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Why does Colossians Say Jesus had the full Godhead bodily? Chapter 2:9. Brother's I cannot reveal the Holy Spirit, The Holy Spirit reveals itself. Meditate, pray always, and SEEK HIS FACE and you shall find it. Proverbs 3:5 Trust the Lord with all your heart, and Lean not unto your own understanding. Yehoshua HaMashiach, Yahweh's Salvation and Anointed One. Emmanuel=GOD IS WITH US. If Jesus is God is With Us, what does that make him? I gave this earlier so pray for knowledge and understanding, pray for revelation and meditate on these verses. John 1:1, John 1:14, 1st John 5:7. I give verses that are so easy to understand. Revelation is given by the Holy Spirit of God, not me. Ask HaShem, and He'll give you understanding.
 
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American thinking? Dude it's the bible which is the word of Jehovah/Yahweh, do you think he would let any of his word be altered between the hebrew times and now? That's where faith comes in and as long as you keep reading it in a language that you or no one else understands, you are not showing your faith that Jehovah GOD (not Jesus) inspired it to be written and that in every language it says the same thing. God wrote it!!!! It can't be changed by anyone but God. The thing that gets me is how you keep talking all this nonsense about names and meanings and keep trying to "prove" that Jesus is GOD, but no one is going to listen to someone who comes at them with another language. That's just retarded homie. You need to read the beginning of your bible where it talks about how it took Jehovah's name out and inserted LORD over 7000 times, or else remember that when you see LORD, to think Jehovah, not Jesus.
 
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You just said you didn't have to know the hebrew roots in order to understand the bible, Although I believe in this and the inspiration of the Holy Spirit which provides Revelation. I think it adds more to your understanding. I just gave a small portion and a small fraction of scriptures that back up Jesus Christ not only being the Begotten Son of Yahweh, But he himself is Yahweh in Flesh.

Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the Same yesterday, today, AND FOREVER.

Titus 2:10 says that God is our Savior, God is Yahweh right? So look at many verses that say Jesus is The Savior. If Yahweh is the only redeemer of his People why is YESHUA Jesus CHrist also Called Savior. Because they're one in the same.

Luke 2:11
2nd Peter 3:18

In Colossians 1:16 BY JESUS ALL THINGS WERE MADE BEFORE THE FOUNDATIONS I MAKE IT IMPERATIVE THAT YOU READ THESE SCRIPTURES! I will not post them, rather that you look for them yourselves.

All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made. John 1:3

Many Jehovah Witnesses will say Since he's the Son of Yahweh, Yahweh needed him along side to create the World. Then that would mean Yahweh is Powerless. WITHOUT JESUS CHRIST, YAHWEH couldn't make the world. WHY? Cause Jesus Christ, The Word of Yahweh, created the World.

Isaiah 41:4 I YAHWEH, the first, and with the last; I am he.

Jesus said, "Fear not; I am the first and the last:" Revelation 1:17

So in Isaiah 41:4 Yahweh says he's the First? So now Yahweh has a beginning? In revelation 1:17 Yeshua HaMashiach, The son of Yahweh, YAHWEH'S WORD IN FLESH(JOHN1:14) says the same thing. I wonder why???

Psalms 103:2-3 Says only God, YHWH can forgive sins
Mark 2:7 Who can forgive sins, but God?
Mark 2:5 Jesus Said the Son can forgive sins.

Oh No, what does this mean? Rhetorical dude

Read Matthew 9:18 A CERTAIN RULER WORSHIPPED JESUS CHRIST!
I thought Yahweh Alone is to be worshipped?

And again, when God bringeth in the firstbegotten Jesus into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. Hebrews 1:6

Yahweh Alone should receive worship in Heaven, if his Son isn't God he shouldn't even be worshipped. right?

YAH=I AM

John 8:58 Before Abraham I AM!

O Lord God, to whom vengeance belongeth; O God, to whom vengeance belongeth, shew thyself. Lift up thyself, thou judge of the earth: render a reward to the proud. Psalms 94:1-2

John 5:22 The Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son

But the Old Testament Speaks of Yahweh Being the Only Judge, so why should his Son also be Equal in terms of Judging the Earth? I'll let you think about that.

