Your views on the homeless....
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LOL @ROBS4. BAD ANALOgY. YOU TRYIN' TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE I'M SOME COLD-HEARTED HIPOCRITE, THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKIN' BOUT. LET'S BREAK DOWN YOUR RESPONSES AND STATEMENTS.
YOU STRESSED, "What do baseheads act like EDJ do you know and have you written extensive research about the basehead community."
I HAVE EXPERIENCED THE HUSTLE AND DONE SERVED ALL KIND OF KLUKS IN EVERY PART OF DENVER. I HAVE OBSERVED SIMILARITIES WITHIN THE BASEHEADS, THEY MOTIVATION AND REACTIONS. I HAVE ALSO SERVED TIME WITH BASEHEADS AND JUNKIES(FROM DIFFERENT COUNTIES, TO THE STATE PEN). I HAVE WITNESSED HOW THEY ARE, AND HOW JAIL HAS SAVED THEM. AND IF YOU WANT TO KEEP IT REAL, I HAVE ENOUgH INFORMATION TO WRITE A BOOK AND RESEARCH ABOUT THE TOPIC. BUT ALL THAT WRITIN' gOES INTO MY LYRICS AND RHYMES.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "In what way do they want the so called arm why is it that stereotype you have of the homeless is in that form you are prejudiced against someone of lower economic standing then yourself."
FIFTY FIRST OF ALL,
IT AIN'T NO STEREO-TYPE. WE LIVE IN MATERIALISTIC MONEY-HUNgRY SOCIETY, AND EVEN THE ONE AT THE BOTTOM WANTS MORE. IT'S THIS gREED IN THIS DAY AND AgE. HOW DO SOMEONE LIKE THAT EXPECT SOMETHIN' WHEN THEY CAN'T DO FO' THEMSELVES? YOU gIVE THEM A DOLLAR, THEY WANT FIVE MORE. THAT'S HOW THEY WANT THE WHOLE ARM.
XNDLY,
I DON'T STEREO-TYPE. THEY AIN'T NO RACE. THEY SOMEBODY THAT LET THEMSELVES gO. HOW CAN I RESPECT THAT? I'VE BEEN SOLICITED(ESPECIALLY WHERE I'M AT NOW) AND EVEN WORKED ALONg SIDE A FEW OF THEM. I'VE BEEN IN THE SAME POSITION AND BELIEVE ME, I CAN'T LET MYSELF BE A NOTHIN' ASS BEggAR.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Okay iam going to put this so you can understand. What if i said all blacks should be sent back to Africa or all Latino's should be sent back to their native homelands. YOu would pout and cry that i am a closet racist and then try and destroy my view."
THAT WOULDN'T BE CLOSET RACISM, THAT WOULD BE FLAT OUT RACIST AND IgNORANT(WHICH MOST ANgLO'S ACTUALLY ALREADY FEEL). AND TO COMPARE THAT TO THE HOMELESS, YOU BASICALLY SAYIN' MOST BLAKS AND LATINOS ARE ON THAT LEVEL. THAT'S FUCCED UP CUZZ. THAT IS NOT ONLY A BAD COMPARISON, BUT YOU MAKIN' YOURSELF LOOK MORE RACIST. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU IMPLY THAT I WOULD POUT AND CRY. VERY TYPICAL.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Here iam trying to show you. What if your mom was homeless? Lets incarcerate her or deport her EDJ how does that sound (If your mom has passed no disrespect)."
