For anyone who thinks Native Americans are worse off than African Americans.....
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too name some more..i think in the end if u compare black folx that are wealthy to natives that are wealthy, you will find there really is no comparison.. from rappers, athletes, and even those that are in political office's (conde rice, colin powell, etc) there are more african americans that are better off then natives. for one reason being that there arent many natives to begin with..that fact alone should be the "end all" of who is really better off because then the arguement would be, whats worse, being oppressed and poor, or being slaughtered... i know your probably going to say oppressed and poor is worse to hold what little steam this arguement of yours has.. but no matter, at least being poor and oppressed your still alive..and have the chance to regain those freedoms.. cant do much else when more then half of your population is killed off... movements like the civial rights, and UFW needed NUMBERS (i.e. PEOPLE) too make any noise.. thats why they were so successful. Natives cant make a big impact with such protests and movements becasue they dont have many to protest with.. cant make enough noise for the world to hear without enough people coming together to make that noise..
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too name some more..i think in the end if u compare black folx that are wealthy to natives that are wealthy, you will find there really is no comparison.. from rappers, athletes, and even those that are in political office's (conde rice, colin powell, etc) there are more african americans that are better off then natives. for one reason being that there arent many natives to begin with..that fact alone should be the "end all" of who is really better off because then the arguement would be, whats worse, being oppressed and poor, or being slaughtered... i know your probably going to say oppressed and poor is worse to hold what little steam this arguement of yours has.. but no matter, at least being poor and oppressed your still alive..and have the chance to regain those freedoms.. cant do much else when more then half of your population is killed off... movements like the civial rights, and UFW needed NUMBERS (i.e. PEOPLE) too make any noise.. thats why they were so successful. Natives cant make a big impact with such protests and movements becasue they dont have many to protest with.. cant make enough noise for the world to hear without enough people coming together to make that noise..
http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/income02/3yr_avg_race.html
Median income for Natives: 33,000
Median income for Blacks: 30,000.
Change in the last 2 years: +2% for Natives and, you guessed it, -3.0% for blacks.
A Rap Superstar or Basketball player getting a 50 million dollar contract, does not make up for the millions of blacks that are becoming worse and worse off. You cannot simply point to X amount of successful blacks, and be ignorant of the same amount of successful Natives, and yet use that as a measure for how good each race is doing.
Now that you cannot win with the raw numbers--the other stuff, I have already covered time and again. Here goes the refresher: You can fuck your way back into a population share. You CANNOT fuck your way back into knowing your culture, history, traditions and languages. It does not happen that way.
You need to stop thinking of things in terms of ability to protest and share political power, but rather, the raw numbers. And the raw numbers show that Blacks are not moving up the same way other races, INCLUDING NATIVES, are.
Its a big difference between owning a casino and employing 50 natives, and being a rapper or an actor and employing mostly Non-Black people. 50 Cent is about the only exception here with his 75 Black bodyguards he keeps around him at all times.
Vowel sound, friend. Not just vowels. Not 'AN Uniform', but 'A Uniform.'
Saying things like "a asshat" (especially with insults) are typical of one JeffK, or of anyone typing in this E-Cool style. Teh cool, I am le bored, We r frends, etc. All in the same boat.
Median income for Natives: 33,000
Median income for Blacks: 30,000.
Change in the last 2 years: +2% for Natives and, you guessed it, -3.0% for blacks.
A Rap Superstar or Basketball player getting a 50 million dollar contract, does not make up for the millions of blacks that are becoming worse and worse off. You cannot simply point to X amount of successful blacks, and be ignorant of the same amount of successful Natives, and yet use that as a measure for how good each race is doing.
Now that you cannot win with the raw numbers--the other stuff, I have already covered time and again. Here goes the refresher: You can fuck your way back into a population share. You CANNOT fuck your way back into knowing your culture, history, traditions and languages. It does not happen that way.
You need to stop thinking of things in terms of ability to protest and share political power, but rather, the raw numbers. And the raw numbers show that Blacks are not moving up the same way other races, INCLUDING NATIVES, are.