Finally I've saved Best for last. For those of you reading, this man, BIG-E, claims that JESUS CHRIST is not God, he says I am wrong. Ok Read

Philippians 2:5-11 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)
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5Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

6Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:


8And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

9Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

10That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

11And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

1st John 3:16 (Not John the Baptist, but the Epistle to JOhn)

Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.

Yahweh Laid his life for Us? Hmmm
 
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Look Big-E, this is as far as I'll go, if these scriptural verses, WHICH YOU SAID YOURSELF YAHWEH wrote, will you reject, then I'm done with you. I've given three posts explaining the Major points when it comes to the deity of Christ.
 

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a question stockton, if i dont accept jesus christ as my lord and savior shall i burn in hell eternally even if i lived like he lived?
 
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You've Asked me this Before and I'll tell you again. If I have preached to you the Gospel of Jesus Christ, if I gave you three sessions of lessons. If I'm unable to convert your or allow you to accept the message, The only condemnation or judgment that matters is God's Judgment and not mine.
 

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all you have to do is say yes or no, because as you know im forgetful of primitive belief systems.
but now im asking this question while being serious, i want to know where you stand.
 
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Hemp if I said Yes would that suffice? Or would you want me to show you scripture which would explain why I believe so? But if you want a simple Answer Yes. But now, Is this for the Time being or fully rejected it with no hopes of him either now or the future of ever accepting the message?
 
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You just said you didn't have to know the hebrew roots in order to understand the bible, Although I believe in this and the inspiration of the Holy Spirit which provides Revelation. I think it adds more to your understanding. I just gave a small portion and a small fraction of scriptures that back up Jesus Christ not only being the Begotten Son of Yahweh, But he himself is Yahweh in Flesh.


Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the Same yesterday, today, AND FOREVER.

Titus 2:10 says that God is our Savior, God is Yahweh right? So look at many verses that say Jesus is The Savior. If Yahweh is the only redeemer of his People why is YESHUA Jesus CHrist also Called Savior. Because they're one in the same.

Jesus is our savior because Jehovah/Yahweh gave him the option to be. Jesus did it because his father asked him to and the fact he loved his human creation.


Luke 2:11
2nd Peter 3:18

In Colossians 1:16 BY JESUS ALL THINGS WERE MADE BEFORE THE FOUNDATIONS I MAKE IT IMPERATIVE THAT YOU READ THESE SCRIPTURES! I will not post them, rather that you look for them yourselves.

All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made. John 1:3

Many Jehovah Witnesses will say Since he's the Son of Yahweh, Yahweh needed him along side to create the World. Then that would mean Yahweh is Powerless. WITHOUT JESUS CHRIST, YAHWEH couldn't make the world. WHY? Cause Jesus Christ, The Word of Yahweh, created the World.

I absolutely agree except Jehovah didn't create anything after Jesus/Michael because he gave that gift to his son and his son created all things to worship his father, not him.

Isaiah 41:4 I YAHWEH, the first, and with the last; I am he.

Jesus said, "Fear not; I am the first and the last:" Revelation 1:17

So in Isaiah 41:4 Yahweh says he's the First? So now Yahweh has a beginning? DO NOT TWIST MY WORDS!!!! I SAID NOTHING OF THE SORT, YOU DO NOT SEE ME DOING THAT TO YOU!!!
In revelation 1:17 Yeshua HaMashiach, The son of Yahweh, YAHWEH'S WORD IN FLESH(JOHN1:14) says the same thing. I wonder why???

Psalms 103:2-3 Says only God, YHWH can forgive sins
Mark 2:7 Who can forgive sins, but God?
Mark 2:5 Jesus Said the Son can forgive sins.

Dude, why act like the bible is some kind of Holy mystery? There isn't any code, this isn't the davinci code homie, read it like you see it and stop being like the dude from A Beautiful Mind that has his bible torn apart with pages taped to the wall trying to find some kind of secret code.

Oh No, what does this mean? Rhetorical dude

Read Matthew 9:18 A CERTAIN RULER WORSHIPPED JESUS CHRIST!
I thought Yahweh Alone is to be worshipped?