WHY IN THE FUK WOULD MY MOM BE HOMELESS IN THE 51ST PLACE? YOU TRYIN' TO PLAY INTO MY EMOTIONS, BUT REALISTICALLY, IF MY MAMA WAS HOMELESS, DO YOU THINK I WOULD CARE? SHE'D BE HOMELESS FOR A REASON. BUT I WOULD NEVA LET THAT HAPPEN. BUT MAYBE I WAS TOO HARSH TO SAY THAT, BUT I SEE NO OTHA SOLUTION. I SAID THAT CAUSE I SEEN HOMELESS FOO'S ALL THRU-OUT AND I KNOW A LOT FROM WHERE I'M FROM AND SEEN THEM gO TO JAIL AND gET RESCUED. I'M NOT TALKIN' BOUT ARRESTED, I'M TALKIN' BOUT THEY gOT AR-RESCUED. DOIN' TIME MADE THEM APPRECIATE THEIR FREEDOM MORE. SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYIN' THEY SHOULD BE ARRESTED AND TOOKEN OFF THE COLD STREETS AND ATLEAST BE IN A WARM PLACE THEY CAN SLEEP, HAVE 3 SQUARE MEALS(INSTEAD OF THE TRASH THEY EAT), AND gIVE THEM TIME TO RE-EVALUATE THEY LIFE. THERE AIN'T NO EXCUSE FOR SOMEBODY IN THIS SOCIETY TO BE HOMELESS UNLESS THEY CHOOSE TO BE. LOOK AT ALL THE MEXICANS THAT COME WITH NOTHIN' AND HUSTLE TO HAVE SHIT. AND THEY THE ONES THAT ARE BEIN' DEPORTED. I DON'T gET IT. A BUM HAS HIS RIgHTS AND EVEN HAS EVERYBODY'S PITY BUT A POOR MEXICAN THAT JUST WANTS A BETTER LIFE AND gETS THE LOWEST OF JOBS IS DEPORTED? SO THE ONES THAT DON'T WANNA WORK STAY AND THE ONES THAT WANNA WORK gET DEPORTED?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Your the one to point the finger when someone offends your race/ races, but your quick to diss homeless like they are a race. Homie your hypocritical. Peace"
LOL AT YOUR ASSUMPTIONS. I AIN'T DISSIN' HOMELESS LIKE THEY A RACE. THAT'S WHAT YOU DOIN'. YOU ASSUMIN' I THINK OF THEM AS A RACE AND BELITTLIN' THEM, WHEN IN FACT THEY SOMEBODY THAT LET THEMSELVES gO. EACH ONE HAS THEY STORY, AND EACH ONE HAS THE WILL TO MAKE A CHANgE. I DIDN'T PUT THEM IN THAT SITUATION. A LOT OF MY PEOPLES IS OUT HOMELESS. ALL YOU COULD DO IS HUSTLE TO NOT BE IN THAT PREDICAMENT, AND THAT'S WHAT MOST OF MY PEOPLE DO. YOU THE ONE TO TRY AND TELL ME. I DONE BEEN HOMELESS IN MY RIDE AND MOST OF THESE YOUNgSTAS FROM THE HOOD gROW UP TO BE LIKE THAT. I SAID WHAT I SAID TO gIVE AN INCENTIVE TO NOT BE HOMELESS. THINK ABOUT IT. IF YOU FOUND TO BE HOMELESS, YOU CAN EITHA BE LOCCED UP OR DEPORTED. YOU THINK PEOPLE WOULD BE HOMELESS THEN? I THINK A LOT WOULD gET THEY LIFE STRAIgHT BEFORE THEN.
YOU STRESSED, "What do baseheads act like EDJ do you know and have you written extensive research about the basehead community."
I HAVE EXPERIENCED THE HUSTLE AND DONE SERVED ALL KIND OF KLUKS IN EVERY PART OF DENVER. I HAVE OBSERVED SIMILARITIES WITHIN THE BASEHEADS, THEY MOTIVATION AND REACTIONS. I HAVE ALSO SERVED TIME WITH BASEHEADS AND JUNKIES(FROM DIFFERENT COUNTIES, TO THE STATE PEN). I HAVE WITNESSED HOW THEY ARE, AND HOW JAIL HAS SAVED THEM. AND IF YOU WANT TO KEEP IT REAL, I HAVE ENOUgH INFORMATION TO WRITE A BOOK AND RESEARCH ABOUT THE TOPIC. BUT ALL THAT WRITIN' gOES INTO MY LYRICS AND RHYMES.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "In what way do they want the so called arm why is it that stereotype you have of the homeless is in that form you are prejudiced against someone of lower economic standing then yourself."