Its a big difference between owning a casino and employing 50 natives, and being a rapper or an actor and employing mostly Non-Black people. 50 Cent is about the only exception here with his 75 Black bodyguards he keeps around him at all times.
Vowel sound, friend. Not just vowels. Not 'AN Uniform', but 'A Uniform.'
Saying things like "a asshat" (especially with insults) are typical of one JeffK, or of anyone typing in this E-Cool style. Teh cool, I am le bored, We r frends, etc. All in the same boat.
ok.. now i kno its been said before, but natives are small in numbers, so if a few were to actually make a better living of course your gonna see a statistical change.. it may appear they are better off but i think your missing my point...
your right, i cant measure the wealth of an entire race by pointing at exceptions.. but how many natives are in those exceptions? (i.e poltitcs, sports etc) my point was to show that at least there are enough black folx that those exceptions are possible..
well.. by fucking your way into a population by other races, you are essentiallty watering down your culture, history, traditions and languages.. its happening already. think about it like this.. if a native woman is impregnated by a non-native, whos culture, history, traditions and language will they be raised to kno? wouldnt be the mothers..
the raw numbers show not that natives are ddoing better off but more of a sign of how small in numbers they are..for instance, it would take a handful of natives to effect your "raw numbers" as opposed to it taking hundreds and hundreds of black folx too effect it..
ive seen more folx then just 50 helping his people by employing them..in fact, i think its safe to say that nearly every rap concert ive been too, from the entire entourage too the people playing with the lighting were black folx..
ur right..
your right, i cant measure the wealth of an entire race by pointing at exceptions.. but how many natives are in those exceptions? (i.e poltitcs, sports etc) my point was to show that at least there are enough black folx that those exceptions are possible..
well.. by fucking your way into a population by other races, you are essentiallty watering down your culture, history, traditions and languages.. its happening already. think about it like this.. if a native woman is impregnated by a non-native, whos culture, history, traditions and language will they be raised to kno? wouldnt be the mothers..
the raw numbers show not that natives are ddoing better off but more of a sign of how small in numbers they are..for instance, it would take a handful of natives to effect your "raw numbers" as opposed to it taking hundreds and hundreds of black folx too effect it..
ive seen more folx then just 50 helping his people by employing them..in fact, i think its safe to say that nearly every rap concert ive been too, from the entire entourage too the people playing with the lighting were black folx..
ur right..
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`i think in the end if u compare black folx that are wealthy to natives that are wealthy, you will find there really is no comparison.. from rappers, athletes, and even those that are in political office's (conde rice, colin powell, etc) there are more african americans that are better off then natives.'
You're talking about a situation where you have 100 Natives where X are making close to the median, and a situation where 1 Black is making 20 million dollars and the rest don't have shit.
When you have MORE people that are famous, yet the RAW NUMBERS show you're the WORST OFF IN THE COUNTRY.....thats a BAD THING! That means there IS NO Black Middle Class, and it means there's a whole SHITLOAD of Blacks in poverty for every ONE successful Black millionaire you see.
Blacks are the American Lotto ticket race. Not Natives. Casinos have went a long way for the exact same reason I just stated: they hire their own, because a casino is going to be a casino. But Blacks hire whoever can keep them having money, usually, WHITE PEOPLE.
Don't get me fucked up--I'm not calling Black people stupid or lazy or anything like that. I'm just pointing out the reality. And the reality sure as fuck seems to be that Blacks are cherry-picked to be successful, while everyone else is left in the cold thinking they might be next, but sadly...most never are.
That is what a Middle Class is for. The poorer you are, the LESS LIKELY it is that your culture, history, etc that will be dominant. Its always going to be that culture that has the most family, etc. that dominates.
As far as `raised to know', as in, how they act, that's not the same thing. The knowledge is there for them to learn. For Blacks, it is not. It doesn't exist. If it did, I wouldn't need to talk about SWAHILI so much because we'd already know what language we originally spoke.
