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I dont think this is a question whether or not a person can make it in life i think it is a quetstion about your whole country going down the drain and obama aint gonna do shit about it.yes it is a god thing to be motivated and not blame others but why get that confused with criticism for your goverment or your president.and talking off taking responsibillety i didn't se the banks do any of that when they got bailed out.i mean what kind of messege do this send out and at the same time you got obama talking about rollin up your sleaves and bruching your shoulders off with out mentioning what the banks and last adminitration have caused! Or wait a minute maby i just have to scream yes we can with millions of other fanatics and every thing will just work out fine silly me.
 
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@Heresy if i may quote you, "You have a warped an opionated perspective, that does nothing but perpetuates a cycle of illogical thinking". I had to, quote you because as long as you are a "Lord of the Siccness", anybody that doesn't look at life the way you do, you condescend like a Southern Baptist Preacher. Teaching is not preaching, and there is a difference. Since you like to preach, i'll tell you what you end up looking like when you step up on your milkcrate to spread YOUR beliefs, a "SMART DUMMY". When you get out of school, I welcome you to the real world. Book smarts don't mean street smarts, pimpin.
 
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I dont think this is a question whether or not a person can make it in life i think it is a quetstion about your whole country going down the drain and obama aint gonna do shit about it.yes it is a god thing to be motivated and not blame others but why get that confused with criticism for your goverment or your president.and talking off taking responsibillety i didn't se the banks do any of that when they got bailed out.i mean what kind of messege do this send out and at the same time you got obama talking about rollin up your sleaves and bruching your shoulders off with out mentioning what the banks and last adminitration have caused! Or wait a minute maby i just have to scream yes we can with millions of other fanatics and every thing will just work out fine silly me.
You are obviously not an African-American, so Black pride is something you couldn't mentally grasp.
 

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Everybody is not, still in school. I'm curious 2 read it, I was an English major so I could've "graded" your paper for you.
You were an English major. You could have went to school for one semester and dropped out. Considering your track record in the past, I'll pass on your request/offer to repost.

As for your last two posts, they mean nothing to me. You can either address the issues, continue to play the role of a broke down comedian with corny jokes or you can -------->
 
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^^^^Could've, would've, should've^^^^ After attending a HBCU, for 4 years, in the state of Arkansas, I taught upper elementary in a public Montessori school for two. BTW, I completed my college education in 1996. Were you even in high school then??? You are not the only person that appreciates, respects, understands, higher learning.
 

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^^^^Could've, would've, should've^^^^
You would know.

After attending a HBCU, for 4 years, in the state of Arkansas
It doesn't seem like it.

I taught upper elementary in a public Montessori school for two.
Sure you did.

BTW, I completed my college education in 1996.
Sure you did.

Were you even in high school then???
When I graduated from high school is of no concern here. You are the one who introduced yourself as an English major, even though the majority of your posts on this board are full of errors, so the burden of proof and anything relating to education is on you. When you called me a "Smart Dummy" and mentioned "book smarts", you actually acknowledged intelligence. However, I can't and won't return the favor, until you start adding some substance to your posts. I hope this doesn't upset you much, but if it does oh well.

You are not the only person that appreciates, respects, understands, higher learning.
Thanks for acknowledging that I do those things. I would be inclined to reciprocate if you actually walked the walk. Issues are being presented here, if you disagree with them, feel free to tell me what you disagree with and we can explore them further. However, I can't waste my time addressing fallacy after fallacy, so I suggest you either address the issues or ------>
 
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You are obviously not an African-American, so Black pride is something you couldn't mentally grasp.
come on dont play the tired old race card come with real arguments!and i dont understand what black pride has to do with a president that serves wall street not black people. This is not an black or white issue they just have played this on really smart so every time you criticize obama you criticize black people and the whole civil rights movement.Obama is just puppet if you want to know hes true agenda dont look at Obama look at his backers and handlers!http://se.youtube.com/watch?v=H02w1bp4TcU
http://se.youtube.com/watch?v=gs68T-tO4QQ
 
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@seriously thug, them Black Ice vids are dope.