FIFTY FIRST OF ALL,
IT AIN'T NO STEREO-TYPE. WE LIVE IN MATERIALISTIC MONEY-HUNgRY SOCIETY, AND EVEN THE ONE AT THE BOTTOM WANTS MORE. IT'S THIS gREED IN THIS DAY AND AgE. HOW DO SOMEONE LIKE THAT EXPECT SOMETHIN' WHEN THEY CAN'T DO FO' THEMSELVES? YOU gIVE THEM A DOLLAR, THEY WANT FIVE MORE. THAT'S HOW THEY WANT THE WHOLE ARM.
XNDLY,
I DON'T STEREO-TYPE. THEY AIN'T NO RACE. THEY SOMEBODY THAT LET THEMSELVES gO. HOW CAN I RESPECT THAT? I'VE BEEN SOLICITED(ESPECIALLY WHERE I'M AT NOW) AND EVEN WORKED ALONg SIDE A FEW OF THEM. I'VE BEEN IN THE SAME POSITION AND BELIEVE ME, I CAN'T LET MYSELF BE A NOTHIN' ASS BEggAR.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Okay iam going to put this so you can understand. What if i said all blacks should be sent back to Africa or all Latino's should be sent back to their native homelands. YOu would pout and cry that i am a closet racist and then try and destroy my view."
THAT WOULDN'T BE CLOSET RACISM, THAT WOULD BE FLAT OUT RACIST AND IgNORANT(WHICH MOST ANgLO'S ACTUALLY ALREADY FEEL). AND TO COMPARE THAT TO THE HOMELESS, YOU BASICALLY SAYIN' MOST BLAKS AND LATINOS ARE ON THAT LEVEL. THAT'S FUCCED UP CUZZ. THAT IS NOT ONLY A BAD COMPARISON, BUT YOU MAKIN' YOURSELF LOOK MORE RACIST. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU IMPLY THAT I WOULD POUT AND CRY. VERY TYPICAL.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Here iam trying to show you. What if your mom was homeless? Lets incarcerate her or deport her EDJ how does that sound (If your mom has passed no disrespect)."
WHY IN THE FUK WOULD MY MOM BE HOMELESS IN THE 51ST PLACE? YOU TRYIN' TO PLAY INTO MY EMOTIONS, BUT REALISTICALLY, IF MY MAMA WAS HOMELESS, DO YOU THINK I WOULD CARE? SHE'D BE HOMELESS FOR A REASON. BUT I WOULD NEVA LET THAT HAPPEN. BUT MAYBE I WAS TOO HARSH TO SAY THAT, BUT I SEE NO OTHA SOLUTION. I SAID THAT CAUSE I SEEN HOMELESS FOO'S ALL THRU-OUT AND I KNOW A LOT FROM WHERE I'M FROM AND SEEN THEM gO TO JAIL AND gET RESCUED. I'M NOT TALKIN' BOUT ARRESTED, I'M TALKIN' BOUT THEY gOT AR-RESCUED. DOIN' TIME MADE THEM APPRECIATE THEIR FREEDOM MORE. SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYIN' THEY SHOULD BE ARRESTED AND TOOKEN OFF THE COLD STREETS AND ATLEAST BE IN A WARM PLACE THEY CAN SLEEP, HAVE 3 SQUARE MEALS(INSTEAD OF THE TRASH THEY EAT), AND gIVE THEM TIME TO RE-EVALUATE THEY LIFE. THERE AIN'T NO EXCUSE FOR SOMEBODY IN THIS SOCIETY TO BE HOMELESS UNLESS THEY CHOOSE TO BE. LOOK AT ALL THE MEXICANS THAT COME WITH NOTHIN' AND HUSTLE TO HAVE SHIT. AND THEY THE ONES THAT ARE BEIN' DEPORTED. I DON'T gET IT. A BUM HAS HIS RIgHTS AND EVEN HAS EVERYBODY'S PITY BUT A POOR MEXICAN THAT JUST WANTS A BETTER LIFE AND gETS THE LOWEST OF JOBS IS DEPORTED? SO THE ONES THAT DON'T WANNA WORK STAY AND THE ONES THAT WANNA WORK gET DEPORTED?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Your the one to point the finger when someone offends your race/ races, but your quick to diss homeless like they are a race. Homie your hypocritical. Peace"
