I got another question for yall
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The bible says the word was with him since the beginning, not always with him. Jesus/Michael was the first born of all creation, Jesus is < Jehovah/Yahweh. Jesus is not to be worshipped. The disciples and apostles NEVER worshipped him and were not allowed to by Jesus, my suggestion is to get a bible that is written in modern english and not this thou hath giveth crap, cuz that's how false religion keeps you from understanding, by using scriptures in old english which most people don't understand and don't dig for the real truth cuz they use an ancient language that no one understands, therefore keeping that vail in front of your eyes, blocking you from the truth. Jesus said he that has seen me has seen the father, that is NOT literal, he was speaking in personality and quality traits, not physically. The bible says that jesus ways in Sheol/hades/hell for 3 days. If Jesus was god, and there was a burning hell, why would he sit there and burn for 3 days? LOL and who resurrected him? If he is God, how could men kill him? Jehovah/Yahweh is not Jesus in another language, Jehovah/Yahweh is GOD and the only true god. Jesus is a god too, but only because men make him one. I can quote scriptures all day homie, I got a bible here on my desk, but I'm at work and am not even supposed to be doing this at all. LOL but I like a good debate. it's fun yall. Thanks for all the replies and PM me if you want to chat about anything else regarding these things.
you seem to catch my drift homie, I don't agree with some of the things you posted about previously, but you in my general area dude.
as far as the Serpent Seed, if it ain't in the bible I don't read it. Especially any of these books you get that you have to buy from tele-evangelists and shyt. You should never have to buy the word of god. God made it free not for profit if ya know what I mean.
as far as the Serpent Seed, if it ain't in the bible I don't read it. Especially any of these books you get that you have to buy from tele-evangelists and shyt. You should never have to buy the word of god. God made it free not for profit if ya know what I mean.
i'm just letting all of you know, those who even bothered to do research on what i said, pray and ask God in Jesus Christ Name to confirm it. Don't take my words or Big-E's words for it. I have just scratched the surface concerning the diety of Christ Jesus. For those that need to understand more about bible versions and Translations, take note that although the King James Version of the New Testament has not completely been properly translated, IT HAS NEVER REMOVED or revised bible verses. Many of the New Translations TAKE VERSES OUT and even CHANGE Terms, Parables and Meanings. In the book of Revelation any man, angel or person who takes or adds to the bible will have their names removed from the book of life.
Revelation 12:7 talks about how how war broke out in Heaven and Michael the archangel with all his angels battled with the Dragon (Satan) and his angels (Demons) and hurled them down to earth.
Daniel 12:1 - Michael is the great prince who is standing in behalf of the sons of your people.
1 John 2:1,2 speaks of how Jesus is standing as a propitiatory sacrifice for all people.
1 Thessalonians 4:14-16 speaks of how Jesus will return with the voice of an Archangel and command the dead to rise.
Archangel means Prince of all Angels, Jesus was Michael the Archangel, first born of all creation before he came to earth, Jehovah/Yahweh changed his name to Jesus Christ and made him King of the Angels and heaven for willfully coming to earth and sacrificing himself for the greater good of mankind. Then when he returned to heaven, and was given control of Heaven, (1914 A.D. PM me if you would like the mathematical explanation of this date. It's too long to type at work.) his first order of business from Jehovah/Yahweh was to rid the heavens of Satan and his demons, and hurl them down to earth, giving him little but undisclosed amount time to mislead all of the human race and try to prove God a liar, but Jehovah/Yahweh knew before he agreed to the challenge that no matter how hard Satan tried, There would always be people on this planet that no matter what happens will stand by God and not disown him for what Satan has to offer.
Does this answer why I believe Jesus used to be Michael the Archangel?
Daniel 12:1 - Michael is the great prince who is standing in behalf of the sons of your people.
1 John 2:1,2 speaks of how Jesus is standing as a propitiatory sacrifice for all people.
1 Thessalonians 4:14-16 speaks of how Jesus will return with the voice of an Archangel and command the dead to rise.
Archangel means Prince of all Angels, Jesus was Michael the Archangel, first born of all creation before he came to earth, Jehovah/Yahweh changed his name to Jesus Christ and made him King of the Angels and heaven for willfully coming to earth and sacrificing himself for the greater good of mankind. Then when he returned to heaven, and was given control of Heaven, (1914 A.D. PM me if you would like the mathematical explanation of this date. It's too long to type at work.) his first order of business from Jehovah/Yahweh was to rid the heavens of Satan and his demons, and hurl them down to earth, giving him little but undisclosed amount time to mislead all of the human race and try to prove God a liar, but Jehovah/Yahweh knew before he agreed to the challenge that no matter how hard Satan tried, There would always be people on this planet that no matter what happens will stand by God and not disown him for what Satan has to offer.
Does this answer why I believe Jesus used to be Michael the Archangel?
brother, let us divide the Word of Truth as YahWeh would and let us not debate but gain ground in understanding. AMen? Ok those bible verses have nothing to do with Jesus Being Michael. To each nation, AN ANGEL is appointed to a Nation, Michael Being the Arc Angel, angel meaning messanger, and Meaning he is the Lead Messanger for Israel is the Angel of the Nation of Israel. He is the Chief Angel indeed but not Christ. MiKael in Hebrew means one who is Like God, Satan was one who also was like a god, He was near the throne of the Most High and could almost do anything but create things and have power higher than Yahweh! Notice it's ONE WHO IS LIKE GOD, BUT NOT ONE IS GOD. Jesus Christ was all of it. The Voice of the Arcangel is a great Voice, notice how how the Last Trump is blown and the Voice of Michael Prepares the world for the coming of Y'shua HaMashiach.
