeit hegemony over the borders and national stability, so your point is invalid. Again, America owes way more to its own citizens than it does to Mexico, and actually other parts of the world before Mexico specifically.

Again, if you don't understand the "special" relationship that Mexico and the United States have, then you need do a little reading. And why do you see it as giving people life savers?? They come here and work, they don't get anything for free. I have nothing against immigrants from Haiti, Africa, all of Latin America, if they can make it here, I would welcome them and wish them luck. The reason there is so much opportunity and wealth in this country has a lot to do with the fact that the US government has fucked countries over all over the world for their resources. Look at all they've done in just Latin America!

This argument never ends, but I will say this: there will be a war before the US kicks out 12 million Mexicans. So these politicians and congressmen better think really good when they're writing and passing the immigration reform laws...

There is no "special" relationship, you're delusional.. You claim a relationship with America yet Bush is building like a million foot gate at the border. Again as I told someone else in another thread, "your condescending tone will not increase your IQ", so save the antics, I read plenty.. All of them don't come here just to work, cut the bullshit! A lot do, but a lot are also hardened criminals, "Mexico" is not a breeding ground for divine people, please! If it's as poor as you portray it, it should be expected that they breed criminals. If you don't mind the entire world integrating to America then I don't know what to say to you, you're simply irrational and have personal interest invested I guess. You want a world government centered right here in the U.S., borderless anarchy. I have no sympathy for Latin America, they're way better off than a lot of other places, a whole lot better off (emphasis added). You can't turn it into a pity case and justify it as a reason to open up borders. Let there be war, it'll just be a useless genocide when all they had to do was leave.

 

[Lamberto Quintero]

Agriculture is important to californias economy, but common sense tells that if illegal immigrants no longer pick fruit or work in the agriculture field that wages would RISE and people would take the jobs.

Common sense, and a little economic sense, also tells us that if this happens, expect prices in EVERYTHING food related to rise a rediculous amount. Do you disagree with that?

 

[CcytzO_Loc]

happens to me all the time..so i cuss them out in spanish.


my brother's neighbor..my brother checked dood


been there done that, thats why i have my own insurance


boo hoo. your mom should be able to stand up for herself, speak up for herself, and have some fucking insurance.

~k.

my mom wanted to whoop dudes ass but she wanted to be civil about it too.....and she had insurance she is an INSURANCE AGENT......but she still has deductible and her insurance goes up with no one but her wasting more money not the person who did the damage and laughs it off.......

and i was talking about my mom cuz she tries to live her life by the laws and abide by them....im not the same....ill whoop a punk ass paisas ass before i ask him for insurance.......i have no sympathy for people who dont respect shit......

 

[HERESY]

This argument never ends, but I will say this: there will be a war before the US kicks out 12 million Mexicans. So these politicians and congressmen better think really good when they're writing and passing the immigration reform laws...

If you think the white boys in the hills aren't ready for war you are mistaken, and it isn't possible to round up 12 million mexicans thats why they are taking a different approach.

 

[CcytzO_Loc]

Uhh, not so good actually.



LOL, how are you gonna think that they're all like that though! And if you're mom has a problem with these dudes, maybe YOU need to go and have a talk with them, or more. Would it make you feel better if those people were white, chinese, or black? You're stereotyping a lot of people by just a couple of incidents...

im telling you how they GET AWAY WITH SHIT....any immigrant....he could of been asian and same shit would of happen if he wasnt AN AMERICAN CITIZEN who can be identified....


i go handle it...its gonna end in violence....violence that could of been avoided if that punk wetbacc never crossed the border....

 

[BotomOFdaBay408]

also tell me this...

how would you feel if you were a middle aged woman and you mind your own business.....go to work everyday....your a legal citizen born in this country and you try to follow the rules as much as possible....you pay taxes and you work hard for your money to barely get by......when you come home from work theres a shitload of cars in your way with a bunch of drunk illegal immigrants standing around whistling at you and yelling obscene things in spanish....one of them is in your parking spot that you pay for and when you ask them to move their car they talk shit to you......then one day one of them is driving drunk and hits you on their way out of the gate....you try to chase them down but they disappear....you recognize them another day and tell them that they hit you and didn't stop....they try to lie about it....they finally admit it but they don't have a license or insurance and they only say they will give you some money for the damage but you have no way of knowing for sure.....you can call the police who wont be able to do shit cuz they wont even find the fool cuz his car aint registered in his name....he aint even registered cuz he is an illegal alien!!!!! then days later when he said he would come and pay you he doesnt.....your assed out and cant do shit about it cuz you was trying to live your life legit but these fuccs dont care about you or your country they just want what they can get out of it to benefit them.....they was all outside here today yelling fucc america......and we supposed to feel sorry for them??????

this is what my mom has to deal with where she lives.....so i guess she should move because its their right to do these things and if she dont like it she can go somewhere else right??????