LOL AT YOUR ASSUMPTIONS. I AIN'T DISSIN' HOMELESS LIKE THEY A RACE. THAT'S WHAT YOU DOIN'. YOU ASSUMIN' I THINK OF THEM AS A RACE AND BELITTLIN' THEM, WHEN IN FACT THEY SOMEBODY THAT LET THEMSELVES gO. EACH ONE HAS THEY STORY, AND EACH ONE HAS THE WILL TO MAKE A CHANgE. I DIDN'T PUT THEM IN THAT SITUATION. A LOT OF MY PEOPLES IS OUT HOMELESS. ALL YOU COULD DO IS HUSTLE TO NOT BE IN THAT PREDICAMENT, AND THAT'S WHAT MOST OF MY PEOPLE DO. YOU THE ONE TO TRY AND TELL ME. I DONE BEEN HOMELESS IN MY RIDE AND MOST OF THESE YOUNgSTAS FROM THE HOOD gROW UP TO BE LIKE THAT. I SAID WHAT I SAID TO gIVE AN INCENTIVE TO NOT BE HOMELESS. THINK ABOUT IT. IF YOU FOUND TO BE HOMELESS, YOU CAN EITHA BE LOCCED UP OR DEPORTED. YOU THINK PEOPLE WOULD BE HOMELESS THEN? I THINK A LOT WOULD gET THEY LIFE STRAIgHT BEFORE THEN.
Alot of homeless people have mental illnesses and either refuse to be treated or can't be treated. And having such disabilities they can't function normally in a society like you or I could, thus they are shoved aside from the rest of society.
My uncle has schizophrenia*paranoia which developed in his twenties. He denies that he has such a problem and refuses to be treated, he has lived in his truck for the past 15 years. Our family tries to send him money and cards on holidays and things via a volunteer medical center where he gets mail and supplies but he doesn't want to associate with us anymore, it's part of his odd way of thinking that everyone is out to get him. My other uncle got him a series of jobs one of them was at a naval engineering office, but he quit because he thought his fellow co-workers were plotting to kill him. It's truely sad.
My uncle has schizophrenia*paranoia which developed in his twenties. He denies that he has such a problem and refuses to be treated, he has lived in his truck for the past 15 years. Our family tries to send him money and cards on holidays and things via a volunteer medical center where he gets mail and supplies but he doesn't want to associate with us anymore, it's part of his odd way of thinking that everyone is out to get him. My other uncle got him a series of jobs one of them was at a naval engineering office, but he quit because he thought his fellow co-workers were plotting to kill him. It's truely sad.
What would JESUS think about the HOMELESS????
For some reason I think he would want us to give money to the poor and take care of them...Where the hell would I have come up with a silly idea like that?
. First, remember that he said, "Take all that you own and sell it, then give your money to the poor and follow me." I never read that anywhere in the Wall Street Journal.
But this is consistent with many of Jesus' other sayings and with his lifestyle. "Blessed are the poor, but woe to the rich." (Luke 6). Also remember what Jesus instructed the religious man: "Sell all that you own and give the money to the poor." (Luke 18). As for his lifestyle, we know that he traveled around a lot in his very few years of work. But he did not travel alone; he had several groups with him: the 12 disciples or apostles; a retinue of women that followed him about (and no doubt some had children); his mother and brothers and sisters were frequently with him; and another retinue of "disciples" who at one point is counted as 70. Over a hundred people followed Jesus around. ... All of this was therefore evidently organized and even by modern terms should be recognized as quite an impressive operation. ... The point is: All shared and shared alike.