@James Blunt, checc out the vids that Seriously Thug put up. If you believe what that child molester is saying, you probably believe man really didn't go to the moon. Do you believe that the earth is flat too???
 
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@seriously thug, them Black Ice vids are dope.

@James Blunt, checc out the vids that Seriously Thug put up. If you believe what that child molester is saying, you probably believe man really didn't go to the moon. Do you believe that the earth is flat too???
yes i saw those clips and dude was tight but thats poetry not politics and neither is the shit that comes out off Obama mouth thats some utopian motivatinal speeking bullshit and if ever took the time to analyse it you would se that is quit shallow end empty.you shouled also know this that when fascism first hit europa people though it feelt kinda fresh but that shit will wear off as soon you wake up and realize that utopia diden't exist.
 
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Actually, I'm not wrong, you just failed to read what was posted. First off, you are taking two statements I made and lumping them together when they obviously have nothing to do with each other. Second, and most importantly, you are forgetting a key word in what you quoted--many. Let's look at the quote again.



Again, many of these people have infrastructures already in place, and it was never implied that all do, but since there is no way to verify your claim, what should we do with it? I'll tell you what we'll do, we'll actually give you the benefit of the doubt and say it's true. Now then, do you know the term for those who were in similar situations like your mother and "made it" and do you know the ratio of that group and how it compares to those who don't make it? I'll be waiting for an answer or I'll be waiting for you to exit ---------------->
we are both right to a certain extent. im no fool i know my mom is a strong woman, and i know that not many people ever overcome. now why would i lie about something like this, no need to get defensive im just giving you an actual case. i dont know the statitistics but without even looking ill tell you the odds arent good mayber 8-15 percent im guessing.
but i still ask myself this question, if my mom came up here with three kids and nothing else, how come there are people in this country who live off welfare and other government sources, with full rights and still have nothing??
im not saying its easy but im saying U.S. citizens already have head start just by being born.
 
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we are both right to a certain extent. im no fool i know my mom is a strong woman, and i know that not many people ever overcome. now why would i lie about something like this, no need to get defensive im just giving you an actual case. i dont know the statitistics but without even looking ill tell you the odds arent good mayber 8-15 percent im guessing.
but i still ask myself this question, if my mom came up here with three kids and nothing else, how come there are people in this country who live off welfare and other government sources, with full rights and still have nothing??
im not saying its easy but im saying U.S. citizens already have head start just by being born.
how were your moms parents raised?
 
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im not saying its easy but im saying U.S. citizens already have head start just by being born.

I agree with that. American's own standard of living is mostly compared relative to other Americans standards of living when in reality just about everyone here is living much better than even the above average person in Somalia. Its all relative.



More philosophically speaking, the human species battle between the "haves" and "have-nots" will continue for as long as our species exists. Even if humans were ever able to hypothetically divide up wealth exactly equally we would return back to our original distribution or we would divide ourselves with some other criteria.



"But no matter what they did, the model always produced the same basic shape of wealth distribution—precisely the same shape as Pareto's distribution. This happened even when every person in the model started out with exactly the same amount of money. And it happened when every person was endowed with identical money-making skills.

The finding suggests that the basic inequality in wealth distribution seen in most societies may have little to do with differences in the backgrounds and talents of their citizens. Rather, the disparity appears to be something akin to a law of economic life that emerges naturally as an organizational feature of a network."



This article from the Harvard Business Review provides a lot of insight into the study of economies as networks and Pareto Distribution. If you read anything today, I would higly recommend reading the following article.


The economic world is full of patterns, many of which exert a profound influence over society and business. One of the most controversial is the distribution of wealth. You might expect the balance between the rich and the poor to vary widely from country to country. Different nations, after all, have different resources and produce different kinds of products. Some rely on agriculture, others on heavy industry, still others on high technology. And their peoples have different backgrounds, skills, and levels of education. But in 1897, an Italian engineer-turned-economist named Vilfredo Pareto discovered a pattern in the distribution of wealth that appears to be every bit as universal as the laws of thermodynamics or chemistry.