You can pop it however you wanna pop it, but I already covered this with the percentages.
There's 4 million natives in this country. Thats not a few hundred here and there--that's a movement. And that movement is adding money and income to their circles, while Blacks, despite the explosion of Hip-Hop and Black culture, are NOT.
Yeah, working for $50 and a bottle of drank per night. And then what? Where is their health insurance? Were is their worker's comp? Where is the safe work environment? Where are their tips?
I'm sorry, but it don't compare. It never compares. Every other racial group is moving up but Blacks. True story, no matter how much one tries to get around it.
`i think in the end if u compare black folx that are wealthy to natives that are wealthy, you will find there really is no comparison.. from rappers, athletes, and even those that are in political office's (conde rice, colin powell, etc) there are more african americans that are better off then natives.'
You're talking about a situation where you have 100 Natives where X are making close to the median, and a situation where 1 Black is making 20 million dollars and the rest don't have shit.
When you have MORE people that are famous, yet the RAW NUMBERS show you're the WORST OFF IN THE COUNTRY.....thats a BAD THING! That means there IS NO Black Middle Class, and it means there's a whole SHITLOAD of Blacks in poverty for every ONE successful Black millionaire you see.
Blacks are the American Lotto ticket race. Not Natives. Casinos have went a long way for the exact same reason I just stated: they hire their own, because a casino is going to be a casino. But Blacks hire whoever can keep them having money, usually, WHITE PEOPLE.
Don't get me fucked up--I'm not calling Black people stupid or lazy or anything like that. I'm just pointing out the reality. And the reality sure as fuck seems to be that Blacks are cherry-picked to be successful, while everyone else is left in the cold thinking they might be next, but sadly...most never are.
That is what a Middle Class is for. The poorer you are, the LESS LIKELY it is that your culture, history, etc that will be dominant. Its always going to be that culture that has the most family, etc. that dominates.
As far as `raised to know', as in, how they act, that's not the same thing. The knowledge is there for them to learn. For Blacks, it is not. It doesn't exist. If it did, I wouldn't need to talk about SWAHILI so much because we'd already know what language we originally spoke.
You can pop it however you wanna pop it, but I already covered this with the percentages.
There's 4 million natives in this country. Thats not a few hundred here and there--that's a movement. And that movement is adding money and income to their circles, while Blacks, despite the explosion of Hip-Hop and Black culture, are NOT.
Yeah, working for $50 and a bottle of drank per night. And then what? Where is their health insurance? Were is their worker's comp? Where is the safe work environment? Where are their tips?
I'm sorry, but it don't compare. It never compares. Every other racial group is moving up but Blacks. True story, no matter how much one tries to get around it.
I think most of you are not taken into consideration that there wasnt that many native americans in north america to start with (pre european colonialization)..So the difference of native american population past and present maybe smaller than most people believe (according to what dirty shoez is saying), Hence his belief that there wasn't a significant expansion nor a decrease in native american population across the years that can rival the amount of murdered african slaves.(again im basing this on what dirtyshoez implyed)
Another thing is he is right about the culture aspect, its quite amazing that most african americans dont know what part of africa they are from, just recently oprah had to hire a fuckin genetisist to find out what region of africa shes from, now thats a shame, its a shame that African americans cant be Kenyan-american, or Ethiopian American instead of just "african american"..Imagine asking your parents, "Where did our family orignate" and them answering, " I dunno, somewhere in europe??" and africa is way bigger then europe and the genetic variation within africa is the greatest than any other continent, Africans are a very diverse people so that type of information is important for ones identity..
Although i dont agree with Dirty's argument completely i acknowledge that is not a stretch..
Another thing is he is right about the culture aspect, its quite amazing that most african americans dont know what part of africa they are from, just recently oprah had to hire a fuckin genetisist to find out what region of africa shes from, now thats a shame, its a shame that African americans cant be Kenyan-american, or Ethiopian American instead of just "african american"..Imagine asking your parents, "Where did our family orignate" and them answering, " I dunno, somewhere in europe??" and africa is way bigger then europe and the genetic variation within africa is the greatest than any other continent, Africans are a very diverse people so that type of information is important for ones identity..
