why does bill orielly always have something to say about hip hop?

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D-Style said:
He brought up the death of Jam Master Jay today on his show and he uses his death as an oppurtunity to slam rap again. He said "hard rock groups don't have the same violence as rap, why?". Fool really has it out for rap.

check out what FAIR.org (fairness and accuracy in reporting)
has on fox

Fox News Channel's extraordinary right-wing tilt
http://www.fair.org/extra/0108/fox-main.html

more on fox
http://www.fair.org/media-outlets/newscorp-fox.html


i never saw that O'Reilly show, but i keep reading that its crap
http://www.fair.org/extra/0108/oreilly.html
http://www.fair.org/media-outlets/o'reilly.html
 
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MissLady said:
uneducated fucca :rolleyes:
Im not white washed. Im just intelligent.
Stop drinkin haterade!
Whats ur point, anyway?
how am I uneducated lol??? Nothing I have said on this post is wrong. Your trying to defend hitler and the nazis by saying that it helped put jews where they are today, what about all the lifes that were ruined? What about the native americans of this country who were slaughtered, is everything ok because they own casinos????? LMAO! Some people are just dumb and I can't carry on a conversation with a thick headed person such as yourself. Anyone who respects nazis views (are you sure your black???) is a. racist b. not intelligent c. clueless or d. a white washed person who hates their own skin color & wishes that they were white.
 
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Youre uneducated because if the jews were never put into concentration camps and practically wiped out they wouldnt be where they are today. They would have never ventured off to America to avoid persecution by the nazis. They would not be where they are today. If slavery never started would black people be here in America? Probably not. If Ireland never had a potatoe famine would Irish people live here? NO! Would you celebrate St Patricks Day? NO! And American Indians are still suffering. But no one can change it but the government.
Im not defending nazi's at all FYI. You misinterpet my words.
I already said i didnt like what happened but it did. and you nor I nor anyone else can change it!
A. Im not racist. Im a str8 mutt. My father is black/indian my mom is Italian/Cherokee/Spanish. I was raised in a multi ethnic neighborhood. I have friends from all races Asian Black mexican puerto rican, white etc etc. SO im NOT a racist. I dont think of myself as inferior or better than the next mutha fucca.
B. Im very intelligent. Ima freshman studying criminal justice. therefore you are WRONG again.
C. refer to B
D. Im not white washed at all. Define white washed. I dont hate ma own skin. I like me just the way I am. I have no self esteem issues. Im content with myself and my surroundings. And im already white so.. You are WRONG AGAIN!
Think before you say shit.

You get an "F" for the day.
 
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MissLady said:
Youre uneducated because if the jews were never put into concentration camps and practically wiped out they wouldnt be where they are today. They would have never ventured off to America to avoid persecution by the nazis. They would not be where they are today. If slavery never started would black people be here in America? Probably not. If Ireland never had a potatoe famine would Irish people live here? NO! Would you celebrate St Patricks Day? NO! And American Indians are still suffering. But no one can change it but the government.
Im not defending nazi's at all FYI. You misinterpet my words.
I already said i didnt like what happened but it did. and you nor I nor anyone else can change it!
A. Im not racist. Im a str8 mutt. My father is black/indian my mom is Italian/Cherokee/Spanish. I was raised in a multi ethnic neighborhood. I have friends from all races Asian Black mexican puerto rican, white etc etc. SO im NOT a racist. I dont think of myself as inferior or better than the next mutha fucca.
B. Im very intelligent. Ima freshman studying criminal justice. therefore you are WRONG again.
C. refer to B
D. Im not white washed at all. Define white washed. I dont hate ma own skin. I like me just the way I am. I have no self esteem issues. Im content with myself and my surroundings. And im already white so.. You are WRONG AGAIN!
Think before you say shit.

You get an "F" for the day.
Explain to me how I am uneducated. You said:

Youre uneducated because if the jews were never put into concentration camps and practically wiped out they wouldnt be where they are today. They would have never ventured off to America to avoid persecution by the nazis. They would not be where they are today. If slavery never started would black people be here in America? Probably not. If Ireland never had a potatoe famine would Irish people live here? NO! Would you celebrate St Patricks Day? NO! And American Indians are still suffering. But no one can change it but the government.

