why does bill orielly always have something to say about hip hop?

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Jul 7, 2002
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Mcleanhatch said:


yes i do, in combination with other things like movies that dipict violence, and also tv shows that depict sex such as friends, ally mcbeal (sex, language, Robert downey jr.), boston public (i bet in the near future there will be incidents of violence where the ideas will be taken from this years season opener).

nah, i havent been getting this from o'reilly ive been getting it from FAIR.org lol.

really though i think its common sense now wheather people want to believe it or not is another story
common sense?...i don't think it common sense, must be more
than just tv, and rap...but for reals, the media show take more
responcaably on what they show to kids
http://www.theotherparent.com/ (tell me if this site is liberal biais...lol)
 
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Mcleanhatch said:


but werent the ghettos and the times back in the 80's almost the same as now. yet back then there was RUN DMC, KOOL MOE DEE, LL COOL J, PUBLIC ENEMY.....ect and they werent swearing. i mean even lynch had a few tracks that were edited that really didnt sound much different than the unedited ones.

i mean i got nothing against free speech and he should be able to put out what he wants but the media (as in radio, movies, MTV) and all shouldnt build him up like they do. his music should be for adults (hence EXPLICITE LYRICS) but they pump it out on the radio every what 15 minutes. where young kids listen to it.

AND WE WONDER WHY KIDS ARE MORE AGGRESSIVE NOW DAYS.
Well rap music has evolved from those times, trying to compare the 80's to the 90's holds no merit. Shit evolves...It's just like me comparing football in the 80's to the 90's.

Free speech has gotten a lot looser over the years, I can't recall hearing the word bitch or ass not being censored on television when I was younger. Now these words can be said on air without a problem.

But thats not the point, O'Reily isn't just attacking the stuff being played on the air, he's attacking these rappers based on there albums. He has quoted lyrics from an album that has a "Parental advisory" sticker on it. And he's talked about how dirty those lyrics were and how they should go away. I was saying if he wants them to go away then your going to have to make the streets cleaner. Thats just a fact.... What makes another rapper talking about popping another brotha? what makes a brotha talk about selling drugs on the streets? What makes a brotha so disrespectful to another sista? O'Reily is so disgusted by it but he's failed to see the problem.

I can't completly agree with you on the music, television, movies being the only contributor to kids getting more violent. You forgot something crucial P A R E N T I N G
 
May 8, 2002
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nefar559 said:


common sense?...i don't think it common sense, must be more
than just tv, and rap...but for reals, the media show take more
responcaably on what they show to kids
http://www.theotherparent.com/ (tell me if this site is liberal biais...lol)
cant tell if its liberal bias but it doesnt matter because he guy sounds like he is doing good things. plus there wasnt too much in the form of reading on that sight or at least i couldnt find much

lol at co-written by chelsey clinton
 
May 8, 2002
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Tenkamenin said:
Free speech has gotten a lot looser over the years, I can't recall hearing the word bitch or ass not being censored on television when I was younger. Now these words can be said on air without a problem.
ya but isnt that a bad thing.
 
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Mcleanhatch said:


ok then is it safe to say that it has evolved for the worse at least in the form as to how it has had an effect to society

lol, u say all this...and u'r a registor member of the siccness..lol
mcleanhatch how has lynch affected you?
 
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Tenkamenin said:
I can't completly agree with you on the music, television, movies being the only contributor to kids getting more violent. You forgot something crucial P A R E N T I N G
i said those were some of the major things not the only things.

but also parenting obviously is a major component. but well parenting has its limits too sometimes, i mean i remember back when i was young if i did something bad and was told to stop and didnt i would get an ass whoopin and i would learn my lesson, now days if i were to whoop my kids ass and some1 seen i would probly get CPS called on me.
 
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nefar559 said:



lol, u say all this...and u'r a registor member of the siccness..lol
mcleanhatch how has lynch affected you?
ya because for the most part kids dont have easy access to lynch, or the other rappers here. once you turn 18 fuck it its on you but kids shouldnt be allowed to hear these people like eminem, snoop dogg, ect. et... easily like they do on the radio. it should be off the radio yet attainable by people as long as they are of age. thats all im saying
 

phil

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im feelin mclean to a certain extent but then again, its the parents responsibility as well to make sure they know what their kids are listening to. when i heard my 7 year old girl mumbling the words of that "my neck, my back" song i was about to slap the shit out of her mom for letting her listen to that bullshit.
 
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Man fuck all that, I played Mortal Kobat, watched violent movies, listened to voilent music, and not once have I had my parents got in my biz or have ever whooped my ass and I'm JUST FINE. I don't go out killing people, I don't go out getting into trouble and gettin arrested. ITS COMMON SENSE. YES, KIDS HAVE IT TOO. If someone is stupid enough to go on a shooting rampage because of a song they were going to do it anyway....
 
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I don't see how biker gangs are really different than street gangs other than the fact that they roll on bikes and don't claim blocks....they still push dope, beat people down, kill people etc
 

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Simple tactics- A common enemy unites people. Common pride does the same thing.

Is this true for most of you? You can beat the crap outta your siblings or close friends, but if anybody else puts hands on them, that someone else is getting the crap beat out of them by all of yall. Even if that sibling or close friend was in the wrong, your pride in them unites you blindly, and a common enemy unites you regardless. Simple example.

I've lived on military bases before and seen how pride and common foe affect people. You have Navy, Air Force, Army, and Marines. They all talk shit to each other and even have "racist" names for each of the groups and stereotypes. When they see each other at bars you bet your ass there's trouble comin when shit's talked. They'll beat the crap out each other, send each other to the hospital, and say stuff like "Man I'm gonna kill you!". But when they go to war against a common enemy they'll die for their "brothers and sisters". Hmmm...wierd. Still pretty simple cause and effect.

America hates the shit out of each other. But I garuntee if war ever comes to our own shores and borders EVERYBODY'S gon be fightin and dyin for their fellow "brother and sister americans". Cuz well, AWW SHIT that's our freakin "home" right? And if somebody breaks into your house, the house is gonna defend itself. Right? Hmmmm...... a lil more complicated or less depending on your perception.

The WHOLE FUCKIN WORLD wants to kill each other and really, really hates the shit out of each other. It looks like we're gonna need a freakin alien invasion to unite everyone..... under..... pride. BUT..... because of pride, problem still ain't solved it's just maintained for a period of time. Cuz once that common foe is dead we go back to killin each other, why? Because we fought FOR pride not out of defense or Love for our "brothers and sisters".

So what unites us now? I don't know. But I know what's pulling us apart... money, power, bad intention, but mostly SECRETS and LIES. Use this to find your common foe and your people. Use this to find truth. Do not use this to find pride, but righteousness, there is a difference. Good and bad, right and wrong, truth and a lie . You have to put yourself on either side of this line if you ever want to find out why we are hear on this earth and why the earth is like this. Ain't nobody got power over you except your Creator. Always remember this and you will be able to see your oppressors. Then you learn how to fightback.

-Ender

"I kept lookin for somebody to save me, now I think I'm lookin for somebody to save" -Love

"Redemption and Vengence, I am both of these" -Love