why does bill orielly always have something to say about hip hop?

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Mcleanhatch said:


for the second time he wasn't hating on JAM MASTER JAY he only asked the question. and let me tell you guys something Jam Master Jay obviously was no saint because no 1 gets shot execution style in the head for no reason at all.
So just because he was shot "execution style" makes him a bad person.? A good person doesn't get shot in the head? Good people get killed all the time. It could of been over a girl, label disputes, etc. THE ONLY REASON orielly brought jam master jay up was to talk more shit about rap. He could give two shits about jay he just wants to get higher ratings. Just like that guy Dan Quail (sp) used rap in the early 90s to boost votes.

Orielly makes a big deal out of rap lyrics and violence, more people tune into his show because of all the controversy, his show gets higher ratings, thus more money for Orielly. Don't think for a second that he really gives a shit about what kids listen to & watch because if he did he would be going after britney spears, violent movies, and a lot of other things that corrupt kids minds. All he cares about is his money. I'm sure that whole 9/11 thing made him a whole lot richer.
 
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so neo nazi and skinhead gangs arent gangs??? yes, i would say most punk rock related gangs have affiliation with the 2. they dont base thier gangs around hating other races tho, they base it on unity of thier group of friends and/or neighborhood, just like any other gangs. they have probably never been shown any love by people of other races, and the same goes for "colored" gangs. but just because thyere white dont mean they dont have clicks. you dont hafto be a bunch of "colored" pants saggin ben davis wearin hip hoppin thugs to be considered a street gang.
 
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so neo nazi and skinhead gangs arent gangs??? yes, i would say most punk rock related gangs have affiliation with the 2. they dont base thier gangs around hating other races tho, they base it on unity of thier group of friends and/or neighborhood, just like any other gangs. they have probably never been shown any love by people of other races, and the same goes for "colored" gangs. but just because thyere white dont mean they dont have clicks. you dont hafto be a bunch of "colored" pants saggin ben davis wearin hip hoppin thugs to be considered a street gang.
First off, wearing ben davis's doesn't make you a gangster. Truckers, busboys, white power gangs, and many many other people wear ben davis's. lol @ hip hoppin thugs. Besides black gangs do you see mexican gangs as hip hoppin thugs? Do you think asian gangs are hip hopppin thugs?

Neo nazis & skinheads are troubled kids who go and rob old ladies and think they're tough. They would NEVER start shit with a real gang let alone someone who would give them a fight. They're all about picking on the weak. I don't consider them a street gang, I consider them a bunch of misfits who hang out with each other. They're nothing compared to REAL gangs. You don't have to be brown or black to have a street gang yes, but I've never heard of a white gang that isn't racist (neo nazis & skinheads are bitches) that goes out and puts in work, has different clicks in their hood, and is fairly large (atleast 50 deep).
 
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D-Style said:


So just because he was shot "execution style" makes him a bad person.? A good person doesn't get shot in the head? Good people get killed all the time

Don't think for a second that he really gives a shit about what kids listen to & watch because if he did he would be going after violent movies, and a lot of other things that corrupt kids minds.
i never said he was a bad person, he never said he was a bad person but its something that sticks out. he got shot execution style in the head in his own recording studio. now obviously it could have been a random shooting but odds are it was some1 he knew and the person shot him for a reason.

second he wasnt the only 1 to bring it up, it was all over fox news, cnn, and msnbc/cnbc.

and for the second part he does go after those things i mean he doesnt have the best track record with hollywood and its stars. i mean for every jam master jay and snoop dogg and puff daddy he also attacks sean penn, (heroin junkie from ally mcbeal.. cant remember his real name), and others that make society a worse place
 
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he also attacks sean penn, (heroin junkie from ally mcbeal.. cant remember his real name), and others that make society a worse place
How do these people make society a worse place? ROFL... They may be making their own life worse but they aint affecting me or society at that...

Here's whats wrong with orielly, he's IGNORANT. Not only to blacks but to society in general. He doesn't look at the cause, he looks at the result...
 
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How do these people make society a worse place? ROFL... They may be making their own life worse but they aint affecting me or society at that...

Here's whats wrong with orielly, he's IGNORANT. Not only to blacks but to society in general. He doesn't look at the cause, he looks at the result...
because people watch them act in movies and look up to them and want to be like them. maybe it doesnt effect you but it can effect others so your right in that it may not be affecting you but it does effect society.

leave the racist shit out because if you have seen enough O'Reilly shows you would know that he attacks all of society that is bad not just blacks in particular.

you just dont give him enough credit. but like ive heard before either you like the show or you hate it. its obvious you hate it.
no biggie
 
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Down Click, a predominantly white click from around my area (north/east seattle...and other parts of western washington). i know for a fuckin fact many people belonging to that click have put in work. and i know for a fuckin fact a few of the members rolled with Elm Street Piru (a predominantly black gang). i believe there were also a few that rolled with crip sets out here (tho im not sure of what set). i also knew a hard motherfuckin white cat who rolled with those bloods that had "crip killer" tatted across his chest, and he also rolled with DC. so do the math homie, this is form things ive seen with my own eyes. tho most of these cats arent punk rockers, affiliations go far bro. dont act like youre knowin it all, cuz you obviously arent
 
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I never said he was racist, I said he was IGNORANT. Racist people are ignorant, but ignorant people arn't always racist.

