I got another question for yall
- Thread starter Big E
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I have no doubt that you believe this. The problem I am presenting, though, is that in order to proceed with this theory, one has to overlook the most direct experience of consciousness. It is as if your friend Mike is in the room and you and a few other friends are sitting their discussing with each other what you think Mike would like to eat for lunch. All the while, Mike is sitting there saying, "hey guys. I'd like pizza. Let's get some pizza," yet you and your other friends continue to speculate on what Mike wants. So you start considering what he ate earlier in the week, what he doesn't like, what he's allergic to, etc. So you go on in this way while Mike is there trying to tell you directly.
Similarly, if you want to understand self, then you will take directly the consciousness. Trying to understand it by considering external factors is a waste of time.
Similarly, if you want to understand self, then you will take directly the consciousness. Trying to understand it by considering external factors is a waste of time.
LMAO
1. I don't believe anything, this is what the evidence shows
2. Your pizza example demonstrates nothing but sheer lunacy and inability to analyze data - what about all those cases when Mike wasn't thinking about pizza? You just ignore them, right? Could it be simply that Mike likes pizza and you know it so it is a mere coincidence with pretty high probability to occur? Have you ever done a proper statistical study on how often this happens? You haven't so you're just making things up and you should just shut up
1. I don't believe anything, this is what the evidence shows
2. Your pizza example demonstrates nothing but sheer lunacy and inability to analyze data - what about all those cases when Mike wasn't thinking about pizza? You just ignore them, right? Could it be simply that Mike likes pizza and you know it so it is a mere coincidence with pretty high probability to occur? Have you ever done a proper statistical study on how often this happens? You haven't so you're just making things up and you should just shut up
You have completely failed to understand the point of my analogy. It doesn't matter about all those cases when Mike isn't thinking about Pizza. That has absolutely nothing to do with the analogy. The point is that in that given situation, Mike is sitting there talking about his desire to eat pizza for lunch while you and other friends are trying to gather some external data (external to what Mike is ACTUALLY saying) in order to figure out what Mike probably wants.
Well, Ecclesiastes 9:5 says that the dead are concious of nothing. God made this planet with the intention that a perfect race of humans to inherit and prosper right? Then to me, it doesn't make sense that when we die we go to heaven or hell and such given the scripture I quoted. I believe that God has the ability to judge the heart. I believe he resurrects those that he judges to be worthy of it. Keep in mind tho, god is a perfect judge and can't lie or make a mistake so those he judges to be worthy, are, and those who he finds not worthy will just continue to be dead. Dead to me is to cease to exist. No immortal soul or consciousness, the opposite of life.
I believe that heaven is the habitat of god and the angels but not that of mankind, Hell on the other hand is merely the common grave of mankind. DEATH. Which like I said is to cease to exist. Why would a god that is the definition of love sentence a man to burn for eternity for 70 or 80 years of sin when he started out imperfect? Doesn't sound fair or loving to me and I refuse to believe that. I think people need to look at man like we do at worms or insects. When they die, we don't even consider them to have a "ghost" inside them that leaves. We are biological beings that do not have a spritual being inside. Humans were designed with the view of everlasting life here on earth. That's why we care if we die or not.
damnit you are slow.
he is saying that all the evidence is right there, coming out of mikes mouth, hes saying hed like pizza, and others in the room are pondering, thinking "he is allergic to beef, so no burgers, he hates ricotta cheese, so no lasagna, ect..." tryin to use outside observations to figure out what mike wants, while all they have to do is listen to mike, who the fuck cares about when they guess he wants pizza and doesnt, and who said this was science anyways. and you ask why i call people of this age narrow minded. you cant even wrap your mind around a simple metaphorical story because it is coming from a person who opposes your opinion
he is saying that all the evidence is right there, coming out of mikes mouth, hes saying hed like pizza, and others in the room are pondering, thinking "he is allergic to beef, so no burgers, he hates ricotta cheese, so no lasagna, ect..." tryin to use outside observations to figure out what mike wants, while all they have to do is listen to mike, who the fuck cares about when they guess he wants pizza and doesnt, and who said this was science anyways. and you ask why i call people of this age narrow minded. you cant even wrap your mind around a simple metaphorical story because it is coming from a person who opposes your opinion
2000 years of delusion, what a great gift