Suppose that in the United States or Cuba or Thailand—or any other country for that matter—you count the number of people worth, say, $10,000. Then you count the number of people at many other levels of wealth, both large and small, and you plot the results on a graph. You would find, as Pareto did, many individuals at the lowest end of the scale and fewer and fewer as you progress along the graph toward higher levels of wealth. But when Pareto studied the numbers more closely, he discovered that they dwindled in a very special way toward the wealthy end of the curve: Each time you double the amount of wealth, the number of people falls by a constant factor. The factor varies from country to country, but the pattern remains essentially the same.



Unlike a standard bell curve distribution, in which great deviations from the average are very rare, Pareto's so-called fat-tailed distribution starts very high at the low end, has no bulge in the middle at all, and falls off relatively slowly at the high end, indicating that some number of extremely wealthy people hold the lion's share of a country's riches. In the United States, for example, something like 80% of the wealth is held by only 20% of the people. But this particular 80-20 split is not really the point; in some other country, the precise numbers might be 90-20 or 95-10 or something else. The important point is that the distribution (at the wealthy end, at least) follows a strikingly simple mathematical curve illustrating that a small fraction of people always owns a large fraction of the wealth.

What causes this pattern? Is there some kind of regularity in human behavior or culture that supersedes national variations? Is there some devilish conspiracy among the rich? Not surprisingly, given the strong emotions stirred by matters of wealth and its disparity, economists have flocked to such questions. Of the central issues in economics, John Kenneth Galbraith wrote in his History of Economics, the first is "how equitable or inequitable is the income distribution. The explanation and rationalization of the resulting inequality has commanded some of the greatest, or in any case some of the most ingenious, talent in the economics profession." Despite all the attention, however, Pareto's distribution has, from a mathematical standpoint, stubbornly defied explanation.

Finding out why one individual is richer than another is, of course, relatively straightforward. One has only to delve into the details of inheritance and education, inherent ability and desire to make money, circumstance, and plain old luck. The sons or daughters of doctors or bankers frequently become doctors or bankers themselves, while children born into inner-city poverty often remain mired in hardship, unable to escape their environment. But Pareto's distribution isn't about individuals. It captures a pattern that emerges at the level of large groups, leaving individual histories aside. It is, it might be posited, a network effect.

As scientists have discovered, many of the overarching organizational features of networks depend only weakly or not at all on the actions or character of their individual members. Physicists, to take just one example, have long known that, in some cases, they can build strikingly accurate models of complex molecular systems using only a few very crude assumptions. It turns out that the details of individual atoms have little influence over the behavior of the entire network. In principle, the same might be true of wealth. Perhaps Pareto's distribution reflects less about people and their characteristics than it does about the deeper, impersonal laws of network organization.


Webs of wealth

To find out, let's forget for the moment about creativity and risk taking, the distribution of intelligence, and all the other factors that might influence an individual's destiny. Instead, let's focus on the flow of wealth in an economy. Think of an economy as a network of interacting people. At any given time, each person has a certain amount of wealth, and over the days and weeks, that amount will change in one of two fundamental ways. Your employer pays you for your work; you sell your car; you build a patio; you take a vacation in Italy. Such transactions transfer wealth from one person to another along the links in the network. But suppose you purchase a house or a piece of land, and, sadly, its value falls. Or you invest in stocks and, as in the 1990s, the market soars, showering on you a pile of totally new wealth. In such cases, wealth is not merely transferred but actually created or destroyed. Very basically, then, a person's wealth can go up or down either through transactions with others or by earning returns (positive or negative) on investments.