Although i dont agree with Dirty's argument completely i acknowledge that is not a stretch..
I used that as an example of population.. i dont know really how to explain too u the underlying fact that u have to keep in mind that it takes about only a quarter of natives to move those "raw numbers" as compared to black folx because there are more black folx as compared to Natives...
it would take 1 out 5 people in group A too move a statistic compared to group B which need 2 out of 10 to make that same move in "raw numbers" why does it take 2 people in group B as compared to those in group A? because group B has twice as many people.. so in fact, since there are far less natives then blacks, the numbers should be a lot higher scince there are far less..
well ive seen a good amount of white folk work for a casino but yeah they do higher fellow natives. but when it comes too accounting, public relations, advertiseing and all more then half the inner workings.. they're white. Im not saying thats at all casinos but probably a good number of them..
well i wouldnt say cherry picked when it comes to athletics. thats more of a developed skill, maybe for television and politics but i cant make that assumption. I do notice that on like commercials and some movies they will have 1 token black person and everyone else white.. looks very much staged.
i agree 100% altho there maybe exceptions here and there but i cant think of any.
if u take into consideration that natives were the ones whos lands were invaded and here we are now all speaking a euro language and the native tounges are reserved (no pun) for elders. The younger generation of natives dont kno their tougnes either. like i said before there were entire sub languages that were lost.. i have yet too meet any native who knows there original tounge. years ago i tried to do reasearch on where im decended from so i could go back and learn the language, but scince my grandmother (full blooded chipewa) married a white man and im mixed, they wouldnt allow me to learn it.. yeah i could visit the rez if i wanted but i cant own any land out there (kansas)
i agree with you on that. Natives are taking care of their own. that can possibly be attributed to the small numbers. The more people u have to organize and look out after the harder it is to do. As far as hip hop and "black" culture, Natives have the stereotypical stigma of the feather and leather brim with moccasins and warpaint with bow's and arrows. when people think of black folx now they dont think of tribes men.. natives havent been able to come into any new culture or evlove much from that.
that can be said for many diffrent proffessions that span many diffrent races..
im not saying that they are.. i never once said that what has been done to black folx is minor or irrelevent but your here trying compare what happend to black folx to a people who were 1) here first 2nd)slaughtered off 3) remaing forced from their lands into (reserved areas) and 4) STILL havent been able to control much outside of a reservation besides car dealerships and some casinos.. bigg woop.
it would take 1 out 5 people in group A too move a statistic compared to group B which need 2 out of 10 to make that same move in "raw numbers" why does it take 2 people in group B as compared to those in group A? because group B has twice as many people.. so in fact, since there are far less natives then blacks, the numbers should be a lot higher scince there are far less..
well ive seen a good amount of white folk work for a casino but yeah they do higher fellow natives. but when it comes too accounting, public relations, advertiseing and all more then half the inner workings.. they're white. Im not saying thats at all casinos but probably a good number of them..
well i wouldnt say cherry picked when it comes to athletics. thats more of a developed skill, maybe for television and politics but i cant make that assumption. I do notice that on like commercials and some movies they will have 1 token black person and everyone else white.. looks very much staged.
i agree 100% altho there maybe exceptions here and there but i cant think of any.
if u take into consideration that natives were the ones whos lands were invaded and here we are now all speaking a euro language and the native tounges are reserved (no pun) for elders. The younger generation of natives dont kno their tougnes either. like i said before there were entire sub languages that were lost.. i have yet too meet any native who knows there original tounge. years ago i tried to do reasearch on where im decended from so i could go back and learn the language, but scince my grandmother (full blooded chipewa) married a white man and im mixed, they wouldnt allow me to learn it.. yeah i could visit the rez if i wanted but i cant own any land out there (kansas)
i agree with you on that. Natives are taking care of their own. that can possibly be attributed to the small numbers. The more people u have to organize and look out after the harder it is to do. As far as hip hop and "black" culture, Natives have the stereotypical stigma of the feather and leather brim with moccasins and warpaint with bow's and arrows. when people think of black folx now they dont think of tribes men.. natives havent been able to come into any new culture or evlove much from that.
