5 Freedoms You'd Lose in Healthcare Reform

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Some Random Asshole
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all i need to say is.........

FUCK OBAMA.

FUCK YOU FAGGOTS WHO VOTED FOR HIM.

FUCK YOU FAGGOTS WHO VOTED FOR HIM CAUSE HE'S BLACK.

FUCK YOU FAGGOTS WHO VOTED PERIOD FOR THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS.

YOU FUCKED US. AND NOW HE'S FUCKING US. BANKRUPTING OUR COUNTRY AND PUTTING US IN PLACE TO HAVE A NORTH AMERICAN CURRENCY...WHICH WILL LEAD TO A GLOBAL SYSTEM.....

YEAH, FUCK OBAMA. FUCK DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS.

i'm going to get high now...off work...

yeah, i don't like Obama....he can talk...but he dont' WALK THAT SHIT CAUSE HE'S A BITCH!

disclaimer...i don't give a fuck if you agree or disagree so miss me with that bullshit.
 

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Sicc OG
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#85
all i need to say is.........

FUCK OBAMA.

FUCK YOU FAGGOTS WHO VOTED FOR HIM.

FUCK YOU FAGGOTS WHO VOTED FOR HIM CAUSE HE'S BLACK.

FUCK YOU FAGGOTS WHO VOTED PERIOD FOR THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS.

YOU FUCKED US. AND NOW HE'S FUCKING US. BANKRUPTING OUR COUNTRY AND PUTTING US IN PLACE TO HAVE A NORTH AMERICAN CURRENCY...WHICH WILL LEAD TO A GLOBAL SYSTEM.....

YEAH, FUCK OBAMA. FUCK DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS.

i'm going to get high now...off work...

yeah, i don't like Obama....he can talk...but he dont' WALK THAT SHIT CAUSE HE'S A BITCH!

disclaimer...i don't give a fuck if you agree or disagree so miss me with that bullshit.
Something tells me you would be saying this no matter who was President on July 28th 2009...
 
May 27, 2008
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Hey, you can complain all you want but like C-FRESH said on DONT TRY TO PLAY ME "I'm out to get mines!!!!" People can do one of two things:

-Obsess about the future and complain about it
-GET THEIRS, and then work toward changing bad situations... live their lives

My dad always said that to me. Yeah, the government is shady and far from perfect, maybe it has to be that way since the US is such a huge melting pot. Anyway, no reason getting mad... get even!!!
 
Apr 25, 2002
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they are still a communist state.
Communism (from Latin: communis = "common") is a socioeconomic structure and political ideology that promotes the establishment of an egalitarian, classless, stateless society based on common ownership and control of the means of production and property in general

a communist state is an oxymoron..........
 
Apr 25, 2002
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#90
all i need to say is.........

FUCK OBAMA.

FUCK YOU FAGGOTS WHO VOTED FOR HIM.

FUCK YOU FAGGOTS WHO VOTED FOR HIM CAUSE HE'S BLACK.

FUCK YOU FAGGOTS WHO VOTED PERIOD FOR THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS.

YOU FUCKED US. AND NOW HE'S FUCKING US. BANKRUPTING OUR COUNTRY AND PUTTING US IN PLACE TO HAVE A NORTH AMERICAN CURRENCY...WHICH WILL LEAD TO A GLOBAL SYSTEM.....

YEAH, FUCK OBAMA. FUCK DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS.

i'm going to get high now...off work...

yeah, i don't like Obama....he can talk...but he dont' WALK THAT SHIT CAUSE HE'S A BITCH!

disclaimer...i don't give a fuck if you agree or disagree so miss me with that bullshit.
i agree with you
 
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thread is 7 pages long, aint gonna read it all, but my two cents

free or inexpensive (BUT limited health care) is better than no health care
 
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United States Still Ranks Last in Study Comparing Health Care Systems



By News Staff
5/31/2007



Despite spending more than $6,000 per person per year on health care, the United States continues to rank last among six nations in a study comparing access, quality, efficiency, equity and healthy lives.


The study, "Mirror, Mirror on the Wall: An International Update on the Comparative Performance of American Health Care" (PDF file: 40 pages / 504 KB. More about PDFs.) by the Commonwealth Fund, is an update of studies in 2004 and 2005. It concludes "the U.S. health system is the most expensive in the world, but comparative analyses consistently show the United States underperforms relative to other countries on most dimensions of performance."


According to the study's authors, "Among the six nations studied -- Australia, Canada, Germany, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States -- the U.S. ranks last, as it did in the 2006 and 2004 editions of 'Mirror, Mirror.' Most troubling, the U.S. fails to achieve better health outcomes than the other countries, and as shown in the earlier editions, the U.S. is last on dimensions of access, patient safety, efficiency, and equity."

Most noteworthy about the U.S. system is the absence of universal access to health care, something all the other countries studied have, according to the report. As a result, fewer Americans have access to a regular, primary care physician or a medical home.

"Other nations ensure the accessibility of care through universal health insurance systems and through better ties between patients and the physician practices that serve as their long-term 'medical home,'" the authors write. "It is not surprising, therefore, that the U.S. substantially underperforms other countries on measures of access to care and equity in health care between populations with above-average and below-average incomes."