This is hardly news, of course, but it implies that two factors control the basic dynamics in the web of wealth. As people earn salaries, pay rent, buy food, and so on, wealth should flow through the network in a more or less regular way, like water through a network of pipes. Meanwhile, owing to investments, overall wealth should generally increase slowly, even as individuals' wealth randomly kicks up or down as their investments go particularly well or especially poorly.
The finding suggests that the basic inequality in wealth distribution seen in most societies may have little to do with differences in the backgrounds and talents of their citizens.
— Mark Buchanan

Obviously, this picture leaves out almost every detail of reality except the most basic. And yet it is intriguing to wonder if these two simple factors might imply something about how wealth ends up being distributed. A couple of years ago, physicists Jean-Philippe Bouchaud and Marc Mézard of the University of Paris took a large step toward answering this question by bringing into the picture one other "obvious" fact—that the value of wealth is relative. A multimillionaire, for example, will not ordinarily sweat losing a few thousand dollars in the stock market, but the same loss would likely be catastrophic for a single parent trying to raise her son while putting herself through college. The value of money depends on how much one already has, and consequently wealthy people tend to invest more than the less wealthy.

With these commonplace observations, Bouchaud and Mézard formulated a set of equations that could follow wealth as it shifts from person to person, as each person receives random gains or losses from his investments, and as those who accumulate more wealth invest relatively more. Equations in hand for a network of 1,000 people, the two physicists set to work with a computer to create an economic model. Not knowing precisely how to link people together into a network of transactions, they tried various alternatives. Unsure of how precisely to set the balance between interpersonal transactions and investment returns, they tried shifting it first one way and then the other. But no matter what they did, the model always produced the same basic shape of wealth distribution—precisely the same shape as Pareto's distribution. This happened even when every person in the model started out with exactly the same amount of money. And it happened when every person was endowed with identical money-making skills.

The finding suggests that the basic inequality in wealth distribution seen in most societies may have little to do with differences in the backgrounds and talents of their citizens. Rather, the disparity appears to be something akin to a law of economic life that emerges naturally as an organizational feature of a network.


Shades of inequality

Bouchaud and Mézard's discovery suggests that the temptation to find complex explanations behind the distribution of wealth may be seriously misguided. What makes wealth fall into the pockets of a few appears to be quite simple. On the one hand, transactions between people tend to spread wealth around. If one person becomes dramatically wealthy, she may start a business, build a house, and consume more products, and in each case wealth will tend to flow out to others in the network. Conversely, if a person becomes terribly poor, he will tend to purchase fewer products, and less wealth will flow through links going away from him. Overall, the flow of funds along links in the network should act to wash away wealth disparities.

But it seems that this washing out effect never manages to gain the upper hand, for the random returns on investment drive a counterbalancing rich-get-richer phenomenon. Even if everyone starts out equal, differences in investment luck will cause some people to start to accumulate more wealth than others. Those who are lucky will tend to invest more and so have a chance to make greater gains still. Hence, a string of positive returns builds a person's wealth not merely by addition but by multiplication, as each subsequent gain grows ever bigger. This is enough, even in a world of equals where returns on investment are entirely random, to stir up huge wealth disparities in the population.

That doesn't mean that inequities in wealth can't be mitigated. In a Pareto distribution, the factor by which the number of people declines as wealth increases remains constant in any particular country, but the factor itself is different in different countries. So, while there is always a disparity between the rich and the poor, there are differences in degree from country to country. And, socially speaking, there's a world of difference between an 80-20 distribution and 90-5.

Bouchaud and Mézard's network model can track those degrees of inequality and show how Pareto's distribution can be influenced. Specifically, the two researchers found that the greater the volume of money flowing through the economy and the more often it changes hands, the greater the equality. Conversely, the more volatile investment returns are, the richer the rich tend to get.

Excerpted with permission from "Wealth Happens," Harvard Business Review, Vol. 80, No. 4, April 2002.
 