Perhaps it is not absolutely clear, but in the case of the early church it is so stated. After Jesus' death, his original disciples form the early church. Now we find that all property and wealth was handled in a communal (communist) fashion.
"The church of believers were of one heart and soul, and none claimed anything as belonging to himself, all property was common property. ... There was not one needy among them, because those who owned land or houses sold them and brought the monies to the apostles, and they would distribute it to whoever had a need." (Acts 4).
Acts 4:32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any [of them] that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
Acts 4:34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
Acts 4:35 And laid [them] down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.
Some might say Jesus was a communist.
For some reason I think he would want us to give money to the poor and take care of them...Where the hell would I have come up with a silly idea like that?
. First, remember that he said, "Take all that you own and sell it, then give your money to the poor and follow me." I never read that anywhere in the Wall Street Journal.
But this is consistent with many of Jesus' other sayings and with his lifestyle. "Blessed are the poor, but woe to the rich." (Luke 6). Also remember what Jesus instructed the religious man: "Sell all that you own and give the money to the poor." (Luke 18). As for his lifestyle, we know that he traveled around a lot in his very few years of work. But he did not travel alone; he had several groups with him: the 12 disciples or apostles; a retinue of women that followed him about (and no doubt some had children); his mother and brothers and sisters were frequently with him; and another retinue of "disciples" who at one point is counted as 70. Over a hundred people followed Jesus around. ... All of this was therefore evidently organized and even by modern terms should be recognized as quite an impressive operation. ... The point is: All shared and shared alike.
Perhaps it is not absolutely clear, but in the case of the early church it is so stated. After Jesus' death, his original disciples form the early church. Now we find that all property and wealth was handled in a communal (communist) fashion.
"The church of believers were of one heart and soul, and none claimed anything as belonging to himself, all property was common property. ... There was not one needy among them, because those who owned land or houses sold them and brought the monies to the apostles, and they would distribute it to whoever had a need." (Acts 4).
Acts 4:32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any [of them] that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
Acts 4:34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
Acts 4:35 And laid [them] down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.
Some might say Jesus was a communist.
I doubt he would ever "snap out of it", he's been to jail before. I honestly think his condition is hopeless, he's too old to be forced into a mental hospital, or be forced to accept treatment. In his world he is the normal one and everyone else is out of touch, thats the way he percieves things. Like I said, with his condition he just can't function in society like you or I can. He used to take his medicine and stuff and he did pretty well. But for some reason he decided that he didn't have a problem and decided he would rather be independent.
Last time I saw him he showed up at our house out of no where, he stayed for a couple of days then left in the middle of the night without notice. My dad was going to get him a job in construction, and he was planning to help my uncle get his shit together. I still don't know why my uncle left, I'm guessing he probably had one of skitzo paranoia episodes.
Last time I saw him he showed up at our house out of no where, he stayed for a couple of days then left in the middle of the night without notice. My dad was going to get him a job in construction, and he was planning to help my uncle get his shit together. I still don't know why my uncle left, I'm guessing he probably had one of skitzo paranoia episodes.
2-0-SIXX,
YOU STRESSED, "I don’t believe in Jesus, but my post shows how hypocritical some Christians are. CLREALY Jesus said we should take care of the poor or homeless and you and some other people are on some “fuck the homeless” type shit which I would say is hypocritical."
51ST OF ALL,
I AIN'T NO MUTHA-FUCCIN' CHRISTIAN OR CLAIMED TO BE. I'M JUST A LOST SOUL IN THIS FUCCED UP WORLD. I'M A WILLIN' SINNER. SO DON'T THROW ME INTO THAT BUNCH.