I feel that but what about tha thousands of other Illegal immagrants who dont fuck up. you cant hate on all of them for that. Plus its not only Illegal Imigrants that fuck up like that. that couldve been any other race acting like that too. And dont get me wrong that shit is hella fucked up. And if my mom had ta put up wit shit like that id be heated too.

 

[CcytzO_Loc]

^thas why i said they should make camps that let them come and work and prove themself worthy of staying here 1st......its bad enough we have to weed out the bad people who are born here why cant we screen the ones who are coming in?????

 

[Blaza_4_Eva]

how 'bout them dodgers?

 

[kayvee]

Show me some stats which state that they're hard workers? I think you're talking out of your ass. Last I heard there was a major gang problem in L.A.

HAHAHAHA wtf theres always been gang problems in LA. now you are going to blame illegal immigrants?

put it this way i dont know ANY illegals on welfare. and i know plenty.

~k.

 

[ParkBoyz]

HAHAHAHA wtf theres always been gang problems in LA. now you are going to blame illegal immigrants?

put it this way i dont know ANY illegals on welfare. and i know plenty.

~k.

I mean, according to recent statistics L.A's top three and most dangerous gangs are "Mexican" ones.. Numbers don't lie, there's a major problem down there with illegals.. And Illegals aren't on welfare because they're illegal, use common sense genius..

 

[Lamberto Quintero]

Show me some stats which state that they're hard workers? I think you're talking out of your ass. Last I heard there was a major gang problem in L.A. with an accompanying race war that could of been prevented with better border control. If Mexico's relationship with America was so damn special then why the hell is it illegal for their citizens to walk a few miles across the border? They obviously don't cherish the relationship enough to where they'd forfeit hegemony over the borders and national stability, so your point is invalid. Again, America owes way more to its own citizens than it does to Mexico, and actually other parts of the world before Mexico specifically.

You want some stats? Go to a restaurant and see who's washing the dishes, or a fast food restaurant, or go look in the fields to see who's picking the fruit. I don't need statistics, who the fuck works at EVERY single restaurant? Chinese, Japanese, Vietnames, Italian, all with Mexican workers.

What does the US/Mexican border have to do with gangs that were started in THIS country? A criminal in the US is a criminal anywhere, not everyone who is Mexican is part of a gang. There are plenty though, and it's sad.

And this "special" relationship I speak of is not so obvious, because the US has gone against what they agreed on in the Treaty they signed in 1848. However, this does not negate the fact that part of the negotiations included exclusive rights for a Mexican immigrant over anyone else.

There is no "special" relationship, you're delusional.. You claim a relationship with America yet Bush is building like a million foot gate at the border. Again as I told someone else in another thread, "your condescending tone will not increase your IQ", so save the antics, I read plenty.. All of them don't come here just to work, cut the bullshit! A lot do, but a lot are also hardened criminals, "Mexico" is not a breeding ground for divine people, please! If it's as poor as you portray it, it should be expected that they breed criminals. If you don't mind the entire world integrating to America then I don't know what to say to you, you're simply irrational and have personal interest invested I guess. You want a world government centered right here in the U.S., borderless anarchy. I have no sympathy for Latin America, they're way better off than a lot of other places, a whole lot better off (emphasis added). You can't turn it into a pity case and justify it as a reason to open up borders. Let there be war, it'll just be a useless genocide when all they had to do was leave.

How are a lot of them hardened criminals? I want to know how you came to this conclusion...

"Mexico is not a breeding ground for devine people, please! If it's as poor as you portray it, it should be expected that they breed criminals"

Breeding criminals? This statement right here lost all validity you had to me. Have you ever been to Mexico?

And neither Latin America nor Mexico need anyone's pitty, but you're right about a war. LOL @ trying to act all diplomatic about this shit, like "all they had to do was leave." There will be war before illegal immigrants are sent back to Mexico, and I hope everyone knows this.

 

[kayvee]

my point to you was that i dont know any illegals who came here to bullshit. i know plenty who work and earn their living. if it were so fucking easy to come to the us legally there wouldnt be a "problem". if they werent so fucking poor in their home country they wouldnt see a reason to come to the "land of opportunity".

~k.

 

[Lamberto Quintero]

I mean, according to recent statistics L.A's top three and most dangerous gangs are "Mexican" ones.. Numbers don't lie, there's a major problem down there with illegals.. And Illegals aren't on welfare because they're illegal, use common sense genius..

Not all "Mexicans" are illegal genius! Are legal citizen gang members cool then?

 

[BotomOFdaBay408]

On tha real like i said before i think we have bigger problems ta worry about. If this was really a big problem to our givernment and if we really called ourselves helping Americans then why wouldnt we help Mexico's economy so maybe they wouldnt need to come here for a better life.