Atheism quotes
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You dont have to be depressed I guess.
If we are going on the whos killed because someone believes different thats all through history. Jews v.s. Muslims.
@Red Sin- Satanisits believe that Satan is their God though, correct. I think they count in knowing that God exists they just view him as an enemy.
If we are going on the whos killed because someone believes different thats all through history. Jews v.s. Muslims.
@Red Sin- Satanisits believe that Satan is their God though, correct. I think they count in knowing that God exists they just view him as an enemy.
Actually most Satanists are Atheists. They believe there is no afterlife, therefore no heaven or hell and that all satisfaction must be attained here on earth during your lifetime.(I've read the Satanic Bible) There are different types of Satanists though, but for the most part most of them are Atheists. I think Sixx has a relative who is a Satanist, so he could probably shed more light on that.
No you have freewill to do with aas you please. God knows the decisions you make. Its up to you because God Knows its your life. You make the choices and then the after effect is based on the decision you make. God knew what you were going to be. He gave you the choice to do with your life as you see fit.
The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason.
-- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
The orthodox faith painted God as a revengeful being, and yet people talk about loving such a being. --Phineas Taylor Barnum (1810-1891)
As a rule, all heroism is due to a lack of reflection, and thus it is necessary to maintain a mass of imbeciles. If they once understand themselves the ruling men will be lost.
--Ernest Renan (1823-1892)
The Bible and the Church have been the greatest stumbling blocks in the way of women's emancipation.--Elizabeth Cady Stanton (1815-1902)
Is it not better to place a question mark upon a problem while seeking an answer than to put the label "God" there and consider the matter closed?
--Joseph Lewis (1889-1968)
The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church.--Ferdinand Magellan (1480?-1521)
Portuguese navigator and explorer, the first European to cross the Pacific Ocean
"Faith" is a fine invention, when gentlemen can see
But microscopes are prudent, in an emergency.--Emily Dickinson (1830-1886)
American poet
Men rarely (if ever) managed to dream up a god superior to themselves. Most gods have the manners and morals of a spoiled child.
--Robert A Heinlein (1907-1988)
American author, an important writer of science fiction
With two thousand years of Christianity behind him ... a man can't see a regiment of soldiers march past without going off the deep end. It starts off far too many ideas in his head.
--Louis-Ferdinand Céline (1894-1961)
Look, I've gone over this before.
If God knows what I will do (be an Atheist) before he makes me, how do I have freewill? It is already predetermined.
Look at it this way - If god has some dice and knows before he rolls them that they will equal 7 (he is all-knowing, meaning he knows the past, present and future), then there is no way he can roll the dice and get 4. If it is anything other than 7, he is not all-knowing. Therefor, if God knows I will become an Atheist and remain an Atheist my entire life before he even creates me, there is no way I can become a Christian, if I did, he doesn't know all.
If God knows what I will do (be an Atheist) before he makes me, how do I have freewill? It is already predetermined.
Look at it this way - If god has some dice and knows before he rolls them that they will equal 7 (he is all-knowing, meaning he knows the past, present and future), then there is no way he can roll the dice and get 4. If it is anything other than 7, he is not all-knowing. Therefor, if God knows I will become an Atheist and remain an Atheist my entire life before he even creates me, there is no way I can become a Christian, if I did, he doesn't know all.
That's exactly right - most present Satanists are Atheists in the sense that they do not believe in any higher power (also correct; my brother is a self proclaimed Satanist).
Because most modern day Satanists follow Anton Levay's Satanism:
It is a philosophy on life and does not require the belief in a higher power.
Because most modern day Satanists follow Anton Levay's Satanism:
The most prominent and widely known Satanist in recent years is, and was Anton Szandor LaVey, who founded the Church of Satan in 1966. LaVey wrote The Satanic Bible (1969) and other works which remain highly influential (though controversial) among avowed Satanists. LaVey rejects the Black Mass, cruelty to animals, or a literal belief in (or worship of) Satan, instead considering Satan as the human instinct within ourselves, which is what LaVeyan Satanism celebrates; the human instinct. Instead he supports a view of human beings as animals and rejects many social structures that he believes inhibit human instincts.
It is a philosophy on life and does not require the belief in a higher power.
^^^^YOu dont know what will happen in your life years from now that will change your views. Something so powerful can happen to you that you will forsake everything you believe. Because your entire life is not over. When it is over you have had your entire life. God knows, but he lets you make your own choices.
Think of it like this- Say you know that killing someone will get you a life sentence (in this example you will get caught and will not get away) Now you see the future of that action but yet you choose to act on it, or you dont. there is the choice right there. You know that it is just a matter of the choice. You know the outcome of the situation regardless of the choice you make. Thats how I see it.
Think of it like this- Say you know that killing someone will get you a life sentence (in this example you will get caught and will not get away) Now you see the future of that action but yet you choose to act on it, or you dont. there is the choice right there. You know that it is just a matter of the choice. You know the outcome of the situation regardless of the choice you make. Thats how I see it.
Look, I know I don't know my future. But in my example I said if I am an atheist, and remain an atheist for the rest of my life. You must also accept this assumption, or example, in order to get my point.
Let's assume for argument sake that I will remain atheist for the rest of my life.
But if god knows what choice I will make before he even creates me, my life is predetermined.
Again, using your example, before god creates me, he already knows the outcome (I will commit murder). How is that not predetermination? You can say I have a choice, but the simple fact is god would have already known what decision I would make before he made me.
Let's assume for argument sake that I will remain atheist for the rest of my life.
But if god knows what choice I will make before he even creates me, my life is predetermined.
Again, using your example, before god creates me, he already knows the outcome (I will commit murder). How is that not predetermination? You can say I have a choice, but the simple fact is god would have already known what decision I would make before he made me.
Very True(Response to 2-0 Sixx). But at the same time you are not being told by God that you have to go and commit that. You still have the choice to do what is intended. God does'nt make you commit the act its your choice. No one is pushing the act of murder upon you. In your mind you have already decided what you are going to do. God will see what you are going to do because he is all knowing.