1Co 8:5,6 and Ps 82:1 says that there are many gods but only one true god. (That includes Jesus)

And again, when God bringeth in the firstbegotten Jesus into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. Hebrews 1:6

It says obeisance not worship. It is people like you that are the reason why there are so many different religions. You read what you want to hear, not what is truth.

Yahweh Alone should receive worship in Heaven, if his Son isn't God he shouldn't even be worshipped. right?

Read above statement.

YAH=I AM

John 8:58 Before Abraham I AM!

Do you really think God's name is "I am" LMAO
O Lord God, to whom vengeance belongeth; O God, to whom vengeance belongeth, shew thyself. Lift up thyself, thou judge of the earth: render a reward to the proud. Psalms 94:1-2

John 5:22 The Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son

But the Old Testament Speaks of Yahweh Being the Only Judge, so why should his Son also be Equal in terms of Judging the Earth? I'll let you think about that.

Because he has been given that privilege by Jehovah/Yahweh for willingly sacrificing himself.

Finally I've saved Best for last. For those of you reading, this man, BIG-E, claims that JESUS CHRIST is not God, he says I am wrong. Ok Read

Philippians 2:5-11 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)
Public Domain



5Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

6Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:


8And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

and what does this have to do with proving Jesus is God? and it a torture stake not cross, Starros means Stake not cross.

9Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
Exactly, what's your point?

10That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Bow in respect, not worship

11And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Exactly

1st John 3:16 (Not John the Baptist, but the Epistle to JOhn)

Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.

Yahweh Laid his life for Us? Hmmm

Where do you get yahweh from this scripture? It's talking about Jesus laying down his life, not Yahweh
 
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dude my understanding and study within the last year>your whole time reading the mistranslated version of the Jehovah Witness book of the Bible.
I will be back, although I said I wouldn't even answer you anymore, I'll keep up with you.

According to the Hebrew Language JEHOVAH in old testament, EXODUS, when he told Moses his name he said. YHWH=I am that I am, some even say EhYeh asher EhYeh=I will be that I will be. That's were I got YahWeh=I am. I more you post with ignorance, the more you show my points having validity brother.

As far as having different religions. Every apostate or false Christian sect, denomination or congregation, ALL START OFF WITH THE BIBLE, just like Jehovah Witnesses. Get at ya tomorrow homez
 
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I have shown no disrespect for you homez. What are you basing my study of the bible on? You don't know me or how much I read the bible. I'm telling you, you need a bible that is written in modern english. I am that I am is what the definition of Jehovah/Yahweh is, He that causes to become. His name is NOT "I am."
 

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I think its better to believe in something such as heaven and hell then to believe Imma just die and that's it because if I didn't believe... why the fuck would I be here livin' the shitty life? I'd just off myself if I knew there was nothin' afterwards to look forward to. Makes living the life easier... for me anyway... I guess knowing I'll be rewarded with heaven when I do die makes it worthwhile or somethin' like that.... shit, I dunno, its too hard to explain. Nevermind.
The point is, you have control to make it better. It's YOUR life. You have control and make the decisions.

In life, you really only have yourself to blame for the most part as far as what you did or didn't do or say during your lifetime.

I think when you die, that's it. I mean, who remembers life--or anything before they were born? Okay, nobody, just like I thought...it's the same thing. You are no longer in existence. It's like going to sleep, minus the dreams...only you wouldn't even be alive to "know." All consciousness is gone.
 
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Big-E said:
What are you basing my study of the bible on?
The Fact that you don't even want to understand hebrew, greek, Do you even know how the bible was translated? Do you know what the Textus Receptus is? Do you know the Tetragrammaton? Do you know the significance of the root language?

You don't know me or how much I read the bible.
I'm not here to argue, but to shed light. You've said Yahweh Changed Michael's Name to Jesus, I have yet to see where it says that in the bible. Then when I gave you the scripture about John 1:1 and John 1:14 that States The Word of Yahweh, JESUS CHRIST, was in the beginning and the Word was Yahweh. You then said, since the Word had a beginning he is not abosolete, therefore not God. Well then I gave you that verse from Isaiah, Where Yahweh himself said he was the First and the Last. So then if Yahweh said he is the first, by your understanding, he had a beginning or was created. Then you said I was twisting your words. When i sure as Hell didn't

The bible says the word was with him since the beginning, not always with him.
If Yahweh is the FIRST AND THE LAST, He is the Beginning and the End.