that can be said for many diffrent proffessions that span many diffrent races..
im not saying that they are.. i never once said that what has been done to black folx is minor or irrelevent but your here trying compare what happend to black folx to a people who were 1) here first 2nd)slaughtered off 3) remaing forced from their lands into (reserved areas) and 4) STILL havent been able to control much outside of a reservation besides car dealerships and some casinos.. bigg woop.
This is an advantage, not a disadvantage. I still have no clue what you're getting at here. A Black man would have to make almost 10x as much as a Native to be able to help out the same amount of people with his wealth. That is a HUGE discrepancy, and HINDERS Blacks ability to move up.
White people run that shit everywhere. The point is, when a rapper starts a clothing line or starts some luxury watch line, like a stupid fuck, thats ALL Non-Black people working there. One of the few exceptions is Restaurants, and even then, they're usually Upscale (see: For White People) like Puffy's restaurant.
Blacks are cherry-picked to be successful. There are people playing street hoops right now that would shit all over some of these Non-Black people playing right now, but don't have the economic or cultural means to make their way to the game.
Black people have to be SUPERSTARS *BEFORE* they get noticed. Whites, for example, just have to be above-average to get the same amount of attention. BUYING your way into a school and being a walk-on is something only rich people can do. You can't do that when you have to work your ass off for scholarships FIRST, only to then have to hope and pray that you can actually MAKE the team.
You don't get around much. You SERIOUSLY do not. Almost every native I've ever met--And I live in Washington, I've met my share--can speak at least SOMETHING, or at the VERY LEAST, THE OPTION IS THERE TO LEARN THE LANGUAGE.
Don't talk to me about NEGLECT or being "for elders"; talk to me about the languages flat-out NOT EXISTING.
Sounds like a personal problem. At least you know who you are and where you come from without having to spend tens of thousands of dollars to research it.
And yet they are still making money and moving up. Public perception means little when you are making steady progress.
You said: "ive seen more folx then just 50 helping his people by employing them..in fact, i think its safe to say that nearly every rap concert ive been too, from the entire entourage too the people playing with the lighting were black folx.. "
Entourages don't get pensions and salaries. They get cash and backstage passes.
Moving up is moving up. That is what it all boils down to. This is a capitalist society. It is all about the dollar bill. Raw Population figures DO NOT MATTER when you still have CULTURE, TRADITIONS and HISTORY, especially when the shit you are talking about happened hundreds of years ago. You act as if Natives not fucking is somehow everyone else's problem. Maybe thats just their culture and how they get down.
As far as land goes......What use is settled land if you don't own it? You'd rather see Natives scatted around in ghettos, not owning shit and not getting checks from the government, instead of OWNING and RUNNING reservations and having some semblence of autonomy? You've gotta be shitting me!
White people run that shit everywhere. The point is, when a rapper starts a clothing line or starts some luxury watch line, like a stupid fuck, thats ALL Non-Black people working there. One of the few exceptions is Restaurants, and even then, they're usually Upscale (see: For White People) like Puffy's restaurant.
Blacks are cherry-picked to be successful. There are people playing street hoops right now that would shit all over some of these Non-Black people playing right now, but don't have the economic or cultural means to make their way to the game.
Black people have to be SUPERSTARS *BEFORE* they get noticed. Whites, for example, just have to be above-average to get the same amount of attention. BUYING your way into a school and being a walk-on is something only rich people can do. You can't do that when you have to work your ass off for scholarships FIRST, only to then have to hope and pray that you can actually MAKE the team.
You don't get around much. You SERIOUSLY do not. Almost every native I've ever met--And I live in Washington, I've met my share--can speak at least SOMETHING, or at the VERY LEAST, THE OPTION IS THERE TO LEARN THE LANGUAGE.