Did you ever take account of the things I told you concerning the name of Jesus Christ in Hebrew? Jesus uses many things, if the bible said, God will come with the Voice of Elijah and Moses would you think Elijah and Moses are God? LOL open your eyes brother, and hearken unto this. Jehovah witnesses are close to the truth, they aren't bad people, just people who know the truth, but have miscontrued words and understanding. If God Said, The Lord shall descend with the Voice of Moses, would that mean Moses is God? Do not be spiritually discerned, neither should you remain ignorant. I've had to go against orthodoxy and been rejected because people have chosen to close their minds and keep their itching ears.
Serpent Seed is Biblical, but the term may seem UNORThodox, but it has more merit than the rapture. I'll be back with a link
Did you ever take account of the things I told you concerning the name of Jesus Christ in Hebrew? Jesus uses many things, if the bible said, God will come with the Voice of Elijah and Moses would you think Elijah and Moses are God? LOL open your eyes brother, and hearken unto this. Jehovah witnesses are close to the truth, they aren't bad people, just people who know the truth, but have miscontrued words and understanding. If God Said, The Lord shall descend with the Voice of Moses, would that mean Moses is God? Do not be spiritually discerned, neither should you remain ignorant. I've had to go against orthodoxy and been rejected because people have chosen to close their minds and keep their itching ears.
Serpent Seed is Biblical, but the term may seem UNORThodox, but it has more merit than the rapture. I'll be back with a link
I know what you mean brother, YahWeh was the name of God, but the rabbis during the time of revision or translation though Yahweh would be misused so they replaced it with Adonai. Nonethess Yahweh is Adonai, Lord, Elohim, True God.
But again John 14:6
Jesus said unto him, I am the way, the Truth, and the Light: no man comes to the Father but by me.
John 14:1
Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
John 12:48-49
He the rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last days.
For I have not spoken of myself: but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment what should say, and what I should speak.
John 6:41
The Jews Murmured at him, because he said, I AM(YAH) the bread which came down from heaven.
Jesus said he is Yah, YHWH. He that rejects the Word of God(YESHUA HAMASHIACH) rejects the father. You made an objection to the Word being Eternal, In the beginning was the Word, you said not eternity right? So then Why did YahWeh say he was the First and the Last? Don't dig deeper my brother, you will dig yourself a hole rather than a spring of living water. God was without a creation, BUT HE IS THE BEGINNING and the LAST. You make such small details imperative, when it's so simple.
But again John 14:6
Jesus said unto him, I am the way, the Truth, and the Light: no man comes to the Father but by me.
John 14:1
Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
John 12:48-49
He the rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last days.
For I have not spoken of myself: but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment what should say, and what I should speak.
John 6:41
The Jews Murmured at him, because he said, I AM(YAH) the bread which came down from heaven.
Jesus said he is Yah, YHWH. He that rejects the Word of God(YESHUA HAMASHIACH) rejects the father. You made an objection to the Word being Eternal, In the beginning was the Word, you said not eternity right? So then Why did YahWeh say he was the First and the Last? Don't dig deeper my brother, you will dig yourself a hole rather than a spring of living water. God was without a creation, BUT HE IS THE BEGINNING and the LAST. You make such small details imperative, when it's so simple.
You pretty much refuted yourself bro. You said Jesus Isn't to be Worshipped, then after I showed you who and what Jesus' Name means you switch it up. So you said Jesus is not Yahweh and Jesus is not to be Worshipped, so if Yahweh Changed his Name to Jesus Christ, that only means one thing right? Jesus Christ is God and Jesus Christ is to be worshipped.
WRONG HOMEY!!!! Jesus Chris it the only begotten son of Jehovah/Yahweh. NOT GOD. Jehovah/Yahweh had an angel come to mary in a dream and told her to name the baby Jesus Christ. Before that he did not go by Jesus. The Name Jesus had a beginning, The name Jehovah or Yahweh, had NO beginning
It means "He that causes to become." Definately different than Jesus Christ. Get a bible that uses proper modern english. I don't listen to thou shalt hath giveth ye something we can understand. and Who cares what Jesus name is in hebrew. I speak english and his name is Jesus. God's name is Jehovah or Yaweh. I do not worship Jesus, and that's exactly like he wanted it to be.
It means "He that causes to become." Definately different than Jesus Christ. Get a bible that uses proper modern english. I don't listen to thou shalt hath giveth ye something we can understand. and Who cares what Jesus name is in hebrew. I speak english and his name is Jesus. God's name is Jehovah or Yaweh. I do not worship Jesus, and that's exactly like he wanted it to be.
wow you remain ignorant, you talk as if English was spoken back then. I'm trying to give you a lesson by using the language they used. You're too caught up going by the American Way of speaking. LOL, but oh well, people take the time to study and be patient. Ignorance is not a bliss. If you don't even know the root language of the bible what use is it to argue what names mean?