XNDLY,
I AgREE THAT MOST SO CALLED CHRISTIANS ARE HIPOCRITES.
3RDLY,
IT IS ALSO STATED IN SCRIPTURE THAT YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW. SO IF THESE FOO'S AIN'T SOWIN' SHIT, THEY gET SHIT.
FTHLY,
IT IS ALSO STATED IN SCRIPTURE THAT HE WHO WORKS, EATS, AND THOSE WHO DON'T WORK, DON'T EAT.
YOU STRESSED, "I don’t believe in Jesus, but my post shows how hypocritical some Christians are. CLREALY Jesus said we should take care of the poor or homeless and you and some other people are on some “fuck the homeless” type shit which I would say is hypocritical."
51ST OF ALL,
I AIN'T NO MUTHA-FUCCIN' CHRISTIAN OR CLAIMED TO BE. I'M JUST A LOST SOUL IN THIS FUCCED UP WORLD. I'M A WILLIN' SINNER. SO DON'T THROW ME INTO THAT BUNCH.
XNDLY,
I AgREE THAT MOST SO CALLED CHRISTIANS ARE HIPOCRITES.
3RDLY,
IT IS ALSO STATED IN SCRIPTURE THAT YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW. SO IF THESE FOO'S AIN'T SOWIN' SHIT, THEY gET SHIT.
FTHLY,
IT IS ALSO STATED IN SCRIPTURE THAT HE WHO WORKS, EATS, AND THOSE WHO DON'T WORK, DON'T EAT.
2-0-SIXX,
YOU STRESSED, "Relax comrade, not saying you are a christian but you believe in Jesus and his words, right? Just making a point."
MAN YOU MAKIN' SEEM LIKE I'M A HIPOCRITE AND ASSIMILATIN' ME TO THESE HIPOCRITICAL MASSES. BUT I BELIEVE IN JESUS, MEANIN' THAT I KNOW HE EXISTED AND HIS MISSION. THAT DON'T MEAN THAT I ADHERE TO SUCH OR THAT I FOLLOW HIS EXAMPLES OR gO BY HIS TEACHINgS.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Yes, there are a lot of contradictions in the bible, but I guess that's another thread."
I WOULD HAVE TO DISAgREE WITH THAT STATEMENT. THE BIBLE DOESN'T CONTRADICT ITSELF. IT'S MAN'S TRANSLATION OF THE SCRIPTURES THAT IS CONTRADICTORY.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "True, but just because someone doesn't work, doenst necessarly mean it's his fault."
EXACTLY. AND THAT'S WHY SOME OF US HUSTLE. THEY HUSTLE IS TO BEg ON THE CORNER. I AIN'T FALLIN' FOR THAT.
YOU STRESSED, "Relax comrade, not saying you are a christian but you believe in Jesus and his words, right? Just making a point."
MAN YOU MAKIN' SEEM LIKE I'M A HIPOCRITE AND ASSIMILATIN' ME TO THESE HIPOCRITICAL MASSES. BUT I BELIEVE IN JESUS, MEANIN' THAT I KNOW HE EXISTED AND HIS MISSION. THAT DON'T MEAN THAT I ADHERE TO SUCH OR THAT I FOLLOW HIS EXAMPLES OR gO BY HIS TEACHINgS.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Yes, there are a lot of contradictions in the bible, but I guess that's another thread."
I WOULD HAVE TO DISAgREE WITH THAT STATEMENT. THE BIBLE DOESN'T CONTRADICT ITSELF. IT'S MAN'S TRANSLATION OF THE SCRIPTURES THAT IS CONTRADICTORY.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "True, but just because someone doesn't work, doenst necessarly mean it's his fault."
EXACTLY. AND THAT'S WHY SOME OF US HUSTLE. THEY HUSTLE IS TO BEg ON THE CORNER. I AIN'T FALLIN' FOR THAT.