That still doesn't explain to me how I am uneducated.

Going to community college doesn't make you an intelligent person. There are plenty of idiots who graduate from college, let alone community colleges. You have the grammar of a 6th grader & you are very unarticulate.

What happened happened, true. But just the fact that you respect some people's views is beyond me.

you said:

Im not white washed at all. Define white washed. I dont hate ma own skin. I like me just the way I am. I have no self esteem issues. Im content with myself and my surroundings. And im already white so.. You are WRONG AGAIN!
Think before you say shit.

Doesn't look that to me. If that is your picture and you think that you are white, then there's something wrong there. I can have a black dad & a white mom, but if I happen to be black then that's what I am, black. Same thing if you turn out white, brown, etc. So obviously you have some indentity issues you need to resolve. I'm sure that's why you come to white peoples defenses so much because your insecure about what you are. Me, on the otherhand am confident with my nationality. I'm mexican, my parents are, I might have some other races in me but you don't see me saying "well i'm, 5% this, 12% that, and some this 2".
 
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D-Style said:


Explain to me how I am uneducated. You said:

Youre uneducated because if the jews were never put into concentration camps and practically wiped out they wouldnt be where they are today. They would have never ventured off to America to avoid persecution by the nazis. They would not be where they are today. If slavery never started would black people be here in America? Probably not. If Ireland never had a potatoe famine would Irish people live here? NO! Would you celebrate St Patricks Day? NO! And American Indians are still suffering. But no one can change it but the government.

That still doesn't explain to me how I am uneducated.

Going to community college doesn't make you an intelligent person. There are plenty of idiots who graduate from college, let alone community colleges. You have the grammar of a 6th grader & you are very unarticulate.

What happened happened, true. But just the fact that you respect some people's views is beyond me.

you said:

Im not white washed at all. Define white washed. I dont hate ma own skin. I like me just the way I am. I have no self esteem issues. Im content with myself and my surroundings. And im already white so.. You are WRONG AGAIN!
Think before you say shit.

Doesn't look that to me. If that is your picture and you think that you are white, then there's something wrong there. I can have a black dad & a white mom, but if I happen to be black then that's what I am, black. Same thing if you turn out white, brown, etc. So obviously you have some indentity issues you need to resolve. I'm sure that's why you come to white peoples defenses so much because your insecure about what you are. Me, on the otherhand am confident with my nationality. I'm mexican, my parents are, I might have some other races in me but you don't see me saying "well i'm, 5% this, 12% that, and some this 2".
1. Yeh i go to community college BUT im shippin off to Sac STATE FYI!!!!!! I dont have to sit here and prove to you how intelligent I am. Nor do i need to remind you.
And if someone graduates from college they must not be that damn stupid.
2. Ur uneducated because you sit here and make unvalid points. Obviously you dont know MUCH about history. Or you would have STFU along time ago.
3. My mother is white therefore i'm white. Im not going to not claim that im not white because I am. THAT WAS JUST THE DUMBEST THING IVE HEARD ALL DAY. If my mom is white and my dad is black... im black & white. I understand if I was 5 percent this and that but in my case im not. Im equally mixed with Black, Italian, Spanish, and Indian. I don't deny my ancestors nor my parents because I would be denying myself. I dont identify with just one race. People ask me what I am and I say mixed. Since youre not a mixed child Im sure u dont know.
Now that I have educated you about History and Being Mixed.
NOWWWWWW...
 
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MissLady said:

I dont have to sit here and prove to you how intelligent I am. Nor do i need to remind you.
Then you shouldn't have brought it up in the first place.

MissLady said:

2. Ur uneducated because you sit here and make unvalid points. Obviously you dont know MUCH about history. Or you would have STFU along time ago.
What invalid points have I made? Why would I have shut the fuck up a long time ago?