I'm telling you, you need a bible that is written in modern english.
What differences would it make? You think it would apply the same way to a man in China reading the bible in Cantonese or Mandarin? They don't use modern english, using modern english has nothing to do with it! If it makes you happy, everytime you see thou, thee, ye, or thy just change it to You, You, You and Your.

I am that I am is what the definition of Jehovah/Yahweh is, He that causes to become.
This is why I said you should take a class in Hebrew or at least take a Strong's Concordance of the Bible with the Original Greek or Hebrew. YAH=I AM, Eli=God

Here's a lesson for you Bro
Eli Yahu=Yahweh is my God, I AM is MY GOD, MY GOD is I AM.


Hemp said:
forgive stockton, hes just brainwashed.
smh

Look Big E, I'll just leave it at that. As long you as you accept jesus Christ as the Son of God, believe in his Life and resurrection, there is no need to argue. In the book of titus it says refrain from Vain Conversations, and at least you acknowledge God's Ransom and redemption through Jesus Christ. You also got the Son of God right. It suffices and "It's finished".
 
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The Fact that you don't even want to understand hebrew, greek, Do you even know how the bible was translated? Do you know what the Textus Receptus is? Do you know the Tetragrammaton? Do you know the significance of the root language?

I have the hebrew/greek interlinear translation that has the hebrew and greek words right above the english words. My bible was translated from Hebrew/Greek directly to english.

I'm not here to argue, but to shed light. You've said Yahweh Changed Michael's Name to Jesus, I have yet to see where it says that in the bible.

1Th 4:16 says that Jesus will return with the voice of an archangel. There is only one Archangel (Michael) as Archangel means prince of all angels.

Then when I gave you the scripture about John 1:1 and John 1:14 that States The Word of Yahweh, JESUS CHRIST, was in the beginning and the Word was Yahweh.

It says that the word was "WITH" Yahweh, not "IS" Yahweh.
You then said, since the Word had a beginning he is not abosolete, therefore not God. Well then I gave you that verse from Isaiah, Where Yahweh himself said he was the First and the Last. So then if Yahweh said he is the first, by your understanding, he had a beginning or was created. Then you said I was twisting your words. When i sure as Hell didn't.

Yahweh was first because before Jesus/Michael, there was just him for eternity, and existed within himself.

If Yahweh is the FIRST AND THE LAST, He is the Beginning and the End.
Exactly, He has no beginning or end and has and will always exist.

What differences would it make? You think it would apply the same way to a man in China reading the bible in Cantonese or Mandarin? They don't use modern english, using modern english has nothing to do with it! If it makes you happy, everytime you see thou, thee, ye, or thy just change it to You, You, You and Your.

The point I'm making with this is that some words in old english do not mean the same thing in modern english. If an man is chinese, he should read a modern chinese bible and that goes for any language. Read what language you understand and don't preach with a bible that no one on here understands. I don't need to know hebrew to know that the modern english bible is a perfect translation because it is inspired by Yahweh and he won't let it be twisted. That's where faith comes in.

This is why I said you should take a class in Hebrew or at least take a Strong's Concordance of the Bible with the Original Greek or Hebrew. YAH=I
AM, Eli=God

His name is Yahweh or Jehovah which means he who causes to become. his name is not yaheli

Here's a lesson for you Bro
Eli Yahu=Yahweh is my God, I AM is MY GOD, MY GOD is I AM.

Eliyahu is not God's name, god's name is translated from Hebrew and Greek (the original texts of the bible) as YHWH or JHVH or Yahweh or Jehovah, which the name as a whole, not by dissection, means "He that causes to become."


smh

Look Big E, I'll just leave it at that. As long you as you accept jesus Christ as the Son of God, believe in his Life and resurrection, there is no need to argue.