AAFP public and private advocacy efforts are focusing on payment systems that allow family physicians to provide a patient-centered medical home that manages and coordinates care.

Most recently, AAFP President Rick Kellerman, M.D., of Wichita, Kan., called on Congress to adopt a payment system that encourages patients to use a medical home and compensates physicians who provide a medical home.

"It is time to stabilize and modernize Medicare by recognizing the importance of, and appropriately valuing, primary care and by embracing the patient-centered medical home model as an integral part of the Medicare program," Kellerman said in testimony before the House Ways and Means Subcommittee on Health.

In addition, AAFP is working with corporations, such as IBM, to push the health care system toward reform that uses the medical home as its foundation.

"Our country needs a patient-centered primary care system -- where the personal care physician serves as an advocate who attends the total health care needs of patients before health issues become more serious and expensive," wrote Martín-Jose Sepúlveda, M.D., M.P.H., vice president for global well-being services and health benefits for IBM Corp., in an April 4 AAFP News Now guest opinion (Members Only). "Patients should have a 'medical home' where they can be treated by a personal physician who understands their overall physical and emotional needs," he said.


http://www.aafp.org/online/en/home/...w/health-of-the-public/20070531usranking.html
 
Nov 24, 2003
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everyone deserves healthcare , everyone deserves to be recordnized as a human being


How can you say that and then decry the the spread of western influence in the next breath?

Should someone go and "modernize" indigenous people for the sake of their health care? Modern hunter-gathers and tribal people don't have hospitals and very limited forms of modern medical technology, but they should and "deserve" to be modernized for the sake of their health care? By the logic you stated above, they should.

Who is going to give health care to the Yanomami in Brazil?

Who is going to bring health care reform to Afghanistan?
 

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Some Random Asshole
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Something tells me you would be saying this no matter who was President on July 28th 2009...
really? NO SHIT FUCK TARD.

WHY? CAUSE THEY'RE ALL THE SAME.

They tell you different shit to CONFUSE YOU and obviously it worked.

Did you FUCKING READ WHERE I SAID FUCK YOU WHO VOTED FOR THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS? OR WHERE I SAID FUCK DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS?

I don't know why the fuck you said "something tells me..." I FUCKIN TOLD YOU YA GOD DAMN DOLT. LOL!

I apologize for the abrasivness but FUCK dude....do you understand SHIT?

Doesn't appear so.

I don't fuck with Dems or Repubs...I fuck with green, indie, soc, anything BUT democrat and republican.

Go watch the Obama Deception and do some research for yourself. He's got ties to the Federal Bank just like a few of his cabinet members....he's workin for them. He's a TOOL like EVERY OTHER president.

I don't give a fuck WHO the president is. I never said I did.....if it's DEM or REPUB.......FUCK EM.

They have an agenda, and if you don't see that, you are a sheep. Just like all these stupid ass white mutha fuckas who think the American Dream is real....when it's just a pipe dream. By the way, I'm white. So nobody can talk shit to me for talking about white people.

I LOVE MY COUNTRY AND MY FREEDOMS WHICH IS WHY I SAY WHAT I DO.

I just don't support where this country has been, is right now, and WILL be going.

If you don't have a gun, get 3 or 4. And stock up on ammo through UNDERGROUND sources casue ammo manufacturers are ALL on back order so all your ammo purchases are documented.....and it's all through your CREDIT/DEBIT CARD....which obviously ties shit to your bank account, social security number, and anything else that's VITAL to your privacy and freedom.

:) Like I said, MISS ME WITH THAT BULLSHIT. Apparently READING IS NOT YOUR STRONG SUIT.
 

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Some Random Asshole
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what do you think about ron paul?
that guy is a clown too. some of his ideas aren't bad but he's a little too far out there for me....

honestly, i don't think it makes a difference who is president...same shit will happen. but i'll still say FUCK whoever is president for being a punk ass tool like Obama is, Bush was, Clinton was, etc etc etc etc.

i dont think it's going to change. i didn't say anyone else would be better...cause they are ALL tools. ALL of them. If you are a "career politician" you are doing favors for lobbyists and your cohorts, that's not representing the people in your district or country. that, is American politics.....do favors for those who can help you and fuck everyone else, but we'll make it seem like we're doing something when all we're doing is spending tax payers money on bullshit that doesn't do anything. by "we" i mean the american gov't...politicians etc...not you and i.

i honestly don't think anything will make a REAL change...except a violent revolution against an oppressive gov't that's not self sustaining....either we'll be fucked, or we'll forward on teh fucking to the next generation just like everyone has done before....which is only goign to continue to fuck this country and the people who live here.
 
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How can you say that and then decry the the spread of western influence in the next breath?

Should someone go and "modernize" indigenous people for the sake of their health care? Modern hunter-gathers and tribal people don't have hospitals and very limited forms of modern medical technology, but they should and "deserve" to be modernized for the sake of their health care? By the logic you stated above, they should.

Who is going to give health care to the Yanomami in Brazil?

Who is going to bring health care reform to Afghanistan?
now you're just being a dick