MissLady said:

3. My mother is white therefore i'm white. Im not going to not claim that im not white because I am. THAT WAS JUST THE DUMBEST THING IVE HEARD ALL DAY. If my mom is white and my dad is black... im black & white. I understand if I was 5 percent this and that but in my case im not. Im equally mixed with Black, Italian, Spanish, and Indian. I don't deny my ancestors nor my parents because I would be denying myself. I dont identify with just one race. People ask me what I am and I say mixed. Since youre not a mixed child Im sure u dont know.
Now that I have educated you about History and Being Mixed.
Your a mix, yes. But you turned out black, if you tell people your white they're gonna think your confused.
 
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MissLady said:
im in community college but im shippin off to sac state. NOSY! :p
no, not nosy, just wonderin because i go to Stanislaus state in turlock and i took a few criminal justice classes and was going to tell you if you went to stanislaus to take courses with Dr. Sereno
 
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Re: Re: why does bill orielly always have something to say about hip hop?

nefar559 said:



check out what FAIR.org (fairness and accuracy in reporting)
has on fox

Fox News Channel's extraordinary right-wing tilt
http://www.fair.org/extra/0108/fox-main.html

more on fox
http://www.fair.org/media-outlets/newscorp-fox.html


i never saw that O'Reilly show, but i keep reading that its crap
http://www.fair.org/extra/0108/oreilly.html
http://www.fair.org/media-outlets/o'reilly.html
i did a little checking and it seems that FAIR's journalist (SETH ACKERMAN) who did the above articles on Fox News isnt very a very factual guy and makes shit up sometimes. check this out......

www.shalem.org.il/oren/images/file1.jpg
www.shalem.org.il/oren/images/file2.jpg
www.shalem.org.il/oren/images/file3.jpg

read the 1st which is ackermans article. then the 2nd and 3rd are responses to his story
 
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D-Style said:


Then you shouldn't have brought it up in the first place.

What invalid points have I made? Why would I have shut the fuck up a long time ago?

Your a mix, yes. But you turned out black, if you tell people your white they're gonna think your confused.
1. If i feel like getting up in the morning and saying Im an intelligent human being. Than I can do that. 1st ammendment!
2. People do not think im confused. I tell em i'm mixed.
Do you still not understand or do I have to explain to the class again? People dont say im white. They say i'm mixed.
3. I can defend caucasian people if I feel the need to.... People like you who dont know what the fuck they're talking about. People like you that think they know everything. Which is why you should have STFU along time ago.
4. A lot of things youve said are pure BS.
EX:
A. Going to community college doesn't make you an intelligent person. There are plenty of idiots who graduate from college, let alone community colleges.
BULL SHIT
B. If that is your picture and you think that you are white, then there's something wrong there. I can have a black dad & a white mom, but if I happen to be black then that's what I am, black. Same thing if you turn out white, brown, etc. So obviously you have some indentity issues you need to resolve. I'm sure that's why you come to white peoples defenses so much because your insecure about what you are. Me, on the otherhand am confident with my nationality. I'm mexican, my parents are, I might have some other races in me but you don't see me saying "well i'm, 5% this, 12% that, and some this 2".
BULL SHIT
C. I live in l.a. where white gangs would never step to a mexican or black gang. There's peckerwoods out here but the most they do is jack little kids and beat up on bums
BULL SHIT, your usual stereotypical comments, and
RACIST

5. I said you were uneducated about the world around you and history. If all you know is what you were taught from a 6th grade hsitory book.. Than in reality you dont know sh*t. Which is why you should have STFU along time ago. Theres no need for you trying to argue with me. I've made my points.
 
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MissLady said:
Going to community college doesn't make you an intelligent person. There are plenty of idiots who graduate from college, let alone community colleges.
BULL SHIT
actually what D said is kinda true because i know plenty of stupid people who have graduated from CC and even from Stan State.
 
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Well maybe it is. But you have to have atleast some kinda sense/brain power to graduate.
I never said there werent people who are stupid that graduated college. But most people that i know that graduated from college are brainy
 
May 2, 2002
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Originally posted by MissLady


1. If i feel like getting up in the morning and saying Im an intelligent human being. Than I can do that. 1st ammendment!


I never said you couldn't but you said:

I dont have to sit here and prove to you how intelligent I am. Nor do i need to remind you.

2. People do not think im confused. I tell em i'm mixed.

Why did you say you were white then?

