For anyone who thinks Native Americans are worse off than African Americans.....
- Thread starter Dirty Shoez
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uhm.. i think thats an argueable fact.. u fail to realize that entire villages// towns were destroyed by diseases scince colombus arrived. i think you have a problem with someone saying natives had it worse off because you feel its an oversight of the struggles slaves had.. (((not including the fact many natives were turned into slaves also))) but it isnt.. both races were fucked royally..
lets put your statement into perspective real quick.. entire boat loads of slaves would have had to have been sunk every other hour for months on end to come within a quarter of the amount of deaths suffered by natives at the had of euro diseases...i remember hearing in school that it took roughly 24 months for the natives in what is now the state of washington to be dwindled to a 10% population.. sounds familiar, but, this an arguement you cannot win because your facts are twisted..
lets put your statement into perspective real quick.. entire boat loads of slaves would have had to have been sunk every other hour for months on end to come within a quarter of the amount of deaths suffered by natives at the had of euro diseases...i remember hearing in school that it took roughly 24 months for the natives in what is now the state of washington to be dwindled to a 10% population.. sounds familiar, but, this an arguement you cannot win because your facts are twisted..
Sometimes I wonder. I really do. Leaps and bounds does not even begin to describe how far I am out in front of 97% of the Siccness community. Maybe more.
Indians with reservations, casinos and reparations, and you've got people sitting here comparing them and saying they're worse off than those with no reservations, no government payments, no common languages, no history, no culture, no anything. It is truly incredible.
We'll see what I can do when I have more free time.
Indians with reservations, casinos and reparations, and you've got people sitting here comparing them and saying they're worse off than those with no reservations, no government payments, no common languages, no history, no culture, no anything. It is truly incredible.
We'll see what I can do when I have more free time.
Yes. Then again, Liberals, Facts and Race don't all mix, so I could see why you would think I've lost it, spreading all these `blatant' truths. The only problem is that the people are unable to falsify them. I have yet to see anyone post up any numbers of their own. They are simply mouth-talking and crying.
Friend, you know you want to believe these things. They are good ammo. You are a master of argument, and recently you have been working hard to move more towards the center. This will help you with that, because it has nothing, really, to do with "personal opinion". It begins with FACTS, and goes from there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas
It is too hard to post the chart here, but basically, if you combined the amount of Mestizos (of which there is a HUGE number in Latin America) and Natives, there are still VERY substantial numbers of them. Tens of millions of them, for those of you who are somewhat familiar with the amount of people in the respective countries. If not, you will need to cross-reference.
I would love to see a stat that says there were tens of millions of Natives inhabiting North and South America in the 1500's.
The fact is, that that argument is a failed one. There is a huge difference between NO GROWTH and being EXTERMINATED.
I will leave the "many natives" were slaves thing alone, because it is pure ignorance. And for the wiping out villages thing...it really doesn't matter. Their numbers did not DECREASE overall; only the population share did. See above.
And your perception is still completely fucked up. You keep repeating this percentage shit because you know that with RAW NUMBERS.....you lose every time.
There are 2.7 million Native Americans in the United States. I want you to sit here and tell me, first of all, how many we started with, and second of all, how many were killed by disease.
Then will laugh while embarassing you with how many MORE slaves were dumped into the ocean or just executed in the same time span.
Why should you have to begin? "i think thats an argueable fact.."--these were your words, sans any kind of facts. So let us see your proof, or at the very least, a basis.
Friend, you know you want to believe these things. They are good ammo. You are a master of argument, and recently you have been working hard to move more towards the center. This will help you with that, because it has nothing, really, to do with "personal opinion". It begins with FACTS, and goes from there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas
It is too hard to post the chart here, but basically, if you combined the amount of Mestizos (of which there is a HUGE number in Latin America) and Natives, there are still VERY substantial numbers of them. Tens of millions of them, for those of you who are somewhat familiar with the amount of people in the respective countries. If not, you will need to cross-reference.
I would love to see a stat that says there were tens of millions of Natives inhabiting North and South America in the 1500's.
The fact is, that that argument is a failed one. There is a huge difference between NO GROWTH and being EXTERMINATED.
I will leave the "many natives" were slaves thing alone, because it is pure ignorance. And for the wiping out villages thing...it really doesn't matter. Their numbers did not DECREASE overall; only the population share did. See above.
And your perception is still completely fucked up. You keep repeating this percentage shit because you know that with RAW NUMBERS.....you lose every time.
There are 2.7 million Native Americans in the United States. I want you to sit here and tell me, first of all, how many we started with, and second of all, how many were killed by disease.
Then will laugh while embarassing you with how many MORE slaves were dumped into the ocean or just executed in the same time span.