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we are both right to a certain extent.
No we aren't, and I say this because it appears you have selective reading and don't understand what I'm typing.

im no fool i know my mom is a strong woman, and i know that not many people ever overcome.
You claim your mother is a "strong woman", and "know that not many people ever overcome", yet you open your last post with, "i can say Heresy is wrong on this." Why is that? You're either contradicting yourself, or you're speaking and typing without first reading and comprehending what you're replying to.

now why would i lie about something like this, no need to get defensive im just giving you an actual case.
You still don't get it. You are providing me with one case. That one case is not an adequate represenation of success experienced by those who migrate to america. And I'm not getting defensive, but when you open your post up with claims that I'm wrong, without fully understanding what I'm saying, yet turn around and basically agree with me, what would you really have me do?

but i still ask myself this question, if my mom came up here with three kids and nothing else, how come there are people in this country who live off welfare and other government sources, with full rights and still have nothing??
I gave the answers to these questions in my 'long' reply. Look at some of the terms provided, google them, take a sociology class and learn. If you do not have the time, read the article posted by Mr. Nice Guy.

im not saying its easy but im saying U.S. citizens already have head start just by being born.
Head start from who? The rest of the world? In some aspects yes, in other cases no. From each other? Again, in some aspects yes and others no. Let me ask you something, do you know what "white privilege" is? If not, read this:

http://mmcisaac.faculty.asu.edu/emc598ge/Unpacking.html

As you can see, even though people in america may have an advantage over people from other countries (again, in some aspects), there are people born here who still have a head start on others born here as well.

In closing, this is something I posted in my long reply:

who has a better chance in this country? A young black male who reads at a third grade level, lacks social skills, has been in the criminal justice system, and barely has enough money to eat a balanced meal, or a young black male who is college educated, has sufficient social proof, has no criminal record, and has never known poverty?
Do you see which has a head start? BTW, here is an excerpt from the article that supports the above quote:

Finding out why one individual is richer than another is, of course, relatively straightforward. One has only to delve into the details of inheritance and education, inherent ability and desire to make money, circumstance, and plain old luck. The sons or daughters of doctors or bankers frequently become doctors or bankers themselves, while children born into inner-city poverty often remain mired in hardship, unable to escape their environment. But Pareto's distribution isn't about individuals. It captures a pattern that emerges at the level of large groups, leaving individual histories aside. It is, it might be posited, a network effect.
 
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US fast-food giant McDonald's said Monday its 2008 net profit soared 80 percent from a year, lifted by growing demand from consumers seeking low-cost meals in a deepening global recession.
Net profit for the full year totaled 4.3 billion dollars, compared with 2.3 billion in 2007, the Oak Brook, Illinois-based company said in a statement.

Excluding exceptional items, earnings per share were 3.76 dollars, widely exceeding consensus market forecasts of 3.63 dollars.

The robust annual results came despite a sharp 23 percent decline in fourth-quarter net profit to 985 million dollars, from 1.273 billion in the 2007 fourth quarter. Fourth-quarter earnings per share were 87 cents, above expectations of 83 cents.

"2008 was a strong year for McDonald's," chief executive Jim Skinner said in the statement.

"Through our strategic focus on menu choice, food quality and value, the average number of customers served per day increased to more than 58 million in 2008."

The global fast-food giant said it saw growth in comparable sales and customer counts across all segment for ever quarter, and double-digit growth in operating income for the final quarter and the year.

Global comparable sales in 2008 increased 6.9 percent. That included rises of 4.0 percent in the United States, 8.5 percent in Europe, and 9.0 percent in Asia/Pacific, Middle East and Africa, the company said.

Cost-focused companies such as McDonald's and budget retailers generally have weathered the global financial crisis better than others as consumers seek ways to stretch their dollars.
 
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Head start from who? The rest of the world? In some aspects yes, in other cases no. From each other? Again, in some aspects yes and others no. Let me ask you something, do you know what "white privilege" is? If not, read this:

http://mmcisaac.faculty.asu.edu/emc598ge/Unpacking.html

As you can see, even though people in america may have an advantage over people from other countries (again, in some aspects), there are people born here who still have a head start on others born here as well.

what is this? the book off instruction for white guilt?