BTW, I don't hate the show, I like it, but I don't like him or his views...
 
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Ion know about chall sometimes.

You got skinheads/neo nazis twisted. yes, they may have some fucced up thoughts but its a free country which means you can say whatever the fucc you want and you are free to have your own beliefs.
Ive met some skinheads while up in Sac. some of them are str8 harcore. Theyre down to kill/fight whoever whenever however.
Ive seen some white skins str8 chunk em with some OGs. Skin color dont got shit to do with nada.
And d-style take ya ass up to Sac. There is an EXTREMMEELY large population of KKK and skins up there.
I respect o'Reillys views. Hes helped turn alot of things around. Hes brought a lot of issues to the forefront. where as other media wouldnt dare talk about it because it was shunned or taboo in society or the simple fact no one wanted to talk. Hes clowned Jesse Jacksons Rainbow Coalition which hurts black america more than it helps. Hes ragged on celebrities. Hes busted out the media and the government for their coverups.
Although you may view oreilly as an ignorant person or what not. If you sit down and actually watch his show you could learn a lot.
 
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I respect o'Reillys views. Hes helped turn alot of things around. Hes brought a lot of issues to the forefront. where as other media wouldnt dare talk about it because it was shunned or taboo in society or the simple fact no one wanted to talk. Hes clowned Jesse Jacksons Rainbow Coalition which hurts black america more than it helps. Hes ragged on celebrities. Hes busted out the media and the government for their coverups.
Although you may view oreilly as an ignorant person or what not. If you sit down and actually watch his show you could learn a lot.
exactly^^^^^^^
 
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Politically Incorrect, now that was a GOOD show. This Orielly factor is garbage for the simple fact that its all HIS opinion. Whenever he has a guest on he barely will let them speak and its not a discussion its just him slamming their views. On politically incorrect, you had 5 people discussing an issue and you got ALL sides. There is not just 2 sides to an arguement...
 
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But Politically Incorrect was also oppinion. No different than Oreilly. On both shows you get clowned if your views/oppinions are different from the hosts'. Theres no difference.
Some of the guest on Oreilly are just retarded. They get on his show trying to make a valid point which turns out to be nothin but bs. Half of them cant even answer oreilly's questions so they get themsleves frustrated and start saying bs.
Pollitcially Incorrect was more of a humor/round table type of thing. the enviroment was less serious. And most of the topics were just general issues.
Bill Oreilly's show brings up controversial issues, issues that the media fails to cover, and issues that he feels the american public needs to know about. If you go on Oreilly you better know your shit, your facts, and be able to argue a valid point or youll get clowned. Bill Oreilly isnt kissin no ones ass and he aint tryin to be your friend. Hes definately not going to play ring around the rosie witcha ass (beatin around the bush). He just gets to the heart of the matter. Hes compassionate for what he believes in.
 
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every time he debates he uses facts and has the facts in front of him and even tells people i got the facts and shows them the paper. point is not to many in news are like him but more need to be like him. and if alote of you people would put your views aside and just thought i mean really thought about some of the things he says some of you guys would think different
 
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Ion know about chall sometimes.

You got skinheads/neo nazis twisted. yes, they may have some fucced up thoughts but its a free country which means you can say whatever the fucc you want and you are free to have your own beliefs.
Ive met some skinheads while up in Sac. some of them are str8 harcore. Theyre down to kill/fight whoever whenever however.
Ive seen some white skins str8 chunk em with some OGs. Skin color dont got shit to do with nada.
And d-style take ya ass up to Sac. There is an EXTREMMEELY large population of KKK and skins up there.
I respect o'Reillys views. Hes helped turn alot of things around. Hes brought a lot of issues to the forefront. where as other media wouldnt dare talk about it because it was shunned or taboo in society or the simple fact no one wanted to talk. Hes clowned Jesse Jacksons Rainbow Coalition which hurts black america more than it helps. Hes ragged on celebrities. Hes busted out the media and the government for their coverups.
Although you may view oreilly as an ignorant person or what not. If you sit down and actually watch his show you could learn a lot.
I never said there weren't kkk racist piece of shit gangs, I said is there any white gangs that put in work who aren't racist. Why are you defending white power gangs? It says your black in your profile, what you doing meeting nazis? I'm mexican and I would never be cool with a fuckin bitch ass kkk fool and the only time I would say whats up if i was gonna get down with them. You got it twisted. I live in l.a. where white gangs would never step to a mexican or black gang. There's peckerwoods out here but the most they do is jack little kids and beat up on bums.

