5 Freedoms You'd Lose in Healthcare Reform

[WeDueThis]

WHERE THE FUCK DOES IT SAY YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO LIFE LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS AT EVERYONE ELSE'S EXPENSE? IT FUCKIN DOESN'T. SO SHUT THE FUCK UP.

We'll you can make the argument that the rich are getting off on the poor and blue collar busting their backs. They gettin rich off our hard ass labor. While we breakin our bodies so they can stack money we can't even gettin surgery when it comes time to fix a slipped disc. Thats fucked up.

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

Nationalized health care is nationalized health care, period. The United States isn't going to have a "better" socialized medical system than Canada, or any other country with the same system. What, because we're in the United States we're going to do it better? No.

They are already telling us that MRI's and things of that nature will be decided by THEM. They will decide if such simple things are necessary or not. That's error number one. Shall I continue?

So YOU decide if you have an MRI or not?

I thought that was your doctor's decision.

Don't insurance companies currently decide?

Our health ranks lowest of all developing countries.

We are the ONLY industrialized nation without socialized health care, and the people suffer as a result.

A Cigna VP recently defected and gave a tell all interview on Bill Moyers. You should check it out.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07102009/watch2.html

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

The World Health Organization's ranking
of the world's health systems.

Rank Country

1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
37 United States of America
38 Slovenia
39 Cuba
40 Brunei
41 New Zealand
42 Bahrain
43 Croatia
44 Qatar
45 Kuwait
46 Barbados
47 Thailand
48 Czech Republic
49 Malaysia
50 Poland
51 Dominican Republic
52 Tunisia
53 Jamaica
54 Venezuela
55 Albania
56 Seychelles
57 Paraguay
58 South Korea
59 Senegal
60 Philippines
61 Mexico
62 Slovakia
63 Egypt
64 Kazakhstan
65 Uruguay
66 Hungary
67 Trinidad and Tobago
68 Saint Lucia
69 Belize
70 Turkey
71 Nicaragua
72 Belarus
73 Lithuania
74 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
75 Argentina
76 Sri Lanka
77 Estonia
78 Guatemala
79 Ukraine
80 Solomon Islands
81 Algeria
82 Palau
83 Jordan
84 Mauritius
85 Grenada
86 Antigua and Barbuda
87 Libya
88 Bangladesh
89 Macedonia
90 Bosnia-Herzegovina
91 Lebanon
92 Indonesia
93 Iran
94 Bahamas
95 Panama
96 Fiji
97 Benin
98 Nauru
99 Romania
100 Saint Kitts and Nevis
101 Moldova
102 Bulgaria
103 Iraq
104 Armenia
105 Latvia
106 Yugoslavia
107 Cook Islands
108 Syria
109 Azerbaijan
110 Suriname
111 Ecuador
112 India
113 Cape Verde
114 Georgia
115 El Salvador
116 Tonga
117 Uzbekistan
118 Comoros
119 Samoa
120 Yemen
121 Niue
122 Pakistan
123 Micronesia
124 Bhutan
125 Brazil
126 Bolivia
127 Vanuatu
128 Guyana
129 Peru
130 Russia
131 Honduras
132 Burkina Faso
133 Sao Tome and Principe
134 Sudan
135 Ghana
136 Tuvalu
137 Ivory Coast
138 Haiti
139 Gabon
140 Kenya
141 Marshall Islands
142 Kiribati
143 Burundi
144 China
145 Mongolia
146 Gambia
147 Maldives
148 Papua New Guinea
149 Uganda
150 Nepal
151 Kyrgystan
152 Togo
153 Turkmenistan
154 Tajikistan
155 Zimbabwe
156 Tanzania
157 Djibouti
158 Eritrea
159 Madagascar
160 Vietnam
161 Guinea
162 Mauritania
163 Mali
164 Cameroon
165 Laos
166 Congo
167 North Korea
168 Namibia
169 Botswana
170 Niger
171 Equatorial Guinea
172 Rwanda
173 Afghanistan
174 Cambodia
175 South Africa
176 Guinea-Bissau
177 Swaziland
178 Chad
179 Somalia
180 Ethiopia
181 Angola
182 Zambia
183 Lesotho
184 Mozambique
185 Malawi
186 Liberia
187 Nigeria
188 Democratic Republic of the Congo
189 Central African Republic
190 Myanmar

 

[WeDueThis]

Look up the word "pursuit"....

It has nothing to do with being handed free shit because you're poor.



It's not about "pulling it off". It's about the fact that I, as a broke ass twenty-something white dude can't afford to pay more taxes so I can birth poor ass peoples babies, clear up their STD's, and heal their bones when they "fall down the stairs". I'm not saying this applies to the majority of society, but I flat out, do not want to pay for a crackhead prostitute to get medical coverage.



LoL. I've had problems with the knee since I was hit by a car and the local hospital didn't do shit to help me in the first place. Anyway it's almost embarrassing... I was doin' a wheelie on a bike (like... bicycle) and put my foot down to catch myself when I popped a wheelie too hard. My knee hyper extended, I heard two loud pops and went down. When I felt my knee, my kneecap was on the right side of my knee and I had to put it back in place. Fuckin' lame.

Translation: "I hate niggers."