Why should you have to begin? "i think thats an argueable fact.."--these were your words, sans any kind of facts. So let us see your proof, or at the very least, a basis.
tadou, do you read half the shit you type? i dont think u understand the FACT that you sound like a fucking moron...
"I will leave the "many natives" were slaves thing alone, because it is pure ignorance. And for the wiping out villages thing...it really doesn't matter. Their numbers did not DECREASE overall; only the population share did."
the many natives were slaves THING? THING? wow u need a fuckin reality check faggot. somone needs to pummel your faggot ass into the pavement..id be happy to.
then u wanna talk about ignorance? fucking comedy...
the whole wiping out villages THING? ROFL again u talk about this shit like its just somthing minescule...then u continue to say it doesnt even matter....
well guess what u fucking twat...if none of that shit matters then all the slaves you're crying about being thrown overbaord like rotten meat DOESNT FUCKING MATTER....maybe you dont understand or see the irony in the statements you make...and who the fuck do you think you are, to say what matters...and what doesnt, listen up faggot, you are NO ONE, ESPECIALLY NO ONE to say what DOES and DOES NOT matter...get a fucking clue u fucking internet guru get the fuck outside i think u have spent too many hours in front of your computer.
then u say this.....
"Leaps and bounds does not even begin to describe how far I am out in front of 97% of the Siccness community. Maybe more."
and i will respond with, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHHAHAH
thank you for continuing to support my point that you are an arrogant dumb son of a bitch that thinks hes better then everyone else or that his opinion matter more then anyone elses here....you sir, are fucking comedy. i pitty you and your ignorance.
get hit by a fucking train. the world would be better without ppl like you. period.
"I will leave the "many natives" were slaves thing alone, because it is pure ignorance. And for the wiping out villages thing...it really doesn't matter. Their numbers did not DECREASE overall; only the population share did."
the many natives were slaves THING? THING? wow u need a fuckin reality check faggot. somone needs to pummel your faggot ass into the pavement..id be happy to.
then u wanna talk about ignorance? fucking comedy...
the whole wiping out villages THING? ROFL again u talk about this shit like its just somthing minescule...then u continue to say it doesnt even matter....
well guess what u fucking twat...if none of that shit matters then all the slaves you're crying about being thrown overbaord like rotten meat DOESNT FUCKING MATTER....maybe you dont understand or see the irony in the statements you make...and who the fuck do you think you are, to say what matters...and what doesnt, listen up faggot, you are NO ONE, ESPECIALLY NO ONE to say what DOES and DOES NOT matter...get a fucking clue u fucking internet guru get the fuck outside i think u have spent too many hours in front of your computer.
then u say this.....
"Leaps and bounds does not even begin to describe how far I am out in front of 97% of the Siccness community. Maybe more."
and i will respond with, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHHAHAH
thank you for continuing to support my point that you are an arrogant dumb son of a bitch that thinks hes better then everyone else or that his opinion matter more then anyone elses here....you sir, are fucking comedy. i pitty you and your ignorance.
get hit by a fucking train. the world would be better without ppl like you. period.
Lol, you're a fuckin loser dude. You're about to shit because I come on your precious Internet, your one place of solitude from a world that fucks and bitch slaps you every day.....and I ruin it for you.
Go quit your job or something. Leave the country or something. Grab a fuckin college degree or something. Find something to turn around this obviously fucked-up life you're leading. Cuz Right now, you just acting like a little bitch. Real talk.
Go quit your job or something. Leave the country or something. Grab a fuckin college degree or something. Find something to turn around this obviously fucked-up life you're leading. Cuz Right now, you just acting like a little bitch. Real talk.
This is all great information and good arguing, but let's get to the bottom of it. No one can go back in time and correct the errors of the past. So rather than dwelling on the injustices you or your ethnic group has encountered, you should focus on what you can do to prosper in today's world. The good ole U S of A provides the chance for everyone to get a piece of the pie, but you must accept American ideologies and assimilate into mainstream society in order to do so.
Essentially, the only culture you need to know is the American one.
Essentially, the only culture you need to know is the American one.
Like i already said:
"You're about to shit because I come on your precious Internet, your one place of solitude from a world that fucks and bitch slaps you every day.....and I ruin it for you."
`Being' on the internet isn't the point. HIDING on the internet is. You come on here to COWER and HIDE, and you don't like it when the spotlight is on you or someone is being a big meanie head. You want everybody to be E-Friends, and I think that shit is comedy.
"You're about to shit because I come on your precious Internet, your one place of solitude from a world that fucks and bitch slaps you every day.....and I ruin it for you."
`Being' on the internet isn't the point. HIDING on the internet is. You come on here to COWER and HIDE, and you don't like it when the spotlight is on you or someone is being a big meanie head. You want everybody to be E-Friends, and I think that shit is comedy.