3. I can defend caucasian people if I feel the need to.... People like you who dont know what the fuck they're talking about. People like you that think they know everything. Which is why you should have STFU along time ago.

How don't I know what I'm talking about? Did I ever say that I know everything? Nah, I'm just having a conversation.

4. A lot of things youve said are pure BS.
EX:
A. Going to community college doesn't make you an intelligent person. There are plenty of idiots who graduate from college, let alone community colleges.
BULL SHIT


haha ok buddy. Bush graduated from harvard, he must be a genius in your eyes. I never said that every person coming out of community college is an idiot, because that's not true. But there are a lot of idiots who have gone to community colleges before and graduated. Your born smart, you can be a knowledgeable person, but that doesn't mean your smart, it means your well read. By idiot I don't mean retarded, I mean a person who isn't that bright. I've been to community college, I know how it is, and I can tell you that there are a lot of stupid people that go there. To get by in a community college you do not have to be a very bright person, just motivated enough to do your work.

B. If that is your picture and you think that you are white, then there's something wrong there. I can have a black dad & a white mom, but if I happen to be black then that's what I am, black. Same thing if you turn out white, brown, etc. So obviously you have some indentity issues you need to resolve. I'm sure that's why you come to white peoples defenses so much because your insecure about what you are. Me, on the otherhand am confident with my nationality. I'm mexican, my parents are, I might have some other races in me but you don't see me saying "well i'm, 5% this, 12% that, and some this 2".
BULL SHIT


why is that bullshit?

C. I live in l.a. where white gangs would never step to a mexican or black gang. There's peckerwoods out here but the most they do is jack little kids and beat up on bums
BULL SHIT, your usual stereotypical comments, and
RACIST


How the fuck is that racist? hahaha. And on top of that, bullshit? I'm not lying, that is shit that i've seen, why would I make it up?

5. I said you were uneducated about the world around you and history. If all you know is what you were taught from a 6th grade hsitory book.. Than in reality you dont know sh*t. Which is why you should have STFU along time ago. Theres no need for you trying to argue with me. I've made my points.

Ohhh someones getting heated. What don't I know? Do you really know me good enough to judge me like that? It's funny how your trying to insult my intelligence when you can barely even write out a coherent sentence. People who are insecure about their own intellectual abilities usually insult others to make themselves feel better. I must say that that's pretty sad that you need to do that on the internet but to each their own.
 
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MissLady said:
Well maybe it is. But you have to have atleast some kinda sense/brain power to graduate.
I never said there werent people who are stupid that graduated college. But most people that i know that graduated from college are brainy
i think theres pretty much 3 ways to graduate college

1. be smart
2. or be a good bullshitter-which requires a brain or being somewhat itelligent
3. or be a good ass kisser
 
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D-Style said:
Originally posted by MissLady


1. If i feel like getting up in the morning and saying Im an intelligent human being. Than I can do that. 1st ammendment!


I never said you couldn't but you said:

I dont have to sit here and prove to you how intelligent I am. Nor do i need to remind you.
Your point?
2. People do not think im confused. I tell em i'm mixed.

Why did you say you were white then?
Because i am white!
3. I can defend caucasian people if I feel the need to.... People like you who dont know what the fuck they're talking about. People like you that think they know everything. Which is why you should have STFU along time ago.

How don't I know what I'm talking about? Did I ever say that I know everything? Nah, I'm just having a conversation.
No comment. :rolls eyes:
4. A lot of things youve said are pure BS.
EX:
A. Going to community college doesn't make you an intelligent person. There are plenty of idiots who graduate from college, let alone community colleges.
BULL SHIT


haha ok buddy. Bush graduated from harvard, he must be a genius in your eyes. I never said that every person coming out of community college is an idiot, because that's not true. But there are a lot of idiots who have gone to community colleges before and graduated. Your born smart, you can be a knowledgeable person, but that doesn't mean your smart, it means your well read. By idiot I don't mean retarded, I mean a person who isn't that bright. I've been to community college, I know how it is, and I can tell you that there are a lot of stupid people that go there. To get by in a community college you do not have to be a very bright person, just motivated enough to do your work.

If Bush went to Harvard than he is/was smart. Yes, he makes bad choices for our country. But if you go to Harvard... you are generally smart.