lmao @ "down" click. wannabez
 
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Im not defending white gangs.
If you really wanna know I met them for a research project. In my field that im studying thats the shit we have to go through.
Whether a persons views are good or bad you have to respect their views because its a free country.
Actually, im mixed. I have lots of family on my mother's side that are involved with the KKK. But I dont associate with them as friends. There jsut regular people with soem fucced up views. Some were raised like that they cant help but think that way. they were never subjected to nothin but trailer park oakies. But can they help that...? NO. Its embedded in their mind.
Although I might not like or appreciate how they think. I respect them as human beings and thats the way they think. I cant change the way they think.
Yeh I know white bois that fuck with crips bloods nortenos etc. Some are OG's and actually put in work.
You live in a closed world as it seems. You need to open your horizons.
On an ending note... Fuck a gang. They dont do shit but get chu caught up, in the pen, on drugs, pregnant, leads to bad choices, or dead.
 
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Im not defending white gangs.
If you really wanna know I met them for a research project. In my field that im studying thats the shit we have to go through.
Whether a persons views are good or bad you have to respect their views because its a free country.
Actually, im mixed. I have lots of family on my mother's side that are involved with the KKK. But I dont associate with them as friends. There jsut regular people with soem fucced up views. Some were raised like that they cant help but think that way. they were never subjected to nothin but trailer park oakies. But can they help that...? NO. Its embedded in their mind.
Although I might not like or appreciate how they think. I respect them as human beings and thats the way they think. I cant change the way they think.
Yeh I know white bois that fuck with crips bloods nortenos etc. Some are OG's and actually put in work.
You live in a closed world as it seems. You need to open your horizons.
On an ending note... Fuck a gang. They dont do shit but get chu caught up, in the pen, on drugs, pregnant, leads to bad choices, or dead.
How am I closed minded to gangs? I live in los angeles, i'm around that shit all the time so don't tell me I'm closed minded. I know there's white boys that are in black & mexican gangs but that is very rare and I never said there isn't any whites in black & mexican gangs. But there are no white gangs that are not racist, weren't started by browns & blacks, that are all white, and is like the bloods, crips, & chicano gangs. There are some vice lord & disciple gangs in chicago that have a lot of white boys in them but they were started by browns & blacks. That white gang called the gaylords is all white, but they're racists.

Do you not agree with but respect hitler as a person and what he did to the jews? Do you repsect people who kill other people for no reason? Do you respect genocide because "it's a free country"? Fuck that I don't have to respect anybodies views. If someone is raised to hate people with my skin color then fuck them. How the fuck can I respect someone that wants an all white world? I ain't with that.
 
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fox news = fair and balanced my ass!
its nothing but a bunch of right-wing conservative republican bullshit. fox news is white news by whites for whites. not whites in the sense of color. but white in the sense of the mindstate and stereotype


but i still find it entertaining. i watch bill oriely and fox and friends everyday
 
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You can feel how you want to feel.
I didnt say you were closed minded to gangs. Did i say that.? Dont put words in ma mouth baby boy. I said you were close minded period. Because you stereotype white people. You think that just because someone is racist all they go and do is beat up people grandmas n shit. You keep bringng up things that i never said and trying to argue with me about it. WTF!
You need to read. Cause Hitlers not the only one responsible for the Holocaust. He was actually extremely intelligent. Have you ever seen Schindlers List? Go watch that than tell me some bullshit about Hitler. Go read Art of War than tell me some shit about Hitler. No, I dont think what he did to the Jews was acceptable behavior nor do i like what he did. But thats life. if the holocaust didnt happen jews wouldnt be where they are today in america. They own many businesses and are involved in politics. If slavery didnt happen where would black people be? You cant turn back the hands of time. If you do, it will disrupt history. The outcome wouldnt be the same. Thats why you accept the past, move on, and LEARN from it.
and I never said I respected genocide. All I said is that sometimes you have to respect peoples views. Genocide is a totally different subject. I dont believe in killing mass people for no damn reason or to take over a country. But it happens. In many countries its happening right now. And I cant change it. I cant help that the president wants to go over to Iraq and bomb they ass when they know were going to lose a lot of support from many middle eastern countries and were probably going to go into a depression because we depend on them for oil. I cant change that and either can you. SHIT HAPPENS!
Im not asking you to agree with my views. I frankly dont give a rats azz. But in life you will run into many people that you dont like.. Youll run into people that have fucced up views and beliefs... You will eventually work with people you dont like. ITS LIFE! And youll have to respect them and ignore them. By respecting them its not like you have to agree with what they say. You have to be the bigger person and not trip off of it.