I do not want to argue, me discussing these things with you is fun homez. Thank you for inquiring of my beliefs, I have no problem sharing with you what I believe.

In the book of titus it says refrain from Vain Conversations, and at least you acknowledge God's Ransom and redemption through Jesus Christ. You also got the Son of God right. It suffices and "It's finished."

Good enough bro, no hard feelings k?
 
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I'm glad we can come to agreement on a few things, and try to understand one another. Starting off on equal ground is a very good way of learning the truth. AMEN?

Big E said:
1Th 4:16 says that Jesus will return with the voice of an archangel. There is only one Archangel (Michael) as Archangel means prince of all angels.
Ok notice in that Chapter, the 7th Trumpet sounds, This is the Last Trumpet sounded Before Jesus Christ comes back. Then the Voice of the Archangel(Michael) will prepare the World for his coming. REMEMBER in the book of Isaiah, he said there would be a voice in the desert that would prepare the Way of the Messiah? John the Baptist was that voice, just as Michael is the voice that will prepare Jesus Christ' Second Advent or return. see? Is John the baptist the voice of JESUS CHRIST?

Big E said:
It says that the word was "WITH" Yahweh, not "IS" Yahweh.
John 1:1 in it's entirety now ok?

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, AND THE WORD WAS GOD.

JOhn 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelled among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and Truth.

Here it says the Word was God and that God the Word dwelled among them.

Exactly, He has no beginning or end and has and will always exist.
Do you not see what I was trying to make you see? YAHWEH said He is the First and the Last, then in Revelation, JESUS CHRIST his Begotten Son, Says I am the First and the Last. This is a major hint.

Eliyahu is not God's name, god's name is translated from Hebrew and Greek (the original texts of the bible) as YHWH or JHVH or Yahweh or Jehovah, which the name as a whole, not by dissection, means "He that causes to become."
You're right EliYahu, is not God's name it's an expression, meaning My God is YAHWEH, YAHWEH MY GOD, MY GOD is I AM.
 
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I'm glad we can come to agreement on a few things, and try to understand one another. Starting off on equal ground is a very good way of learning the truth. AMEN?
Absolutely.



Ok notice in that Chapter, the 7th Trumpet sounds, This is the Last Trumpet sounded Before Jesus Christ comes back. Then the Voice of the Archangel(Michael) will prepare the World for his coming. REMEMBER in the book of Isaiah, he said there would be a voice in the desert that would prepare the Way of the Messiah? John the Baptist was that voice, just as Michael is the voice that will prepare Jesus Christ' Second Advent or return. see? Is John the baptist the voice of JESUS CHRIST?

John the baptist was the voice to prepare earth for his first coming, Jesus/Michael will be his own voice in the return.


John 1:1 in it's entirety now ok?

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, AND THE WORD WAS GOD
It says that THE WORD was "A" God, like I said, Jesus is a god only because men have made him a god, not because he is GOD, Yahweh said that there was and will be many god's but that HE as in Yahweh himself, is the only True GOD

JOhn 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelled among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and Truth.

Here it says the Word was God and that God the Word dwelled among them.

"The WORD was "A" GOD and the WORD, Dwelled with men.

Do you not see what I was trying to make you see? YAHWEH said He is the First and the Last,
It says that Yahweh is the ALPHA and OMEGA or Beginning and the End, Yahweh is the beginning because there was nothing before him except him until he created Michael/Jesus.

then in Revelation, JESUS CHRIST his Begotten Son, Says I am the First and the Last. This is a major hint.

Exactly, Jesus/Michael is the first, because he was the first creation by Yahweh and everything in existence has been created by him as gifts of worship to his Father Yahweh.

You're right EliYahu, is not God's name it's an expression, meaning My God is YAHWEH, YAHWEH MY GOD, MY GOD is I AM

The point I was trying to make with this is not not debate about what EliYahu means but what Yahweh means. Do me a favor and look up Jehovah or Yahweh in any dictionary and it will tell you that it is the sacred name of GOD. It was originally in the bible over 7,000 times. Knowing that, why do you or anybody for that matter have a version of the bible where it takes his name out?