B. If that is your picture and you think that you are white, then there's something wrong there. I can have a black dad & a white mom, but if I happen to be black then that's what I am, black. Same thing if you turn out white, brown, etc. So obviously you have some indentity issues you need to resolve. I'm sure that's why you come to white peoples defenses so much because your insecure about what you are. Me, on the otherhand am confident with my nationality. I'm mexican, my parents are, I might have some other races in me but you don't see me saying "well i'm, 5% this, 12% that, and some this 2".
BULL SHIT


why is that bullshit?

I already explained this to you.
Shall I explain again?
If I am half white and half black?...
A. Do i say im just white
B. Do i say im just black
C. Do i say im both?
TIME IS UP
The answer is C.
My point is my nationality consist of 4 races. I will not deny any of them. I consider myself mixed. Not just black.
I understand if i just have a pinch of (fill in the blank) in me. But i am equally Spanish, black, italian, and Indian. :p

C. I live in l.a. where white gangs would never step to a mexican or black gang. There's peckerwoods out here but the most they do is jack little kids and beat up on bums
BULL SHIT, your usual stereotypical comments, and
RACIST


How the fuck is that racist? hahaha. And on top of that, bullshit? I'm not lying, that is shit that i've seen, why would I make it up?
Peckerwood-racist term for white people.

Maybe they do beat up bums and jack little kids but they're are blacks, mexicans, asians that do the same shit. Ive been to l.A. a billion times. Ive seen a few mexicans and black dudes get smashed on by some ABS. I've seen a white dude who banged crip whoop on three black dudes who were bloods BY HIMSELF. And this was all in L.A. maybe where u live the only white dudes who venture into your barrio are cranksters/fiends.

5. I said you were uneducated about the world around you and history. If all you know is what you were taught from a 6th grade hsitory book.. Than in reality you dont know sh*t. Which is why you should have STFU along time ago. Theres no need for you trying to argue with me. I've made my points.

Ohhh someones getting heated. What don't I know? Do you really know me good enough to judge me like that? It's funny how your trying to insult my intelligence when you can barely even write out a coherent sentence. People who are insecure about their own intellectual abilities usually insult others to make themselves feel better. I must say that that's pretty sad that you need to do that on the internet but to each their own.

Is that how you feel? Do you feel that I am insulting your intelligence? I was saying you dont know much about history, obviously. Im not insecure about my own itellectualy abilities. I knwo im smart. I dont have to insult you to make myself feel content. and no Im not heated...... This is just a conversation, right?
 
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Re: Re: Re: why does bill orielly always have something to say about hip hop?

Mcleanhatch said:


i did a little checking and it seems that FAIR's journalist (SETH ACKERMAN) who did the above articles on Fox News isnt very a very factual guy and makes shit up sometimes. check this out......

www.shalem.org.il/oren/images/file1.jpg
www.shalem.org.il/oren/images/file2.jpg
www.shalem.org.il/oren/images/file3.jpg

read the 1st which is ackermans article. then the 2nd and 3rd are responses to his story
you might be right, nobody's perfect but wherever that
article appeared (www.shalem.org.il/oren/images/file1.jpg)
chances are they did a follow up with the mistakes, good
journalist do this i'm pretty sure Ackerman did.
you can't deny that he's a good journlist
http://www.fair.org/extra/writers/ackerman.html


mclatchatch, u should know better than to listen to the mainstream media..i don't give a fuck if they liberal or conservative, fuck them
spend u'r time doign reserach on them than on journlist from fair.org
 
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nefar559 said:
mclatchatch, u should know better than to listen to the mainstream media..i don't give a fuck if they liberal or conservative, fuck them
spend u'r time doign reserach on them than on journlist from fair.org
i was checking out fair.org cause i was trying to see where they were coming from and why they had it in for the FOX NEWS channel. and i kinda got the hint that FAIR.org was very left liberal bias themselves as i noticed they (seth ackerman) only pointed out the conservative things about FOX NEWS and conveniently left out all the liberal things. also most of their other articles were liberal bias.

oh and i wouldnt necessarily call cable news mainstream media. mainstream media is in my opinion (ABC, NBC, CBS)