Why did you have to point out your race? Whats the relevance of that?

 

[Zer0.MediA]

We'll you can make the argument that the rich are getting off on the poor and blue collar busting their backs. They gettin rich off our hard ass labor. While we breakin our bodies so they can stack money we can't even gettin surgery when it comes time to fix a slipped disc. Thats fucked up.

I don't give a fuck if the rich don't give a fuck about me, and if I were rich, I wouldn't give a fuck about you either. That's life.

Translation: "I hate niggers."

Why did you have to point out your race? Whats the relevance of that?

This is a new record. Two hours or so near the open forum untill I got called a racist. Congrats siccness!

BTW, you just insinuated that "niggers" are the only ones who smoke crack, have children, and whore themselves out.

Good one, dummy. I'm smart enough to know better. You might want to think about that.

The reason I brought up my race is that in this world, if a white, 25 year old American male can hardly take care of himself financially, there's no reason to act as if minorities are the only ones getting fucked in the world.

 

[I AM]

We'll you can make the argument that the rich are getting off on the poor and blue collar busting their backs. They gettin rich off our hard ass labor. While we breakin our bodies so they can stack money we can't even gettin surgery when it comes time to fix a slipped disc. Thats fucked up.

man, i have serious back problems that i never dealt with cause i couldn't afford it before my current job. and as i said i'm super lucky casu ethey pay for my insurance...even though it's not super good, it's better than nothing.

i have bone spurs in my neck, and the start of bones fusing together from shit i couldn't afford to deal with before. i got some major surgery later this year i gotta deal with...and it's going to cost me, 2 grand this year...and when i go in for the 2nd half next year..it's another 2 grand. and that's out of pocket. cause i'm maxing out my dental insurance. even when you have insurance, it doesn't guarantee you shit. if i did it all this year, i'd be comin outta pocket 6 grand...cause it's 4g's each time. think i can afford that? Fuuuuuuck....looks like saving money is the best option.

i ain't mad. i'm just sayin you should think before you say some dumb shit, like i want to pay for some fuck's insurance.

and if i was rich, i probably actually would give some of it back...but it wouldn't be some stupid fuckign hand out for anyone. life isn't about FREE shit. it's about WORKING for what you get. you aren't OWED shit but your LIFE. you are living, so you have all you were EVER guaranteed. if you believe the american dream or any of that nonsense then i'm sorry man

 

[TaxMan]

I don't give a fuck if the rich don't give a fuck about me, and if I were rich, I wouldn't give a fuck about you either. That's life.

That's just keeping it real.

 

[Dhadnot]

That's just fucking stupid and selfish, that's what it is.

 

[Sydal]

So YOU decide if you have an MRI or not?

I thought that was your doctor's decision.

Don't insurance companies currently decide?

Our health ranks lowest of all developing countries.

We are the ONLY industrialized nation without socialized health care, and the people suffer as a result.

A Cigna VP recently defected and gave a tell all interview on Bill Moyers. You should check it out.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07102009/watch2.html

It is the doctor's decision, not the decision of government run insurance companies. And if you decide you don't want it, you don't have to get it. I don't know what kind of coverage you've had or have, but when I had insurance no company decided whether or not I could have an MRI, x-Ray or Cat Scan. The only thing I ever had to wait for was a referral to a specialist (with non serious conditions my wait time was about 3 weeks...with a serious condition it would have been less than a week).

Our health is low, but look at the REAL ISSUES! It's not the healthcare system we have. We eat the WORST SHIT in the world, we are the most OBESE COUNTRY IN THE WORLD (Obesity causes heart issues, diabetes, blood clots, stroke, etc. etc.). We work a lot, we stress a lot, we move too fast. Don't look at the system, look at the real causes of our health issues.

Obama's DOCTOR even said this system won't fuckin' work. Why is it so hard for folks to see that Medi-Cal and Medicare are fuckin failures (both government backed). And THOSE are small potatoes compared to a NATIONAL SYSTEM!! With everybody and their mother on board.

 

[I AM]

That's just fucking stupid and selfish, that's what it is.

yeah not working and taking money from people who work their asses of is pretty selfish.

and i KNOW you didn't mean that. but obviously that shoe fits. and what i said is way more fucking logical.

people who want to keep the money they earn....versus people who don't want to work for what they want like everyone else so they leach off others...


HMMMMMM......

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

Why is it so hard for folks to see that Medi-Cal and Medicare are fuckin failures (both government backed). And THOSE are small potatoes compared to a NATIONAL SYSTEM!! With everybody and their mother on board.

Medi-cal and Medi-Care STILL have higher approval rates than private insurance.

 

[Sydal]

Medi-cal and Medi-Care STILL have higher approval rates than private insurance.

The Medicare system is BANKRUPT!

 

[CNI]

Medi-cal and Medi-Care STILL have higher approval rates than private insurance.

Medi-cal took 6 weeks to get approval to see a cariologist when I had an irregular heartbeat. But hey, I guess getting that approval was the important part I should look at.

By then, I had perfect readings again. My family has a history of heart problems, and if I do in fact have something to be concerned about, I still don`t know.

I pray I NEVER have to go through that again, but the cardiologist basically told me to come back when it reoccurs. Thanks doc!