Don't talk to me about NEGLECT or being "for elders"; talk to me about the languages flat-out NOT EXISTING.
Sounds like a personal problem. At least you know who you are and where you come from without having to spend tens of thousands of dollars to research it.
And yet they are still making money and moving up. Public perception means little when you are making steady progress.
You said: "ive seen more folx then just 50 helping his people by employing them..in fact, i think its safe to say that nearly every rap concert ive been too, from the entire entourage too the people playing with the lighting were black folx.. "
Entourages don't get pensions and salaries. They get cash and backstage passes.
Moving up is moving up. That is what it all boils down to. This is a capitalist society. It is all about the dollar bill. Raw Population figures DO NOT MATTER when you still have CULTURE, TRADITIONS and HISTORY, especially when the shit you are talking about happened hundreds of years ago. You act as if Natives not fucking is somehow everyone else's problem. Maybe thats just their culture and how they get down.
As far as land goes......What use is settled land if you don't own it? You'd rather see Natives scatted around in ghettos, not owning shit and not getting checks from the government, instead of OWNING and RUNNING reservations and having some semblence of autonomy? You've gotta be shitting me!
ahh shit, here we go...
dude, you have got to be really retarded to be thinking some bullshit like that, seriously. you might want to think that over. we, "the Native Americans", were here first, so why would we, the "Natives Americans" need to be traveled to our land by boats when we're already here.
as much as i might agree with that last statement you've posted, that probably isn't the best way to put your opinion on this subject matter. you're more likely just trying to get attention or something by stateing something like that. because that last part had absolutely nothing to do with this topic. so, please grab a hammer and slam your self in the nuts.
why should anyone else get any of that type of welfare when they came aboard after we were already here first? do you suggest they want justice for coming here from their original land? you might be shocked when you find out that alot of the Native people in the U-S-of A do not know their own language, due to the white man beating it out of us for speaking it. learn about it. them motherfuckers beat us when we spoke our own language so that we wouldn't speak it again, and they cut off ouf long hair.
who gives a shit if you know any, "rich indians", or not. that is not the topic. although i do know PLENTY of wealthy Natives. but that's besides the point. also who gives a fuck if you know some "dope friend Natives"? there are plenty more dope fiends of other races then there are in the Native race. since our race is the lowest. so i ask, "what is the point of what you stated?". were you just trying to be sarcastic. i hope so. otherwise you're a dipshit for saying some shit like that in a thread like this.
Dirty Shoez, please stop talking about my people like you know how we lived and what not. you have no idea and should not speak upon it like you know. you can't learn fucking everything from the books you read.
dude, you have got to be really retarded to be thinking some bullshit like that, seriously. you might want to think that over. we, "the Native Americans", were here first, so why would we, the "Natives Americans" need to be traveled to our land by boats when we're already here.
as much as i might agree with that last statement you've posted, that probably isn't the best way to put your opinion on this subject matter. you're more likely just trying to get attention or something by stateing something like that. because that last part had absolutely nothing to do with this topic. so, please grab a hammer and slam your self in the nuts.
why should anyone else get any of that type of welfare when they came aboard after we were already here first? do you suggest they want justice for coming here from their original land? you might be shocked when you find out that alot of the Native people in the U-S-of A do not know their own language, due to the white man beating it out of us for speaking it. learn about it. them motherfuckers beat us when we spoke our own language so that we wouldn't speak it again, and they cut off ouf long hair.
who gives a shit if you know any, "rich indians", or not. that is not the topic. although i do know PLENTY of wealthy Natives. but that's besides the point. also who gives a fuck if you know some "dope friend Natives"? there are plenty more dope fiends of other races then there are in the Native race. since our race is the lowest. so i ask, "what is the point of what you stated?". were you just trying to be sarcastic. i hope so. otherwise you're a dipshit for saying some shit like that in a thread like this.
Dirty Shoez, please stop talking about my people like you know how we lived and what not. you have no idea and should not speak upon it like you know. you can't learn fucking everything from the books you read.
A dollar is a dollar. You have not backed up this statement whatsoever. Native Americans operate/live in a commerical/socioeconomic environment that is 10 times less costly/productive? Damn. They must have it good.
So you're saying the average Black man is hindered in advancement because he has to split each dollar ten ways for the betterment of his race/community? This sounds very much like economic collectivism DS...that's pretty close to socialism.
Don't have the cultural means to play basketball? Do they talk funny? Are they not "initiated" in basketball lore?
So if the child of a rich black man buys his way into a school...what is that?
I don't speak Spanish, Norweigan, or Russian, and I could give two shits. Why mandate Swahili on Black folks when they might not have even spoken it?
In the popular mind, yes. Does that mean the languages are dead? No. On the same token you have whole tribes and languages which are completely lost.
Not true. Many entourage members are put on the artists payroll or by the artist's employer. In addition, tax-free, unreported cash could in many cases be better than pensions or salaries.
P.S. You think Ludacris gets a BMG pension or a salary? Neither. They are given their own money to invest as they please, and that money is based on record sales, merchandise, and concerts after the record companies take their cut.
Pensions, salaries, profit sharing plans, and any other methods of pay are simply different ways to compensate employees. Turning an hourly worker into a salaried worker does not raise his living conditions, state of mind, and personal relevance.
Tadou, you fucking mental midget. HUGE proportions of native populations
were eradicated, i.e. they are GONE. It's not that they "didn't get down" enough, it's that they simply don't exist. History, cultures, and language have been and are lost forever. You do not see this phenomenon in Africa on anywhere near the scale it happened on the North American continent.
This actually happens tadou. It's happening as we speak. The Indians apparently aren't using their HUGE advantages correctly. You need to school them personally.
1. Your people are nearly wiped out because you didn't fuck enough
2. Use your casino to enrich the lives of every single Native American you know, instead of just spending it on firewater and doing crazy doggystyle porno shit with your squaws.
So you're saying the average Black man is hindered in advancement because he has to split each dollar ten ways for the betterment of his race/community? This sounds very much like economic collectivism DS...that's pretty close to socialism.
Don't have the cultural means to play basketball? Do they talk funny? Are they not "initiated" in basketball lore?
So if the child of a rich black man buys his way into a school...what is that?
I don't speak Spanish, Norweigan, or Russian, and I could give two shits. Why mandate Swahili on Black folks when they might not have even spoken it?
In the popular mind, yes. Does that mean the languages are dead? No. On the same token you have whole tribes and languages which are completely lost.
Not true. Many entourage members are put on the artists payroll or by the artist's employer. In addition, tax-free, unreported cash could in many cases be better than pensions or salaries.
P.S. You think Ludacris gets a BMG pension or a salary? Neither. They are given their own money to invest as they please, and that money is based on record sales, merchandise, and concerts after the record companies take their cut.
Pensions, salaries, profit sharing plans, and any other methods of pay are simply different ways to compensate employees. Turning an hourly worker into a salaried worker does not raise his living conditions, state of mind, and personal relevance.
Tadou, you fucking mental midget. HUGE proportions of native populations
were eradicated, i.e. they are GONE. It's not that they "didn't get down" enough, it's that they simply don't exist. History, cultures, and language have been and are lost forever. You do not see this phenomenon in Africa on anywhere near the scale it happened on the North American continent.
This actually happens tadou. It's happening as we speak. The Indians apparently aren't using their HUGE advantages correctly. You need to school them personally.
1. Your people are nearly wiped out because you didn't fuck enough
2. Use your casino to enrich the lives of every single Native American you know, instead of just spending it on firewater and doing crazy doggystyle porno shit with your squaws.
now, i don't know if you're speaking on specifics or just generalizing on that. because i know plenty plenty plenty of Natives doing the opposite of that. they might not be the center of attention like a 50 cent or a Jim Carey, but our people are still doing thangs. just not alot of people don't know or don't recognize it yet. but i'm not getting bent out of shape out of what you stated, im just saying, is all.